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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hema_M

Hey guys am repeating the same point which is according to me again,

In the situations u mentioned above,Thuls din walk out on Tamizh because he was still supporting her,was ready to listen to her and whatever he is not doing now but now at this point he on whom she is relying soo much has ceased to even consider what she is saying,he is not at all ready to lend his ears to what she is trying to say.

@Theiva Akka and Acorrn,
At bangalore she was trying something and when what she was revealed to him in a different way she couldn do anything and the same day she was brought to Chennai even before she could think of something to do.She must have been thinking that he is just listening to Charu and is thinking she is a mentally challenged and by getting her to doctor,he is caring for her.In Chennai when GW was like she has to die and when he kept silent she was shocked to come to know that he doesn't even care if she live or die,he hate her that much.She came to know that he cares for her no more,hates her so much and this is the point where she decided to walk out on him to leave him alone as he wishes.

How can she force herself on someone who hates her?? In MM's case,she was waiting if her father would like her if she stayed and married Vel as he asked but today what point is there in staying when he hates to have her near him??



Hema, that is what i wrote in my earlier posts too. Like you said, she was brought the same day to Chennai, so that she could not do anything. But this decision of leaving him came SO sudden which is new to T's character. That is what me and Acorrn are saying. The Thulasi we know, won't take such a decision of leaving her beloved ones so quickly without really thinking or talking to them. The Thulasi we know would do anything to save her dignity and there she would not even think for a second. That is her character, but not in cases like this. We know that what TA says comes always from his mouth but not from his heart. But whatever T says it comes from her heart. She said to her father, that she won't leave the house whatever may come and very boldly challenged Charu and now left without thinking even if she knows that Charu is behind everything. She knows that TA is caught in that ET's web but still did walk out for a reason which is not convincing enough for a fighter like T. And please tell me, if regretting marrying her means caring too?!

LOL Hema, i don't know how you could accept that a hubby considering his wife as a mental case and agreeing that to a third person (Charu) and a stranger (Keshav) as caring?! How does this mean caring for his wife when he knows his wife very well. How could that be justified? If you think calling her a mental is not that wrong, i would say TA keeping quiet and not supporting her is better than taking her to a psychiatrist. Tell me honestly, how many would have accepted that if you had been in T's shoes that your hubby is willing to take you to counselling after living one year together?! For me there would not be anymore forgiveness if my partner should do that. Such a relationship does not have any meaning!


Let me ask you the same question too Hema. Why can't she wait for TA to see the truth as the truth can be hidden for such a long time. He already sees how his mom is torturing her and how she asked to go her away from his life (GW never said this infront of TA). If she can wait for someone who never loved his baby, his child and daughter and never cared for her and never did anything for her in her whole 20 years of life and above all who only HATED her, why can't she do the the same with TA too?! The point here is she knows that TA is being stupid and is behaving so rudely and heartless because of Charu and her mom whereas her father did not have any of such reasons. If T only wanted and was bold enough, she would have been able to bring out Charu's and GW's intention to her hubby. Didn't she see that he hates her when he said that he regrets marrying her?! For many it would have been the reason to leave their hubbies and not to wait until a pointless reason comes to her support to walk out.


For me it looks almost the same situation like when TA run away seeing Loan Sharks in his house leaving behind his wife with them for his own stupidity. T did the same, she run away from him while her hubby is caught in those ET's (they are not less worse than LS or even more evil than them) hands and suffering as well but again for his own stupidity. I know many may be annoyed with this comment of mine, but i know it is too way exaggerated :P LOL. As always Mr. K used to love, it is T who is suffering for no mistakes of her.

No offence Hema, just wrote down my take on this track and its characters! 🤗
Edited by Theiva - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Thieva - One main point/difference why she did not leave MM's house and why she left TA's house and why the tolerance level of T has come down..or rather why T was in a hurry at this point of time.

1) She had no place to go from MM house until MM started showing his love for his daughter. Later it was MM who took her to his frnd house, where as she knows she can go to her friend's place, though with little hopes or to her MM's house. She almost would have decided to tell her dad after sometime deftly.

2) She was carrying the name "Runaway mom's daughter" and she had to prove it to MM and co till he actually started showing some affection. Now here at TA's place she need not carry any such name from TA, all she got was only affection/love from TA right from the begining, and his sudden change of character has annoyed her so much and that too he keeping quiet before his mom. If someone who was hating her and change for good (someone like MM/Mohan/Pavi) it would not have her much difference if at all they change worst again. But where as D/k and mainly Ta if they react T can never tolerate and that is what happened. She decided that whatever she tries to prove TA will never understand, bcos it was all she started it and when she stresses the same thing again and again, she very well knows that TA will never blv her at all without any proof. C and KP very welll played and made T herself say what happened when T and C stayed together, where as then, if T tries to tell will TA listen?? Deftly not. So like she said , only he has to realise he has trusted wrong ppl and come back to her.
ROFL - though i am not much satisfied with the scenario/screenplay...she should have pointed out his words which hurt her the most after her wedding anniversay. That would have been more than enough.

TA said - I only faced problem and suffered all along the year after marrying her.
T said - she rushed up with her wedding before her education completed.

I somehow feel both these statements came only from their mouth and not from heart. If TA is not acting, he must have said that in a pressure, unable to handle the situation created by the trio along with KP...but i deftly cannot agree him saying this. Earlier once at hsp too (after stabbing) he said he shd nto ahve married her for the troubles she ended up in.
T was super annoyed with TA's behaviour and additionally when Padma fuelled her she got irritated and came out in rush.
Let see how they are going to justify their talks. T's statement was wrt education in front..but TA's??? he said only problems arouse after marrying her?? who invited those problems Mr. TA??? So these reasons seem to make me think/blv that, he is wantedly doing them only.


Edited by shubba - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Deconstructing Thulz, Take 2: Somethings and Nothings

This is not the first time, certainly not the last time that Thulz is/will be facing an identity crisis. Thulz has been questioned [peppered is the right description] all her life about what defines [or rather how she has been defined by others…….up-to age 21, "Runaway Mom's Spawn", now TA questioning her character because she is trying to sully the image of psycho, who is about to marry KP] her as a person, what sets her apart from the rest [grit, patience, perseverance and pristineness of heart].

Thulz's current identity crisis stems from the sense of insecurity and rejection on the part of TA, as she feels of not being "good enough" to meet the challenging situation/problem, [Psycho/KP planning to perfection in hoodwinking TA about their original intent] rather a very grave threat to her very existence leading to an inner turmoil, which has manifested in a shocking/ utter bewilderment response of walking/running away from the problem i.e. thinking that it can be wished away, and somehow the threat of the tornado will blow over itself and "Thendral" will be back.

By running away and not fighting for what is "rightfully" hers is not the transformation that one expected from Thulz. When MM accused her of being "Runaway Mom's Spawn", she dug her heels hankered down taking all the garbage thrown at her with a grain of salt to prove a point to MM. Now the accusation that has been hurled on her is grave and much bigger as TA is under the impression that she is "suspecting the friendship" between psycho and him [although he is acting now], in addition trying to ruin the integrity and reputation of psycho as well as her marriage. With this being the case, how can she call it quits and runaway from TA and the issue??

The other oddity of Thulz's behavior: For girl who was pretty much confined to one room living under the stewardship of MM, gutter wife, TA came as a ray of hope because of whom Thulz felt 'the sunny side of life', driving the darkness that filled her life and replaced it with 'colors of the rainbow' as Thulz discovered simple pleasures of life like laughter and happiness. Such a person is behaving in a moronic way……Thulz is not able to decode, analyze and deal with it knowing fully fell that he is hers sublimely. Instead she ditched him, worse she has been berating him with others to the extent of calling into question the very sanctity of her marriage with TA.

Dark clouds with thunderstorm, twister, and tumult come and go, but they a have silver lining behind them because the sun or moon is shining. Likewise, T'n'TA need to face the tempest as an unit by digging deeper and staying true to their inherent goodness and true desires while leaving the comfort zone and expand their boundaries. And this too will come to pass as there has to be dawn…..to toodles.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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No offence taken Theiva Akka,what is there to get offenced? we r jus discussing

ok coming to the matter.I dunno how else to say but I still stand by my point.It all depends on perspective.

I am just saying she has tolerated so many insults from Tamizh alone likewise she tolerated when he said she is mental coz even when he believed she is mental according to Thuls he was not letting her go,he thought bout her(thats what I called 'caring' ...ok I admit thats not the appropriate word...am not that good in choosing words,forgive me) but only when he was silent when GW told she could die it was revealed to her that he hates her so much that he doesn't want her at all.

I mean we can tolerate our loved one's insults but one can never tolerate his hate.Knowing that he hates her,she cannot force herself upon him so she left him.

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