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Posted: 12 years ago
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An episode that made me Love 'Arnav' even more... And before I start, 'Barun'... Instead of a 'bow', i wil give u a 'rainbow'... You are that 'spectacular' with your expressions...😳


14 years... Thats the term of a 'Life Imprisonment' in India, normally... And 'within these 14 years, 'Arnav' has been a prisoner... A 'Prisoner' whose 'Life' was sucked out of Him...

14 years before Arnav was a 13yr old boy... Is that the only difference? No... It isnt... 14 years before, his pain was 'Fresh' and 'raw'... Now it is 'Raw' and 'old' with strong Roots deep enough to question his existence...

Arnav 'lived through 2 Suicides... To keep alive One Life... His 'Di'... And now, if she backstabs him, Arnav n the beloved 'Chotte' she wil be having a 'Funeral' of him...

I cried for my Boy, when pain oozed out of his eyes...😭

😊 now to my 'Report' wa of the day😊

'Arnav' was not born as an ordinary Baby... He was born becoz, 'The Raizadas, Maliks, Jhas n Gupthas' went on a hunger strike andolan... And their prayers were answerd when 'ARNAV' was born to be the 'BURDEN BEARER' of everyone's life... With an appealing 'designation' called 'DECISION MAKER'...😉


EARNING MONEY is a bad thing n He should hav fed (up) people with bhashans on love...and then let them starve. May be then he would hav been a 'Punyaatma'... U know 'angelwa'...😉 thats d kind of disrespect his 'bhawna bhari' family n lover has for 'hard earned Money'.

Starve for 2 days n we wil knw, No 'pyaar n Bhawna' regains you the losing consciousness...


Every Person of His Life, 'Created a mess' according to each one's 'bhawna, kartavya... Parampara... And Parivaar...' n then after they hav terribly crawled thru the innings of their 'horrible' decision n lives, they hand over the 'Bat' to 'Arnav'... Ofcourse for 'Decision Making'.

The boy comes into face the 'last over' n then if He hits a six, everybody's 'mahatva n decision' wins... N if he is 'Clean Bowled', then the 'Decision Maker' has made a 'grave Mistake'... What a position to be in, Beta...!😔


Daadiji... In your Parivaar, 13yr olds take 'Decisions of Life...'?? I thot, at that age 'kids dont knw, to whom they shud write a 'love letter' or may be 'crush letter'...

Naani..., 'tell me, what does Arnav has to do to get a 'caring hug' frm you...? Clearly, you are immune to his 'Tears' n 'Pain'...! Should i ask him to hang a 'pom pom' to his suit, then you may know 'how much he has Sacrificed'... Isnt he your Grand child...? That too 'Lucknowi'... Then why naani, why?


The google meaning of 'Arnav' isnt 'ANSWERING MACHINE'... Bt, then why do Naani always, Daadi now, and others need 'answers' frm him.

The puzzle has been created by all d 'wonderful great sweet natured' people of his life... Bt, their 'Shaitaan' has to suffer and get the 'ANSWER' for them...good Gamewa!😉

Is there a 'bill' stuck on Arnav's head dat 'all Sorts of Grievences wil be recievd... N Sorted out'... That too without any 'bhaashan'...? Nice ofer naa... 'all dadis, naani's n bitiyas'...

Arnav, the next time, u say 'the most important person in my Life'... Remember to say 'KUSHIENT' instead. Your family wil never be happy with u... So the next time to 'save your life' atleast in d forum replace that dialog as...

'The Kushiest Kushient Kushien in my Kushi is Kushi''...

'kushi ka tho patha nahi, bt the Forum wil give u a 'brownie point'...


Finaly, 'Arnav Singh Raizada' in d show n in d forum has a 'price tag'... And the 'Price' is 'His Life'...
Edited by cutebarun - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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KHICHDI TIMES IN RM
First of all I would like to congratulate Anji. She has been successful in fooling more than half of the RM clan. This lady has been bothering me since Judgement Day (u know the one where Shyamu got thrown out)😃. The initial shock of Shyam's departure fried the mini cerebrum she possessed. She then proceeded to be a total senseless bundle of reactions. Or so it seems. Since emerging from her "hum apne kamrey mein jaa rahey hain aaraam karne" phase she has suddenly become over active. It all started with those mysterious phone calls. Those calls slowly brought back the colour in her life. She started going out, alone. Arranged secret meetings. Slowly became the Anjali that we knew. Pre-judgement day Anji. Yes she is back ...as is this strange shadow. Is it Shyamu? It seems more and more likely. So what is Anji thinking?
  • Mera pati mera Devta hai? Bhala hai bura hai jaisa bhi hai...?😕 OR
  • No he can never do something like that. Chhote has been lying to me much lately😭 OR
  • I will not think about it coz thinking needs brain and my brainwa went for a walkwa the day I met snakewa.🤢 OR
  • Nobody will give me proof so I will get it myself from the horses or in this case snakwa's mouth.
Is the precap predicting she will be found out pretty soon or Mami quizzing Anji regarding forwarded messages is the most exciting thing that'll happen on Monday?
Daadi
It seems like she is getting half-baked truths. What's with Nani trying to dust everything under the carpet? She needs to seat this lady down , tie her hands so she cant show it to her at every opportunity. Then she should tell all.
Dadi is trying to get herself killed by hotwa. She actually accused his mom right in his face? 😲
As far as her accusations go its like the pot calling the kettle black. How can she say his mom didnt carry her children's responsibility when she herself upped and left the children to be thrown out by her other son?
Arnav

He seems to be handling things pretty well. This type of confrontation with dadi and mention of his parents might have thrown him into blazing anger and pits of despair before. This time, however, the anger was tightly controlled. The pain was more than evident in his eyes, but he was talking of moving forward to a better future. With Khushi by his side he is trying to let go of the horrible past. Little does he know that the love of his life has much to do with his past. Keeping my fingers crossed for him and his little wife.
Whenever life takes away something from us it gives us some other thing in some other form so the balance is maintained. This man has suffered tremendously. All by himself. Despite being the younger sibling he undertook the role of the caretaker of the entire family. For this great "tapasya" he was granted the most sincere and most beautiful love one can dream of. Their love will help him conquer all obstacles. ❤️
Dark clouds have been gathering. Dadi has fired the first "goli". Bring Shyam back. So this is how it will be. Blame games from dadi and tears from Anji.
Still think Arshi will go ahead with their remarriage next week.
Meanwhile natkhat Kanha is busy teasing his Radha and enjoying every adorable moment of it.😆

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Khushi
Aww. You poor thing. Hope you aren't nervous for nothing.

"I was just trying to make sure u aren't scared" 😆😆😆😆😆

It's funny. Whenever I imagined Arshi actually getting down to doing "IT", I imagined Khushi scared and nervous just like now. May be even more so. Something like Arnav comes in the room expecting to see her bridally arranged on the bed but the bride is ghayab. She is hiding in the cupboard again praying to Devi maiyya to save her. That's where the groom finds her and has to chase her around the room before getting her to calm down enough to have a conversation. So they make a deal that khushi will be the one to initiate things. There is a rule though. She has to sleep in his embrace. So they sleep cuddled up to one another and when Khushi wakes up in the middle of the night the sheer force of love she has for this man overwhelms her. Her hands start caressing his face of their own volition. He wakes up but pretends to be asleep. Emboldened she proceeds to kiss him. That's when his control shatters and then bitiyas all bets are off. Ok ok. I'm back from SKD. Back to Khushi.
The girl is a bundle of nerves. Wore her clothes backward, made jalebi instead of kheer and poured water into dadi's glass of milk!!!😲😲😲
I was expecting another tirade from dadi but she only gave her a "bevaqoof" look and left it at that. Somebody is scared of riling somebody?😆😆😆😆😆
Mamiji -NK
What were you guys thinking? Advertising the lamp n wick show? Or was it supposed to be a jibe? Couldn't tell.😕😕😕😕
The plot thickens. Revelations are being made. So both parents committed suicide. One after the other. Arnav holds Dad responsible for Mom's death. Does he know why they committed suicide? Somehow I think he doesn't know the whole story. It seems like his world came crashing around him that day. Without preamble.

Waiting for Monday and another exciting week of Ipkknd.👏👏👏👏
Edited by Sanayam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This post is From Sheila (S003).. Just Enjoy!!



Hello Hello,
Please be advised following is a mamoth post as I missed writing yesterday due to extreme illness, I mean anybody who watched yesterday's episode will know I would have had to be gravely ill not to write.
Let me just dive right in I can't keep it in me anymore...
The 3 times Arnav Singh Raizada Laughed his heart out...
The first time: ASR was kind off pissed of he showed vulnerability in front of KKG (of all people), he fainted, he couldn't stand, she fed him, he probably DID NOT WANT TO SEE HER AGAIN THAT DAY!!!! But there she was standing at the door asking him if he was ok. Then to his utter dismay she walks in and starts talking a mile a minute, she has no idea she has some stuff on her hand and she wipes her face in embarssement. He is trying to get her to stop talking about the whole awkard situation so he points it out to her, instead of paying attention to what he is saying she is still talking a mile a minute and seems more worried about him forgiving her, what the hell for anyways. But in the mean time she looks like a clown... He couldn't help but laugh...
Khushi on the other hand had never seen him laughing before, it stunned her... yes he was laughing at her but the sight was so shocking...shockingly wonderful that she didn't mind. That was the first time she witness the innocence behind the hard exterior.
The second time: ASR had everything where he wanted it to be... The Guptas were losing, the Raizada's winning and Khushi was about to take the stage. He was entralled with her dancing, lost in how wonderfully she enjoyed each movement, and had the best time while making sure everyone was entertained. Then everything went to hell...
Khushi knew she was over stepping boundaries...she knew that in a sangeet its traditional to make fun of the other side... yet she was picking on the toughest one of the lot...when has Khushi ever cowed down from a challenge. Yet somewhere deep down she was nervous. Then he challenged her... and all the nervousness went away...
He stood there in shock...first he thought did she just throw a flower at me... has she lost it...then the person immitating me... her audacity... his temper just flew off the handle... then he heard the words, she was actually telling him how she felt about him... Then he thought to himself... that girl is doing a pretty good impression of me... Jeezz do I really behave this way... and before he knew it he was laughing... at himself...at her... only she would have the guts to throw his crap in his face like that. She is the only one who called him out on his CRAZY behaviour and habits...
She knew he could react very very badly, and therefore she ended her performance by holding her ear, silently apologizing... but secretly glad that he had found it funny...see she knew he had a sense of humour after all...
The third time: ASR stood awkwardly shocked staring at his wife... what the he thought when had she seen him naked... Then she brought out his baby picture... for a second he was relived...then he realized... its not going to be possible to maintain his intimidating persona with such a picture in his wife's hands, I mean there is a rubber ducky in the picture, he might have loved the thing but please, and not to mention his "family jewels". He had to get it back. Chasing Khushi around the room, this wouldn't do, I mean Khushi was the last person who should have such a potent incriminating product in her hands... He was going to jump for it and he did. But the thundering crash made him realized that all this activity was too much for his bed which was not used to anything but singular action... And then it all sunk in... Arnav Singh Raizada, a self made man...who has risen from obscurity chased his wife around their room and broken the bed... And just like that the burdens he carried melted away in the peels of laughter that followed.
This time though neither one laughed at the other... They laughed together... And the laughter washed away his pain... But please remember he is the one and only ASR, he got the picture from her before he got up... Khushi had never seen him enjoying himself like this before... never seen him laughing at a situation... so infectuous was his laughter that she joined in herself... he was opening up showing her a whole new self... But just like that he remindered her he was ASR always in control...but hey she didn't mind that at all...

Part 2
The family notices...
Payal and Khushi are sitting down... Payal is Khushi's sister "PERIOD" like a true sister she says Dadi is just being hard on Khushi...Yes she knows Khushi is kind of "kookie" but she has no malice in her heart and is the best person she knows. She also knows Khushi hates when people don't like her... and this person is important to Arnav... Khushi needs this reassurance, Payal knows that about Khushi... Payal also knows Khushi's tendency to focus on the bad and forget about the good that happened. She reminds her about how strongly Arnav supported her, how he took up for his wife. Told everyone there she has full rights over everything he has and can do anything she likes. Payal points out that she had no idea he could be so possessive (over Khushi), getting Khushi to admit that she herself didn't know that about him. Payal feels a satisfaction that her sister has someone who has her back. Will not let anyone say anything to her. Then she says, she is very lucky to have someone like him... Very poignant words...perhaps Payal wishes Akash would stand up for her just as Arnav did for Khushi... Akash has before in his own way... but it did not put an end to the touture that she has to bear. Where as Arnav... he stood like a rock putting a FULLSTOP to any doubts about Khushi's presence in his life... Words laced with a tinge of envy... So very realistic... Payal's words have made Khushi realize what Arnav has done for her... validated her existence...reciprocated her love and how...
Akash and Arnav are doing their official business. Akash sees Arnav smiling at the paper... OH Wait a second... is bhai smiling ...randomly...What the... but Akash realizes he likes bhai smiling... he has seen him this way a long ...long time ago. In fact his happiness is infectious. So he casually asks, why is he so happy... nothing its just a good day was Arnav's response... Just a good day Akash repeats... I can't remember when last he said that to me. I like it Akash thinks to himself, I am happy to see him smile.
Why am I writing about this... Random and not so random moments. Why... Because there is a change in the protagonist of our show... and their family is noticing...Khushi for the first time is being shown what her position is... Remember Khushi has been reminded many a time by her buaji, amma and even Payal that she is adopted... Even Arnav said to her, he wished he never met her...This is what she is used to ... but now he is teaching her how to be confident with her position. Confidence in her rights is something she has never had. So... this is important for her. Arnav on the other hand is just happy... He hasn't been happy in forever and a day... Khushi has spread warmth in his life... And that warmth is running thru him touching everything that he touches...
I feel like I am writing a book... if you are with me so far... thank you... there is so much to discuss and I haven't even reached today's episode... Sorry guys... please bear with me...
Khushi has started on unsure steps to walk towards Arnav... she knows she is in love with him... goes to him and hugs him... for no reason... he wasn't kidnapped...she was afraid... just because she can... a silent physical thank you... Arnav is a little shocked... for her to react physically like that something must be bothering her big time, and he won't have that...not on his watch... When she apologizes he assures her its not her fault... Wow what a change in Arnav... Loved it. Loved it. Loved it. But Mr. ASR did you forget who you were dealing with Mrs KKGSR! She had other things on her mind to harrase you. The bed breaking scene I have already gone through...

Part 3
The Shaadi: For the first time ever Khushi has a saathi... a true partner... with whom she can face all things... but suddenly she realizes this very legal partner is actually only a half partner???? She has accepted her love for him... he has accepted his love for her... so without fear she goes to tell him they must complete all the steps... ofcourse she wants it all because she knows she has the right partner. In Khushi's defense she didn' t forget about the rituals its just that in the last two days she really wants to be married to ASR, before that she didn't I mean do you really blame her? he was all kinds of CRAZY!!!
We have seen the Shaitan in Arnav but are we ready for his Shaintani???? I'm not yaar... meri halat tight ho rahi hai...
First, he knows Khushi is maha uncomfortable with the disclosure of their bed breaking... he doesn't care... he is clued in and has decided to make it worst for her... he winks she is shocked at this behaviour... my heart is somewhere around my knees... Then he listens patiently as she recites her desires... but there is some naughtiness that creeps in... afterall she had teased him now its his turn... Pay back is a B**** Mrs KKGSR. He entraps her... beautifully... She falls hook line and SINKER!!! And me... I'm blushing... smiling...laughing... (seriously I'm acting like a hormonal teenager). ASR doesn't let up he now knows she is nervous as hell... he is taking full advantage of it... reminding her... being the caring husband which is worrying her more... He is being so perfect that she is getting more and more nervous... LOVE IT!!!
OK Setting changes from all the good fun to all the good drama...
Anjali and Arnav: Arnav catches Anjali going through an album, he wants to move to into the future. He wants them to support one and other and move away from their past... What is Anjali doing... hiding the album... clinging on to the past... It is one thing to say they are moving on... quite the other to actually do it. The one thing I have come to know about Arnav and Anjali is that Anjali talks of doing stuff but never does it... Arnav does stuff... Because Anjali is still holding on to the past... she is unable to learn the very difficult lessons from it and apply the lessons in her present and save her future. She is therefore destined to repeat the same mistakes that her mother made. Trusting the wrong persons... She now has begun to lie to Arnav... Mami and everyone because she wants to secure her love... in her defense she knows she must trust her Chotte but her heart won't let her. She loves her husband... And so her past will become her present...
Mami and Anjali: Mami is a mother hen...she knows that there is something that is not right with Anjali and so she is clued into her. She wants to be assured that she is ok.
Nani and Dadi: Nani feels guilty, guilty that her grandson refutes his fathers claim on his life, that her granddaughters life is in shambles and therefore she is giving Dadi a free reign... however... she stand like a rock when the times comes, she will stand up proud for the man her grandson has become.
Mami and Arnav: Mami might be materialistic... we know that... insecure...she demonstrates that everyday... however... she has a good heart... she has always been there for Arnav and Arnav knows that. There is a special relationship here, she is another person from whom Arnav doesn't mind being made fun off. She has stood up for him when he had nothing. Why am I bring this up now you might ask... Welll because some people claim to have a place in Arnav's life because of relationships... Mami has on the other hand earned her place...
Dadi and Mami: Dadi has been very rightly put into her place by one Mr. ASR, he has told her yes I respect you... But you need to respect my space...my life... the life that I have built for myself without your guidance or blessing... Dadi now stands on unsure grounds. She is used to being the matriach... people dancing around her... to her tune... she is desperately trying to gain power and so she cues in on old alliances... Mami... Here she knows she will easily be able to intimidate Mami... because she has done it before... Mami on the other hand knows she needs to get out of this situation immediately because she is in grave danger... She also wants to protect her niece and nephew...
Dadi and Arnav: Ok so this is epic right... epic confrontation... First, Dadi is shocked to know that Arnav doesn't associate himself with his father... he has truly created his own persona... She has no control over this man... He is not the boy who used to run around her... Now she seeks answers... she has been told that she cannot take her son's name in the house... her grand daughter in law has free reign in the house... and she cannot say anything bad about her daughter in law... Firstly... I'm sure this women doesn't like to be told what she can or cannot do... secondly, she clearly things the world of her son, who has wronged not only his wife but also his children... Can you imagine the pride of this woman... she is standing in her grandson's house... where his maternal grandmother resides... a grandmother who has taken him in when no one was there for him... and she calls this woman's daughter and this man's mother a weak women... this line shocked me to the core... This was epic!!! ASR true to his words has created his own destiny... he removed himself from the past and moved to the future... Today he stands on the cusp of that future holding Khushi's hand... however there are two forces pulling him back to the past... Anjali (unbeknowst to him) and Dadi... how will he make it through...
If you have read my post in the past you know I save what I think is the best for last... and this to me knocked the ball out of the park...
DADI and NK: NK was being his normal self here and Dadi asks him what kind of upbringing he has had. Firstly, one thing about kids who grow up abroad... They are taught from a very young age to question authority... Many a time I have seen a child ask their parents... teachers... elders... "but why"... curiosity is encouraged... why do people do this in the west? Because they want their kids to grow... understand rather than follow... become future leaders...I'm quoting Michael Gladwell's book Outliers here... I know and identify this because I grew up in India and I had to teach myself this trait when I moved to the west. Very very hard lesson... So when NK was being casual and curious with Dadi she took offense because she is from another school of thought. Old fashioned I may say... Where as Nani encourages NK and would allow him to learn from her... she realizes that he hasn't been around and he doesn't mean disrespect. I know this scene was meant for comic relief but to me it meant so much because for the second time around IPKKND has tackled an underlying issue that is occuring everywhere... the generation gap was captured without hooplaa... and beautifully executed...This isn't such an obvious issue... but it is one that every Indian every where in the world faces... WELL DONE CV'S CATERING TO YOUR AUDIENCE.
Ok so I'm almost done ... special mention for a certain Mr. Jha...
Even though you are not seen you are always present...
He is arming himself... get Anjali to his side... check...Dadi questioning Arnav...check... the family to pick sides...check... and the Raizada's will come crashing down...check
The penultimate mastermind is perfecting his moves... will he make a mistake in his overconfidence again... Yesterday, he showed up to the house... today he invited Anjali out... the game of cat and mouse has just began... And this time he will ensure that he wins... because on all sides this opponent (ASR) stands to LOSE!!! and that is how Shyam Manohar Jha plays!!!!
I will not pick out any members of the cast to appreciate, because each and everyone played their parts and to the T... You guys are the best ensemble on TV!!!
CV's you have made me a hormonal teenager... and proud NRI... given me fun...romance...drama...suspense...and everything rolled into one amazing AMAZING SHOW but most of all you have given me friends on this forum and this thread for which I will be eternally grateful!!!
To my friends on the redux... if you have reached here...Thank you... if you left off half way ...Thank you... For all the encouragement, and promotion Thank you...
See I am feeling the love and instead of writing succinctly I'm writing horribly long posts... Blame Tant... if she keeps encouraging me this is what is going to happen...
I have been sick and busy and my time management skills suck so please if I haven't responded to your PM's kindly forgive me I will respond I promise.
To my Darling Sandhya... chal to TO aaja what would I do without you and your danda...
And that was my Two (feels like forty two) cents
S
P.S. Please send me PM's with your thougths... I went over board today... but I hope you guys will let me know if you liked it ... or not... either way... would love to know ... Thanks again. Also thank you for putting up with my horrible spelling.
Edited by mommamia - 12 years ago
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Today Hopefully I would not be contradicted by anyone if I say that the second part of the episode was most intriguing. The conversation between Arnav and his Dadi was the most captivating part of the entire episode. Hats off to both Barun and Swati Ji for literally living and breathing as ASR and Dadi...👏👏👏👏

Today we all witnessed Dadi accusing Arnav for making the same mistake that he made before...What mistake did he make..???

She points out the importance of Shyam in Anjali's life. She points out that the baby needs to take the dad's name. She accuses Arnav for stealing the baby's right and making the baby grow without his or her dad...the same way he grew without his dad...This statement was enough for Arnav to charge like a bull...and leash his anger... I had to grow without my dad because he committed suicide. Not only did he do that he also pushed my mom to commit suicide before him... My heart went out for Arnav today who had to live his whole life thinking his parents never cared enough for myself and his sister to stay alive'''..

Dadi counter attacks him by stating a simple truth that your mother was not courageous enough to stay alive and protect her family and children...for a moment Arnav is lost without an answer...he regains and instructs Dadi to never say anything about his mom...

But the truth is Arnav did know that his mom was not a fighter she choose to leave them...but today that was voiced out by Dadi...

A small boy, who had just entered his adolescent years, couldn't enjoy the joys of life the teen years presented. At fourteen years he loses the love of his mom not by natural cause, but because she committed suicide. Suicide is a moment decision but a decision taken without knowing the implications of the effects that it would have on the lives of those around them. You live life only once and to finish it at your free will is simply escapism...Suicide, an immediate solution to the problems for the person committing it but a life sentence for the loved ones who witnesses that and continue their journey of life.

They live through each day with the haunting truth was I responsible for that, could I have saved my mother, I didn't do enough, She left me without thinking about me & my sister, we weren't important to her otherwise she wouldn't have done that. You left us mom, I hate you''no sorry mom'..I could never hate you''..I love you so much''..you should have never left us'''.I can never be you and I will never be like you. I will face this world, protect my sister and fight against this world. I am a fighter'''...

Next the anger focusses on the person responsible for it. In this case his dad. You pushed her to do that. Guilt'..guilty of negligence, guilty of not being a good husband to his wife, guilty of spoiling the life of a girl because of lust and finally guilty of snatching away the mother from his children had pushed the snr Malik to follow his Wife's path. Was that the right path. No''.Was anyone benefited by his sucide''.No'''

"When people kill themselves, they think they're ending the pain, but all they're doing is passing it on to those they leave behind." - Jeannette Walls

Today we see an ASR who had always tried to prove to this world that he is not a coward and he can never let others decide his fate. He is a fighter and he writes his own fate whether it's right or wrong and take things under his control. The most important thing or rather the best thing about making a decision is that you can never blame anyone else for the outcome. You are solely responsible for it.

Now who else other than Arnav is a fighter''A fighter who does it in her own style''who couldn't be controlled by the Mighty ASR himself''.Of course it's our darling Khushi''.. He fell in love with her for the same reason''.

May be this was the reason he was always pulled towards Kushi from the beginning. A quality he adored and never found so far in any one else not even in Lavanya. He tested Khushi in every possible way only to be proved wrong.

Khushi was eight years old when she lost her parents. She was literally a baby who was completely dependent on her parents from decision making to everything...She didn't even have the exposure that ASR had.

Khushi's parents were snatched from her by fate...try snatching a doll from a child and see their reaction...Sometimes I am confused and wonder with whom was life more cruel to...Khushi whose parents were snatched away from her by fate or Arnav & Anjali whose parents choose to leave them without thinking about them

Whatever is the answer I finally settle for the fact that two fought for their survival and one yet to fight...

Now coming to the rest of the episode. The morning started with Arnav happily reminding his beautiful wife that tonight it's there Suhaag raat. He loved watching her reactions and the affects his words had on her. He walks out with a smirk on his face only to be greeted by his Brother Akash, who requests him for some signatures in a deal. He signs the deal with the smile still lingering in his face. Akash notices this smile and enquires the reason for it and if there was any good news that he wants to share. Arnav merely replies that it's just a good day.

Here I have to point out something I felt when I was watching this scene...

Arnav became an adult and lost his innocence on the day his mom committed suicide. when he lost his dad the family responsibility was automatically bestowed on his shoulders. The responsibility he was never shy off. But in that process he completely lost his adolescent days. He never got to live as a carefree teenager. Today I could see him reliving those days. Carefree teasing Khushi more like his girlfriend''and the walk in the corridor before being interrupted by Akash'..was too good''

Ok now back to the episode...

A frightened Khushi is greeted by Payal in the kitchen who mentions the fear she had before her Suhaag raat. This answer doesn't help Khushi and she becomes more anxious. We all know the implication of our anxious Khushi...More Jelabies, Salwar suit inside out and she went one step ahead and filled the rest of the glass with water...which initially had milk in it...

Arnav enjoys the outcomes of her petrified actions pulls her aside and reminds her yet again about their Suhaag raat.

Anjali politely refuses Arnav's offer of accompanying her to the temple. She also refuses to take Mami to the temple and leaves the house silently. We can all safely assume that she had left the house to meet Shyam. When Anjali doesn't return in the speculated time Mami calls the driver to enquire. When the drives tells her that he had been waiting for two hrs in the temple, Mami hurries to inform Arnav, only to be stopped by Anjali's phone call stating that she is on her way back home.

The day her brother realises the fact that Anjali went behind his back and met Shyam he will be completely devastated. He will be left cheated by Anjali for whom he destroyed his Khushi's happiness...

Thank you IPKKND team for providing us yer another beautiful episode...Hats off to all the actors for there fabulous performance...👏👏👏

Thank you all for taking a moment to read my analysis...😃

Love

Sharmi😊

Edited by sharmibalan - 12 years ago
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Will try and write something if situation improves at home front.
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When the twain meet: Past and Present
Dadi to Arnav:
The past will always make it's presence felt...You cannot overlook it...But do not commit the same error that will mar your present ...


Arnav to Dadi:
The past cannot effect the present ...Does not deserve a worthy look now... It can never shape the present...

When the past and present meet...fireworks light up the horizon... because it is a spectacular event where the old order meets the new.. the past brings necessary learning for the present in its errors and hidden treasures ( truths) for the present to correct its course.. and together they shape a better future . It is not about who is wrong and who is right.. both have erring and victories..

Arnav has a better understanding of the present .. Shyam and Khushi.. and was not unjustified in his actions in whom to trust and mistrust...He was a 14 yr old kid when the events of the past unfolded on the fateful night who might not be aware of the entire truth of the situation or have the maturity of an adult to view the incident critically...He has not solved the puzzle of the past as he proudly thinks...

Dadi was in the thick of events as it played out in the past... she knew more about it than her young grandson then... her belief still holds true and may be justified with time...she has been away from her grandchildren for 14 yrs... they have grown up and are not the same as they were then...Arnav is living in the present he has a better knowledge of the incidents at Shantivan... Dadi is adamant on her staunch belief that she understood the drama behind the four walls of sheesh mahal so she knows what has transpired in Shantivan...She needs to be made aware that Shantivan and Sheesh Mahal are not same..they are very different from each other...

As the manthan of their ideologies and beliefs unfolds we will keep getting pearls of insights into the tragedy of the past to string it together and see how the knowledge of past and present shared by the grandson and grandma shapes up the future of Iss Pyar Ko Kya Naam Doon...
Edited by sunshine99 - 12 years ago
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Chalo..mai bhi kuch bak bak karleeithi hoon!! Agar poor a episode dekhneke himmat hei tho!

Filaal mei tho episode Dekhi nahi Magar suna hei ki daadi-ASR argument Se bhara..
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Finally Finally watched the episode!
So the past is catching up with Arnav :) Somehow, I just feel like there is some big mis-understanding that was not cleared at the time. I am not able to put a pulse of who is in the wrong here...but I have my doubts about suicide too...what is one of Arnav's dad/mom was murdered and staged as suicide? Not that we know if any of them saw them commit suicide in front of any witnesses...so at this point I am not ruling out anything.
I think that neutral party to show light to everyone is going to be Khushi...she is probably a victim of the war between the Jhas and the Maliks...and just as any war...a lot of innocents were victims...who were not on any side in particular...she might be that case.

The other thing that is standing out to me now, is that Arnav and Khushi have to get to that point in their relationship...where there is no return. Only then will the premise of the series..Nafrat paas aane na de aur Mohabbat door jaane na de will hold true. Yes, they are in love, they are close, but they still have not gone all the way yet, emotionally and physically; especially, as some others have pointed out...for a woman, in this case Khushi, who already wears her heart on her sleeve, if she takes that extra step towards physical intimacy, its going to make it more than impossible to break away from Arnav, should the situation arise.

So my 2 cents are that...they will go all the way...and then the whole truth will come out...so it makes it all the more dramatic and pulsating :)

Thanks to everyone for their positive comments and encouragement; Redux is an addiction!


Edited by droopy_asleep - 12 years ago
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Today's story

A very flustered, confused and scared Khushi is just not paying attention to her surroundings. She pours water into the Dadi's glass instead of nani's, wears her kurta the opposite way and makes jalebi's when nani asks her to prepare kheer. Her naughty husband continues to tease her asking if something is wrong and then reminds her about their SUHAG RAAT when they are alone. He's enjoying her discomfort very much.

Anjali is ready to leave for the temple and refuses the company of both Aranv and mami; she has a secret rendezvous with SOMEONE and is definitely not at the temple. Mami tries to contact her and on finding from the driver that he's' still waiting at the temple and no sign of Anjali, decides to tell Arnav.

Meanwhile, Dadi is grilling Nani about the whereabouts of damaad ji and why he hasn't come to see her. Even though Nani tries to pacify her, dadi does not want any more excuses. Arnav hears dadi's loud voice, comes down and tells the truth about kicking out Shyam because he gave Anjali a lot of grief and cheated on her. He has no intentions of bringing back Shyam, ever.

Dadi asks how Arnav was trying to protect his sister by sending away her husband; didn't he realize Anjali's kid will need the father and does he want the kid to grow up without the protection of the father just as he did? An angry Arnav tells her that he grew up without his father because he committed suicide and his mother was forced to commit suicide too. This, he will not let it happen to his sister.

Dadi hits a raw nerve by telling Arnav that his mother was a weak woman who didn't know how to take care of her family. She says he's still making the same mistake as in the past and supporting the wrong party. Arnav asks her not to bring up the past, the past that shattered the whole family. How hard he's tried to build back his life and to forget the past. Why is dadi bringing back old memories, doesn't she want them to forget the past? Dadi tells him we cannot run away from the past, but we can however fix the present, isn't it? By not bringing Shyam, the future of this house will definitely be affected. Arnav disagrees and feels that his decision is correct, both in the past and now; in the past it was dad's mistake and today it's Shyam's.

Nani comes and uses the ace card 'Anjali' to stop the confrontation and argument. She reasons with them that Anjali is happy because of the puja, so let's all stop for now. Dadi and Nani walk away one after another and Anrav is left all alone once again.

Lone Soldier

Arnav has always been the lone soldier, the one who was forced to grow up fast after his parent's died, take care of Anjali, pick up the shattered pieces of their lives, build a new life that they can call their own, run a business, ensure the safety and happiness of his family members etc. In all this he's had family support, but still he's all alone.

Isn't it true that we all have to fight our own demons? Help may come in the form of Khushi or someone else, but the fighting is ours and ours alone. Arnav is once again a lone soldier who's been fighting his past; he got a brief respite in all these years when he opened up to Khushi, but there's still a long way to go. So, what battles is he fighting now? His father cheated on his mother by having an affair just the way Shyam tried to do with Anjali and both his parents committed suicide and here we have Dadi who's bent of bringing up the past again and again, the same past he's trying to forget and move on.

Sometimes your worst nightmares come true, and in Anjali's case, it has come true in the form of husband being blamed, sepeartion and loneliness. Arnav who's chosen himself to fight her battles has jumped into the war field once again. Remember, Arnav married Khushi because of Anjail; Arnav threw Shyam out because of Anjali; today, Arnav's and Dadi's confrontation is once again because of Anjali. Wondering why Anjali is not fighting her own battles? It'll happen only when the family stops mollycoddling her and gives her a chance to fight on her own. I've said this before that she has to remove the blindfold that she's wearing and see Shyam for what he is.

Living in the past

Funny story: A guru and his young disciple were trying to cross a river. A young and beautiful woman joins them. She's scared of water and asks for help in crossing. The young disciple thinks to himself that touching a woman is a sin and god knows what'll happen, so he refuses. The guru without any hesitation picks up the young girl in his arms and starts walking. Once they reach the other side, he sets her on the shore. The young woman thanks him and leaves. The guru and disciple continue on their way, but guruji realizes something is bothering his disciple and asks him about it. The disciple then asks him how could he just pick up this young woman, she's of opposite sex, didn't he have any feelings, aren't they supposed to practice celibacy etc. etc. The guruji smiles and tells him, he was just doing his duty to a fellow being and forgot about the young woman completely the moment he left her on the shore and his responsibility was done. But, the disciple is still hanging on to her from the time he met her on the other side of the water front and is still unable to forget her. So, who's hanging on the past here? Shouldn't we learn to move on?

Note: Though a funny little story, it had a lot of meaning for me. So, I thought to include it here.

Let me ask a question. Who's not living in the past in the Raizada pariwar? Every single one of them is bearing the burden of the past, all except Akash.

Dadi ji, has been living in an ashram for about 14-15 years and we assume she's learnt to deal with her past by now. But, has she? Like the young disciple in the story, she's decided not to take up the responsibility, left her grandkids with nani and hasn't been in touch with them. Not only that, she's hanging on to the past without letting it go. Does she realize that her family is already burdened with too many things and they do not need the 'WOH HAADSA' and 'WOH AURAT' brought into the picture?

Instrument of Change

Having said what I did above, I'll give a slight different perspective about dadi. To perform a surgery, you need an instrument. In our case, the patient is Arnav Singh Raizada whose wounds have to be exposed first, the stuff gone bad has to be removed and then the wound has to heal. How to expose the wound? Just cut it open. The instrument in his case (yup, you guessed it) is none other than Dadi ji, she has no choice except to bring up the past which caused a deep wound in Arnav. Can one blame the instrument for doing its job? I'll leave you to your own decision.

Right and Wrong

After watching today's confrontation between Arnav and Dadi, I was thinking about whos' right and who's wrong. Arnav does not want his sister to be hurt again, he knows the truth about shyam and has made it clear that he will not bring back Shyam. His past is definitely affecting his decision here, so, he's right from his side. On the other hand Dadi feels that Arnav is siding with the wrong party (how does she know this?) and in her POV, Arnav's decision now is bound to affect the future i.e. future of the baby to be born. We never know how the baby will react once grown up and he/she finds out what Arnav did to his father. A very valid point from Dadi's side. BTW is Dadi evil? NO. Does she hate her grandkids? NO. Does she want the best for them? Yes. Considering all these, can we tell who's right and who's wrong? Once again, I leave the decision to you.

To ponder:

1) Will Dadi support Shyam if and when she comes to know the truth?

2) Does Anjali know what trouble she getting the family into by trying to meet with Shyam and hiding things?

Bahut Mazaa Aaya:

I think the whole episode was about confrontation, a FACE OFF, between grandmother and grandson. Swati Chitnis and Barun Sobti were fantastic👏👏👏. But, had a small problem with Barun's tone of voice; volume was not high enough in some places and I missed out on very important dialogs.

Jayashree T. - It's always a pleasure to see you.👏👏

Edited by chitmanas - 12 years ago
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JUST TO CLARIFY - In my theory, Khushi and Arnav are NOT related. Khushi is the child of her parents, and Arnav's dad just lusts after her mum. He didn't marry her or anything, therefore Khushi and Arnav are in no way related.
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Bonjour guys! First off, thank you so much to all of those who liked my post! Special thanks to Anu, Riyya, Shreya, Sathya, Shastradhari, Areeba, Joy, Rits, Shaz, Sharmi and Vasi for your lovely words, conversation and posts! Shaz, your guttery post has corrupted me! 😳

Yesterday's post: https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3140225&PID=62660785&#62660785
On Monday I will try to highlight points that I liked in all of the Redux posts of today because I've never done that before and I owe it to you guys to appreciate your comments as much as you guys appreciate mine.

I haven't seen the episode yet, so this analysis will be based on the LUs I read. But we got a Dadi-Arnav face-off apparently and a sweet teasing moment between ArHi. Aww, maza aa gaya! We'll obviously have to wait and see what the 'suhaag raat' will be like and the contents of the suitcase. Our gutter minds have a whole weekend to operate now! 😆

I'll briefly analyse the episode, but I want to share my theory of the past with you guys. This thought just suddenly emerged in my mind and it makes some sort of sense.

Scenes that stood out for me:
- Khushi going crazy thinking of her suhaag raat with Arnav 😆
The dialogue in yesterday's episode when she was against the wall reminded me of the Teri Meri dance, when he said that he wasn't going to eat her. He loves that dialogue 😉
Today's scene reminded me of that scene as well, where she said 'A-aap?' & he said 'haan, main'. Aww, ArHi are so cute!
- WHO IS ANJALI MEETING? Well, we all have an idea but maybe the CVs are trying to shock us? Although, the way she was texting like a giggly teen in the precap does suggest it's Shyam, but who knows? Then again, I did think that during the kidnapping track they wouldn't go down the obvious Shyam route, but they did. So maybe it is Shyam again. But Anjali, lying to everyone is not a good idea!
- Arnav-Dadi face-off. So Arnav's dad committed suicide too! I have written about that above. One good thing to come of that conversation is that Dadi now knows that Arnav has no intention of allowing Shyam to return, and we can see that Arnav wants to forget the past. Just as Khushi is helping him to forget by bringing happiness into his life, Dadi seems adamant to bring him down again. & when she spoke about him making the same mistake again, taking the wrong side, this made me think that Arnav is right in thinking of his dad as the villain. After all, Dadi thinks Arnav's judgement of Shyam is wrong, when we all know it's right. Fine, Arnav hasn't had the best track record when it comes to judging people, but I think he's right about his father. Or maybe the opposite is true - his initial judgement always tends to be wrong. We all remember what he initially thought of Khushi, that she wanted to sabotage him. His first thoughts on Shyam were that he's such a great brother-in-law. His impression of his father is that he's the bad guy - will that impression change in time? Arnav willing to put the past behind him sets a good foundation for his relationship with Khushi. It means that even when he discovers what part she played in all the events, they will overcome their issues and any separation will be temporary.

I hope that short analysis was better than no analysis!

Okay, the following analysis is probably not going to be true as it is difficult to say where other characters, for example Chacha and Garima fit into the picture, as well as Nani, Dadi and Shyam. This is merely my theory on what could potentially have happened.

I will say this again - I almost certainly don't think the doosri aurat is Khushi's mother. Mainly because everyone talks about Khushi being a lovechild of the two of them and I completely disagree with a half-sibling relationship between ArHi! HOWEVER, it may be possible (not the half-sibling thing - rather, Khushi's mother being the doosri aurat). Before I get tamaatars thrown at me, please hear me out. We all know that history tends to repeat itself in this show, right? Just the analysis I've done in the past few days proves this. So what if the Arnav-Khushi-Shyam-Anjali love triangle is a repeat of past events? For the sake of this, Arnav & Khushi are representing Khushi's parents, and Anjali and Shyam are Arnav's parents. 'Arnav and Khushi' may have both been desperately in love and gotten married. They then had a baby. But 'Shyam' lusted after 'Khushi', despite being married to 'Anjali' and having two children of his own (remind you of anything? Anjali's expecting twins...). Shyam, being completely crazy over Khushi, may have wanted to kill Arnav so that he could leave Anjali and be with Khushi (or commit bigamy and be married to them both, intending for neither to discover the truth). But remember back to the kidnapping track, Shyam left Khushi for dead. He decided that if he couldn't have Khushi, no one could. So Shyam then arranged for an accident to take place, and both of them died in the accident (we've all seen Shyam's murder attempts before). Shyam, unable to take the guilt and grief he felt after losing Khushi, committed suicide because he went crazy in his love for her. Anjali, unable to live without him, then committed suicide herself. Okay, so I need to amend my story a bit. According to what Arnav said in yesterday's episode, his mother committed suicide first. Dadi said she was 'weak', so maybe she couldn't cope with the fact that her husband was going after another woman and she committed suicide. Her husband, then realising that he's lost both his wife and the woman he was lusting after 'committed suicide'. Personally, I don't think he did. I'll stand by what I've said all along & I don't think their father committed suicide. From what they've shown Arnav's dad to be like, he's sly and cunning. I still think he faked his own death as he didn't want the responsibility of taking care of his children, and maybe Dadi's here to try to pave his way into RM. This is baseless speculation, but I have a strong feeling that Dadi does have some motives for her sudden arrival, as well as her sudden disappearance. This is all part of a grander plan. I also think Nani's hiding something... daal main kuch kaala hai with regards to her behaviour.

I'm in no way saying that history will repeat itself this time, but I couldn't help but notice the parallels. I think in a way what is happening now is an indication of what could have happened before; the truth could have come out and 'Shyam' could have been stopped before he went to such an extreme.

Please, if anyone has anything to add to this do let me know. I'd be very interested to read your theories and whether you feel any of the other characters would be able to slot in at all.

Have a great guttery weekend guys!
Ghausia

P.S. I've made some gifs of legendary Mami from yesterday's episode & some of ArHi falling. I originally had posted them on here, but I decided to make a Tumblr blog for my IPKKND stuff, so my gifs are there too:
https://ipkkndgifs.tumblr.com
Edited by .Ghausia. - 12 years ago

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