A tribute to Dev & Radhika-Video Index: pg2, post2 - Page 36

Originally posted by: why6

Misti, I totally got this one wrong as Rohan didn't even occur to me. Even for Dev and Radhika, I was thinking of different scenes.

But I see your point about Rohan mocking and pestering Radhika. There is one scene that I just downloaded yesterday that was between Rohan and Radhika. It is a very interesting scene because Rohan was both trying to entreat her to accept him but then was also mocking her. So he did know how to irritate Radhika and she also knew how to answer him back. Their scenes used to be fun to watch just as Bholu and Rohan's scenes were. It is so bad that they did not use Rohan at all in last several months and made his character so minor during Barkha track. He was one interesting negative/grey character I loved to watch especially in his interactions with Bholu and Radhika. All three characters had such great chemistry with each other and all three are also very competent actors.

Originally posted by: why6

Misti, this VM is for you on your suggested song "Hare Hare Hare hum to dil se hare" from the movie "Josh".

This video took considerable time because I tried to make it different from others. Also I was trying to create a more descriptive story for this song. Once I finished, I realized that I was not satisfied with the final product. So I tried to refine it few times and have now given up as I was just changing the same parts over and over again. Also maybe this song was not appropriate for the story I tried to tell.

Friends, please give a honest feedback on what is wrong or right with the video. Is it too busy and should I have kept it simple? Does it seem disjointed etc...? I do not mind criticism, so feel free to be honest with your opinions.

Going back to the VM, I have titled it "The Sorrow of Love". The title is the copy of a poem by William B. Yeats. If I read the poem, it is from Dev's perspective. In Dev's context, I interpret this poem as him having a life where he thought that his life was complete. He convinced himself that he was a part of a loving family when it wasn't so. Radhika coming into his life and him thinking that it was a doomed love made him realize a different truth. That the images of a perfect family in his mind were actually a sham and he felt lonely among the same things that had made him complacent before. This is not the interpretation of the original poem, but I have interpreted it as such for Dev's story.

However, this VM is both from Dev and Radhika's perspective. There is despair in this song on both Dev and Radhika's part. So most of the video is about loss of a lover. But as I don't like to end anything on pessimism, the last scene does indicate new hope. Hope it has come out the way I intended.

Here is the poem by W.B. Yeats:

The Sorrow of Love (By W.B. Yeats)

The brawling of a sparrow in the eaves,
The brilliant moon and all the milky sky,
And all that famous harmony of leaves,
Had blotted out man's image and his cry.

A girl arose that had red mournful lips
And seemed the greatness of the world in tears,
Doomed like Odysseus and the labouring ships
And proud as Priam murdered with his peers;

Arose, and on the instant clamorous eaves,
A climbing moon upon an empty sky,
And all that lamentation of the leaves,
Could but compose man's image and his cry.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1h_u4HkacU&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

I have started a new page in FB with Angie,s VMs as they are different in contents and concepts...Wanted more people should watch CB 2 again with new eyes like me ...I used to think CB 2 lacked emotional connectivity , but Angie has brought forth those emotionally charged scenes and expressions of both specially Dev who was denied his presence in later period , in Barkha,s period ...

here is the link of FB...

https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/246666118776716/

Originally posted by: august123

very poetic indeed, ur creations r pure gem, each one of them. thank u so much.

Originally posted by: misti73

Angie in CB2 there have been stand out scenes for me regarding certain characters...regarding Rohan the scene that has made the most impact on me was a scene between him and Radhika when Dev was sick in his room...Radhika wanted to go to Dev and Rohan was aware of that but he forced her to play a game of snakes and ladders.throughout the entire time he was mocking her and he deliberately lost the game so that Radhika stays back with him and does not go to Dev...that to me clearly indicated that Rohan was going to make Radhika pay for chosing Dev over him and he was prepared to loose some battles to get to his aim...the aim was teaching Radhika a lesson and to possess her. Soeven if Dev had told everything to Rohan then also most probably Rohan would have done the same...becuase his main issue was that Radhika chose Dev over him. His ego was hurt and he wanted to make them pay for that.

All the three characters...Radhika, Dev and Rohan had the capbility to carry the show and the actors were very good and had good chemistry with each other...unfortunately the makers went for artificial gimmicks and loud noise which completely drowned whatever was real in the show.

Originally posted by: misti73

Thanks Angie for the VM ...on the whole I liked it but I did find it a bit crowded. I liked the black and white and the monochromatic hues that you used in the flashback scenes but I felt that you were trying to tell too much in this song. I mean the combination of Radhika, Dev and Rohan made it a bit crowded for me in this song. It might be because when I heard this song, I had imagined it as was just for Dev and Radhika and their issues ...Rohan did not directly enter in it...so I liked the start..then the parts regarding Radhika trying to convince Dev and then Radhika and Dev's memories...but to me it would have ended with Radhika and Rohan entering the temple to get married and the pheres happening and Dev standing outside with a look of pain in his eyes.

I know that you don't like ending things with pessimism but the song is about pain and loss.Hope you didn't mind me being open regarding what didn't click for me.

I liked Yeats poem and how you have interpretated it.

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

I have started a new page in FB with Angie,s VMs as they are different in contents and concepts...Wanted more people should watch CB 2 again with new eyes like me ...I used to think CB 2 lacked emotional connectivity , but Angie has brought forth those emotionally charged scenes and expressions of both specially Dev who was denied his presence in later period , in Barkha,s period ...

here is the link of FB...

https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/246666118776716/

Originally posted by: why6

Misti, my second attempt at creating the VM. I am now much more satisfied with this version.

First of all, thank you for giving me the best possible ending for the song. When I make a VM, I usually have the beginning and ending of the song in mind before I even start. So I start with those parts and fill the middle parts later on. Here it was not the case. So I made the first two minutes of VM and then struggled with the rest. Then finally the ending came and I thought of this as Radhika's defeat where she is giving up on her dream of spending a life with Dev as she wanted to save his life. So closing the door to me signified the ending. But middle parts became so difficult to fill with this ending. Also the simplicity of the story was lost in obsession of adding too many special effects and flashbacks. I think I became like CB2 CVs whom I used to criticize so much where noise dominated the story and the theme got lost. That's why I asked for the constructive feedback.

Anyway once I read your ending, the whole VM suddenly became focused and I ended up changing almost the entire VM. I have only kept 2 minutes of original VM and rest of the scenes are all new. Hope this version justifies the song, title and the poem.

Misti, do still give me suggestions for even this version. I am not going to refine it anymore. But I can improve on the next one.

When Dev is in despair, I have shown his scenes as Black and White because for him life is bleak. His flashbacks of Radhika are in color because she represents the color in his life. Radhika who has deep faith on her side doesn't feel that bleakness even though she does feel low when Dev keeps on rejecting her. That's why her scenes are in color in the entire song. The initial flashbacks are in black and white to represent the past but there is color in the flashback too as Dev also represents color for her. Hope you like this interpretation of my technique.

The VM is titled "The Sorrow of Love".

The title is the copy of a poem by William B. Yeats. The poem is from Dev's point of view whereas the VM is from both Dev and Radhika's perspective. I interpret this poem as him having a life where he had tried to convince himself that his life was complete. That he was sorrounded by a loving family when it wasn't so. So he had suppressed his longing in his heart and were using these images to create a world that didn't exist. Radhika coming into his life and him thinking that it was a doomed love made him realize the truth. That the images of a perfect family in his mind were actually a sham and he felt lonely among the same things that had made him complacent before. So the loss of Radhika whom he found his anchor almost destroyed him even though it was his own actions that caused that loss. He was saved only because she fought for him and their relationship.

Here is the poem by W.B. Yeats:

The Sorrow of Love (By W.B. Yeats)

The brawling of a sparrow in the eaves,
The brilliant moon and all the milky sky,
And all that famous harmony of leaves,
Had blotted out man's image and his cry.

A girl arose that had red mournful lips
And seemed the greatness of the world in tears,
Doomed like Odysseus and the labouring ships
And proud as Priam murdered with his peers;

Arose, and on the instant clamorous eaves,
A climbing moon upon an empty sky,
And all that lamentation of the leaves,
Could but compose man's image and his cry.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62JX8v9DsQ&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]