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Posted: 13 years ago

#71

art or commercial , it shldn't b boring n irrelevant. i agree tht potrayin an actor walking across th room for entire 5 minutes shld not b construd as art. it is simply dearth of ideas.

i enjoyd serious cinema like astitva, fire, earth, dhobi gaat.

one aspect tht stands out in art movies is tht there r sm moments which capture th nuance of th story in a very poignant way tht makes u think for smtime. in the movie fire, there is a scene where th old lady spits on shabana whn she finds out abt th lesbian truth. shabana serves ths bed ridden lady bathing her and cleaning her but whn she spits on shabana she realizes she was never appreciatd for wat does. IMO, tht moment encapsulated th movie's message which is not lesbiensm or relationships but how often does th service of a womaen goes unappreciated in her family.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTTVyoTdxDc&feature=relmfu[/YOUTUBE]

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LifeOLicious

@LifeOLicious

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Posted: 13 years ago

#72

well if you are going to make a distinction for me some commercial movies are extremely boring- especially movies with hamming comedy, action for no reason etc. boring is subjective.

most film critics love arty films because such movies connect emotionally on a deeper level if made well...it's not just a popcorn film...but critics also like popcorn films if made well...critics loved dabangg! i tend to think it is the job of the critics to highlight good films that most people won't care unless a famous critic talks about the film. if it were only upto audience i think we would only watch movies with stars and entertainment and never try to see a different kind of film (that we might end up liking!)

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Posted: 13 years ago

#73

I don't know about the term "Art " movies but any movie which lacks pace is boring.Few movies like Raincoat, Cooking with Stella are so slow that I can't wait for it to get over. Dhobi Ghat was the most boring art movie I saw recently. In 90s ,DD used to show some of the slowest movie ever possible. Damn it was boring.

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souro

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Posted: 13 years ago

#74

I agree with those saying that rather than seeing them as art films and commercial films, we should just see them as good films and bad films. Since good/ bad film is dependent on whether I enjoyed that movie or not, it might be further simplified into movies I liked and movies I didn't like, with levels of extent of liking within them.

One reason for not liking the so called art films might be because of the genre and how they treat the subject matter. As an example, I had heard about 'Ladri di biciclette' a lot from my teenage years. That it's an epoch making movie, has inspired many directors past and present and continues to do so. In fact it is said, that when Satyajit Ray went to Europe, he watched this movie and immediately decided that this is the way of film making that he wants to follow, that's how much impact this movie had on him.

Yet when I finally watched 'Ladri di biciclette', I couldn't sit through the whole movie. It's not because it was boring for me, although the storyline is very simple and minimalistic how boring can a movie be when it's only 90 mins in legnth. The reason is the depressing nature of the movie. Neo-realism as a genre for all it's positives also suffers from the crippling disadvantage of not being able to provide an outlet to the audience through which they can escape to some fantasy land. Forget fantasy, they won't be able to leave their real world even an inch behind them. And an overwhelming amount of neo-relistic movies actually deal with depression and despair as their subject matter. Those who are not so fond of watching depressing movies will obviously find them extremely torturous to sit through.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: souro
Those who are not so fond of watching depressing movies will obviously find them extremely torturous to sit through.

That's the main reason for dislike. Already life is going through such depressing moments, people expect 2 hours of entertainment to forget those -ve moments. Now if movie also shows same thing, how can anyone enjoy it?

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don12

@don12

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#76

I find art movies very interesting. Art movies are for niche market. Its not for masses.

For you Rohit Shetty might be the greatest director of all time but for people like me Satyajit Ray, Shyam Benegal, Akira Kurosawa, Gus Van Sant, Martin Scorese..etc etc...rules the roost.

I enjoy a Salman or Govinda movie as much as any well made Art movie.

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souro

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Posted: 13 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: don12
I find art movies very interesting. Art movies are for niche market. Its not for masses.

For you Rohit Shetty might be the greatest director of all time but for people like me Satyajit Ray, Shyam Benegal, Akira Kurosawa, Gus Van Sant, Martin Scorese..etc etc...rules the roost.

I enjoy a Salman or Govinda movie as much as any well made Art movie.

I have seen some of Satyajit Ray and Akira Kurosawa's movies. Not all of them are for niche market.

Satyajit Ray's movies Kapurush Mahapurush, Parashpathar, the Feluda movies, Goopy-Bagha movies, Agantuk, etc. can be enjoyed by a broad category of audience.

Similarly there is nothing niche about Sichinin no samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro, Tengoku to jigoku, Kumonosu-jo. The first three are action movies, fourth one suspense thriller based on which the Hindi movie Inkaar was made and the last one is an adaptation of Shakespeare's Macbeth.

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don12

@don12

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: souro

I have seen some of Satyajit Ray and Akira Kurosawa's movies. Not all of them are for niche market.

Satyajit Ray's movies Kapurush Mahapurush, Parashpathar, the Feluda movies, Goopy-Bagha movies, Agantuk, etc. can be enjoyed by a broad category of audience.

Similarly there is nothing niche about Sichinin no samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro, Tengoku to jigoku, Kumonosu-jo. The first three are action movies, fourth one suspense thriller based on which the Hindi movie Inkaar was made and the last one is an adaptation of Shakespeare's Macbeth.

Well even Martin Scorcese does not make Art movies all the time. I mentioned the above directors because they made some good art movies of their time.

I mean what exactly is an Art movie??? People think Art Movie = Depressing Movie which is completely wrong. Even a Samurai movie can be an Art movie. What about movie like Dancing with the Wolves?

Regarding Niche audience well i think Art movie does target film festivals but that does not stop them from making money at box office. So many Oscar movies do well at the box office.

I am not a big fan of Art Cinema but any movie which made well is appreciated by me. Be it Salman or Govinda movies or movies like Elephant or MullHolland Dr.

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Hetal

@ibelieveinpink

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Posted: 13 years ago

#79

Why people do gaga over it? B/c the majority of art films require you to think on an intellectual or emotional level like Water, Mr and Mrs Iyer, Chokher Bali, Raincoat, Earth, Arth, etc.

They may be boring to some, but I personally find films like Bodyguard, Ready, Singh is King, Dabanng, Ajab Prem KI Ghazab Kahani, etc. far less entertaining.

3 Idiots and Munnabhai series was a great exception of commercial cinema making one think--but I do want to say that not all commercial cinema is brainless and lazily written.

One last thing, I don't think Guzaarish was marketed as a art film, but more commercial cinema. Of course, I could be wrong.

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RandomSquared

@RandomSquared

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Posted: 13 years ago

#80

i dont know what art movies really means. i mena its raincoat and 15 park ave fall under that then i think i like those kinds of movies. its good be watch all kinds of movies. a movie shud have a good story, engaging characters and a good actors. personally i wus watch 15 park ave over a movie like ready anyday. i guess its a personal choice.

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