Dumbledore is Not Dead

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Hello fellas! Well, I know, reading the topic you will think OH NO! Another dumb head (no offense)! Can't they just lay the topic off, its getting on my nerves!

Well actually, I was really getting frustrated by all the people still talking if Dumbledore was dead or not. Well...the correct answer can be given to us by nobody but Rowling, and I suppose we will have to wait until July 2007, for the seventh book. Well, yeah...but we can console ourselves by taking a look at all the clues which Rowling has left behind. Well, I, myself was on the book store where Rowling was signing and giving copies, and believe it or not, I had booked a copy about a month ago. So, at midnight, 16th July'2005, I was on the bookstore, literally trembling as I took my copy of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Reading it quickly, I went to my cousin, who told me to check out this website (www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com). Well, I got really excited that I might find some good clues over there, and really, it helped me console so much, that I actually slept that night without thinking about Dumbledore or Harry...which I had not been able to do for a long time.

So, now I wanted you all to take a look at this site, which, I believe almost every member must have seen, but those who have not, will hopefully have no more queries requiring Dumbledore (R.I.P). So, anyways, here is the site below, almost word to word and skipping the boring parts. Hope I helped the ones who did not know about it.

PAGE NUMBERS IN (US/UK) order.

1. Dumbledore's Big Chill

Harry and Dumbledore are up on the tower beneath the Dark Mark. Harry is wearing his invisibility cloak, Dumbledore ordered him to put it on, before they mounted their brooms to ride to the top of the tower. Harry hears footsteps and looks around, but dumbledore orders him with the a gesture, to retreat. Harry draws his wand and backs away.

The door burst open and somebody erupted from it and shouted, "Expelliarmus!" Harry's body became instantly rigid and immobile, and he felt himself fall back against the tower wall, propped like an unsteady statue, unable to move or speak. (HBP pg 584/545)

It is interesting to note that things are happening so fast, even Harry is momentarily confused.

He could not understand how it happened -- Expelliarmus was not a Freezing Charm. Then, by the light of the Mark, he saw Dumbledore's wand flying in an arc over the edge of the ramparts and understood...Dumbledore had wordlessly immobilized Harry, and the second he had taken to perform this spell had cost him the chance of defending himself. (HBP pg 584/545)

Why did Dumbledore freeze Harry? Harry was already invisible to his attackers and in no danger.

The only explanation could be that Dumbledore already knew, had already planned that he would die this night (or appear to die), and not only did he not want Harry to become involved and possibly be injured himself, he needed Harry to be a witness, and to be able to tell everyone what had happened.

Dumbledore might have also promised Snape that he would make sure that Harry may not be able to interfere, knowing how Harry feels about Snape and knowing what Snape was about to have to do.

The supposition that it was Dumbledore's plan to do this all along is supported by the fact that he acted so quickly to do it, almost without thinking, when Draco burst in on the scene.

Harry's own assumption that the Freezing Charm was done by Dumbledore is supported by the fact that the charm lifted when Dumbledore left the tower minutes later.

2. Lets All Play Dead Together

While Dumbledore is trying to talk Draco out of killing him, Dumbledore proposes an interesting way out for Draco.

"I can help you Draco" "No you can't," said Malfoy, his wand shaking very badly indeed. "Nobody can. He told me to do it or he'd kill me. I've got no choice." "He cannot kill you if you're already dead. Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine." (HBP pg 591/552)

Dumbledore then offers to expand his mother in the protection, and even Lucius when he gets out of Azkaban.

This is very interesting, isn't it? Draco doesn't take him up on it, but Dumbledore is saying that he has ways that he could make it appear that Draco died when he really didn't. Doesn't this sound like exactly what we suspect Dumbledore has planned for himself?

The clue in Half-Blood Prince is especially interesting when placed next to another passage written much earlier. In the introducation to Quidditch Through the Ages, which was released between Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix, J.K writes as Dumbledore:

She[Madam Pince] suggested several alternatives, such as telling the people from Comic Relief U.K, that the library had burned down, or simply pretending that I had dropped dead without leaving instuctions." (QttA pg viii)

Not only does J.K mention fire in this passage (see clue #9 below), she also very clearly describes Dumbledore himself suggesting faking his own death. Again, exactly what we suspect Dumbledore did at the end of HBP.

IMPORTANT REVELATION!
UK Edition missing important text!

The UK edition of Half-Blood Prince is missing some text that is included in the American edition, and it's text that is very important to this clue!

This is the text as it appears in the UK edition.

"He told me to do it or he'll kill me. I've got no choice." "Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine. What is more, I can send members of the Order tonight to hide her likewise. Your father is safe at the moment at Azkaban...when the time comes, we can protect him too...come over to the right side, Draco...you're not a killer." Malfoy stared at Dumbledore...(HBP UK edition pg 552)

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TO BE CONTINUED!!!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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thts a gr8 relief to read tht....thanx 4 posting....
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Posted: 19 years ago
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This topic is cropping up too often don't u think?

Deepa just posted that, and I suggested the link to her...

Anyway, thanx for condensing it!

-Sam 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
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yah
ive visited the site again and again since it was mentioned abt 1 month back ,in one of the google alerts abt hp,which i get daily
lol
but despite all these assurances,some how i feel that jk's killed dumbledore just to enable hp take on voldemort on his own,finally and without anyones(read dumbledores) expertise.
other wise there would have been no use of telling hp everythin abt voldy.
also if hes alive at all,he may come in last
thats my assumption,
Edited by deepa_jd - 19 years ago
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Yeah, I feel she's killed him to show, that Harry is not useless without Dumbledore

-Sam 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
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i nknow yaar i dont want him to de bead either yaar
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Well....believe it or not.....I hv been reading this particular set of hints n clues abt Dumbledore on all HP sites.

But I read this a year back....some1 had mailed it 2 me 😉

I think that she's killed him off to show that death is not choosy and can hit even the best of ppl n also coz....now with Dumbledore dead....JKR can now show Harry as coming out on his own....finally he has 2 find the Horcruxes n at last kill Voldemort all on his own with no dumbleodre n only Ron-Hermione to help him!

So much 4 lone hero eh? 😉

But I miss Dumbledore sooooo much!!!!!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Lol that website my cousin just told me yesterday about it dumboledoreisnotdead.com LOL 😆
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Lol that website my cousin just told me yesterday about it dumboledoreisnotdead.com LOL 😆
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Guys...guys! The thing is, why I actually posted this, was that ppl were so often bringing up this topic, so to kinda clear their queries once and for all.

ONE MORE THING: I think that Dumbledore is not dead at all. And what we suspect...as in {pretending} to be can join in with the theory that he wants Harry to operate alone (or atleast Rowling does). So, if Dumbledore wants Harry to fight Voldemort ALONE, maybe he planned this. But again, this endless theory reaches nothing but more hope in the readers mind.

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