My Problem With Uday (healthy debate)

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CanadianAddict

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Posted: 13 years ago

#21

Alright, I get it is a show, but what your support is reflective of what you believe in SOME cases.

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CanadianAddict

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Posted: 13 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: reeha...k
Hi CanadianAddict: First off welcome to the DEK forum; I'm a fellow Canadian as well.

I'm going to just interpret my thought, as I'm one of the DEK forum Addicts around here and try to be objective as possible; so bear with me.

RESERVED. 😊

Thanks! Look forward to hearing from you 😊

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Jaded

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Posted: 13 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: CanadianAddict
Hello all you lovely forum people,

First off let me say I have not been watching this show from the beginning as I found the acting from the girl main lead to be poor and a bit annoying (not the actress herself but her characters portrayal.) Just to state, I did go back and watch the episodes! I meant I was not on the forum since the beginning.

I also realize that many people in this forum age range from 13-16, and hence more easily inclined to hold a star in a good light. My problem with Udayveer is not that he is a mean, nasty person because I also recognize he has grey shades. But as a staunch feminist I find it appalling reading young girls comment on how his attitude and actions against others are justified simply because he is good looking?

I just hope that a lot of this doesn't translate over to your real lives. I have worked in an abuse centre and him beating up Akash (no matter how ugly to some people Akash may be) is not OK! If the lead was not as good looking, then I doubt half of you would support Uday.

The type of personality he has shown us is traits found in abusers. I also find it ridiculous how people continue to call Akash ugly, that is so superficial.

I thought nothing could shock me about gender relations because I am currently doing my phD in it, but it still does. 😭 I am actually very hurt as a feminist.

Hello

My two cents for what its worth...

I completely agree with you about UV and his chauvinistic caveman attitude...He does have a problem...thats potential for character development...do I agree and condone his behavior?...absolutely not...I would like to give him a shock treatment for all his testosterone overdose...@.@

Why I like him:

I wont argue with you about that he is not pretty looking or anything...it is the truth...he is an eyecandy. But the sole reason I love his character is because how Smart and Intelligent he is...He is cunning, He is calculative and Manipulative...Yet he is smarter then all the other characters combined (DS excluded) he is cold and he is ruthless...and most of all he is human...I like him because he is no wimp who is gonna be hurt over a girl rejecting him and cry in a corner...He has the guts to face this adversity and make her his...means dont count only the end...and honestly I am tired of watching Heroes or characters on Indian TV who are extremely mindless and weak...UV is a different brand altogether in that sense...he feels, he hurts but, excluding todays epi, he has never let his emotions run ahead of him...Lastly I love the potential his character has for evolution, for change...his character development would be really interesting to watch...Similarly I like Manyata...she is no doormat...she is equally manipulative and cunning as him...she is a little selfish and self-centered just like him...but she is such breath of fresh air in the era of all sacrificing TV bahus or main leads...I just get a high watching her be a normal girl with half a brain that she is not easily fooled by emotional black mail and does what she thinks is right. I like them together because of the similarities and difference within their personalities...The clash of EGOs and the brain usage in all this war/progression of story is whats interesting about their pairing.

Why I am not interested in Akash:

He is just the same old Soap a hero...very unidimensional, the only time he is interesting is when he is confronting Uday otherwise his character seems like I have seen it millions of times...pick up any soap on any other channel and compare the characteristic of the hero...its the same mold...so i find him boring...

P.S. Uday knows how evil and charming he is and he works it so well...i love that about a person or a character, when they know there best weapon and how to use it 😃

EDIT: about societal roles and gender issues being portrayed in a negative sense...sadly thats not just TV its all around us...this partiality is happening to us women from the day we are born...ask any kid in kindergarten about what are girls supposed to do and what are boys supposed to do...Infact I conducted a study for my grad class on the very same issue, and you will have specific gender role oriented answers... these biases start and grow at home at our regular environment...TV is just romanticizing the bias against women...but its not the root cause...neither will stopping the content shown on TV can change anything...its the women themselves whose mentality have to change...who have to know that its their right to be happy and think about their own individuality before anyone else.

Case in point: how many Woman see M's character as loud and obnoxious and uncaring and selfish towards her own family?? yet they overlook that the girl is going through a psychological trauma and Identity crisis...she is a girl and girls are not supposed to behave the way M behaves...and I am not blaming anyone for thinking that...because M is annoying at her best...but that is an example of how deeply rooted sexism already is in our systems...a mere indian soap is not going to have much impact against years and years of classical conditioning

Edited by sinistera - 13 years ago

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Wrackspurt

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Posted: 13 years ago

#24

Nice topic to debate...though i dont fall in the age bracket that you mentioned...I am way past teenage 😆...but still I would like to put forward my view about the matter...when I initially started watching the show it was only because the concept looked interesting...the first time I saw Moniya and Akash bonding, falling in love...seriously i did not mind at all...it did not matter to me how Akash looked like...I just enjoyed the show...in the meantime they have also shown Uday...hmm..I liked what I saw...the cool, cunning, manupulative guy...as far as a story is concerned he was the perfect Anti-hero...neither he absolutely white, nor he was all black...but did I like what he did? I cannot say yes...I did not approve many of his actions...like his forcibly grabbing Manyata whenever he wants...I think Manyata should have slapped him or hit him like she did in their first meeting during the meeting at the club sequence...which girl would like to get touched like that by some absolute stranger?...I think this is where feminism comes...I always like to see a woman, a girl, a lady to possess power which would create respect in hearts of everyone...A woman who can held up her own, fight for her rights despite all odds, Manyata do possess some of those qualities...but she lacks some too...like when Akash insulted her for helping him out she did not go against him, she took all those insults with a pinch of salt, and kept saying Akash will return to her...my question is why? why she thought Akash will come back to her? A girl with self-respect should think that Akash does not deserve her at all..hell I would love to see Manyata as the powerful girl rejecting both her admirers...holding up her head high and fulfilling the duties as a ruler of Devgarh 😳

Coming to your comment that you said many of the members here supported the beating that Uday gave to Akash ...I always believe in fair game, be it a sport or a fight...thats exactly what lacked when Uday suddenly started beating up Akash with a hockey stick...I have to say most of us did not support Uday, despite being Manveer fans...it was also completely out of character for Uday to behave in such a manner...he could have beat the hell out of Akash when Akash had barged into his place the other day ...you know your this line that people supported beating Akash cause he is not good looking reminded me of Haunchback of Notredame... where the Ugly Haunchback was publicly flogged and the spectators sneered and laughed cause he was Ugly. But I seriously could not find any post supporting Uday for what he did 😕 .

As far as my knowledge is concerned feminism means supporting women's rights, issues related with it ...and there are many issues in this show which does raise questions on women's right and I would love to debate on that...Why is Komal always being suppressed by her family? Why does Unnati always have to be dominated by Uday? Why cant they have any voice in the politics that their family loves to play? why are they always sidelined? ..it would be great if the CV's can actually make these characters stronger and bolder, people whose voices can be heard and not just disappear into oblivion.

Now coming to the part why I dont like Akash ...I think its the way his character has been shaped up...I would have liked him if he had supported Moniya to become Manyata...if he would have comforted her all the time when Manyata came with her problems related to Uday and her family...If he would have made her realise that the Royal family is her own family and she must accept them...but instead he accused her of changing, made her promise to remain the same Moniya she was, told her that her family is against her...I would have loved to see him meeting Dadisaab with his head held high up and presenting his point of view...proving his love for Manyata...but he did none of these...he just became a weak poor lover against whom everyone is conspiring, and someone who only barks and not bites...not a character I would love to call a hero 🤔...Uday at least is someone who not only barks but also bites...a very strong character...and evil though he might be...I wont mind him being a hero 😆

Edited by mysticwater24 - 13 years ago

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Geet

@PanjabanJatti

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#25

Its not that we like uday veer by his looks..if u watched all those episodes side by side..you would come to the conclusion that Udayveer accepts Moniya/Manyata how she is..yes he wants her to change in front of people but for him she doesnt have to change..on the other side we have Akash who doesnt approve Moniya changing into Manyata..If im not wrong isnt the base of true love trust??he doubts on Manyata..And If u love someone u continue to love the person no matter what..But he always had excuses..And yes Udayveer has grey shades..But Akash has them too...he hides his anger..on the other side UdayVeer shows them 😉

So conclusion UdayVeer is the best choice for Manyata!!

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