Is Nani ma really responsible for Toasty's health?

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abhilasha_dream

@abhilasha_dream

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Posted: 13 years ago

Today Chaturvedi was talking so roughly with Nani ma and blaming her for everything which was happening with Toasty... Was he correct ??

I feel that he was wrong in doing so... Everybody is telling that Nani ma did a wrong thing by scolding Toasty, but it was just Nanima's reaction... M sure the next day when Toasty would have talked to her calmly, things would have sorted down, there was no need to get so hurt by elder's words.

After all, no elder will pat ur head immediately, when u come and accept that u were lying to them till date, they would definitely be hurt and blame u for cheating them... Yes, eventually they would calm down and then praise u for being honest with them, but not that instant... Its human nature...

Chedilal's way of dealing was very wrong when he himself has wronged Toasty many times before and given her severe punishments than Nani ma...

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abc113

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Posted: 13 years ago

Sorry, I disagree with you. Nani ma deserved all the yelling she received from Toasty's mom and Pitaji. Both of them are brutally hurt and going through a very tough time, just the way you support nani ma getting angry at Toasty because she was in the moment, I boldly support Pitaji in saying all what he said to nani ma considering the situation he is in.

What nani ma told Toasty that night wasn't something that can be taken lightly, those were very harsh words and a very ugly reaction to something so trivial. I am glad nani ma is slowly coming to terms with reality, she definitely needs to repent.

As far as the original Q goes, I don't think nani ma is responsible for Toasty's coma condition. It was an accident and could have happened any time to any one. We don't even know if Toasty had left the house because she was mad at nani ma. She might have gone to pick milk from the nearby shop and on the way met with this accident. Anyways she had not slept properly the night before so was probably a bit disoriented.

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megustajalebi

@megustajalebi

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: abhilasha_dream
Today Chaturvedi was talking so roughly with Nani ma and blaming her for everything which was happening with Toasty... Was he correct ??

I feel that he was wrong in doing so... Everybody is telling that Nani ma did a wrong thing by scolding Toasty, but it was just Nanima's reaction... M sure the next day when Toasty would have talked to her calmly, things would have sorted down, there was no need to get so hurt by elder's words.

After all, no elder will pat ur head immediately, when u come and accept that u were lying to them till date, they would definitely be hurt and blame u for cheating them... Yes, eventually they would calm down and then praise u for being honest with them, but not that instant... Its human nature...

Chedilal's way of dealing was very wrong when he himself has wronged Toasty many times before and given her severe punishments than Nani ma...

I agree. Nani ma should be told that she was harsh with Toasty in yelling at her like that, but an eye for an eye makes the world go blind, so the yelling and finger pointing is useless. Chedi should not have yelled at his MOTHER IN LAW. I mean, c'mon, show some respect. She had every right to be upset and she acknowledged that she may have overdone it. No one expected Toasty to leave the house w/out informing anyone and then getting in an accident.

Chedi always makes me mad. I wish he would keep his mouth shut and let his father run things.

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

A lot of blame has been heaped on Nani Ma, but I don't think she was entirely at fault. Yes, she was harsh in her treatment and the punishment she gave, but she was not wrong in giving punishment.

What exactly was Toasty planning to achieve by confessing? That Nani a should give her another award? When someone confesses to a mistake, they should be prepared for the punishment. The quantum of punishment is in the hands of the judge, not the guilty party.

Secondly what was all that drama about "Main jhooth nahi bol sakti". Either she should've told Nani that Malti is allergic to the Kada or kept her mouth shut about not giving it. Similarly, either she should've told Nani immediately or even in the clinic that she could not complete all the chores at home, or kept shut afterwards. This is like heads I win, Tails you lose.

The old woman did not ask to come to this house. She was brought here after much persuasion for selfish reasons. She was given to understand that she would have complete run of the house, not just about Malti. So when it came to Malti's health, it was wrong to keep things from her. Who knows tomorrow she might have given Malti one of the ingredients that go in the Kada and caused an allergic reaction unwittingly. Or when she gave a decision regarding Nitika, it should not have been questioned. She would obviously have seen Toasty as someone who is undermining her authority in the house.

Again I'm not saying that Nani is absolutely right. The way she spoke and the punishment she gave was one that was calculated to hurt Toasty at her weakest points. But Toasty is not entirely blame-free in this fiasco.

Coming to the original question. Chhedi is entirely in the wrong for blaming Nani Ma the way he is. No one can be held responsible for an accident. It is almost like saying that Nani wanted to kill Toasty. There can be heated words, but to pounce on her again and again and to demean her this way is very wrong. But Chedi has always done that, till now his scapegoat was Toasty and now it is Nani.

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Cool_Ishu

@Cool_Ishu

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Posted: 13 years ago

I'll blame Toasty only for all the scolding she got from Nani Ma. Go back and check her confession. She never mentioned that Malti was getting sick by drinking kada. she never said doctor asked her to stop giving kada. she never said that malti doesn't like kada. She also didn't mention that she never asked for help. Family members completed the work before she reached home and she never got chance to try to complete those tasks. The way she confessed was like come on nani ma scold me. Nani observes things but she is not god to know everything even if no one is telling her. If Toasty had explained the situation properly then nani's reaction would have been different. Nani might have still got angry but probably then she wudn't have scolded Toasty only. So no Nani is not responsible for toasty's condition.

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Aishwarya

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Posted: 13 years ago

Wait? Is this discussion about whether Nani Maa was justified in her scolding of Toasty or of whether she is responsible for Toasty's accident? For both I answer no.

Nani did step over the limit. As Chedi pointed out, the very scriptures she reveres subscribe forgiveness over harsh punishments. And in this matter, the punishments weren't even deserved. And even if she didn't know the full story, but only what Toasty told her, she should have waited to hear all parts before banning her from the kitchen or removing her from the status of a bahu.

But she isn't responsible for the accident. From the 300 episodes that we've watched, it's easy to discern that Toasty is not the type of person who takes these kinds of things to heart nor the type to hold grudges. She might have been hurt by Nani's words, but she wouldn't have left the house because of them. There definitely was another reason as to why she left, and hence, Nani's not responsible.

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megustajalebi

@megustajalebi

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Chitrashi
A lot of blame has been heaped on Nani Ma, but I don't think she was entirely at fault. Yes, she was harsh in her treatment and the punishment she gave, but she was not wrong in giving punishment.

What exactly was Toasty planning to achieve by confessing? That Nani a should give her another award? When someone confesses to a mistake, they should be prepared for the punishment. The quantum of punishment is in the hands of the judge, not the guilty party.

Secondly what was all that drama about "Main jhooth nahi bol sakti". Either she should've told Nani that Malti is allergic to the Kada or kept her mouth shut about not giving it. Similarly, either she should've told Nani immediately or even in the clinic that she could not complete all the chores at home, or kept shut afterwards. This is like heads I win, Tails you lose.

The old woman did not ask to come to this house. She was brought here after much persuasion for selfish reasons. She was given to understand that she would have complete run of the house, not just about Malti. So when it came to Malti's health, it was wrong to keep things from her. Who knows tomorrow she might have given Malti one of the ingredients that go in the Kada and caused an allergic reaction unwittingly. Or when she gave a decision regarding Nitika, it should not have been questioned. She would obviously have seen Toasty as someone who is undermining her authority in the house.

Again I'm not saying that Nani is absolutely right. The way she spoke and the punishment she gave was one that was calculated to hurt Toasty at her weakest points. But Toasty is not entirely blame-free in this fiasco.

Coming to the original question. Chhedi is entirely in the wrong for blaming Nani Ma the way he is. No one can be held responsible for an accident. It is almost like saying that Nani wanted to kill Toasty. There can be heated words, but to pounce on her again and again and to demean her this way is very wrong. But Chedi has always done that, till now his scapegoat was Toasty and now it is Nani.

Agreed.

I don't understand so much excessive bashing towards Nani. She is strict but has good intentions and is much better than other characters that have been on this show. Then again, there could be extreme Toasty fans.

Good for Toasty for admitting the truth. However it was no surprise to anyone that Nani would get extremely upset and yell at her. Would Chedi or any other elder do anything different if they found out one of their children was lying to them? Toasty or anyone else could have brought the doctor to the house and had her talk to Nani if Nani was adamant. Instead, she lied and even stopped Malti from talking to Nani about the kada problem.

First Chedi attacked Toasty, then Ved and Nitika, and now it's Nani. I really cannot stand him.

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.PerfectLove.

@.PerfectLove.

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Posted: 13 years ago

what i will say about this🤔

nani maa was completely wrong in scolding toasty for absolutely NO reason😕 toasty did tell her the truth and she was honest.. nani maa should have just be more calm and asks her why and all? but nani maa..wants to apply rules.. she needs to do it in a proper manner.. she wants to show that she is the one who commands😕 that's not good..

as far the accident is concerned..😕😭 hmm.. I would say no.. because Toasty is not the kind that she will leave the house because elders scolded her.. she may have felt sad and the truth that she was now banned from the kitchen(where she spends the time most) has made her more uncomfortable😭😭 so it's not nani maa's fault.. in this..

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IshaMish

@IshaMish

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Posted: 13 years ago

Yes it is true that nani ma is not responsible for her accident. It could happen anytime, anywhere if it had to..

but yes nani was too harsh with toasty in giving the punishment... toasty said .. give me any punishment, any work... I am ready to do.. but nani scolded like anything.. if you saw the episode.. she was yelling so badly.. she took her bahu status away.. her authority to cal her nani away.. her right to cook for her family away.. and believe me guys look at the episode..

and on very first day toasty tried to explain nani that malti had puked after having kadha.. but she didnt understand and say.. kuch ladies ko shuru shuru me hota hai.. tumhe dena hi hai use kadha.. she never said.. ki acha ek din aur observe karte hai.. probably it is not suiting her.. aisa kaha hota pyar se to toasty kya malti ne khud hi bata diya hota ki nani kadha suit nahi kar raha..

par unhone kisi ko bhi bolne ka mauka hi nahi diya.. chahe khana dubara banana ho ya nitika ka extremely urgent presentation ho.. did she understand ki nitika ka ofc jana jaroori tha us din.. due to her prior work commitments. understanding hoti to kehti chalo aj chali jao ofc.. aur leave ke liye apply kar dena.. whatever..

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Luv4games

@Luv4games

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: abc113
Sorry, I disagree with you. Nani ma deserved all the yelling she received from Toasty's mom and Pitaji. Both of them are brutally hurt and going through a very tough time, just the way you support nani ma getting angry at Toasty because she was in the moment, I boldly support Pitaji in saying all what he said to nani ma considering the situation he is in.

What nani ma told Toasty that night wasn't something that can be taken lightly, those were very harsh words and a very ugly reaction to something so trivial. I am glad nani ma is slowly coming to terms with reality, she definitely needs to repent.

As far as the original Q goes, I don't think nani ma is responsible for Toasty's coma condition. It was an accident and could have happened any time to any one. We don't even know if Toasty had left the house because she was mad at nani ma. She might have gone to pick milk from the nearby shop and on the way met with this accident. Anyways she had not slept properly the night before so was probably a bit disoriented.

It was not Nanni Maa's fault.. all she wanted to do was, Nitika help Toasty with house work, even if she goes to work.. Nothing is wrong with this...

And Toasty who acted as Chatrs mom, lied to naani maa about that tasteless kaarra. why did she she could have just said it in her face that malti can't eat it period.

She was also helped during the challenge, and she lied about that tooo...

IF Naani Maa is wrong for yelling at Toasty then from toromorow, Every married woman india or other countries should runaway from thiier house and kill themselves...

If your mother says something wrong to you, what will you do, let her to calm down and talk to her or runaway and kill your self.