Is Koki's anger really wrong?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes she is wrong in using the Samaj Seva phrase because in the end they are all a family, but this too is because her frusration level has reached so high she is not thiniking straight, because we have seen that she does care for Jigar.
I feel Koki's anger is more out of frustration than the fact that Ahem and Gopi are coming closer.
I thought about it a lot. Every time Koki had some doubts on Urshi and she tried to prove things she was shot down, no one believed her. Ahem on the hand held the anger on behalf of his mother. Then Rashi's truth finally came out and Hetal was the one to throw her out but Koki got accused of abusing Rashi. Koki's own mother was given the false information making Nani angry on Koki. The fake kidnapping where no one believed her and then she proved it. Then the real kidnapping and Gopi getting hurt. Urmila knowing she could have easily helped Gopi by giving her blood but kept silent. I think she has every right to be angry that even after all this Rashi is easily being forgiven. I don't feel that she is being harsh.
Gopi is blind to Rashi's kalakari's god knows why because Rashi hasn't exactly treated her right until now but Ahem is lot smarter than this instead of making Gopi understand why she needs to back off he joins her in her blind belief of Rashi. I can't get one thought out of my mind, why Rashi feels Gopi should help her when she herself tried to ruin Gopi and Koki knows all this and she is very frustrated that she couldn't make Gopi understand but her own son whom she always counted on thinking things thru is acting naive. Not only that he is ignoring his own relationship yet helping someone who doesn't deserve the help and this is her way of thinking.
She know things that Urshi has done that rest of the family is not aware of, for instance the whole ghost track and what Urshi did on Rakshabandhan, and she herself heart them call her "Kagdi" She knows Rashi is greedy, and her fear is if Ahem also started acting naive as Gopi, what will happen to them in the future when the elder's are not around?
I know I am being a cynic here, but in today's world you can't trust your own flesh and blood, and let's face it Jigar and Ahem are cousins not brother's and what joint family stays together forever in the real world? In this would be Koki's concern knowing Rashi so well.
Any mother would be angry if her son didn't worry about his own relationship but wants to help someone else with theirs.
I hope Ahem sees where Koki is coming from and try to make Gopi understand also.
This is my POV out of my own frustration at the whole situation.
I am really angry that Rashi and Jigar's relationship will be soon on mend but Gohem are still in the same place.😡
I don't even want to say anything for Gopi anymore. I give up on her alltogether. She continues with my Rashiben and I will do anything for her, so if some day Rashi asks her to go jump in a lake I believe Gopi will do it.
Same for Jigar, this whole you have done so much for me and I haven't done anything for you...😡
Sorry guys, just wanted to vent and I am on verge of quiting the show.
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-JollyJabeen- thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shilpa,Kind of agree!😛

Im just still in a way furious with Koki.😡

She treats Ahem as a robot,work work work and only give respect and love to Koki -_________-

Im actually for the first time,On the verge of quiting the show aswell..

Sorry to say! 😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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lovely post hats of to you for saying all this 👏agree Koki is a witness to some of rashis kalkaris 😡which is why she is angry with ahem that he could not make gopi understand that rashi is a trouble maker😡 instead he is supporting her 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agreed.. she is more frustrated bcoz every body is more liberal towards Rashi..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: CHIKA784

Shilpa,Kind of agree!😛


Im just still in a way furious with Koki.😡

She treats Ahem as a robot,work work work and only give respect and love to Koki -_________-

Im actually for the first time,On the verge of quiting the show aswell..

Sorry to say! 😳

Thanks Chikka, yes I think at this point Ahem is successful enough, but my whole furstration is at the CVs for always showing Rashi gettting away when she really doesn't deserve it.
I really had high hopes of everything coming out and the she starts to repent, and I atleast want Gopi to use her brains in this because she sure does act over smart in everything else.
Not in the mood to have anything to do with the show for now. May be I need to take a break. I have been watching for over a year now, and nothing new is taking place, they give us a tiny hope and go back to show casing Urshi. I am tired.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sbp1971

Thanks Chikka, yes I think at this point Ahem is successful enough, but my whole furstration is at the CVs for always showing Rashi gettting away when she really doesn't deserve it.

I really had high hopes of everything coming out and the she starts to repent, and I atleast want Gopi to use her brains in this because she sure does act over smart in everything else.
Not in the mood to have anything to do with the show for now. May be I need to take a break. I have been watching for over a year now, and nothing new is taking place, they give us a tiny hope and go back to show casing Urshi. I am tired.


Argh im just getting so mad,literally!😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lots to say Shilpa will be back...
Ok here goes
with all things SNS I am amazed with Koki's charactor
the concept of the charactor , the complex nature not syrupy nice sweet yet those who she loves gaurds fearsly. Righteous and just yet weak when it comes to her own. Intellegent yet loud and a woman who is fallible insecurities and with a inferiority complex that she overcompensates for by trying to be on top always...
Rupal does an amazing job to bring out the complexities and the writer for Koki is amazing ...dialogues are wow...
I feel her frustration...as u say she is never paid heed to when she raises red flags and yet she is left to pick up the pieces when all hell breaks lose...
RaJi...Jiger was justifiably mad at Raashi thiers and I repeat is not a misunderstanding it is a deal breaker...they need to work on it not brush it under the carpet...Rashi has certainly not proved to have understood her mistakes and more over I dont think she takes onus for her bad acts...So what the hell is Jiger Greatfull for...
Gopi...man oh man am I irritated there is a limit to innocence and I think this charactor is not realistic...
She is a subj of abuse...yes but that does not result in someone being so naive I think she is more of a simpleton...So she does notg grasp the complex nature of the situation she is manipulated by her sis who she loves but Koki has warned her...has been more of a mom to her bla blah but bcos of her love for her sis she overlooks everything...so is it safe to say she loves Rashi more than Koki...
My irritations with Gopi are many so lets leave it here cos i could be on a roll
then what happened to the Modi brain...I would be majorley pissed off if my boy were to be so shortsighted and avoided confiding in me (and it is matters of the family).
I am irritated with GoHem that they fail to work on their own marriage...
I loved Jiger and Ahem bonding but am at aloss as to what he is gratefull for ...would have love to see em bonding over jiger making it write with Gopi and Ahem...
Also Koki has always been in competition with Chirag her feeling like the underdog hence setting Ahem to take the challenge however I think she was not upset about the bro hug but what boght that about
Samj seva...the word everyone is angry about well when one is angry you are not very nice with your taunts they are taunts after all and we are talking Koki and her colourful language she does not mince her words...also in this situation I think (and pl hear me out b4 bashing) the word was sorta right they were infact helping Raashi not Jiger (In my opinion they were doing more harm to Jiger..underming his genuine hurt and deserved anger) and to Koki I guess in her disdain for Urshi they are not family they have done nothing to earn that...
Finally I hope the climax of all the build up to the confrontation brings out everyones concern to the table and then things will start eing sorted out..Ahem needs to now start doing some saul searching and contemplation for a quiet sombre man...thus far they have not shown him to be deep he is always in the shadow of one women or the other 1st influenced by koki and now Gopi...
Edited by tangam - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: umfaiz

lovely post hats of to you for saying all this 👏agree Koki is a witness to some of rashis kalkaris 😡which is why she is angry with ahem that he could not make gopi understand that rashi is a trouble maker😡 instead he is supporting her 😕



completely agree... but only if kokila is angry for above mentioned reasons... i.e. i hope she is mad at gohem busy helping undeserving rashi rather than focusing on their own life...

i am keeping fingers crossed that koki is not mad because gohem are getting close... if she is mad at gohem getting close , that will turn her character negative... and that will be end of story with reduced TRPs and more people will stop watching this show...

hope her reasons are worth enough...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shipa, Amazing PoV.. I have almost the same opinion. I just posted this on another thread. So just a copy paste.. But I think Koki acted like Koki given the circumstances..

**Copy-Paste

So lets take a step back and look at the trigger of this outburst.. The first trigger came on weeks before when Koki found Ahem missing work and hiding things from her.. But the final one was yesterday. The Kangan she thought her son bought her was actually for Rashi. So comes the question . Why did Koki find it so surprising and why was she disappointed. So here is my take.

To Koki, Ahem considers his relation with her as the first priority. All other relations come later, be it with Gopi or with Jigar. So yesterday, it was obvious to her that the Kangan was for her. Her son had heard about the Kangans she loved that were broken. Hence he had bought new ones in their place just for her.. She was glad, proud, happy etcc.,
But the next minute, Ahem's actions made her crash down with a thud. He had bought them for Jigar and that too to gift Rashi.
Now first Koki is disappointed, angry, tearful, hurt, humiliated and what not.. She had been so sure of her son and her importance in his life. So when she saw him give the bangles to Jigar, her mind (though totally wrong) would have equated this gesture to her relationship. With this act Ahem has just showed her that he considers his relation with Jigar as more important. Kinda makes sense why she was angry with Jigar and Ahem hugged, doesn't it?
Koki is totally wrong in her thought process but she cannot see beyond what she she considers as Ahem's betrayal.
So in her humiliation (that is what she would have felt), anger at being disappointed, she comes hope today. She then finds Gopi. She lashed out.. It was bound to happen because Koki considers Gopi as one of her own and a part of Ahem. Plus she feels betrayed by Gopi also. She saw Ahem and Gopi talk before the kangan was given. In her mind, she has linked both.
When she told her that Gopi now has no time for the likes of her, the sentence has a direct bearing to what she considers as her weakened status in their minds..
Actually what was unsaid was that she finds it more damning that 'EVEN' to Gopi, she comes second... First it was her son and the second was her DIL who she considers a daughter. So to her, everyone she considers important and her close circle have now ignored her. The final nail in the head.
Hence she lashed out and hurt Gopi in the process. I think the mention of Ahem triggered her anger further. She is now ready to burst.

So when the clients are ignored for the Kangans again, Koki will be more broken. Now it means that her son has also forgotten her advices. He first gave his brother more importance, now he is neglecting her advices that he once considered as bible. A big blow to a proud women. This will cause her outburst to be more striking. She is not going to listen to reason. She will not be satidfied until she makes the other person feel the same amount of hurt she is now facing..

So the question on why she considers helping Jigar as 'Samaj Seva'. Words that are so wrong.. But Kokila is proud. She will never want Ahem to see that she is hurt due to not getting her Kangan. Hence to hide that fact she is using words she thinks are close yet very far away from the truth.. Like us, Ahem will not understand the 'Samaj Seva' piece. Will his mother consider helping his brother as social service. Of course not..
But what Ahem will have to understand is that those words are meant to be hurtful. They are to show that the relation he gave importance to (Brother-Brother), prioritizing above his relation with his mother is of no importance to her, Kokila.. Unsaid words..

By experience, when people who are proud and dominating are hurt or humiliated, the words that come out of their mouth is very abuive and hurtful, just because they are meant to do just that, hurt. But it does not mean that they mean what they say.

One more thing, even if Ahem tries to reason with her tomorrow, Kokila will not listen. Even if she finds that she is at fault, she will not agree. So don't expect any rational behaviour from her tomorrow.

A very long post I know.. But just wanted to explain my view.. Again Kokila may not be right but her actions are understandable..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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ok now shilpa, harini and myself are on the same boat unlike yesterday...


lovely post and so true shilpa...
@harini yet to read urs

****copy paste **** from chika's thread

Koki- Gopi:
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she wanted a naive bahu only so that she can train, mould or change the new naive bahu to be like her and to be able to take care of the modi household just as she does... we all know how competitive spirited she is... being the younger DIL she still rules the house... she wanted and trained Ahemji to be the best in business,.. she also wanted a DIL whom she could train under her guidance to take care of the modi household ...

we all know, and koki knows it as well, people like Anita and Rashi would never listen to koki ... they would never care for the house ...and whoever would be Hetal's bahu may be taking koki's place in the house which she never wanted,,...

In the early days she treated gopi pathetically... frightened and terrified the girl... but that is her way of teaching unlike Hetal who could not teach anything to her DIL... all she did was Javadena and carried on with Rashi's work as well,,,...but as time progressed...when she came to know about Gopi's character...she is more loving and caring and she is proud of Gopi...

today her screams and yelling at gopi is her anger due to Ahemji...and partly on gopi for deviating Ahemji from his work to resolve her sister's marriage

Koki-Ahemji:
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Coming to being angry on Ahem is not for him being close to Gopi... but Gohem helping RaJi and Ahemji ignoring his work to help them...

she never in her dreams felt Ahemji would hide anything from her... he even married a girl whom he does not love only for his mom,...
when nani left, gopi wanted to leave, but she again forced Ahem to let gopi stay in the house...

She thinks, a son who did the biggest sacrifice of marrying someone and let go of his love for his mom's sake... is hiding things from his mom...this irked her to the core...

When tejas said "Mr.Modi please ask ur wife to accept the gift" Ahemji looks at Koki for approval ... she approves with her eyes... Ahemji tells gopi to take... she looks at koki for approval, and takes it from Tejas...In this scene also to make a decision for his wife he took his mom's approval...

next when he gets sarees for all of them during navrathri ... then both look at koki to seek her approval only then he gives it and she takes it...

so koki is in a secure state that their son and DIL will never do anything without telling her and she is extremely proud of this ...

when things started to turn against her ...recovery time...
during the recovery in the injection...gopi did not get convinced when koki tried but she listened to Ahemji,,, this is her first blow..
next playing ludo, oil massage ... he said he don;t mind getting late shocking koki... Ahemji often used to cut short her sentences in between...
and in the kitchen when gopi was about to fall then she got the hardest hit...

with all these things piled up and added by the hiding the reasons for his being in mandir,..watching movie... helping jigar to give rashi and i think that is the penultimate one and may be Ahemji not attending the client will be the ultimate one

she is seeing that part of life which she never expected and that is being neglected by Ahemji so all this gussa on Ahemji and Gopi in today's episode

@shilpa read ur - true she is going thru a lot and she is not the one to sit and talk...

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