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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Jyoti,

A very thorough, well thought out and most necessary post, that addresses the need to close a major gap in the PR script.

But then, my dear, this omission by the CVs is as deliberate as Ovi's not listening to Arjun when he calls her the morning after his interlude with Aashana, or Arjun's not telling DK about Purvi at once without opting for a 'surprise' at the party (some surprise!). Without this carefully enforced omission on the part of Archana, she could not have treated either Arjun or Purvi the way she has done over the past 2 weeks.

I would just like to repeat here for you an extract from my response to Janhvi on the thread of my Out of Character post of yesterday, if you will bear with me, for I think it is very relevant to the question you have posed. Of course, in discussing this, we have to move away from blaming the CVs, and treat the characters, including Archana, as beings with an independent will of their own.
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Janhvi:
Even Kunti felt the pull of motherhood when she met Karna face to face, Archana is after all a mere mortal, full of foibles and churning emotions, it is but understandable for her to feel overwhelmed by the sight and presence of her lovely daughter, Ovi. She is still pre-occupied with her lost dream, a life with Manav and her daughters and so for her not to (unconsciously) want Ovi's ex to become Purvi's current is natural.

My response:
I do not quite accept the Kunti parallel. The welling up of maternal love that Kunti feels on seeing this splendid eldest son of hers is a fact, just like Draupadi's feeling of regret that if this had been known earlier, Karna too might have been her husband. (It is because of this moral 'slippage' of hers that Draupadi was downgraded among the Panchakanya - Sita, Ahalya, Tara, Draupadi and Mandodari - Panchakanya smare nityam, sarva papa vinashakam -if you meditate on the panchakanyas, you will be free of all your sins).

To revert, Kunti is above all keen to ensure that Karna does not kill any of her other sons. She does not love Karna more than the others, and never more than Arjuna.


With Archana, it seems to me that her love for Purvi has been dimmed ever since she found out about her and Arjun. It is now Ovi who is the centre of all her preoccupations, plus the suffering Manav goes thru because of, as she says, Arjun (and the ever present undertext, Purvi).


If she could make Ovi happy by jettisoning Purvi, I have an uneasy suspicion that she would do it, and there would be none of the terrible anguish of a
Sophie's Choice either. Whence the savagery of her initial attack against Purvi, and her virulent hostility against Arjun, not so much for the stated reason that he is untrustworthy, but really because he has abandoned the apple of Archana's eye.

No, this is not natural, Janhvi. A mother should be rent in half by the need to make such a choice, as Sophie was, but for Archana, there is no such anguish, no compassion for Purvi, no empathetic suffering. She looks at the shrinking girl with open hostility when she asks
Kahaan gayee thi? , and her eyes are as hard as agates.
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It was the same today. Archana's voice and demeanour, as she asks Purvi How did you know he is working in a garage? Have you met him? would have gladdened the heart of a member of the Spanish Inquisition. There was not an iota of sympathy or empathy for Purvi and her feelings. This has been described in the Brief Update thread as being 'tough love". It is not my idea of any kind of love, and if I were Purvi, I would have another word for it.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Over the past couple of weeks, there has been major drama in ARVI's lives with the open proclaimation of Arjun's love for Purvi as we all know. But, for me, something is still missing. Arjun has declared to one and all about his love and his commitment to Purvi. It was absolutely marvellous...Yes, we have also seen Purvi's commitment to him in that beautiful rain scene.

My one greivance is, that so far, there is no direct conversation between Archana and Purvi about Purvi's feelings for Arjun. Even Sulochana was wise enough to ask Purvi if she loved Arjun and Purvi mustered enough courage to admit to her. How come Archana hasnt asked her about it yet even once? For the kind of bond between them, i would expect this conversation/confrontation to happen immediately after Arjun's declaration. After all this, how come Archana hasnt reflected back on Purvi's anguish after the engagement, her depression later on. She herself had tried to question Purvi a few times back then. Why is it that she is not thinking about it now? Forget what Arjun's feelings are. Granted, Archana has a right to question his feelings (although done in an unacceptable way) given the circumstances. But, why is she not even asking Purvi about what she feels? I dont think that it is the case that Archana doesnt care about Purvi. so, why this reluctance? Is it because she is afraid to listen to what Purvi has to say? Is it because then, she will have to choose between the two daughters? Doesnt Purvi deserve this from her mother? I am still taken aback by Archana's behavior in this regard.
I don't think Purvi with all her dedication to Aai, will ever speak up about her feelings to Archana by herself. Quite a few times, it happens in real life too. It falls on the parent to have a direct confrontation. Children tend to avoid these situations unless needed.
All this still niggles my mind. For me, this is still an incomplete circle, given the bond between Archana and Purvi..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala,
You have the right word for it "Spanish Inquisition"..I was taken aback at the tone when Archana started off on Purvi, and this is in no way "tough love"...by any standards. this is just "Did u dare?" kind of an attitude. How does she expect Purvi to be not affected by Arjun's declaration? It is like a split personality thing with her. She can demand, dominate, coerece Purvi here because the poor girl doesnt even stand up to her well, who is always weighed down by gratitude to her mother. Where as, at the D house, she cannot even utter a single sensible sentence correctly and completely. What a paradox...
I wish and hope that at some point, Purvi expresses her confidence in Arjun's ability more vociferously to Archana. Today, she started out ok but tamed down so quick it was the most annoying and disappointing part of it. Why is she standing there and not showing her confidence in Arjun? Is she doubting Arjun's confidence herself? If Purvi really loves Arjun like she claims to, she will have to do that. Should not be taking crap at Arjun even from her Aai.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think the only person who can & will set Archana straight is Sulo...I feel that at some point Sulo will tell Archana the harsh truth and then again we might feel sorry for Archana, but she deserves to be told the harsh truth...and the harsh truth is : She is in favour of her own blood instead of being a mother who stands above parties and be sensible. Being sensible means : giving an opportunity to and listen to the full truth instead of drawing a nonsense conclusion that Arjun doesn't love Purvi or Purvi doesn't love Arjun 😡 and on top of that telling Purvi to choose btw her or Arjun...what kind of BS is this ??? Is this the sensibilty of a mom ????
Now that I am thinking abt it , I don't think that Purvi will go against Archana, otherwise again ppl will say that she's ungrateful to go against Archana after all she's done for Purvi. But ppl should not forget that giving parvarish to someone does not make that person your possesion...coz every individual has her / his own mindset...
And Archana is being totally unfair to Purvi at the moment, although some call it being strict...duhhh
I get the feeling that archana cannot stand the fact that Purvi has got what Ovi did NOT get...and she just want to discourage Purvi with her nonsense talk that Arjun will give up after just 4 days 🤬.
But Archana dear : you will be in for a big surprise, coz Arjun will not give up until he gets Purvi !!!!
And then I want to see how Archana handles it
Edited by esha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I dont know if there will be a day when i will feel sorry for Archana, atleast for the current one. Dont know about the past, wasnt following PR then but as of now i think that most of her misery is brought on by herself.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Esha,

Very good post. As fir @red, it is spot on.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: esha

I loved that Purvi told Archana that she did wrong with Arjun, but when Archana started her bhashan , Purvi kept quiet. But I feel that when Purvi sees Arjun determination ( remember Arjun has just started the challenge ) , she will finally stand up for Arjun even if that means going against Archana if she doesn't change her attitude...

The less said about Archana at the moment, the better. I know Purvi hid the truth from her, but with this attitude how does she expect Purvi to tell her entire truth ??? And for me Archana's behaviour clearly indicates that she's favouring her blooddaughter over her adopted daughter...sorry
Cause I am willing to bet that if Ovi was in Purvi's place and Purvi in Ovi's, she would never behave like she's doing now...
I will forgive Archana when I see she's doing justice to both girls...let Purvi have Arjun when he proves himself and try to make Ovi understand that Arjun can never be hers, coz he doesn't love her.
She should not try to behave strict with Purvi & Arjun thinking that Arjun will give up, just to pacify her husband & beti...
So I want to see what Archana does when Arjun gives her the money...will she keep her promise OR will she back out from it

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Esha,

I agree with wrt Sulochana, but she will make such a definitive statement only when the situation is at breaking point, for if she does manage to overrule Archana and let Purvi marry Arjun right now or very soon, then a major thread will end, for somehow, I do not think PR is going to go on beyond the double happy ending for Arjun-Purvi and Archana-Manav.

Of course our Archana has a theory, that has worked till date, that both these couples cannot be happy at the same time, but let us see.

This apart, @red, I think you are absolutely correct. I feel very strongly about this, and I can only quote from my PAP post of June 30:

There have been so many voices calling for people to reason with Ovi. Why are there none (except our Archana's) calling for Purvi to rediscover her backbone and reason with her aai? Archana may have made her what she is, but Purvi is not her property to dispose of as she wishes. Nor should Purvi be made to pay her back her parvarish ki keemat (the price of her upbringing), like the doodh ki keemat (the price of the mother's milk) that mothers in the 1970s films used to demand to whip their errant sons into line.

Shyamala


Originally posted by: esha

I think the only person who can & will set Archana straight is Sulo...I feel that at some point Sulo will tell Archana the harsh truth and then again we might feel sorry for Archana, but she deserves to be told the harsh truth...and the harsh truth is : She is in favour of her own blood instead of being a mother who stands above parties and be sensible.

Being sensible means : giving an opportunity to and listen to the full truth instead of drawing a nonsense conclusion that Arjun doesn't love Purvi or Purvi doesn't love Arjun 😡 and on top of that telling Purvi to choose btw her or Arjun...what kind of BS is this ??? Is this the sensibilty of a mom ????

Now that I am thinking abt it , I don't think that Purvi will go against Archana, otherwise again ppl will say that she's ungrateful to go against Archana after all she's done for Purvi. But ppl should not forget that giving parvarish to someone does not make that person your possesion...coz every individual has her / his own mindset...

And Archana is being totally unfair to Purvi at the moment, although some call it being strict...duhhh
I get the feeling that archana cannot stand the fact that Purvi has got what Ovi did NOT get...and she just want to discourage Purvi with her nonsense talk that Arjun will give up after just 4 days 🤬.
But Archana dear : you will be in for a big surprise, coz Arjun will not give up until he gets Purvi !!!!
And then I want to see how Archana handles it

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