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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

I am going to write about yesterdays and today's together...(even if you do not want it you are getting it..😉😛...)

Now regarding yesterday's episode the part where Radhika related how her father brought her up and made sure that even if he goes hungry, Radhika will go to school and linked it to the story of the little girl was good and liked the look that Dev gave her..they were going to talk more on this subject when the sudden phone call arrives and both hesitate looking at each other...maybe Radhika wanted to talk more about her baba and Dev wanted to listen to her childhood stories that matter to her. Then Dev goes to pick up the phone and Radhika happily tells Mansaram that she passed a judgment in front of everyone. Now if I take it as Radhika being happy that she finally passed a judgement in society ...the same society that ridiculed her and called her characterless...I can understand her happiness. Then Dev suggested that she should go home for few days (the clingy Dev is ok with Radhika going alone?🤔)...now Radhika gives excuses why she cannot go which might be because she does not want to leave Dev even for a minute and that also she wants to take Dev with her to Rawal finally as her husband..no more hiding , no more being scared, but now she can claim him as her own in front of everyone (I liked her reaction here). Then the part regarding Dev in the muth was also good...I mean atleast he has been shown doing some work...but I don't know whether this land problem was just used as an excuse to show this roothna phase of Radhika to placate the viewers/distract attention (this is what many wanted to see) or will it have some significance later on in the track...that future can also say.

But then I had problems and my problems were in Mansaram's house....I did not have that much problem with Shanti or Chanda's reactions to Radhika. Shanti was showing she was happy but it was all an act to soften Radhika...she has done this before too when she was playing on Radhika's emotions when she was trying to fix up Rohan with Radhika...the person I had problems with was Mansaram. Not his happiness in seeing Radhika but I was scratching my head here that does he not know about what happened to Barkha?I mean did he ask about Barkha? I ight be wrong here but I did not hear Barkha being mentioned by Mansaram...maybe the video that I watched did not have it? 😕 I am confused because Radhika and Barkha have grown up together and Urmila kaki lives in Rawal...has she been sent off to some undisclosed location? 🤔 If Barkha has been swept under tha carpet (that is if no charatcer refers to her name) then do we the audience now have to start imagining that the bogeywoman named Barkha never existed in CB2 and was just part of audience's imagination? Again I have not suddenly developed a soft corner for Barkha in my heart and I care two hoots for her but this sudden pin drop silence regarding Barkha when she was ruling the roost in CB2 makes it look surreal and weird...🤔 Anyway leaving Barkha aside...so Dev does not arrive and Radhika calls him...he cuts off the conversation because he was in front of many people and this makes Radhika angry. After finishing his work Dev calls Radhika and this time Radhika does not pick up the phone because she angry and hurt...Now here I was really staring at the screen and shaking my head...ok sometime banging my head too on the desk...because I could not understand that Radhika could forgive Dev quickly for believing Barkha over her...for believing Barkha's lies over her truth...and she even stopped Dev from showing his regret (well thats what they showed last week...her telling Dev to forget all that)...but she is angry with Dev that he did not come to Rawal from a meeting? So her not being believed...her almost getting killed is nothing in comparison to Dev not coming for dinner?😳 I mean she did not show her hurt then but she is showing it now and hence me banging my head on the desk...😳...Oh that banging action got further continued today (yes I know my poor head😳...oh sorry I think we are not supposed to take Barkha's name now..I forgot...so how do I refer to her as...the one who should not be named?🤔)... Anyway continuation to today's episode...

So Dev yesterday behave rudely and then he realized his mistake and he wanted to make up for that mistake and hence reached Rawal as quickly as was possible...then he spent the entire day trying to placate Radhika because he knows what he did was wrong...Infact in order to butter up Radhika he also referred to Mansaram as Baba which he has never done before but I am guessing he did this because he knows of the emotional connection that Radhika has with her father and hence this should make her very happy...but this placating by Dev for the whole day also made me shake my head (all the banging action was giving me a headache) ..because this made me think that this guy is going through so much trying to placate Radhika when he was just rude to her on the phone but when his actions resulted in her almost living this world...him not going to look for her...him almost hitting her...when his actions also lead Radhika to take the extreme measure regarding forcing Barkha to tell the truth herself...then his remorse was over in two minutes? I mean I could not understand that which error is greater? Then Radhika's actions today regarding her behavior towards Dev made me think of Radhika/kanha and not Radhika. Anyway seeing Radhika/kanha in Radhika suddenly is a character change for me...a persons character builds up as a series of events happens to the person..but the core essence of the character does not change. Actually as a standalone episode it was fine but not as a continuation from the previous ones...to me this is a sudden jump and the flow is absent.

Anyway Chanda is back to her airhead self and is planning on getting Dev..I mean she was ogling him and again Shanti had to pull her away to talk some sense in her head...😆...that to let go off Dev. Now this is what Chanda is about...this Chanda would not have given Shanti the idea regarding using Mansaram to get her married to some rich family. I also found interesting Radhika's reactions to Shanti's giddy feeling regarding temple and pooja and her not being that enthusiastic stand regarding Chanda's marriage...Radhika also told Shanti that one can get what one wants from God provided if one asks with a clear mind. When Shanti mentions to Radhika regarding the good family that Radhika has married into...again Radhika was not that open...now I do not know whether that is because she is angry with Dev or thoughtful regarding whatever has happened with her.Yesterday when Radhika was leaving for Rawal and Dev was seeing her of...they were playing few words of the song in the backgorund..."I am consoling myself that since the distance has been removed there will be a shower of love...that the uncomplete words will be completed soon and my mind is consoling me that for the time being my love has accepted me as his own".I don't know whether these verses were a one off or do they have any meaning for ths track?

As for acting all were very good...Rubina was very good with her pouting and being angry...Avinash equally good trying to fall over himself trying to placate Radhika...Shanti slyly trying to get into both Radhika and Dev's good books and her attitude of she is doing what she has to do and not what she likes to do...Aditya Lakhia as Mansaram who is happy that his daughter has got her rights and also Sidharth as Chebu and the lady enacting Chanda's role (sorry I do not know her name).

Before I finish today Dev following Radhika all over Rawal trying to woo her back reminded me of their childhood excursion in the mela.

Edited by misti73 - 13 years ago

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Mirela

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Posted: 13 years ago

Thanks misti 4 analysing both episodes!! I too think is very weird that bh's has become like that dark Lord from Harry Potter where everyone knows he existed but they ignore it,never mention him..anyway i think radh was mad at dev for not sharing his problems to her...i see the situation now as a fresh start so maybe radh is thinking this too,no more looking into the past to those mistakes he made so she now wants 4 him to trust her and never take her 4 granted thats y she reacted this way today...the fake anger was prolonged yes but didnt seem like radh changed so much to me..They were light hearted moments today and i enjoyed it..hope cvs show 2morow radh saying she was just returning the favor for devs numerous teasings..

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Angie

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Posted: 13 years ago

Misti,

Thanks for your comments. Very good commentary and you echoed almost all my thoughts. I missed your commentary yesterday.

This is the problem I had with last two episodes. If these episodes had come after emotional closure of Barkha and appropriate reaction from Dev and Radhika, then I would have found them more entertaining.

I liked both Avinash and Rubina as Dev and Radhika here and yes the reactions of both were similar to mela where Radhika pushed Dev in mud when he wouldn't let her see bioscope that he bought from his own money. Radhika felt rights over Dev from the very beginning and she was acting that way today. So my problem was not with that at all. But it was the way they showed it.

There were things I liked and others that to me showed a change in Radhika.

1. The initial scene from yesterday was good when Dev and Radhika were discussing the Muth issues. Liked it as Radhika's role in CB2 especially is more than a housewife. From the beginning, they showed Dev relying on her for RP work and it was good to see that. I liked that Radhika remembered how her father sacrificed for her education and I liked how Dev took responsibility of some poor girl's education.

2. Liked the look of Dev before that phone call where he was going to talk to Radhika about her childhood. Also the conversation between Mansa and Radhika was ok at that point.

3. Liked Radhika resisting to go and then agreeing to go only if Dev would come and stay with her for those two days. For Radhika, Dev is uppermost and she wouldn't leave him especially after all they have gone through. But had problems with Dev's reaction here. They are just newly married and have just got public recognition of their relationship. On top of that, Dev is very needy wanting Radhika to come running to him the moment he is free. So he wouldn't want her to go. He would ask her to go so that she can meet her family but he would show some reluctance or sadness or something. Here he was nonchalantly insisting that she go for 3-4 days.

4. Padma is now Yasoda maiya again and her too positive sweet behavior is little grating for me. But maybe Radhika is now her favorite and her putting guilt trip regarding Rohan would come later. So ignoring that part. Her genorosity in gifts for Mansa family was consistent with her. She is progressive that way and she has class in that sense. So ignoring her positivity for now. But it is somewhat strange to see her so caring for Dev as to give him food. Previously nobody cared whether he was hungry or had headache or whatever. It was only Radhika. Maybe it is Dev's changed status and Radhika's open show of love for him that has made a difference. So ignoring that part for now too.

5. Radhika open show of love and resistance was good. She always shows that Dev is her preference and she is reluctant because she wants to take care of him. Also she is bold enough to show her love in front of both families - Mansa and PF. This is how she was from the very beginning. So liked this part.

6. Now Shanti and Chanda were consistent. Chenu is again responsible as the episode changed again. But my main problem (similar to you Misti) was with Mansa. He didn't even once ask Radhika about Barkha. Does he know that Barkha did all that to Radhika. He must as Urmila lives in Rawal too. So why no concern for that? Why no concern that Radhika was missing for a month (known to everyone) and that Dev didn't inform him? Shouldn't he have an emotional scene with Radhika on this? Shouldn't he be angry with Dev for this? Mansa who could slap Dev for kidnapping Radhika wouldn't hesitate to show his anger at him.

Then Mansa has no problem if Radhika is there to do all the work. Mansa is a hard worker and even though Radhika always helped him, his relationship with Radhika is more than work. He just loves her as a daughter. But they made it come across like that for me.

7. Did like the kitchen scene as all the characters were true to form. Mansa helping Radhika in kitchen and looking at her with love. All sitting in the kitchen and eating together. This is how this family was and it looked realistic.

8. I liked Chanda better today as she was acting like her usual bimbo behavior. Also liked pragmatic Shanti scolding her for eyeing Dev and concentrating on finding a rich groom. Radhika was also fine where she listened to Shanti's demands, nodded but did not seem too eager. So she would look for a groom for Chanda but will not give in to unreasonable demands of Shanti. Hope they keep her that way. Also liked how she showed her closeness to Chenu and Mansa but kept a polite distance from Shanti and Chanda. Shanti was good where she is trying to show a good side to Radhika but is really acting. She was always that way.

9. Now the final scene of Dev and Radhika. I liked Dev working in the muth and he looked good sorrounded by people. I had no problem with Dev cutting off Radhika in the middle as for him the work is important and this was an important job. Also he is not open to showing his feelings in public. So he felt awkward. That was totally fine. Of course he would feel regret later on for his abrupt behavior. So Dev in that scene was consistent.

But is that work scene standalone to show Dev and Radhika's romantic scenes. I hope they show more problems at work maybe as a result of Barkha being Rptain, Virat and Rohan's plans to discredit Dev. Just standalone work scenes to show romantic scenes is not enough.

My problem was with Radhika here. Radhika who didn't show hurt at Dev's disbelief when she showed that hurt six months ago is suddenly so mad at Dev. She too understands the importance of work. So she wouldn't get mad at Dev for not coming on time. She may be angry at him for cutting her off and not explaining properly, but this scene and today's behavior seemed somewhat uncharacteristic of Radhika because they skipped Radhika's hurt.

Dev is now feeling remorseful for his behavior when there was no guilt or remorse shown for not believing Radhika or for almost letting her die. Again these episodes came out looking out of place because of how they treated the end of Barkha track. If only they had shown Radhika showing her hurt to Dev for putting sindoor on Barkha and for not coming to look for her or believing her and Dev showing his repentence and trying to make up for all his past mistakes, today's episodes would have been more meaningful.

Also Radhika not giving food to Dev was uncharacteristic of her. She may not wipe his shoes out of anger but she would still feed him knowing fully well that he was busy with work and just drove for 5 hours to come to her. So had problems with that scene.

10. I was ok with the market scene as Radhika may let him run after her. Also an introvert person is more shy of showing his feelings in front of family but wouldn't have problems showing up his love in front of strangers. So I was ok with the last scenes in that sense. Also Radhika may be just teasing him in these scenes. So that was totally fine. Also I liked the way Dev said that Radhika was his RPtain and even teasingly asked the old woman about it. There is relief now in his tone that he can call Radhika RPtain or his wife publicly.

Again in conclusion, I am not getting a complete feeling and not enjoying the episodes as I would have enjoyed them because of how no emotional scenes of Dev and Radhika were shown. Dev is just used for romantic scenes and that is not going well with me. Again as stand-alone episodes they are cute episodes but not in context of moving from one track to other. I too did not find the flow or the balance.

Even if they now show a meaningful conversation between Dev and Radhika, I would be more ok. They can show that Radhika's anger has deep rooted reasons. That she is callign Dev a bad husband not because of his work or cutting her phone call, but because there is still a hurt inside that he behaved that way with her. Show that Dev eventually realizes that the anger is coming from somewhere and that he made all these efforts as he is trying to assuage his guilt too.

But will CVs show this is a question? So far it doesn't seem as if anything meaningful would be shown. it is now all transfer to a new track. Even Mansa was not spared yesterday.

Anyway, coming to acting liked Avinash followed by Rubina. Aditya and Garima and actress playing Chanda were also good. So was Siddhart in his brief role as Chenu. It is finally good to see Mansa family getting a role in this story.

Misti: Please stop banging your head when you watch CB episodes. If you keep expecting logic or consistency, your head would get sore.

As far as Barkha is concerned, I don't know how she ruled. Once Dev offered to resign and Mahant & his associates accepted Dev's act of making Barkha RPtain as a dharmic act, the property and everything including Dev got transferred to Radhika pretty easily. I mean the lawyer was at Muth and he didn't raise any property or fraud issues at all.

Or maybe you are right. Barkha was always an illusion and it was all in Dada's imagination when he was dying. He was wishing for Radhika's death but then himself died when he realized that even in his illusions, he saw Dev finally making Radhika RPtain and Radhika ruling the PB and all muths. So he died of shock. So maybe Barkha the physio-therapist is still living somewhere in Nand gaon. That's why nobody including Mansa is worrying about it.

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Niharika

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: misti73

I am going to write about yesterdays and today's together...(even if you do not want it you are getting it..😉😛...)

Now regarding yesterday's episode the part where Radhika related how her father brought her up and made sure that even if he goes hungry, Radhika will go to school and linked it to the story of the little girl was good and liked the look that Dev gave her..they were going to talk more on this subject when the sudden phone call arrives and both hesitate looking at each other...maybe Radhika wanted to talk more about her baba and Dev wanted to listen to her childhood stories that matter to her. Then Dev goes to pick up the phone and Radhika happily tells Mansaram that she passed a judgment in front of everyone.
Conversations miltha hi bahut kam hai! upar yeh phone calls and disturbances! I liked the way the convo started, but before it progressed the phone call!😕
Now if I take it as Radhika being happy that she finally passed a judgement in society ...the same society that ridiculed her and called her characterless...I can understand her happiness. Then Dev suggested that she should go home for few days (the clingy Dev is ok with Radhika going alone?🤔)...
Misti u know what i was thinking "kyun Dev babu Kyun Radhika ko maayka bhaga rahen hai"😆... ... ..btw it didnt go with his character!! As per Dev he wont allow Radhika leaving him for a sec and here he's asking Radh to go for her Maayka for 2 days😲
now Radhika gives excuses why she cannot go which might be because she does not want to leave Dev even for a minute and that also she wants to take Dev with her to Rawal finally as her husband..no more hiding , no more being scared, but now she can claim him as her own in front of everyone (I liked her reaction here). Then the part regarding Dev in the muth was also good...I mean atleast he has been shown doing some work...but I don't know whether this land problem was just used as an excuse to show this roothna phase of Radhika to placate the viewers/distract attention (this is what many wanted to see) or will it have some significance later on in the track...that future can also say.
I liked the problems coming in mutt!!!😆 ( remember i once asked Kyun Mutt mein koi problems hi nahi hai kya??) and now when they are showing it and Dev babu handling them seriously😳 wont mind if this situation gets more serious!! ( i know Dev babu will solve it finally)!!! Hopefully they will show it as next part of the track and RaDev handling together and how the realtionship of DevRadhika grows with it!

But then I had problems and my problems were in Mansaram's house....I did not have that much problem with Shanti or Chanda's reactions to Radhika. Shanti was showing she was happy but it was all an act to soften Radhika...she has done this before too when she was playing on Radhika's emotions when she was trying to fix up Rohan with Radhika...the person I had problems with was Mansaram. Not his happiness in seeing Radhika but I was scratching my head here that does he not know about what happened to Barkha?I mean did he ask about Barkha? I ight be wrong here but I did not hear Barkha being mentioned by Mansaram...maybe the video that I watched did not have it? 😕 I am confused because Radhika and Barkha have grown up together and Urmila kaki lives in Rawal...has she been sent off to some undisclosed location? 🤔 If Barkha has been swept under tha carpet (that is if no charatcer refers to her name) then do we the audience now have to start imagining that the bogeywoman named Barkha never existed in CB2 and was just part of audience's imagination? Again I have not suddenly developed a soft corner for Barkha in my heart and I care two hoots for her but this sudden pin drop silence regarding Barkha when she was ruling the roost in CB2 makes it look surreal and weird...🤔 Anyway leaving Barkha aside...me dont want to hear about it and happy that her talk is not even heard!!..so Dev does not arrive and Radhika calls him...he cuts off the conversation because he was in front of many people and this makes Radhika angry. After finishing his work Dev calls Radhika and this time Radhika does not pick up the phone because she angry and hurt...Now here I was really staring at the screen and shaking my head...ok sometime banging my head too on the desk...because I could not understand that Radhika could forgive Dev quickly for believing Barkha over her...for believing Barkha's lies over her truth...and she even stopped Dev from showing his regret (well thats what they showed last week...her telling Dev to forget all that)...but she is angry with Dev that he did not come to Rawal from a meeting? So her not being believed...her almost getting killed is nothing in comparison to Dev not coming for dinner?😳 I mean she did not show her hurt then but she is showing it now and hence me banging my head on the desk...😳...Oh that banging action got further continued today (yes I know my poor head😳...and I have told chunnu munnu that my head is not made of concrete unlike Barkha...oh sorry we are not supposed to take Barkha's name now..I forgot...so how do I refer to her as...the one who should not be named?🤔)... Anyway continuation to today's episode...
Misti just enjoy the pouting of Radhika and Dev pacifying Radhika!!😆
btw it is not me saying but the screenplay of the Mondays and todays episode!!! 😕 😳
I dont understand why Radh would get so angry on just one phone call!! ( not that Dev has not answered, and he's not picked up her call after the repeated attempts from her, or not that he scolded her for repeated no of calls while he's so busy that she's disturbing him!!)
But anyways since i have stopped expecting too much from our CV's, as i came to know after giving it many chances that expecting too much from CV's is just a waste of time!! as we know CV's will never stand upto it and i should just watch the episode thinking u cant get more than this!!! and they cant do any than this!!
So now i have giveup trying to find the little logic i can relate and going by the mindless screenplay and enjoying RaDev's cute scenes!😕

So Dev yesterday behave rudely and then he realized his mistake and he wanted to make up for that mistake and hence reached Rawal as quickly as was possible...then he spent the entire day trying to placate Radhika because he knows what he did was wrong...Infact in order to butter up Radhika he also referred to Mansaram as Baba which he has never done before but I am guessing he did this because he knows of the emotional connection that Radhika has with her father and hence this should make her very happy...but this placating by Dev for the whole day also made me shake my head (all the banging action was giving me a headache) ..because this made me think that this guy is going through so much trying to placate Radhika when he was just rude to her on the phone but when his actions resulted in her almost living this world...him not going to look for her...him almost hitting her...when his actions also lead Radhika to take the extreme measure regarding forcing Barkha to tell the truth herself...then his remorse was over in two minutes? I mean I could not understand that which error is greater? Then Radhika's actions today regarding her behavior towards Dev made me think of Radhika/kanha and not Radhika. Anyway seeing Radhika/kanha in Radhika suddenly is a character change for me...a persons character builds up as a series of events happens to the person..but the core essence of the character does not change. Actually as a standalone episode it was fine but not as a continuation from the previous ones...to me this is a sudden jump and the flow is absent.

Liked the episode with Dev being so cute!!! liked the new phase between RaDev! onl if they were shown with some good pace and continiuty would have made more sense!!
But Rubina and Mainly Avinash were so cute today!! I laughed so much that i even had the stomach ache!!😆

Anyway Chanda is back to her airhead self and is planning on getting Dev..I mean she was ogling him and again Shanti had to pull her away to talk some sense in her head...😆...that to let go off Dev. Now this is what Chanda is about...this Chanda would not have given Shanti the idea regarding using Mansaram to get her married to some rich family. I also found interesting Radhika's reactions to Shanti's giddy feeling regarding temple and pooja and her not being that enthusiastic stand regarding Chanda's marriage...Radhika also told Shanti that one can get what one wants from God provided if one asks with a clear mind. When Shanti mentions to Radhika regarding the good family that Radhika has married into...again Radhika was not that open...now I do not know whether that is because she is angry with Dev or thoughtful regarding whatever has happened with her.Yesterday when Radhika was leaving for Rawal and Dev was seeing her of...they were playing few words of the song in the backgorund...I am consoling myself that since the distance has been removed there will be a shower of love...that the uncomplete words will be completed soon and my mind is consoling me that for the time being my love has accepted me as his own.I don't know whether these verses were a one off or do they have any meaning for ths track?

As for acting all were very good...Rubina was very good with her pouting and being angry...Avinash equally good trying to fall over himself trying to placate Radhika...Shanti slyly trying to get into both Radhika and Dev's good books and her attitude of she is doing what she has to do and not what she likes to do...Aditya Lakhia as Mansaram who is happy that his daughter has got her rights and also Sidharth as Chebu and the lady enacting Chanda's role (sorry I do not know her name).

Before I finish today Dev following Radhika all over Rawal trying to woo her back reminded me of their childhood excursion in the mela.

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seema

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Posted: 13 years ago

🤣 Misti i really njoyed reading your comments tody and your hypothesis..So Bh wa just figment of imagination of audiences and none should name her ever again.. of-course till she comes back😉

I would have njoyed such light Avina/Radev centric episodes had " Who must not be named"😆 track was closed properly...and tgis sudden chnage does bring a sense of unfamiliarity to this show and result in disinterest however sweet episodes are...plus i am wondering if members of creative team is now not claiming their self proclaimed triumph of closing that over strtched track with BANG Ok leaving that aside as did not watch the episode ... only had a rare chance last week when i saw two episodes back to back🤪..deadly end of One who should not be named, had a blast then and now i dont want to experience that again...will come later have work😭 but your comments are just awesome😊

Advice: pls never watch CB sitting beside a table..you tend to bang your head and we feel the pain😉😆

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rajsri

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Posted: 13 years ago

Enjoyed your thoughts, Misti ... missed them yesterday

First of all, i enjoyed today's episode (inconsistent as it was) - mainly bcos i am hoping that deep down rads is upset at dev for his lack of trust in her (sometimes, we tend to flare up at small things when it is some larger underlying issue that is bothering us) ... i am still hoping for an emotional confrontation between them - esp since she did stress that for him work and RP seemed more important. Anyway, let us see- am not keeping my hopes up ... it does look like everyone has forgotten that barkha even existed 😕😆

If it is not the underlying thing, but just her getting miffed for him for not sharing his work ... well, talk about picking the wrong things to fight about ... it is not consistent with how forgiving rads has been of dev's past behavior ... also, it is not like rads to not feed dev - that was silly to show

Avinash and Rubina were very good ... they were possibly playing themselves 😆 ... i like Avinash's ability to tranform from looking like a tough guy to regular guy to little boy ... rubina is excellent at that too - i meant little girl to rads to R/K

Monday, i too liked the part where rads thinks about mansaram and what he did for her as a child ... Dev at the mutt was good to see (am also hoping that there are more problems at the mutt caused by barkha)

Shanti was hilarious with her expressions and her expectations of rads... chanda eyeing dev and her mother warning her off were very funny

Radhika and dev today reminded me of them as kids ... she was pretty possessive and open with dev about how she felt at that time ... and if it had come on the heels of an episode that had good emotional closure or is the beginning of episodes where we will have emotional closure , it would be great

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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Myra.nelly
Thanks misti 4 analysing both episodes!!you are welcome Myra ...by the way this was not an analysis...it was more a commentary. If I really sit down to analyse I will be booted out of the forum.😉I too think is very weird that bh's has become like that dark Lord from Harry Potter where everyone knows he existed but they ignore it,never mention him..this is not only weird but surreal..it like those dark secrets hidden away in cuboard.everyone knows that they exists but no one has the guts to face it and then it comes back with a vengenance when one is least expecting it.😉 anyway i think radh was mad at dev for not sharing his problems to her.she might be but then it sounds strange that she was not affected with the Dev not trusting her but getting affected by this... ..i see the situation now as a fresh start so maybe radh is thinking this too,no more looking into the past to those mistakes fresh start mayeb but does one not need to deal with the past and have emotional closure before going for a fresh start...And this is something that hurt Rdahika a lot ...that Dev did not trust her but trusted the one who should not be named. So this is not something minor that she can brush aside. he made so she now wants 4 him to trust her and never take her 4 granted thats y she reacted this way today..ifshe does not want him to ever take her for granted then doesn't that show that some unresolved issues are there?otherwise why is she putting her foot down as if to say enough is enough the fake anger was prolonged yes but didnt seem like radh changed so much to me.well to me it did...because it is a sudden change.They were light hearted moments today and i enjoyed it..hope cvs show 2morow radh saying she was just returning the favor for devs numerous teasings..they might but won't that make her a tit for tat person? When did Radhika become a tit for tat person regarding Dev?

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misti73

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: why6
Misti,

Thanks for your comments. You are welcome Angie Very good commentary and you echoed almost all my thoughts. I missed your commentary yesterday.I was hiding under my duvet yesterday.😳😉

This is the problem I had with last two episodes. If these episodes had come after emotional closure of Barkha and appropriate reaction from Dev and Radhika, then I would have found them more entertaining.

I liked both Avinash and Rubina as Dev and Radhika here and yes the reactions of both were similar to mela where Radhika pushed Dev in mud when he wouldn't let her see bioscope that he bought from his own money. Radhika felt rights over Dev from the very beginning and she was acting that way today. So my problem was not with that at all. But it was the way they showed it. Yes..the flow was not there...and that was my main problem.

There were things I liked and others that to me showed a change in Radhika.

1. The initial scene from yesterday was good when Dev and Radhika were discussing the Muth issues. Liked it as Radhika's role in CB2 especially is more than a housewife. From the beginning, they showed Dev relying on her for RP work and it was good to see that. I liked that Radhika remembered how her father sacrificed for her education and I liked how Dev took responsibility of some poor girl's education.Yes like that part too...

2. Liked the look of Dev before that phone call where he was going to talk to Radhika about her childhood. Also the conversation between Mansa and Radhika was ok at that point. Yes

3. Liked Radhika resisting to go and then agreeing to go only if Dev would come and stay with her for those two days. For Radhika, Dev is uppermost and she wouldn't leave him especially after all they have gone through. Yes But had problems with Dev's reaction here. They are just newly married and have just got public recognition of their relationship. On top of that, Dev is very needy wanting Radhika to come running to him the moment he is free. So he wouldn't want her to go. He would ask her to go so that she can meet her family but he would show some reluctance or sadness or something. Here he was nonchalantly insisting that she go for 3-4 days. Yes to your underlined part and that is why Dev's behaviour was not matching with how they have projected him until now.

4. Padma is now Yasoda maiya again and her too positive sweet behavior is little grating for me. But maybe Radhika is now her favorite and her putting guilt trip regarding Rohan would come later. So ignoring that part. Her genorosity in gifts for Mansa family was consistent with her. She is progressive that way and she has class in that sense. So ignoring her positivity for now. But it is somewhat strange to see her so caring for Dev as to give him food. Previously nobody cared whether he was hungry or had headache or whatever. It was only Radhika. Maybe it is Dev's changed status and Radhika's open show of love for him that has made a difference. So ignoring that part for now too. I ignored Padma because to me Padma is now secure so she is will be mIss. goody two shoes...

5. Radhika open show of love and resistance was good. She always shows that Dev is her preference and she is reluctant because she wants to take care of him. Also she is bold enough to show her love in front of both families - Mansa and PF. This is how she was from the very beginning. So liked this part. yes that part was ok.

6. Now Shanti and Chanda were consistent. Chenu is again responsible as the episode changed again. Yeh I was shaking my head when Chenu again became good from bad.poor thing ..I mean hopefully he does not become Bipolar this way😉.I mean once he is good and then suddnly becomes bad and then suddenly becomes good. But my main problem (similar to you Misti) was with Mansa. He didn't even once ask Radhika about Barkha. Does he know that Barkha did all that to Radhika. He must as Urmila lives in Rawal too. So why no concern for that? Does the society know about Barkha's real face? I mean both dai and Padma were saying to not mention about all this again...so that's why I am wondering whether the society knows about Barkha's true face. I know the police were looking for her but how long wll it take for the police to become quiet about the case if the Purohits want it to be so. But he surely must have heard that Barkha is dead? so shouldn't he be talking to Rdahika about the best friends who died. Why no concern that Radhika was missing for a month (known to everyone) and that Dev didn't inform him? This is very strange...I mean how did they justify Rdahika's one month dissapearance? I mean since at that time she was not the official RPtian so no one cared about her andspoke about her and the Purohits did not tell Mansaram? Shouldn't he have an emotional scene with Radhika on this? Shouldn't he be angry with Dev for this? Mansa who could slap Dev for kidnapping Radhika wouldn't hesitate to show his anger at him. Yes provided he is aware of it...

Then Mansa has no problem if Radhika is there to do all the work. Mansa is a hard worker and even though Radhika always helped him, his relationship with Radhika is more than work. He just loves her as a daughter. But they made it come across like that for me. What the problem for me here was that in the past few months they have hardly brought in Mansa in the story as to him missing Radhika...they could have shown a phone call or even some dialogues that he had called or something like that...none of that was shown but suddenly they brought him up in this respect. That is why this stood out for me.Mansa was brought in whenever they needed him for a track but was not in as a charatcer who is Radhika's father and who on the basis of this relationship should be atleast presence in the peripheree. It might be ok for others but not for me .

7. Did like the kitchen scene as all the characters were true to form. Mansa helping Radhika in kitchen and looking at her with love. All sitting in the kitchen and eating together. This is how this family was and it looked realistic. Yes becase they behave like a family.

8. I liked Chanda better today as she was acting like her usual bimbo behavior. Also liked pragmatic Shanti scolding her for eyeing Dev and concentrating on finding a rich groom. I was laughing there...that was hilarious.Radhika was also fine where she listened to Shanti's demands, nodded but did not seem too eager. So she would look for a groom for Chanda but will not give in to unreasonable demands of Shanti. Hope they keep her that way. Garima and Rubina have excellent chemistry as Shanti and Radhika, both the charatcers are wary of each other and when ever possible do maintain a distance. Also liked how she showed her closeness to Chenu and Mansa but kept a polite distance from Shanti and Chanda. Shanti was good where she is trying to show a good side to Radhika but is really acting. She was always that way. Yes...

9. Now the final scene of Dev and Radhika. I liked Dev working in the muth and he looked good sorrounded by people. I had no problem with Dev cutting off Radhika in the middle as for him the work is important and this was an important job. Also he is not open to showing his feelings in public. So he felt awkward. That was totally fine. Of course he would feel regret later on for his abrupt behavior. So Dev in that scene was consistent. Dev did look at others before he suddenly cut off the conversation.(shows him not being comfortable regarding taking in front of others regarding personal matter which is ok) ..but the way that he cut of the conversation can be taken as a rude behaviour but I cannot blame him for that because I have myself have reacted similarly when I am in a meeting and I get a phone calls.

But is that work scene standalone to show Dev and Radhika's romantic scenes. I hope they show more problems at work maybe as a result of Barkha being Rptain, Virat and Rohan's plans to discredit Dev. Just standalone work scenes to show romantic scenes is not enough.Same question from me too...

My problem was with Radhika here. Radhika who didn't show hurt at Dev's disbelief when she showed that hurt six months ago is suddenly so mad at Dev. She too understands the importance of work. So she wouldn't get mad at Dev for not coming on time. She may be angry at him for cutting her off and not explaining properly, but this scene and today's behavior seemed somewhat uncharacteristic of Radhika because they skipped Radhika's hurt.Yes to all here.

Dev is now feeling remorseful for his behavior when there was no guilt or remorse shown for not believing Radhika or for almost letting her die. Again these episodes came out looking out of place because of how they treated the end of Barkha track. If only they had shown Radhika showing her hurt to Dev for putting sindoor on Barkha and for not coming to look for her or believing her and Dev showing his repentence and trying to make up for all his past mistakes, today's episodes would have been more meaningful. Yes to all here.

Also Radhika not giving food to Dev was uncharacteristic of her. She may not wipe his shoes out of anger but she would still feed him knowing fully well that he was busy with work and just drove for 5 hours to come to her. So had problems with that scene.Yes for me too.

10. I was ok with the market scene as Radhika may let him run after her. Also an introvert person is more shy of showing his feelings in front of family but wouldn't have problems showing up his love in front of strangers. So I was ok with the last scenes in that sense. Also Radhika may be just teasing him in these scenes. So that was totally fine. Also I liked the way Dev said that Radhika was his RPtain and even teasingly asked the old woman about it. There is relief now in his tone that he can call Radhika RPtain or his wife publicly. That entire scene reminded me of the childhood escapade in the Mela.Dev is an introvert in the sense that he kept his emotional distance from the members in the purohit family...when he first met Mansaram's family he was friendly with them too but he went back behind his wall as soon as he got to know that his marriage is being fixed up with Chanda or that Chanda and Rdahika's family are interested in him as a husband for Chanda. As soon he feels emtionally uncomfortable or threatened he starts maintianing a distance.

Again in conclusion, I am not getting a complete feeling and not enjoying the episodes as I would have enjoyed them because of how no emotional scenes of Dev and Radhika were shown. Dev is just used for romantic scenes and that is not going well with me. Again as stand-alone episodes they are cute episodes but not in context of moving from one track to other.Yes to all here. I too did not find the flow or the balance.

Even if they now show a meaningful conversation between Dev and Radhika, I would be more ok. They can show that Radhika's anger has deep rooted reasons. That she is callign Dev a bad husband not because of his work or cutting her phone call, but because there is still a hurt inside that he behaved that way with her. Show that Dev eventually realizes that the anger is coming from somewhere and that he made all these efforts as he is trying to assuage his guilt too. Yes to all here and that Dev was avoiding to accept his fault regarding Barkha becuase he did not want to face failure..that he was not really a just Rajpurohit..but based on how they dealt with barkha's end I doubt whether they will show this and will be pleasantly surprised if they do.

But will CVs show this is a question? So far it doesn't seem as if anything meaningful would be shown. it is now all transfer to a new track. Even Mansa was not spared yesterday.Yes to all here

Anyway, coming to acting liked Avinash followed by Rubina. Aditya and Garima and actress playing Chanda were also good. So was Siddhart in his brief role as Chenu. It is finally good to see Mansa family getting a role in this story. Yes to all here

Misti: Please stop banging your head when you watch CB episodes. If you keep expecting logic or consistency, your head would get sore. Thats why I was hiding under my duvet yesterday.😳

As far as Barkha is concerned, I don't know how she ruled. Once Dev offered to resign and Mahant & his associates accepted Dev's act of making Barkha RPtain as a dharmic act, the property and everything including Dev got transferred to Radhika pretty easily. I mean the lawyer was at Muth and he didn't raise any property or fraud issues at all. the magic of brushing everything under the carpet.😉

Or maybe you are right. Barkha was always an illusion and it was all in Dada's imagination when he was dying. He was wishing for Radhika's death but then himself died when he realized that even in his illusions, he saw Dev finally making Radhika RPtain and Radhika ruling the PB and all muths. So he died of shock. So maybe Barkha the physio-therapist is still living somewhere in Nand gaon. That's why nobody including Mansa is worrying about it. 😆😆🤣

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It's great to see Mansaram and PF bonding together as we haven't seen much of the two families during Radika's / Barkha's scenario. Also Shanti welcoming Dev into the fold with a big smile😃...all because 'the lady 'wants Rads to find a good husband just like Dev babu for Chanda😉 awww!! I quite liked the 'pretend' anger from Rads. Don't think it's genuine...could be wrong. It's amazing to see the difference in both lifestyles. Dev so down to earth and Rads is at home doing what she does best - cooking. I honestly hope that they find a nice young man for Chanda so she can get wed and do some house work and get her hands dirty. You look so young and innocent.

Cv's ...the continuity, well in my opinion was a bit of 'hit and miss'. Niha...I agree with your comment on Cv...what you see it's what you get. Thanks Misti for your thoughts.👍🏼 fabulous.

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