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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I have been dying to see a discussion of this sort here.

@Opti: I loved all of your clearly laid out arguments and I completely agree for the most part. However, contrary to the idea that Sandhya is being inconsiderate in insensitive now, I think this outburst was the first sign she showed of actually being considerate to Suraj's feelings and expectations.

Up until this harrowing reality check, this whole marriage and the challenges laid out for Sandhya in its context were about her. She was the great martyr who had sacrificed for her brother's dreams and she sort of made a tragic heroine of herself in this whole story. Any help she got from Suraj, I felt like she took for granted, considered it her due for having to suffer the trial that she did. And lucky for her, Suraj was mature enough to stand by her during this test of her integrity and her upbringing without any expectations. And while she may have helped him and his family, it was not really because she loved them but because she was on a mission to prove herself but at some point she lost sight of what she was proving. She had made a nest of denial and self-pity and was operating from within its confines

So up until the cripplingly humiliating incident with Bhabho, I think Sandhya hadn't really taken a moment to consider the expectations Suraj may have had from this relationship. For the first time in her life, the story snapped out of perspective and no longer revolved around her, exclusively. She was given an ugly reality check that this marriage wasn't only about her sacrifice, it was about Suraj's dreams as well and for the first time she realises how much she has fallen short of fulfilling them, at least according to Bhabo's definition.

This is further emphasised by the relationship she sees between Kirti and her husband where she gets to see how far away Suraj and her are from a normal marital relationship of the nature that Suraj must have expected before marriage. Also their interactions are now coloured by Bhabho's tasteless remarks so Suraj's touch must be even more difficult for Sandhya and she realises how difficult this is for her when it is so simple for him.

For the first time she realises that her emtpy actions of being a wife, bahu and SIL may not be enough as Suraj deserves the sincere intention behind them. So actually I think here for she is seeing him as an equal for the first time. Rather than a vehicle for her own tragic narrative she sees him as an individual with his own dreams and herself, an obstacle in his way, which is why she tells him the blatant truth and gives him the option of being freed from this relationship.

Once again Suraj is thankfully far more mature than her and understands the undertones of the outburst rather than the literal words. While Sandhya may have been carrying out her duties as a member of the household like a zombie, she has also been unconsciously growing close to Suraj in casual, unstudied interactions that she does not give much weight to. But he has been collecting them like little beads and has carefully strung them together to be able to present to Sandhya the reality of their relationship with such clarity. He makes her realise that while they are far from a "normal" pati-patni relationship, it can't be said that there is no relationship at all.

And we can see how well she has understood this message when she is able to repeat it to Preeti the next day. What was established through this episodic was that there is a definite relationship between the Sandhya and Suraj. But the relevant question Preeti raised: is this relationship alone enough for Sandhya to live the rest of her life on?

Sorry, this got much longer than I intended but I have been dying to comment on the issue. 😊

although this post is not a reply to mine ... i do have to say something here. i dont think bhabho's opinion matters at all as to what a normal hubby wifey relp is.she is sick and selfish ... she just wants a superficial physical relationship to get an heir . as for all the normal hubby wifey relps in the show ... vikram meena, kriti and kunwar sa also bhabho and baba saa ... sraj's and sandhya's is wayyy above all. i wud categorise their relationship as something far more unique amnd pure. and actually im disturbed bythe fact that poor sandhya is being made to feel small since she is unable to get intimate with suraj. she is a true soulmate and i dont think the mental block she is having is just suraj's education. it is the entire atmosphere of the rathi madhouse. also if suraj ds not have any problems with sandhya and her choices ... why shud we have? to some love is something much more than physical things. and just becuase she had an outburst ds not rule out the future.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I have been dying to see a discussion of this sort here.

@Opti: I loved all of your clearly laid out arguments and I completely agree for the most part. However, contrary to the idea that Sandhya is being inconsiderate in insensitive now, I think this outburst was the first sign she showed of actually being considerate to Suraj's feelings and expectations.

Up until this harrowing reality check, this whole marriage and the challenges laid out for Sandhya in its context were about her. She was the great martyr who had sacrificed for her brother's dreams and she sort of made a tragic heroine of herself in this whole story. Any help she got from Suraj, I felt like she took for granted, considered it her due for having to suffer the trial that she did. And lucky for her, Suraj was mature enough to stand by her during this test of her integrity and her upbringing without any expectations. And while she may have helped him and his family, it was not really because she loved them but because she was on a mission to prove herself but at some point she lost sight of what she was proving. She had made a nest of denial and self-pity and was operating from within its confines

So up until the cripplingly humiliating incident with Bhabho, I think Sandhya hadn't really taken a moment to consider the expectations Suraj may have had from this relationship. For the first time in her life, the story snapped out of perspective and no longer revolved around her, exclusively. She was given an ugly reality check that this marriage wasn't only about her sacrifice, it was about Suraj's dreams as well and for the first time she realises how much she has fallen short of fulfilling them, at least according to Bhabo's definition.

This is further emphasised by the relationship she sees between Kirti and her husband where she gets to see how far away Suraj and her are from a normal marital relationship of the nature that Suraj must have expected before marriage. Also their interactions are now coloured by Bhabho's tasteless remarks so Suraj's touch must be even more difficult for Sandhya and she realises how difficult this is for her when it is so simple for him.

For the first time she realises that her emtpy actions of being a wife, bahu and SIL may not be enough as Suraj deserves the sincere intention behind them. So actually I think here for she is seeing him as an equal for the first time. Rather than a vehicle for her own tragic narrative she sees him as an individual with his own dreams and herself, an obstacle in his way, which is why she tells him the blatant truth and gives him the option of being freed from this relationship.

Once again Suraj is thankfully far more mature than her and understands the undertones of the outburst rather than the literal words. While Sandhya may have been carrying out her duties as a member of the household like a zombie, she has also been unconsciously growing close to Suraj in casual, unstudied interactions that she does not give much weight to. But he has been collecting them like little beads and has carefully strung them together to be able to present to Sandhya the reality of their relationship with such clarity. He makes her realise that while they are far from a "normal" pati-patni relationship, it can't be said that there is no relationship at all.

And we can see how well she has understood this message when she is able to repeat it to Preeti the next day. What was established through this episodic was that there is a definite relationship between the Sandhya and Suraj. But the relevant question Preeti raised: is this relationship alone enough for Sandhya to live the rest of her life on?

Sorry, this got much longer than I intended but I have been dying to comment on the issue. 😊

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Like your post very much.
@all: Nice and interesting discussion. Enjoyed reading all the posts and both POVs 😊 but I am always biased towards Sandy.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43

Intresting discussions are going here.

Yeah Sandy dnt intimated bcoz she was crushed by his brother. and still gettng crushed by his sick Family and moreover she saw her Close friend in him. She is in Love dint realised she put those actions from her Heart. I dont Feel Sandy is wrong in any moment for not intimating .

Frustration ? Wont we get Frustrated if our MIL makes a newly wed couple bedroom matters in open.

U Jst leave her she will get all those Feelings slowly bcoz she nw discoverd her soulmate in him.

I like suraj a Good Natured Person, but am Favour to Sandhya.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#44
@Samanalysre very well written post absolutely loved how you explained about Sandhya. Initially I was not really Sandhya fan but after reading some of the post here in IF I feel I now have got to know Sandhya a bit better and I am now her fan too regardless of what she is going through she will come out strong and her relationship with Suraj will blossom.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Up until this harrowing reality check, this whole marriage and the challenges laid out for Sandhya in its context were about her. She was the great martyr who had sacrificed for her brother's dreams and she sort of made a tragic heroine of herself in this whole story. Any help she got from Suraj, I felt like she took for granted, considered it her due for having to suffer the trial that she did. And lucky for her, Suraj was mature enough to stand by her during this test of her integrity and her upbringing without any expectations. And while she may have helped him and his family, it was not really because she loved them but because she was on a mission to prove herself but at some point she lost sight of what she was proving. She had made a nest of denial and self-pity and was operating from within its confines

So up until the cripplingly humiliating incident with Bhabho, I think Sandhya hadn't really taken a moment to consider the expectations Suraj may have had from this relationship. For the first time in her life, the story snapped out of perspective and no longer revolved around her, exclusively. She was given an ugly reality check that this marriage wasn't only about her sacrifice, it was about Suraj's dreams as well and for the first time she realises how much she has fallen short of fulfilling them, at least according to Bhabo's definition.


For the first time she realises that her emtpy actions of being a wife, bahu and SIL may not be enough as Suraj deserves the sincere intention behind them. So actually I think here for she is seeing him as an equal for the first time. Rather than a vehicle for her own tragic narrative she sees him as an individual with his own dreams and herself, an obstacle in his way, which is why she tells him the blatant truth and gives him the option of being freed from this relationship.

Brilliant analysis, especially the above. πŸ‘πŸΌ
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Posted: 13 years ago
#46
no body is bashing sandhya...but definitely upset with her...the expectations frm sooraj r bhabho r normal & implied 4r a marital life...but sandhya's is something diff...which she shud ve discussed b4r marriage...she dint do it...it's her fault...and accepted 4r marriage though dint like...it's another fault...she compromised...but has to fully compromise as she doesnt ve any right to spoil other's life... that too a sweeet person like sooraj...n they way she said on friday's episode...it was really rude and sooraj doesnt deserve it...many pple say it was her honest 7 truthful reply...but let me ask one question to all these ppl...

let's consider sandhya as educated but dint ve any aspirations in life and get married normally to sooraj and he is educated with ambitions in life...he wasnt interested in marriage but got married due to his parents' compulsion...and as sandhya is behaving with sooraj now...let's say sooraj also behaved with sandhya in the same way without showing any int in her and she luvs him to the core...& one fine night...as sandhya said now...he says not to expect anything frm him and take the decision of whether staying with him r leave him...

wat wud be ur opionion in dat situation...ll all the ppl who support sandhya now say the same thing dat sooraj told her everything honestly and truthfully...werent u called him rude and an irresponsible person...and many other awards wud ve been given to him...

in this 21st century all the women community claim dat woman is equal to man...then show self sympathy...

if the same were uttered by sooraj and if it was rude and wrong on his part...samething applies to sandhya also...lets be impartial in this issue...as sooraj is a person who given imp to relationships and emotions and who cant take relationships lightly...

but dont know wat CV of DABH plans are...though the concept of this story is nice...approach cranky...where only husbands luvs his wife to the core...but wife shows least in him...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#47
no body is bashing sandhya...but definitely upset with her...the expectations frm sooraj r bhabho r normal & implied 4r a marital life...but sandhya's is something diff...which she shud ve discussed b4r marriage...she dint do it...it's her fault...and accepted 4r marriage though dint like...it's another fault...she compromised...but has to fully compromise as she doesnt ve any right to spoil other's life... that too a sweeet person like sooraj...n they way she said on friday's episode...it was really rude and sooraj doesnt deserve it...many pple say it was her honest 7 truthful reply...but let me ask one question to all these ppl...

let's consider sandhya as educated but dint ve any aspirations in life and get married normally to sooraj and he is educated with ambitions in life...he wasnt interested in marriage but got married due to his parents' compulsion...and as sandhya is behaving with sooraj now...let's say sooraj also behaved with sandhya in the same way without showing any int in her and she luvs him to the core...& one fine night...as sandhya said now...he says not to expect anything frm him and take the decision of whether staying with him r leave him...

wat wud be ur opionion in dat situation...ll all the ppl who support sandhya now say the same thing dat sooraj told her everything honestly and truthfully...werent u called him rude and an irresponsible person...and many other awards wud ve been given to him...

in this 21st century all the women community claim dat woman is equal to man...then show self sympathy...

if the same were uttered by sooraj and if it was rude and wrong on his part...samething applies to sandhya also...lets be impartial in this issue...as sooraj is a person who given imp to relationships and emotions and who cant take relationships lightly...

but dont know wat CV of DABH plans are...though the concept of this story is nice...approach cranky...where only husbands luvs his wife to the core...but wife shows least in him...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48
I agree that as a wife, Sandhya too has a voice in the marriage. What bothers me is that she doesn't reciprocate the emotional feelings to Suraj. If she respects her husband, then why can't she take care of him as he does emotionally like knowing his likes/dislikes, buying him gifts, etc. It seems the only time she smiles is when Suraj repeats or praises her social issues otherwise for all other praises, she gives constipated looks. This is selfish.

Even while on the bike ride, when she didn't put her hand on Suraj's shoulder thinking about her IPS dream, that was selfish for me. Just because you put your hand over the driver's shoulder does not mean you are being physical. C'mon now! If Suraj can wear the helmet for safety, I think she can put her hand for safety too. Stopping yourself to not get close to a person for your own dreams is selfish.

Down the road, I just hope she realizes her love or gets close to Suraj before the whole IPS truth comes out, because then it would seem that she only started 'loving' Suraj because he started supporting her IPS dream (which I am sure he will).
Edited by julyprincess - 13 years ago

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