INTERVIEW MUSIC COMPOSER : Life beyond Dhoom |
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It is slow, emotional music in an era when fast music works - that was the charm and the challenge in doing this film. I am very eager to see if these melodies, all of which are very close to my heart, remain popular for a long while. I am happy that everyone from 14 to 40 have loved the music. Gangster is also the first film from Mukesh Bhatt since Tumsa Nahin Dekha with a single music director and no Pakistani track!! It was a great experience working with the Bhatts, who are extremely musical, and with my old friend from Kolkata, Anurag Basu, a buddy whom I would trust with my life. You even featured in the video.
Yes, and that is something I would like to clarify on record. I did it for Anurag. I do not intend to make it a habit, and I was a bit surprised when I got so much negative feedback! But if there is no Pakistani track, there is a Bengali one. What was the need to adapt 'Bheegi bheegi...'?
Actually this is a song by the late Gautam Chattopadhyaya, who is considered the father of Bengali rock and bands. I would love his songs and had a band myself then, and would also sing the original of 'Bheegi bheegi...'. Interestingly the original was also reworked in a '90s Jackie Shroff film that I cannot recollect right away. When Anurag explained the brief using the song as an example I asked him why we cannot work on 'Bheegi bheegi...' itself? So we took the rights and I developed it - the antaras are entirely mine. In fact I have worked the hardest on this song, because it is of nostalgic value to me. It was like old, fun times with my college friends and band members. I would love to know what they think of my version! There is an impression, based on trends today, that 'Bheegi bheegi...' is James' song.
That is something that I would like to set straight - James is just the singer of this song. Because he is from Bengal there is an impression that I have bought the rights from him. Anurag is a college friend and very much into music. He wanted a very fresh approach to a rock song. He made me listen to James on a CD. I confess that I did not much like his voice. But Mukesh (Bhatt)-ji has this thing about new voices - he will go to any extent for them. (Mahesh) Bhatt-saab also liked the voice, so I decided to go ahead. In fact, all three of them wanted James to sing 'Tu hi meri shab hai...' as well. But I thought that the rock element in his vocals was too strong, which ironically made James perfect for 'Bheegi bheegi...'. The softness, soul and emotions needed for 'Tu hi meri shab hai...'were something that only KK could have put in. Almost all the music directors of today sing off and on, some like Himesh very frequently now. Why don't you?
Let me make a categorical statement - I will never become a singer! Why are you so determined about this?
I am sure because I am not a technically good singer. Yes, I have done back-up vocals and harmony and done scratch recordings. And once again coming to Pakistani songs you have adapted one in Fight Club.
When Sohail Khan liked the original of 'Chhore ki baatein...' I suggested we buy the rights from Ali Zafar and give him due credit on the album and in the film's credits. I had slightly modified the song and brought in Amit Kumar when I thought that Ali was not giving me exactly what I wanted with respect to the film's needs. Ali had no objection - when he heard Amit sing he told me that he couldn't have sung it as well. What made you think of Amit Kumar - the contrast between his deep voice and Shweta Pandit's youthful one made the song take on a new dimension?
Amit Kumar is always in my mind, but he needs to be a little more pro-active. My ex-partner Jeet and I gave his younger brother Sumeet his debut song in Mudda - The Issue. Amit is like a god in expression, because like his father he acts out a song And the throw and punch in his voice is something that far more popular singers cannot match. But whenever you want to acknowledge or take rights for a song that isn't yours, is it easy, and more important, are you allowed to do so?
It is easy, but difficult too. The problem varies from case to case and there have been some examples where I would have preferred doing things the right way but it wasn't possible. Anu Malik says that his best music is for either filmmakers who know a lot of music or for those who do not know anything at all about music. Would you agree?
That's absolutely true. Because so many filmmakers think that they know music, but do not. That's exactly what he said.
I cannot give names, but there is a filmmaker who rejected better tunes than those that were finally used. Those from among them that went into other films became hits. You seem to be a fixture now with Pritish Nandy Communications.
Rongita is a very musical person and very open to innovative things. But they are making so many films now that one music director cannot work on all of them. After Ek Khiladi Ek Haseena I have now completed Ankahee and Pyaar Ke Side Effects and am working on Meghna Gulzar's Honeymoon. But Ankahee hasn't quite made the same kind of impact as Gangster.
I don't know why that is so. Melody-wise, I think that Ankahee is one of my best. I have been living with these songs for a long while and I am dying to see them on screen. I am sure that since they are situational songs they will pick up with the film. How has the working experience with the two Gulzars been?
Oh, it's been a deadly experience. The RD connection helped because I am such a big fan of Pancham-da. In the first sitting I was quite in awe of Gulzar-saab. His words make a tune bloom and the music director strangely realizes the true potential of his own tune when that happens! Meghna of course is extremely particular. I remember her telling me that she would take me on - after Rongita recommended me - only if she liked my work. After the sitting she told me that my tunes were nice, but not good enough for us to work together. I nodded quietly and she burst out laughing and said,"Relax! We are working together!"
And Priyadarshan too seems to be hooked on you. Now that's another man I am in awe of. I was in awe at the time of Garam Masala and I am still like that with him. He is a hardcore situational man, like Subhash (Ghai)-ji with whom I am doing Apna Sapna Money Money. Priyadarshan's songs have to be tailor-made to his script and he is a man of instant decisions. He's a super person too. Pirates is a very challenging assignment as the story revolves around music piracy. I have also done some unusual work for Bhagam Bhag in which I have tried to bring the different tenors of humour between Akshay Kumar and Govinda on a common platform in the two songs they have together. I have used a Calypso-Latino style in one of them.
Will Dhoom 2 better Dhoom? The biggest baggage that Dhoom 2 will carry is of its predecessor. If Dhoom and Dhoom 2 had released together as albums, Dhoom 2 would have been called better music. Adi (Aditya Chopra) told me that we must not even try to match or surpass that music but remain as honest to the new film as we were to the earlier. He always believes that every song, score and film have a destiny that cannot be shaken. Everything just falls into place when something is destined to work big-time - the lyrics, the tune, the orchestration and singing and even the way a song is filmed and the success of a film. Like a song like 'Falak dekhoon...' (Garam Masala) suffered because just one factor went against it - the situation was so unimportant to the main plot.
Nowadays labels are brandished even by those who do not understand them - like hip-hop, R & B, ethno-folk and Calypso-Latino that you mentioned. What are they all about? They all refer to the sound palette. The melody has to be in sync with the kind of music Hindi films have always had, and the songs also have to go with the film. In Ek Khiladi Ek Haseena, for example, the songs are all situational but in terms of sound they are all dance tracks.
You have recorded with Asha Bhosle in the cult hit 'Sharara...'. When will Lata Mangeshkar happen? In films, let us see. But I have already recorded a song with Lata-ji for a TV serial whose name I cannot remember - I am so bad at recalling these names!
How was your experience with the two sisters? It was awesome. You don't have to tell them anything more than the bare minimum. Then as a music director, you just watch them explore your song the way you never thought possible, even know when we record on tracks! Asha-ji for example made each 'Sharara' different from the other.
Do you feel that any of today's singers can show this quality with the passage of time? Do you feel that any of today's singers can show this quality with the passage of time?
Sonu Nigam does it even today. That is why I feel that he will grow into a legend like Kishore-da and Rafi-saab.
One last query. Today, a lot of new music directors make headway by forming a bond with top-rung actors. Isn't that good for moving ahead fast?
I guess it is. But I think for that a couple of your films together should work big-time, unless an actor himself is your godfather like Salman Khan is for Himesh Reshammiya. Speaking of myself, both my major hits, Dhoom and Garam Masala had John Abraham! (Smiles).