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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: driftingaway

no not really. How have they promoted independence or equality or freedom of speech in anyway? If anything, they are showing some warped perception of how education and knowledge is not of any importance to women (Sandhya being constantly taunted and being subjected to snide remarks for being an educated women in almost every single episode.) Why is her education such a hurdle, why is it being portrayed as a barrier/something negative?
Has Sandhya, the main protagonist of the show, ever told Bhabho to cut it out and attempted to explain the importance of an education, in a firm manner? No. All Sandhya does is make a 'painstricken' expression shed tears, and apologise. Apologise for what exactly? For allowing her parents to equip her with important lifeskills through an education? For wasting her life away by trying to live with uncouth/immoral people like Bhabho? *shrugs shoulders*
Morever, the storyplot is such that now Sandhya has to PROVE that she is worthy of being a daughterinlaw as if being well read makes her inept or something? Im not indian, ive never been to india, ive grown up on bollywood, and wow watching shows like DABH and Pratigya just makes me ponder ... damn India sure is regressive. 😲 So forward technology wise but then they have backward shows like DABH airing on starplus with top viewership. What does that say of the viewers who watch shows like this?
There are so many other shows on starplus that 'claim' to raise social awareness but if anything glamourise things like domestic abuse, polygamy, and now we have DABH that is almost 'anti education'. Have you seen how unrealistic these shows are? Its like all the main protagonists are carbon copies of each other. They are gutless and 'endure' everything as if it is the right thing to do. they're all Tulsi/Parvati/Prerna's! If there is any show that is actually worth watching and attempts to raise social awareness it is Maryada. Unfortunately, shows like Maryada dont get the attention and praise they actually deserve.


Sorry for butting into the middle of the conversation like this, but I just wanted to add my two cents.

There are shows that are regressive, they glamorize physical abuse and stuff, but DABH is certainly not one of them.
Glamorizing is when the wrong thing is shown as right, which is definitely not the case here. Anyone who watches Bhabo's actions can figure out that she's not correct, because the show is portraying her as a bad person, an obstacle to Sandhya's dream. When the creatives start portraying Bhabho as the right/morally correct person in all of this drama, then it would be considered glamorizing.
^I'm not saying the show might not become what you mentioned in the future, but at the moment, it's not regressive. It's the opposite, if you ask me. Because it is definitely raising awareness, it is telling you of a story that depicts a reality, even if exaggerated as hell. It would've been regressive if Bhabo's actions were glorified/glamorized, which is not the case here.
And plus, the show has two sides. One, we have one side where the whole city was proud of Sandhya's achievements, where as Bhabho took it as in insult. Sandhya's parents had encouraged her to study, to get an education so she could be independent, while Bhabho is the complete opposite. I think the show is just trying to show the two kinds of people (the regressive aka bhabo/bhabo's family, and the progressive aka sandhya's family/the city).

^ Once again, I'm not trying to say that Sandhya was right in not speaking up, definitely not. Hell, I was pissed when I saw that she was crying like an idiot the entire time. And what makes it worse is that Suraj is not even supporting her in this. Well, he is..but not as much as he should've been. When he married Sandhya, he took on the responsibility of another person. He should be supporting her truly in all of this, but he's not. I keep changing directions, sorry! okay, back to the original point. I'm just trying to say that the show is not regressive, it's not spreading the wrong message, in my opinion.

Pratigya would be considered regressive, definitely. It wasn't that way in the beginning, but it slowly turned towards another direction somewhere in the duration of the show. The show lost its theme and purpose, after the first two months or so.
Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon would also fall into the list. Actually, that would be the one show that would certainly fall into the regressive/glamorizing list. The main character was physically abused(by the other main character aka the 'love of her life') and yet, there were people who were completely supporting whatever he was doing. Hell, they actually liked that he held her to abusively, because it's "passionate". That, would be glamorizing. When even physical abuse is shown as 'passionate' and desirable, even, then the audience will start thinking that as the truth.

and I definitely agree about the 'all of the protagonists are carbon copies of each other'!! It always feels like I'm watching the same character on screen even if I switch shows :D

p.s. this definitely turned out longer than intended. sorry?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: driftingaway

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She is a hypocrite. Shes allowed her daughter to go into further education but completely abhors the fact that her daughter in law is an educated women. She aspires that her daughter will go into a well off, decent family, and will be treated well, but look at the way she tortures her very own daughter in laws? One word bhabho... Karma!
She lies, she is uncouth, she has very little compassion (saving the groceries was more important than saving a kids life. Really?) and she has no morality.
Sandhya has slowly lost the fire, spark, and spunk she once had within her. She is so desperate to gain Bhabho's approval that she doesnt even speak up anymore. She allows Bhabho to break her time and again, and she does nothing, absolutely nothing.



These three points: so, so true!

Usually, a character grows in the duration of the show, but it is the complete opposite when it comes to Sandhya. She went from a strong, independent girl to a completely vulnerable one. She is suppressing all of the values that were taught to her by her parents and abiding to the values of her new house...which, if you ask me, is complete wrong. A person should not change the way they think because of marriage. Sandhya is not true to herself anymore. Gone is the one that used to preach about her opinions, her ideologies. She's going against everything she was before.
When she voted without getting Bhabo's permission, she apologized to her for not knowing, but stood by her opinion that she did nothing wrong. That was the Sandhya that was supposed to be the main character of the show. I wish she would do the same right now, but alas..that would just be wishful thinking.

Bhabo is very very narrow minded. She hates it when someone questions her upbringing, yet she insults Sandhya's parents every time she does something wrong. She's very biased when it comes to her family. Her family can do no wrong, which imo, is her being completely delusional..but that's another story.

Bhabho's character is developing in the same way Sandhya's is..both at snail's speed. But the difference is, Bhabho is at the same place as she was before, whereas it's the opposite with Sandhya.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillunwritten



These three points: so, so true!

Usually, a character grows in the duration of the show, but it is the complete opposite when it comes to Sandhya. She went from a strong, independent girl to a completely vulnerable one. She is suppressing all of the values that were taught to her by her parents and abiding to the values of her new house...which, if you ask me, is complete wrong. A person should not change the way they think because of marriage. Sandhya is not true to herself anymore. Gone is the one that used to preach about her opinions, her ideologies. She's going against everything she was before.
When she voted without getting Bhabo's permission, she apologized to her for not knowing, but stood by her opinion that she did nothing wrong. That was the Sandhya that was supposed to be the main character of the show. I wish she would do the same right now, but alas..that would just be wishful thinking.

Bhabo is very very narrow minded. She hates it when someone questions her upbringing, yet she insults Sandhya's parents every time she does something wrong. She's very biased when it comes to her family. Her family can do no wrong, which imo, is her being completely delusional..but that's another story.

Bhabho's character is developing in the same way Sandhya's is..both at snail's speed. But the difference is, Bhabho is at the same place as she was before, whereas it's the opposite with Sandhya.

I think the matter is that the filmmakers

attempt to educate young girls in national traditions. The idea of the struggle for rights is only a lure. Next is the old story - the tradition of Indian cinema to educate and form good qualities in young people. The creators wanted to show that a girl should become real woman (in the great sense) first, and only then the officer. I agree with them and understand that it is truth. I like to watch the way Sandy transformed into a real woman. So for this I like this show very much.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: tanind

I think the matter is that the filmmakers
attempt to educate young girls in national traditions. The idea of the struggle for rights is only a lure. Next is the old story - the tradition of Indian cinema to educate and form good qualities in young people. The creators wanted to show that a girl should become real woman (in the great sense) first, and only then the officer. I agree with them and understand that it is truth. I like to watch the way Sandy transformed into a real woman. So for this I like this show very much.


You make a nice point. But what exactly constitutes as a traditional woman? What are good qualities? Bhabho herself doesn't have any characteristics that could be considered good, what gives her the right to judge Sandhya in any way? If the film makers want to educate young children in tradition, they have to have an example in the show that truly is traditional/has good qualities. Out of all the characters in the show, Sandhya(and her bhabhi too, i guess) are the only

One has to keep in mind that 'traditional' could mean different things for different people.

I have to run to class now, but I shall come back later with a better explanation.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ stillunwritten, NITZ?????? Nitya ???????

will put my side here soon , if its Nitya been ages since we crossed path , keep guessing where u met me 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: breezy

@ stillunwritten, NITZ?????? Nitya ???????


will put my side here soon , if its Nitya been ages since we crossed path , keep guessing where u met me 😆



yesss!
I know who you are! JAYA DI! Did you change your username (again?😆) I'm not stalking you, I swear! You're the only one that uses Preity Zinta stuff (from the people I know) :D

and omg yes, it has been so long since we last talked (it was when I quit RBO, which was like a year ago). how are you?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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not only sandhya but im sorry to say even the makers of this show has tricked us in believing that they are giving us dsomething unique, on the lines of how the girls dreams of becoming ips are supported by her hubby. but instead we have been numbered with the most tedious done to death plot of saas bahu saaga, which is giving them trps now, but they keep on with bahabos torturing & loud mouth nonsense & believe me people will stop watching this thrash.

all my friends & cousins who used to eagerly wait for 9pm now dont bothered as they say its the same old saas bahu done to death saga. they were all hooked to see how suraj supports sandhya in realsing her dreams, but here all we see like the previous balaji shows, suraj standing there like a mute watching his mrs getting abused by his evil mother, so how is this coward going to support her with her dream.

how come her childhood dream vanished in to thin air all of a sudden, all the passion & fire has gone to bin & now all we get to see is her weeping & acting like dumb wit doormat. i think the old sandhya needs to resurface otherwise as we seen with the most established shows, that people get bored with the saas bshu saga very quickly, i think the show makers forgetting that they are gaining trps because as they promised us we are waiting, fpor the story to develop & go back to its original platform, but after waiting for 3 to 4 weeks we are still numbered with bahabo thrash then just like my crew the rest of the viewers will find something else to entertain them. this saas bahu thrash has been dragging on for far too long & this sandhya rani needs to speak before get bore to death with her weeping

come on guys behind this show if your reading our viewers then believe us we have been ardent fans of tv shpows for years & seen many shout bite the dust as soon as they get tedious, trps now but destruction later guranteed if you carry on with this bahabo thrash. we want the promised refreshing plot & for god sake make sandhya more stronger asw she was & let her stand up to that evil narrow minded witch bahabo, its getting too much move the plot please, getting tired of sand weeping & all weak. she is a striong woman bring her back please
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillunwritten


You make a nice point. But what exactly constitutes as a traditional woman? What are good qualities? Bhabho herself doesn't have any characteristics that could be considered good, what gives her the right to judge Sandhya in any way? If the film makers want to educate young children in tradition, they have to have an example in the show that truly is traditional/has good qualities. Out of all the characters in the show, Sandhya(and her bhabhi too, i guess) are the only

One has to keep in mind that 'traditional' could mean different things for different people.

I have to run to class now, but I shall come back later with a better explanation.

I would like to clarify. I'm not talking about traditional Indian woman, because I was not even in India. I only know that the tradition began actively to change. I wanted to say that the filmmakers are very clever guys and they cleverly shot film - lecture on education. In the face of Bhabhoo creators show the worst aspects of India's national traditions (they are in every nation) in the face of girls in jeans makers show the worst aspects of Western civilization. They encourage young people to take the best of tradition and of Western civilization, and Sandy as a very good student does it, she takes the best features of different cultures (even she stares as Suraj communicates with people.) and becomes an example of the ideal. She was founded by Europeans, intelligent, and becomes ( not traditional) real woman, that is, a woman who knows how to love everyone and understand all and to build relationships within the family. She can even understand the Bhabhoo's problems and not try to change her, because it's useless, she can only be pitied. Traditions do die very quickly in the modern world (and then everyone starts to regret that the tradition had died so quickly). Then I will not describe what the ideal, everybody decide for themselves. This is my answer to those who criticize Sandy and her behavior.

Edited by tanind - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: omiraja

not only sandhya but im sorry to say even the makers of this show has tricked us in believing that they are giving us dsomething unique, on the lines of how the girls dreams of becoming ips are supported by her hubby. but instead we have been numbered with the most tedious done to death plot of saas bahu saaga, which is giving them trps now, but they keep on with bahabos torturing & loud mouth nonsense & believe me people will stop watching this thrash.

all my friends & cousins who used to eagerly wait for 9pm now dont bothered as they say its the same old saas bahu done to death saga. they were all hooked to see how suraj supports sandhya in realsing her dreams, but here all we see like the previous balaji shows, suraj standing there like a mute watching his mrs getting abused by his evil mother, so how is this coward going to support her with her dream.

how come her childhood dream vanished in to thin air all of a sudden, all the passion & fire has gone to bin & now all we get to see is her weeping & acting like dumb wit doormat. i think the old sandhya needs to resurface otherwise as we seen with the most established shows, that people get bored with the saas bshu saga very quickly, i think the show makers forgetting that they are gaining trps because as they promised us we are waiting, fpor the story to develop & go back to its original platform, but after waiting for 3 to 4 weeks we are still numbered with bahabo thrash then just like my crew the rest of the viewers will find something else to entertain them. this saas bahu thrash has been dragging on for far too long & this sandhya rani needs to speak before get bore to death with her weeping

come on guys behind this show if your reading our viewers then believe us we have been ardent fans of tv shpows for years & seen many shout bite the dust as soon as they get tedious, trps now but destruction later guranteed if you carry on with this bahabo thrash. we want the promised refreshing plot & for god sake make sandhya more stronger asw she was & let her stand up to that evil narrow minded witch bahabo, its getting too much move the plot please, getting tired of sand weeping & all weak. she is a striong woman bring her back please

please, how do you explain

Diya aur Baati Hum continues to hold the first position with a TRP rating of 5.60. All the twists in the tale are definitely engaging the audiences.

something tells me that the filmmakers know better than us the psychology of the audience and did everything correctly.

Edited by tanind - 13 years ago

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