Fatal flaw of the show's writing?

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Posted: 13 years ago

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How would raghav get attention with Viraj being in a joker get up? I mean think about it V getting a whole new get up means he will get the attention like he has always had in this show ... fact is writers have never given Raghav his due and whatever love Raghav has received till date is more because of the actor and less because of writing (except here and there), on the other hand V has always been glorified and focused on like anything and that still continues, did you read KB's tweets regarding his joker get up? He seems so excited so if it was to minimize his character or anything why would he be happy? I have said it many times Viraj's downfall was actually focusing too much on him when it was needed or not needed, if they had kept all characters equal the thirst for Viraj would have remained among viewers but they just keep experimenting with his character just to give him new shades and new look and new things to do, so that focus does not shift to anyone else, which is mostly at the cost of other characters and storyline. Same is the case now because they don't want to loose focus from Viraj they gave his character a new dimension and made him into a joker now , so that the character gets something new, it is not at all to make Raghav look better or whatever, it is only to keep V in focus by adding another layer to his character.

I agree Raghav loosing the CD once again proved Viraj is the winner which sucks because Viraj can't be the only intelligent being around but this again mean writers don't think deep while writing for Raghav the way they do for viraj!!!

V has to loose someday and he will loose because he will think he can't do no wrong, he is the God, the ultimate ... and in that he will end up doing stupid things which will eventually bring his downfall so if V is shown to be stupid (if at all) I don't think it would be a character blooper at all because some day its bound to happen

But still am glad atleast there is some progress in past week and we atleast see someone countering evil atleast ... because before this it was all evil evil evil now atleast you see some goodness

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: petrova-fire
I have noticed a trend in what it is about the writing that shows up as the most aggravating aspect for all three of the lead characters. Whenever the writers want to draw the attention and sympathy towards a particular character, it seems like every other character has to pay the price.
2. We all know Raghav is the "hero" in this situation. I think both sides (i.e. RaghVi and Viraj fans) of the forum know this. What the hell was the need to create a mockery out of Viraj by dressing him up as the Joker? Fine, the scene hasn't aired yet but what kind of scenario could possibly be in favour of that get-up? This is being done more or less to draw attention towards Raghav. Who pays the price? Viraj.

Hi Rova,

I agreed with your post, except on the quoted part. I've been watching the show since December 2011, before the hero's entry, and I just want to share a few thoughts here.

There is only one character on this show who has been given maximum screenspace and glorified and not made to pay the price at all -- and that's V. This is evident from day one. When Jahnvi was made weak in Manali, it was to enhance V. When she got pregnant and did nothing much on the show besides meditating, it was to enhance V. When she lost her child, hit rockbottom, but the following track was made to focus on V's treatment and how she supported him and cared for him rather than her own rockbottom and pain, it was to enhance V. When she escaped and they didn't even give her any time to heal before he found her again, it was to enhance V. When the hero entered, but was made nothing more than a handsome muscle to decorate the background, it was to enhance V. When they refused to have RaghaVi's story grow at all, it was to enhance V. When they made him lose his memory, it was to enhance V. When they introduced his double, it was to enhance V. When they got him involved with gangsters and master schemes, it was again to enhance V. Every time they let him win because, oh, he was "so much smarter" than the rest of the world, it was only to enhance V.

And in all this, Jahnvi and Raghav and every other character on the show was made to pay the price. Jahnvi was made to adjust to V's moods and changes and made dumber and whatnot, and Raghav was either sidelined or his scenes were stuffed with emotional drama because they knew Raghav fans would love that and they wouldn't have to focus on him more. In other words, he too was weakened as a character.

Think about it. When the hero finally enters -- and the hero's character was sketched from the start, even the head of content admitted this -- he's made into nothing more than an accessory. I bet that's not what was penned down from the start. In fact, I refuse to believe that his entry was supposed to be as late as it was. I believe that it all had to do with how the writers decided to focus on V, to keep glorifying him because apparently he had a lot of fans and that brought home some TRPs -- well, for a short while, at least, since there's a limit as to how long one can watch evil prevail on a show like this.

The problem has always been the great amount of space that they've given V, including the amount of power that he was allowed to gain in the narrative. Sia's psychological journey was often ignored in favor of his. And this is a standing fact. You've seen and still see every single thought running through V's head and at one point the writers introduced a double just to drill the point!

Another point is that every time Sia retaliated, the value of that retaliation was reduced by the emphasis on V. Plus the emphasis was such that V's tactics were different, but Sia's always remained the same.

In rape cases, there's a long phase in which the victim spends months, years, her whole life self-destructing, because the victim phase is like a cocoon where you don't have to take charge of your life. From that to the survivor stage -- where you recognize what happened to you can't change who you really are unless you let it -- is long and ardorous and that's where the character of V was made to ruin everything.

Imagine being raped/beaten and after maybe a month of the incident, you're made to face your abuser again -- there's no way that you'll be normal. So they spent a whole bunch of time having Sia veer between sympathy for this almost stranger and fear because of her knowledge of him. Where was the time to build that strength?

Kher. Right now, I feel like the two other leads have at least gotten a fair share of character development and screenspace than they have for the past many months. And I'm willing to see what happens in tonight's episode. Either way, I doubt that the Joker get up was the writers' idea to begin with, but that's just my own speculation.

And like someone here already pointed out -- this might or might not ridicule V, but will definitely put him in the limelight once again, have him be in focus rather than the victim or the hero for that matter. Really? V has been ridiculed so that Raghav could be glorified? First, Raghav SHOULD be glorified as he represents God and all that is good. He's the hero. And second, Raghav hasn't been glorified. He's been put in prison and made to hide in Sia's bathroom while V prances around torturing people. Again.

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Goldstar7

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Posted: 13 years ago

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The main problem of the show is that they never showed J thought process. the show is about DV so they should had realistic apporch to the story but glorified V the abuser to no end . They selled V style and humour with hint of mental illnes instead of Janvi s story.

When she landed at ashram thought they will show her interaction with other victims of DV but thery didnt showed it even once, instead R became her whole and sole inspiration .Cant connect it as felt too early for a batterd woman like J to trust any other man in no time. She can endure any pain just becoz R told her to be brave and strong.

Lastly majority of abusers are not crazy/physco like V then why to make the issue so much complex with alter ago and now joker.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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First of all, I will clarify the one sentence that every response here seems to have been caught up on which is the "draw attention towards Raghav". I guess that was not the best choice of words to convey what I intended but I didn't think it was going to be found that offensive either so let me clarify.

I did make it a point not to use the word "glorify" in my whole post because I don't think ANY character is exactly glorified at this point.

When I said draw attention to Raghav, think of it this way:

When you have a sane, normal, ethical, good-looking Raghav walking around in comparison to a crazy, egotistical, cruel man who with the joker get-up is a complete freak, naturally the audience sways toward Raghav.

Not that they shouldn't. I always have and always will pick Raghav but I just feel that they don't need to go to such extremes with Viraj because that pull towards Raghav is there regardless. One way or another, there is a choice that needs to be made between R and V for not only J, but also the audience. The choice is obvious. But writers are exaggerating just a little too much and I was only commenting on the juxtaposition, not the glorification of any particular character.

For those who think I am feeling insecure about Viraj -- here's one for you...I am team Raghav and RaghVi and I think I have been active enough in this forum for people to know that. But that doesn't mean I don't care about the other characters as well.

Viraj doesn't need nor deserve sympathy or glorification but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve screen space. The fact that that screen time has been made a complete mockery out of is another story altogether.

I hope what I was trying to say is clearer now.

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Soaps1

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Watch today's episode you will know making V into joker had nothing to do with what you wrote even in your post above ... i don't want to make same argument again and again but looks or good looks have nothing to do with it ... fact is one character in this show is given all the room to perform at cost of all other characters and it was proved again in tonight's episode ... you are entitled to have a different opinion and I respect your right but in my opinion it has nothing to do with making Raghav look good, look wise or otherwise

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