Views on ARMAN FAMILY - From a old member :)

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi all😊,

After a long time I am posting something on PR.Though I didn't watch or follow it regularly these days,I was a old Fan of PR and ofcourse as some may know a fan of Old Archu.

I saw the last few epi's because of my friend's sister who told the track was on archu with her daughters.I was a ARMAN lover ,so got interest to see their family story.

On seeing that I would Like to Post something on the ArMan's daughters Teju and Ovi.

To all the Dear ones here, First I would like to clarify and inform that it wasn't a Provoking post or Hate post on any character.

Just wish to put the points and views which I felt like posting on seeing the Last few epi's(Thu,Fri and this Monday). Just views of an old member.
And wish to Post before their characters are butchered more.

So here I go. 😊

A thought came to post Just seeing the Girls from their shoes and POV.
When I analyse the reaction of the daughters ,I couldn't blame them.
We all Know how a Mother love is. How good and Divine it is to feel.
How immensely one need it and what that Warmth, Care and Love can do.

Haven't we seen it in PR on Tue by the first Morning scene. archu with her daughters.
After prayers, entering their room with the smile seeing them sleeping, covering with the Blanket, and the smile while returning back,
How much pleasure archu would have felt it, if it was done to the daughters at beginning stage How much care ,affection and love they would have felt it.

All this were missed ,All this were not there, not for one or two days or months but for 18 years.
I didnt want to go in Detail whose fault is ,How it Happened.

But Just Thinking from the side of Girls,
The day they came to know about their mother, the statements they talked ,the turmoil they went through and the tears of ovi seeing a mom at the roadside with her child ,all tells what they are made of.
I mean its a real outcome or reaction from such a child who has been abandoned Mother's Love.
We Know How it is and How it feel to be under the warmth of mother's love.

Those Girls where are not felt or given that. we the viewers know Savita had a Hand in it, archu's fault is there and so. But the Girls Dont.
For them their mother didnt give that and they are deprived of it. Thast what they have come across and informed.They have been abandoned that and as far they know, their mother Denied it.

Is these reaction from such a child wrong. All they said doesn't seem out of Box. If one were in their shoes, It wont seem Bad at all.

Ovi :


Accept she does talk bluntly. But does this comes just like that. No, its not a Habit, its a inner Hurt that grown and came out that way.
Even Teju said ,she used to control herself and it was Ovi who used to cry a Lot, and missed her mother a Lot.
It was Ovi, who was first crying all the way before seeing her mother. May be they show hate to see their mom, but innerly it shows some where their Hurt, helplessness along with Hatred came as tears.
Seeing the mother with the child on road side also it was Ovi who remembered and cried.

Doesn't all these show that the Girl was Vulnerable ,emotional and easily broken.
Just purely seeing from her Part, Is she wrong fully.
As seeing that from the scenes depicted and dialogues said,It shows she was the one who missed her mother so much,
so emotionally weak and all the times she expected a mother to be on her side. As she asked, all those non-askable ques and answerable by mom were missed by her.
Was that behavior out of Hurt wrong. she has more Hurt which comes as more hatred.

As we seen till now, she hasn't loved a fellow whose belong to someone else. It wasn't a mistake of her.
She loved one person and was given a promise that she will be engaged to him,
The situation ,halat changed after arjun came to India. Is there any fault of Ovi in this.

And some Points from my friends too:
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Ovi Prayed for him ,for his happiness,even though she doesnt know it, done it by learning from archu through phone.
she came even risking her Job , she could had been sued.Just for her love she came here putting all of hers at risk.
Does she seem wrong in all this.


Teju :

Teju tho is ,was and good forever. Her little hatred and angry talks were there.
arrey Teju bhi Human na. She should have had that. and Should have shown that.
Didn't feel her statements were wrong. she started her introspection just after one day only.
she is analysing things and soon she may get to the Bottom. Just after one day ,she could do these things and can behave decently to archu, accepted chai and doesnt talk back much. Then wasnt she a Good one By nature.
Wasn't her anger that day and the turmoil and feelings justified and Normal.
If only this introspection and analysing was there on archu side ,she would have grown and had all the pleasures till now. .


Ok, By saying this, for me this Girls behaviour character look real so far, though they may be Butchered in Upcoming epi's.
Do they Look bad , for me doesn't seem so. They may do something not fully right but understandable is what I felt.

Teju will be the first one But i would say,If only archu would have tried before, then Ovi would have been the Most favorable one for archu. Ovi had that capability ,she is close to her mother's emotional quotient. Both are emotionally weak and vulerable.

Wish to end it Saying that, oh at last they are ArMan Kids, will their Blood have such qualities.
Wouldn't it be good and ofcourse the inbulit,in born would be there.


Then a Few words on Sachin (a note from my friend too) :
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He is and Was wrong. "sachin is Doing Wrong, But He,Ovi and Teju are the the Most Tragic children as they were abandoned by their mother Archu".
He is wrong, doings were like that but as such ,Has he anytime back answered sulo (that day on phone or at their home) or even to archu has he crossed the limits in the way answered back.he remains a silent spectator. He sees archu and feels sometimes her sufferings too.
The parvarish ,the togetherness they(Archu and sachu) spent is still there in his memories. so what stops it,this separation , distance and abandon was the one created all that what they are made of.

The girls havent felt or tasted it.But this fellow felt the warmth and care of archu for years and then abandoned it. Is that what causes this rude behaviour.

So whom to Blame??😕. Definitely the elders and may be not the Kids.


I thought of leaving with the points on Kid, but old habit couldn't finish the essays without the Point on ArMan.(Shys..)

Ok, Now comes on my archu:
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Ok accept savita had a Hand in all these, thats different, a character that had made to have negative shade and negativity will have it.
But if thought,if fought, if determined, archu would have had her daughters with her and the family with her.
Its all were in archu's hands, but she left it without fighting. Now will the crying give back all that.

Yes being a old archu fan, when she cries for her daughters, wa put in a awkward position, I felt bad,oh a mother shouldn't get it .But she as a Mother asked for it, what to do.

When she feel good for her daughters, when she feels happy for her daughter, when she feels pleasure with them, when she is at ease being with her family ,I too feel Glad but the Point stays the same.

Even now she is doing the same. Doesnt wish to fight. Giving it all just for a lame reason saying for sachu's love.
Cant she get it all by being together with her family and making the needful for her absence.

Whose fault is all these. Who had put into all these, is it Own doings too??
Can it be rectified and reverse back???😕


Then Comes Manav:
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I really Pity this man..
How much ever he could do, How much ever He do, does, He will never get the credit or Praise from anyone. Not even from his family members 😕 .

Do good for Mom and daughters, do as they wish, Blamed and Bashed by others (Sulo and group),

Do good for archu -
Blamed and bashed by Savita and crew. all the place he gets Hit.

He tries to keep both the sides happy where he himself goes Unhappy Yet Punished.

He has did a Lot to archu and her Home 18yrs Back, what not he has taken for her and gone through for her .
and in these 18yrs he has done a lot to his mom and daughters but both find fault with this man.
Really Really Pity this man.



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LuvSSever thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok,Here I end my Post. Thanks for those who are going to read it or view it.😊
All the views and feedback with due respect are welcomed. 😳 😊.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Umi darling 🤗So good to see your analysis on Ovi-Tej and Deshmukh family...You have done fabulous and fair job being a die hard old Archu fan..Its not easy to be unbiased-Fair when you love a particular character...
You have given great description of the pain-hurt these kids felt and not because of their fault but the elders..Mother not fighting for her kids..And giving in so quickly w/o a fight..
I dont uderstand Archana character at all..I cant relate to her as a woman, wife, DIL and a mother at all...She is an Alien to me..There was a time during Initially where I liked her but very very short time. Her character became unrecognizable human being..Especially being married how do u let your family control u so much? One must grow up and accept marriage and learn to prioritize their love and loyalty. Doesn't mean u forget your own family...But Marriage and kids come first before your Mayka. SOrry to say this. Unless u r in abusive relationship...😳
Manav on the other hand I can feel and to many levels understand. He is given from all sides...Damn if he does and damn if he does not
No repentance or apologies from Archu on her 2 grave mistakes.. Taking him to court and giving Soham to psycho sister where he might be killed..These are very painful acts..One must admit, acknowledge and apologize for. Feel the pain they caused Manav and inturn herself.
I dont find anything Pavitra in ArMan's Rishta...its full and filled with hurt, pain, disrespect and betrayal IMHO..
And now due to that innocent kids are suffering.
Fabulous job Umi...Pls do visit and share your thoughts always...I love reading them and I value them..
Loads of love 🤗 From Varsha di...Hope u are doing well...
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@umayal
i totally agree..they hv reason to get angrybt abusing thr mother infront of everyone is nr right widout kwn the reason. whether archanaa is bad or gud, afterall archanaa is thr mother n alwys b...n we all hve seen Manv hd never told a word against Savita evethough he knw Savita is wrong sumtymes bt being his mother he still respect
Edited by Seema1987 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hai Seema 😊,

Thanks for the reply. I accept the fact on Manav and yes respect needs to given but it as to be earned too.
I got your point. Accept too.

Neither Savita nor Sulo was a Good one or perfect mother that a child needs. actually these two have never been a Good one to both their children.
Still Manav and Archu respect them, obey them more and Value them more than their own life.

Why???
Because Manav and archu have seen their mothers all through the time, Tough time, good time ,Bad time, all times taking care of their family in hers own perspective way. Taking care of them, Looking after them in their own way either good or bad.

They were together, nearby, so that respect is there and earned.

This is where in case of archu, it failed. The Girls haven't seen her, Haven't been with her,Haven't seen her taking care of them or their family. So from where the Initial softness or tender will come when they have not experienced any of it.
So this Initial Interrupts are there.

just now they came nearby and surely archu would earn it too by being nearby and ofcourse by doing the needful.

Thats why I find fault with elders, their grandparents, their mom for putting them in this situation and not on kids. Archu wouldn't have gone through this Dard or need not face all this if she has woken up earlier.

So wish to say that it takes sometime for the Girls and they are not bad by themselves. Situation they have put in and brought up is what makes them do.
Edited by umayal - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Umi darling🤗🤗….love your post and missed you sooo much🤗…loved your analysis of all Arman kid and to tell you the truth I have been an Archu fan myself a long time😃..can still remember how I debated for her in the forum…those were great times…

Your analysis of the kids abandoned by mom is soo potent…loved what you say about Ovi, so true…I can never find fault in her…a kid so understanding ready to do anything just for her love. In real life, a wife like her could be a treasure…so understanding, silently supporting loving without asking anything in return….how many woman can be like that…how many men will/could like to have a wife like her…if you ask me - everyone…She is also so emotionally vulnerable and hurt...

Rather, Teju's character sometimes I find hard to understand…but still look how she makes everyone her own…of course, must have been tough to grow up knowing a mom just left them without a fight…Sachu's character again in spot on…he does show pain through his eyes..a character, who's own mom gave him up, loved by Archu more than a 'real' mom and that mom too gave him away too, without a fight…how unwanted he must have felt growing up those teenage years…..my god can anyone imagine what he must have gone through….ArMan's kids were real ill-fated and were the most unfortunate kids…I pray to god that no kid should go through such a fate in real life…

About, Archu…I don't understand her anymore…god how I loved that character in the beginning, but slowly, the Cvs in their effort to show her a victim, have made her in-human and unrecognizable…she is beyond me; as a Mom, a wife, a daughter or even a sister…to me she fails in all counts….and Manav - you are right, either way he goes he will be criticized….no respite from criticism for this character…and Savita, of course, is the eternal villain, played with, by the Cvs at their conveniences., making her darker than the darkest night just to glorify other lead/supporting character….what the story PR has become…I, do lament whenever I watch these days…..

Umi dear🤗…it is great to see you here after ages….girl I missed you sooo…hope all is well with you dear…do miss reading your post too darling…take care dear..take care….🤗

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Posted: 13 years ago
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oh ummi u come like a breeze of fresh air on this forum🤗i dont know why so much of negativity when it comes to sachin ovi and teju .and i m sure archana will take purvi arjun side in future but how will archana tackel ovi teju ...i believe this will bring archana more close to her daughters but the way ovi character was shown she is very emotional person arjun is her weakness her feelings are sincere towards arjun .but savita silly tactics will create big blunder and ovi will eventually loose arjun is she will follow savita advices.

lastly hello to all old friends here.😛

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Loved this post! Wonderful analysis. Couldnt agree with a lot of negativity on Teju, Ovi and Sachu!

On the other hand Purvi has grown up with a mother's love and another good grandmother.

Whereas Teju and Ovi grew up with a busy dad and a wicked grandmother. How is this their fault?

Sachin is the saddest case for me. Poor thing loved Archu and in the end, had no clue why he was taken away from her. When he probably asked his aaji about it, she said he doesnt love you. Why would a 10 yr old not believe his grandmom?
Remember that scene when they were choosing wedding invitations and he called archana Aai by mistake? I could see the pain in his eyes when he went into the room. Where was this aai when he was growing up?

Archana isnt' at fault. After 18 years, she meets her kids that were forcefully taken away from her and they hate her. What can a mother do?

Manav is another sad soul. Im not sure why so many people HATE him here? I thought he was ALWAYS so supportive of Archana. He fought with his mother when Archana was pregnant with Soham. Was upset but still didnt say anything when Archana gave THEIR son away to a psycho sister who ended up getting their son killed (or not, we'll see). Archana dragged him to a court without knowing his predicament. HE got the 80 lakhs (0r 40 i forget) to save Sulo's house. He had NO IDEA his mother twisted the tale and made it seem like Archana didnt want the kids, just the money. And even TODAY she said, she wanted money. And he TRUSTS her enough to know she's lying. What more can a man do?


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Hi Varsha di, Kalapi di ,Taya and all.😊


Its good to meet you all again.
Just because of started watching it again and saw the last few epi's , as saying goes old habits die hard, wished to post something on PR and ARMAN.

seeing the Girls of ARMAN, it made me post something on ARMAN family, so there i go after a long time and posted it.

Thanks for the replies.


@Varsha di : Good to Hear from you.
Yes accept , archu was lovable but gone unrecognizable later. accept the fact on those two grave mistakes. It was indeed a Big one.

@Kalapi Di : Its good to see you here after a long time. Yes its been a Long time.
Your below statement was bang on. Totally agree.

"About, Archu''god how I loved that character in the beginning, but slowly, the Cvs in their effort to show her a victim, have made her in-human and unrecognizable"

In the process of showing her always as victim they made her look like what she was today.
All the fault of Cvs😡. they made a Gripping, good Natured character with good scope of development, into a spoilt one.

I too miss you all and feel good to post here after a long time. Hope you all are doing well. Take care.

Next time when, dont know. Hope to see you all soon.


Edited by umayal - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pip23



He had NO IDEA his mother twisted the tale and made it seem like Archana didnt want the kids, just the money. And even TODAY she said, she wanted money. And he TRUSTS her enough to know she's lying. What more can a man do?





Hi😊,

Yes, agree with you on the above quoted.One scene of today that had to be noticed.
Yes, He wasn't aware of what happened 18yrs before, behind his back.

He has two times voiced his side, that day at rain, he asked why she left him and girls 18yrs ago and now looking for them and even today he voiced out, I wished you had come but you havent.
which means twice he said that he was ready to go with her to Canada and in his Viewpoint it was archu who rejected that.

So, It was archu who haven't voiced any of her side till now, either about the Divorce papers shown by Savita or the condition laid forth by sachu. So it was she who is Keeping Mum on all those. Then how come manav will come to Know about this.

So even at this unaware situation, Though he thought she hasn't come back when he called,
He wishes to take the Blame and make ,set things right. On one thing that she should be there for them and be with them. Woh bhi insaan hai. so He want everything back to Normal, and ready to take blame if something good happens. If she doesnt wish then there is no use in taking the blame right, so He asked her.

But Ufff...This Archu na again went to the mode of foolishness and said I need Money.

But as you said ,even at this stage, "he TRUSTS her enough to know she's lying. What more can a man do?".

so totally agree with the Last Line of yours.

He still believes she cant be totally wrong as she portrayed to be or as she shows off or behaves to be. so He is in confused state and yet taking steps to make things clear. He is trying and doing things.


As said what more he can do?? 😕
Edited by umayal - 13 years ago

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