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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you Lakshmi for the superb update.. 🤗

Thulasi's trust was awesome.. Her dialogs about Studies and her true belief on TA was too good..
When Thulasi said she was feeling to die.. was sad 😭.. Awesome acting by Shruthi..👏 !! Mohan going to fight and Lav's mishap and TA thinking bad of Thulasi again.. and more problems for Thulasi from every side..

By the way Pavi, when Padma was talking good about Thulasi was very confused and may be she is the one who is going to sense that there is something fishy in her talks.. Lets see.. But this is not going to happen before Thulasi's torture.. 😭

Lav's thimir makes that mishap, but the blame goes on Thulasi.. 😔

@Everyone: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2012 to all of you..!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@thieva
You had said " your Mil tortures you took up" about T. Did you mean her wanting to move with Gw Sudha and Puvi despite warning from Ta? That move was bold and courageous and showing faith. T trusts Ta's love for her but rightfully she does not trust his judgement of characters and choices he makes. Glaring examples being Dharman and Kanduvatti loaners. She felt he will be better off if under the guidance of his family even though Gw hates her. She believed she will do the right thing for Ta. It is a very positive thing to have trust and hope for the mother of your beloved to change. But Gw proved to be lowest creature on earth. You can not blame T for it. She used what ever she had in her power. So please don't blame the victim for the misdeeds of the criminal Ta.
Pouring your heart out to the closest is not cowardice. But crying in front of the offenders all the time with out having Any ammunition and the guts to leave is spineless. Even great warriors like Gingis Khan ran away from the battle when he knew he will be squashed. Later on he accumulated strength and power and destroyed th enemy.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Like Vijayam or someone said here only if Thuls isn't with Tamizh charu can come out freely.Else she would've continued to plan to torture Thuls and act as all lovey-dovey in front of Tamizh and the story will never move.
And regarding Thuls moving out,may be she thought the same thing,I mean by walking out charu will come out and Tamizh will understand her and Thuls is confident that Tamizh would never marry Charu.As she said its no use fighting them even if she continues to stay Tamizh would dislike her more day by day,her MIL will continue to stab her with words and there will absolutely no one for her.And one Tamizh might've sent her to MM house and that would have been worst as Tamizh's character would be totally damaged.Staying in MMs house she was trying to prove that she is not like her mom but by staying in Tamizh's house its going to be of no use.She knows very well that only he himself can understand and that it can happen only if Charu opens her mouth(she told this once).So considering all this she walked out so that Charu will stop thinking of Thuls and Tamizh would understand her.

In MM's house,the case was different.Right from her birth she was being tortured but here the case is different,the one who is her soulmate is itself hating her and thats very difficult to tolerate and by trying to make him understand he is disliking her more so thats why she walked out not coz she is not trusting their love or coz she can't jus tolerate her MIL or anything.Coz if she was afraid of her MIL's torture she wouldn have moved into her MIL's house in first place...at that time Tamizh was supporting her but now even her husband is not supporting on which she was relying and based on which she was tolerating everything(not jus now,even when Tamizh was hospitalized).So when her hubby itself is hating how can she stay there? thats she walked out.This is my point of view.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hema, What you said is a beautiful point. It will be good to see if the story unfolds this way.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jan50

@thieva,

T has taken more than enough non sense from her husband and in laws and outsiders. How do you expect her to stay there with no one on her side. TA has become her enemy now. Where does she have resources to prove Chaaru is bad? In that house she can not be even sure of a meal. She knows Ta loves her and she trusts him, but that alone is not enough. Where is the respect for her?. She knows that Ta's job is shady. initially she had Sudha's support. Not any more. She is right in thinking she married Ta in a hurry. If Ta can say he regretted marrying her, can't she at least feel this rightfully. She is not a robot to have no emotions and act like a machine taking all insults. She is after all a young girl.can any of us face what T is facing in a bolder way. The boldest thing she did was to leave that evil house knowing very well she has no comfortable piranda veedu like Sudha or Chaaru or La. If she did not leave that house that would be cowardly and spineless like lot of woman have no guts to,leave an abusive husband . Here Ta is down right abusive though he claims he loves T. Lot of wife beaters and abusers claim they love their wives. What Ta is going thru is a temporary state. At least let us hope so.





Jan, all i am saying is that it was out of T's character to walk out of TA's life without any strong reason (at that situation which lead to her decision). According to me she should have walked out of his life already in banglore. There she had a very strong reason. Her hubby accepted others (Charu and her partner in crime) calling her a mental and almost took her to a psychiatrist. But she refused and still did not decide to leave him. Did then her hubby support her?! NO! Why did not she leave then?! What else can be more worse than her own hubby considering her to be a mental case?! Like yourself mentioned, TA mentioned that he regrets marrying her. Already then she should have left him for good. If she had done that time, i would have been happy and convinced with the reason for her walking out of TA's life. But she did not and kept quiet eventhough she said she is not mental. So was she just waiting so that she reaches a level of saturation (like Shubba Akka said) to leave him while ignoring his earlier tortures to her which were way too worse than now he keeping quiet when her MIL taunted her?! I never meant to say she shold not leave him, i already commented in the beginning that she should walk out of that hell-house as he turned into her villain. It is only that the reason that is not enough convincing for me. You might think all the reasons i mentioned above lead to her decision which is true and i see that this way too. But T waiting for TA to support her and shut his mom's mouth and not seeing any reaction from his side, she in just few minutes packed her things and left him. LOL this kind of sounds funny and again i am saying it is not her character. If TA did the same like T, i would have been convinced. Exactly like Shubba Akka said, she should have questioned him left and right and mentioned all the tortures she went through and then left him. She did not even talk to him and left. She just mentioned her hubby keeping quiet as the main reason for her decision, but nothing more. This is where i am not convinced and hence saying it is unlike T's character.
Edited by Theiva - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jan50

@thieva

You had said " your Mil tortures you took up" about T. Did you mean her wanting to move with Gw Sudha and Puvi despite warning from Ta? That move was bold and courageous and showing faith. T trusts Ta's love for her but rightfully she does not trust his judgement of characters and choices he makes. Glaring examples being Dharman and Kanduvatti loaners. She felt he will be better off if under the guidance of his family even though Gw hates her. She believed she will do the right thing for Ta. It is a very positive thing to have trust and hope for the mother of your beloved to change. But Gw proved to be lowest creature on earth. You can not blame T for it. She used what ever she had in her power. So please don't blame the victim for the misdeeds of the criminal Ta.
Pouring your heart out to the closest is not cowardice. But crying in front of the offenders all the time with out having Any ammunition and the guts to leave is spineless. Even great warriors like Gingis Khan ran away from the battle when he knew he will be squashed. Later on he accumulated strength and power and destroyed th enemy.



You got it the way i meant to say with that sentence. I agree she trusted TA's love and hence insisted to move to that house and she is not happy either with the way her hubby judges people around him. But please, don't tell me that T expected her MIL to change once she and TA move to that house. Even TA knows that his mother's attitude towards T will never change and and even T deep inside her knows her MIL will never change towards as long as Charu is there. She just convinced TA that his mom would change and accept her so that he agrees to move to that house. She was hoping for Sudha's support there, but sadly it did not turn out the way she thought. Would not have been wrong to work for Sudha and PA while living on their own, when she knows that GW thinks that she chased her away from her son's house. It was a haste decision to move that house.

Yes agreed, what did T do then she her MIL starved her?! Crying and begging her MIL to give her food if she had all the ways to talk against her and get the food. But she pitied herself and waited the whole day until MM came. I don't see any bold T here. By then she had TA and Sudha's support. She could have handled her MIL, but all she did was to cry to her father. This heroine opens her mouth then and then to talk against the people who are her wellwishers like Patti, Deepa and TA (not anymore really), but won't open her mouth to put a evil creature on her right place. Why the need to give her the respect if she does not need any and her hubby has nothing against it either. He expected her to fight against his mom too knowing her character. But she did not do that. I am waiting this heroine to open her mouth and ask her MIL all kind of questions for which she needs an answer.


I think my posts do let you think that i am supporting TA, i am not defending him and i will never do that. I am equally dislking the hero and the heroine of this show in this track. I am just telling things which make me think T is not the T i used to see. Both of them seem unlike their characters which is not convincing enough for viewers (i guess except for you in T's case!). Agreed they are having their flaws etc which seem to be like in real life, but this stupidity and cowardice both of them show then and then does make think they don't really fit to be hero and heroine. I wish it had been Deepa LOL.
Edited by Theiva - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thulz during this current strife between T'n'TA has gone the extraaa mile, no two ways about it. She wanted to make her marriage with TA work and was willing to do anything to ensure that there is no verbal duel and spat between them so much so that they were not even in proper taking terms. So, when TA asked her to choose [ @ the insistence of psycho] between coming with him or her education, she chose to forgo her education in an effort to make her marriage with TA work and also try get transferred to an engg school in her new place.

This is the quality of Thulz –"When the going gets tough, the tough get going" and her ability to see through the problem – "Instead of looking @ glass half empty" she has the ability read the situation as the "Glass is half full" and take pragmatic efforts to make the glass full i.e, work within the system to find an amiable solution using her grit, supreme patience, perseverance and above all with pristineness of heart.

Her sudden decision to walk away from TA [even-though TA is "acting"] is completely "Unlike Thulz", considering her track record of working her way out of tough situation by swimming against the tide, an experience that TA doesn't have….her presence would have made a big difference. By running away @ this very point doesn't jive well. If she had wanted she could have done so @ several points earlier, including when moronic TA had pawned her with loan sharks or when he asked her to come along with him for counseling session for her erratic & possessive behavior.

Her tirade against TA like: TA has started to believe cowards and turncoats, it was mistake to marry him, TA cheated her, got tired marrying him, he has no faith in her, TA is not a good husband, lost all the confidence in his ability, TA has ditched her……unlike Thulz. While one can cut some slack to Thulz as the "kid" is under duress, yet it is unbecoming of her. Is this her real assessment of TA…if so it is better for her to call it quits? As she said TA will never leaver her for anyone….then why did she walk-out on him. It is really sad that she couldn't decode that TA's current behavior is an aberration and that he is acting.

T'n'TA's relationship was built to last and set to sail the seven seas. The ebb & flow of relationships is always changing, and wanted them to weather all the storms that will come their way as unit. Sadly the relationship that had lot of punctuated comma, now has a full stop. In marriage and relationships, it easy to cut and run…..but it takes a lot of effort to make things work. Hope T'n'TA together save psycho.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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So many opinions and veried comments about this track is really interesting..Just thought wud add my take of the track .

To me the hero and heroine are not portrayed life size here though some instances do take them to a diff height. Her the only quality that both share and that has bought them together is their inherent goodness, one to the extent to helping others without a second thought abt its pros and cons and one just by being a well-wisher and meaning the best even for her worst wishers. They dont have the ability to see thru people unless the black and white are clearly demarcated and in this case both upto now, though each holding to their ideals are behaving like any normal couple wud do. and that cud be an eyeopener to several such couples,where misunderstandings take place just like this. Here at the bottom of this though both are seeing different view of the same picture, both are sure of one thing- the love the other has for him and her. Here lies the difference. Sudha and deepa may handle GW differently, by talking back but both at the end of the day will not be able to change or win her over. Sudha has effectively shut up gw several times but she has not earned her place yet in that house.
The next few weeks may see us witnessing all that cud possible wrong in TT's with interventions from the likes of padma, lavanya, gw, pei of course, mohan etc, each making the issue more complicated. But if vels case is anything to go by, the CT is capable of coming out this skilllfully created chakravyuh and I am waiting for that.
I want to see what this holds for a couple who have nothing going for them except their inherent goodness but are allowed their momentary weaknesses, a couple that is not screen smart to just force their way out of any probs, but simple people who cud be taken for a ride by all and sundry and how their sincerity to their cause helps them come out of it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@accorn
Regarding T's tirades against TA , she did not say it was a mistake to marry Ta , but it probably was a mistake to rush into marriage with out the approval of Gw. She once mentioned this fact to Mohan also when he expressed his love for K. TA over heard part of he conversation and was boiling with anger.T Stated exactly what she perceived and her perception about Ta, Gw and Chaaru was spot on. Un
Ike Ta's perception of T And Chaaru in this matter. He went to extent of calling her selfish, arrogant and uncompromising. nothing T ever uttered in this serial was wrong or untrue so far.
So I can not find any fault with T except that she is too good and compromising. Her only fault is she is not like Sudha or Deepa.
I can cut some slack for both of them namely T and Ta that they are very young and still learning the lessons of life. Unfortunately before that they are facing way too many problems due to relatives,outsiders and Ta's gullibility.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey guys am repeating the same point which is according to me again,

In the situations u mentioned above,Thuls din walk out on Tamizh because he was still supporting her,was ready to listen to her and whatever he is not doing now but now at this point he on whom she is relying soo much has ceased to even consider what she is saying,he is not at all ready to lend his ears to what she is trying to say.

@Theiva Akka and Acorrn,
At bangalore she was trying something and when what she was revealed to him in a different way she couldn do anything and the same day she was brought to Chennai even before she could think of something to do.She must have been thinking that he is just listening to Charu and is thinking she is a mentally challenged and by getting her to doctor,he is caring for her.In Chennai when GW was like she has to die and when he kept silent she was shocked to come to know that he doesn't even care if she live or die,he hate her that much.She came to know that he cares for her no more,hates her so much and this is the point where she decided to walk out on him to leave him alone as he wishes.

How can she force herself on someone who hates her?? In MM's case,she was waiting if her father would like her if she stayed and married Vel as he asked but today what point is there in staying when he hates to have her near him??
Edited by Hema_M - 13 years ago

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