POTD - Betrayal vs Self betrayal - Page 2

@maha - Attraction towards a person and soft corner towards a person is different.

Thanks for the nice poll and topic...

Well TA basically a straight forward guy with some gold char like respecting mom , loving sister , friendship..

But cycle changes...TA cant expect everyone to be like him...All will be changing according to their own circumstances..

Self Betrayal is worst but if a person betray himself for a true friendship for their well being it wont hurt much..But TA poor thing doing sacrifice for a person who has full of lust thoughts..The time when comes for TA to know everything it will be like 1000 ppl stabbing him..

Mother betraying his own son ...I have never heard of this...Only in thendral..

I accept in beginning TA Mom was a nice soul but due to sudha and when charu gave a good affection she was unable to accept the fact that thulasi is her DIL..But she must have thought about her TA...We can see what TA speaks to her in charu climax...

For thulasi she is mentally stable not like TA...So if a wife like thulz is there no betryal will affect TA...

I think people should have their own brains working. Esp. people like TA who think that they know everyhting and always do the right thing. Even when TA knows that his mom does not like Tuls and always wants Charu has her DIL how can he ever believe his mom. He knows that even Lav has changed since she got married and Lav has proved it on several occasions he still believes Lav. I can understand him not believing Sudha as she has been selfish. So I think TA is the biggest betrayer and the BIGGEST LOSER.

Shubba, The way I used 'attract', is confusing and I used that in the way Western psychologists tell. I didn't mean in the sense like attracted to Thulasi and at this moment, The right way of telling is 'For a person who is betraying himself, will have in life other persons who betray him.' That way TA had Joe and anand who betrayed him. His own mom and sis are betraying him. The closest person he has in life is Thulasi again indicating his golden heart. The point I make is why are there not many persons in his life who are loyal to him? And it is because he is betraying himself.

Originally posted by: maha2us

Shubba, The way I used 'attract', is confusing and I used that in the way Western psychologists tell. I didn't mean in the sense like attracted to Thulasi and at this moment, The right way of telling is 'For a person who is betraying himself, will have in life other persons who betray him.' That way TA had Joe and anand who betrayed him. His own mom and sis are betraying him. The closest person he has in life is Thulasi again indicating his golden heart. The point I make is why are there not many persons in his life who are loyal to him? And it is because he is betraying himself.

Hmm, you've written a very interesting and different view. Personally, I think TA doesn't have much loyal people because he is very naive about the people around him. He believes be truthful to him as he is to others just like Thulasi.

Lots of people who are not loyal to him because they see him as an easy tool to get ahead in their own lives. GW using TA for money and prestige, Joseph using TA for money, Anandh using TA for glamourous/pretty wife/lifestyle, and Lavs using TA to ensure her self-worth in luxurious lifestyle.

My point is TA isn't betraying himself but true to himself as he thinks he is being true to the genuine people. His fault is he doesn't know who's genuine and who's not... I think being true to others is first step to being true to oneself, so at least this way one can live without regret such as TA, who has no regrets from his POV.

Ranu, The point is TA is betraying himself without himself knowing that. He definitely likes to be true to others but is he true to himself or is he taking care of himself? What was the need of him to arrange Rs: 4 lakhs when he knows, he has no means of arranging the money by loan? That is the first betrayal of himself. And then he went to the loan sharks all because of the false pride he had because of what Padma said. Why can't he stoop to MM to conquer? Also talking to a top official about that person's fraud activities when his own job is in stake, also is not helping himself. The better choice for him was to keep quiet then and be an example by being a good bank employee. Above all he is now very angry with T. Elders didn't tell vain words when they say anger blinds a person or anger is a double-edged sword with one end pointing to oneself. Being angry itself is betrayal to oneself. Can't he sort out himself seeing why he is so angry with his wife? He again knows GW and Laav betrayed him of four lakhs. He took no action for that. Will Puvi do these things?

Originally posted by: maha2us

Ranu, The point is TA is betraying himself without himself knowing that. He definitely likes to be true to others but is he true to himself or is he taking care of himself? What was the need of him to arrange Rs: 4 lakhs when he knows, he has no means of arranging the money by loan? That is the first betrayal of himself. And then he went to the loan sharks all because of the false pride he had because of what Padma said. Why can't he stoop to MM to conquer? Also talking to a top official about that person's fraud activities when his own job is in stake, also is not helping himself. The better choice for him was to keep quiet then and be an example by being a good bank employee. Above all he is now very angry with T. Elders didn't tell vain words when they say anger blinds a person or anger is a double-edged sword with one end pointing to oneself. Being angry itself is betrayal to oneself. Can't he sort out himself seeing why he is so angry with his wife? He again knows GW and Laav betrayed him of four lakhs. He took no action for that. Will Puvi do these things?

The whole problem is if TA were a bachelor, no body would have been angry because of this trait in him. But because of how he is, his wife is suffering heavily.

Nice POTD.

Originally posted by: vjayam

TA's actions i wont call betrayal as betrayal because as far as he is concerned he is being true to what he genuinely believes. He is not believing something and acting differently.. He knows his mother does not like T but here that is not his main concern. T's actions reg pei has been contradictory to her own nature and this is a matter of concern to him as pei, having been betrayed by TT's marriage , is not one he wants to see being suspected or spoken wrongly to. He sincerely sees her as a true friend and as he told Kanagu, he wants T to be away till pei is safely married...

Kandha vatti matter also has been blown out of proportion due to joseph and pei's betrayal...Otherwise as far as he is concerned, his bank job is a matter of time and till such time he has friends to help, whom he has helped in the past.So TA's actions also hv been in-line with his character . He has always been someone to whom his family and friends play an imp role and he has told T that he wants all family along with wife...So Lav first closely followed by Joseph for me...