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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: devashree_h

Even I know a case where one sister gave her first born to her other sister. The kid grew up in America. The first sister had two other kids who knew their elder biological brother was with their maasi.



I know a case like that too where one sister give her third born daughter to her sister because her sister could not conceive. After adoption the sister moved to another country but once the baby turned 3 and started talking on the phone with them and stuff and they saw her pictures the biological parents are fighting to get their daughter back. They are saying that they made a mistake and they want her back. Even though in the beginning the sister was thinking of abortion because she thought 2 is enough but the other sister begged her to have the baby and give it to her. But now apparently motherhood has kicked in and she wants her kid back. Now even though they are in different countries as soon as the baby turns 7 and 8 one of the relatives or the biological parents themselves will tell her the truth and then she will resent both her 4 parents and probably be miserable forever. thats why giving babies in family is not a good idea most of the time.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: jassi81

in today's world, how could they not show other options such as surrogacy, going to fertility clinic, artificial insemination etc.

They just jumped to the giving the baby topic!! also, maybe Mona being Sweetys sister could have done this instead of Hetal. This would cause less problem.




I know plus parmeet's parents want their own blood and there is nothing wrong with parmeet and they are rich so why don't they just get a surrogate and do artificial insemination. That way it will be their own blood so his parents will accept the baby and sweety and then sweety will get to raise the baby as her own. Because this way parmeet's own parents might tell karan and hetal's baby about his real birth parents.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Yesterday I typed my personal experience with adoption in the family.
I have two sons and we always craved and wanted a girl but knew no matter how many times we tried it would be a boy so we decided 2 was enough for us..My MIL and SIL (Nanad) both tried us in adopting My eldest Nanad's grand daughter (Our nephew's first born)..They had one daughter and one son living in small town in India not so well to do..And us in US just started making it.. ILs did not even bother asking the parents if they wanted their daughter given away to Mama-mi for adoption 😳Some of ILs even went to the extent of saying we had some defects not to be able to have a girl child I was strongly against for adoption within the family and my resons..
1. It was not like I could not have my own biological child. If I wanted to we could have tried..If we wanted a girl so desperately we could have adopted thru long Adoption process..
2. I dont want any future problems regarding money-inheritance when it comes to my kids VS relatives suddenly want a share as their child is adopted by us...Somewhat feeling of an obligation to keep them happy financially..
I dont like to mix business with pleasure..So We denied this proposition and initially was not perceived well by ILs but later on I guess they gave up after 2 yrs..
We are happy & satisfied with our 2 sons and extremely blessed with a first Grand child being a girl..after 33 yrs in the family we have a daughter and a rakhi was celebrated in the family after 35 yrs..I wrote this post yesterday but lost it due to issues with IF getting signed off for no reason..
It is less harder to consider giving up 4th or 5th child than giving up first one...Giving up first or 2nd born is absolutely ludicrist IMHO...Especially if they are boy and a girl..I give credit to those who give their child for adoption in the family and keep that promise good...Bigger heart than I would have...I am more practical than emotional..
I would do anything for my children god forbid if could not carry or have their child, including being a surrogate mother just to give them a parenthood.
Not sure why Serials dont look into other options as fertility, Invitro, Surrogacy..Just jump to giving up a baby to solve the problem..Grrr
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Posted: 14 years ago
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India has more than billion people all human beings are inter-related, one big family. Even if Karan gives his child to a sister, the child is being raised by the family member, who is very loving.

Among relatives I believe in open adoption, child should know his biological siblings and parents plus live with their adoptive parents. The child will get love of everybody. I am sure child raised in loving environment will become a very loving adult. This is win win for everybody.

I read a true story in which a boy born in a poor single mom is adopted by a middle class family, they allow the boy to visit his biological mom in summer vacation, The boy is very well balanced and attached to his adopted mom. All this advice not letting the child know the truth is very detrimental, insecure and not in the best interest of the child.

In my opinion this will work very well if everybody is honest and upfront. The child is allowed to visit his biological parents and biological siblings. Sweety is sacrificing a lot by raising Hetal's child as her own. Hetal's child is recipient of all her love and attention.

P.S. Even if Sweety doesn't have a child it would not make difference in billion population..she can devote her time in working for the benefit of slum children, educated them and helping the needy..we need the serial to show this kind of trend not just self centred view of the world.
Edited by April2007 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: April2007

India has more than billion people all human beings are inter-related, one big family. Even if Karan gives his child to a sister, the child is being raised by the family member, who is very loving.


Among relatives I believe in open adoption, child should know his biological siblings and parents plus live with their adoptive parents. The child will get love of everybody. I am sure child raised in loving environment will become a very loving adult. This is win win for everybody.

I read a true story in which a boy born in a poor single mom is adopted by a middle class family, they allow the boy to visit his biological mom in summer vacation, The boy is very well balanced and attached to his adopted mom. All this advice not letting the child know the truth is very detrimental, insecure and not in the best interest of the child.

In my opinion this will work very well if everybody is honest and upfront. The child is allowed to visit his biological parents and biological siblings. Sweety is sacrificing a lot by raising Hetal's child as her own. Hetal's child is recipient of all her love and attention.

P.S. Even if Sweety doesn't have a child it would not make difference in billion population..she can devote her time in working for the benefit of slum children, educated them and helping the needy..we need the serial to show this kind of trend not just self centred view of the world.



I agree with you hiding the truth even after the child is an adult is not right. However telling them too soon is not good either. I think they should always show him the biological parents pictures and stuff so they know them and when they are old enough not 18 but like 10 they can slowly tell the truth.

My mom's aunt couldn't have kids so she adopted two boys and devoted her entire life to them. they weren't family. the older one had very poor parents and they didn't want to raise him but he grew up with love and became a doctor. However a relative told him the truth that he was adopted when was like in his early 20s and then he just couldn't get it over his head so he went to his real parents who were well off now and had other kids and asked why they didn't keep him they said that they just didnt want him and they are not his parents the ones that raised him are and he should go back to him which caused him lots of rejection. So basically now he resents both his biological and adoptive parents.

So i think an easy transition is better. But if you are all living in the same house it is not just about the child it is also about the mother. We all know sweety will be an amazing mom and will put her life to save the child but think about how hetal might feel weak at times and would want to go to her son. Plus they might plan to hide the true parentage from the baby, but in this family bejal or sejal or mostly parmeet's parents might tell him the truth.

I also think if sweety really wants a baby she should adopt a orphan baby and then devote her time to save kids and maybe open an orphanage.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't know..I am a mom..and I can't even imagine these things..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with you hiding the truth even after the child is an adult is not right. However telling them too soon is not good either. I think they should always show him the biological parents pictures and stuff so they know them and when they are old enough not 18 but like 10 they can slowly tell the truth.

My mom's aunt couldn't have kids so she adopted two boys and devoted her entire life to them. they weren't family. the older one had very poor parents and they didn't want to raise him but he grew up with love and became a doctor. However a relative told him the truth that he was adopted when was like in his early 20s and then he just couldn't get it over his head so he went to his real parents who were well off now and had other kids and asked why they didn't keep him they said that they just didnt want him and they are not his parents the ones that raised him are and he should go back to him which caused him lots of rejection. So basically now he resents both his biological and adoptive parents.

So i think an easy transition is better. But if you are all living in the same house it is not just about the child it is also about the mother. We all know sweety will be an amazing mom and will put her life to save the child but think about how hetal might feel weak at times and would want to go to her son. Plus they might plan to hide the true parentage from the baby, but in this family bejal or sejal or mostly parmeet's parents might tell him the truth.

I also think if sweety really wants a baby she should adopt a orphan baby and then devote her time to save kids and maybe open an orphanage.


Thanks for sharing ...

There are many instances in the West that kids find out they were adopted when they are adults they get a little shock but in the end they are fine and consider their adopted parents as real parents and the birth parents as friends or somebody they like to know or may not want to know.


Steve Jobs (founder of Apple computers) is a good example his mum gave him up for adoption, he knew that he is adopted but only refers to biological parents as his parents, he is close to his biological sister, but not to his biological parents. He is a genius, he has not suffered at all..

If the kids grow up with the fact that they are adopted they have no problem but if they are told when they are old they are shocked. Hiding the truth is never a good idea...

Hetal's kid is very much alive and part of the family and raised by the family member..giving to a stranger may be hard but to a loving family member is not a big deal. Raising a kid is not easy...many mothers neglect and abuse their kids (not every mother is noble and has heart of gold..just because somebody is a mum doesn't mean they are the best person to raise the kid ...this is nothing to do with Hetal, i am sure she would be good mum)...

If I were Sweety I would never ever adopt Karan and Hetal's child..It is a thankless job...you do all this sacrifices and raise a child and in the end it is the parents who will become Mahan, it is equally hard to raise somebody's else's child...not worth it..Sweety should do social service benefiting poor children.
Edited by April2007 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks for sharing ...

There are many instances in the West that kids find out they were adopted when they are adults they get a little shock but in the end they are fine and consider their adopted parents as real parents and the birth parents as friends or somebody they like to know or may not want to know.


Steve Jobs (founder of Apple computers) is a good example his mum gave him up for adoption, he knew that he is adopted but only refers to biological parents as his parents, he is close to his biological sister, but not to his biological parents. He is a genius, he has not suffered at all..

If the kids grow up with the fact that they are adopted they have no problem but if they are told when they are old they are shocked. Hiding the truth is never a good idea...

Hetal's kid is very much alive and part of the family and raised by the family member..giving to a stranger may be hard but to a loving family member is not a big deal. Raising a kid is not easy...many mothers neglect and abuse their kids (not every mother is noble and has heart of gold..just because somebody is a mum doesn't mean they are the best person to raise the kid ...this is nothing to do with Hetal, i am sure she would be good mum)...

If I were Sweety I would never ever adopt Karan and Hetal's child..It is a thankless job...you do all this sacrifices and raise a child and in the end it is the parents who will become Mahan, it is equally hard to raise somebody's else's child...not worth it..Sweety should do social service benefiting poor children.


Thats a good example. But for me personally if i find out rite now that i was adopted and that my birth parents were fully capable of raising me but gave me up just to be mahan and because my dad loved his sister and then they had other kids and kept them, i would be pretty pissed off.

Thats why i think if the parents cannot raise a kid then fine give it up for adoption but karan and hetal are fully capable so they should just keep their child and let sweety adopt another kid. And look at how happy sweety is already, just imagine if they change their mind during birth or even worse a month or a year after seeing the baby with sweety. Sweety will be devastated and might never come out of the depression.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks for sharing ...

There are many instances in the West that kids find out they were adopted when they are adults they get a little shock but in the end they are fine and consider their adopted parents as real parents and the birth parents as friends or somebody they like to know or may not want to know.


Steve Jobs (founder of Apple computers) is a good example his mum gave him up for adoption, he knew that he is adopted but only refers to biological parents as his parents, he is close to his biological sister, but not to his biological parents. He is a genius, he has not suffered at all..

If the kids grow up with the fact that they are adopted they have no problem but if they are told when they are old they are shocked. Hiding the truth is never a good idea...

Hetal's kid is very much alive and part of the family and raised by the family member..giving to a stranger may be hard but to a loving family member is not a big deal. Raising a kid is not easy...many mothers neglect and abuse their kids (not every mother is noble and has heart of gold..just because somebody is a mum doesn't mean they are the best person to raise the kid ...this is nothing to do with Hetal, i am sure she would be good mum)...

If I were Sweety I would never ever adopt Karan and Hetal's child..It is a thankless job...you do all this sacrifices and raise a child and in the end it is the parents who will become Mahan, it is equally hard to raise somebody's else's child...not worth it..Sweety should do social service benefiting poor children.


Thats a good example. But for me personally if i find out rite now that i was adopted and that my birth parents were fully capable of raising me but gave me up just to be mahan and because my dad loved his sister and then they had other kids and kept them, i would be pretty pissed off.

Thats why i think if the parents cannot raise a kid then fine give it up for adoption but karan and hetal are fully capable so they should just keep their child and let sweety adopt another kid. And look at how happy sweety is already, just imagine if they change their mind during birth or even worse a month or a year after seeing the baby with sweety. Sweety will be devastated and might never come out of the depression.

If I was adopted, for me the people who raised (rich or poor) will be my parents regardless of the reason why I was adopted. I have co-worker whose husband is an adopted child and he has no desire to meet his birth parents...the people who raised the only parents he wants to know, he perfectly happy with his adopted family, he doesn't want to know his birth parents.

Human baby need to bond with a caregiver, whoever the baby bonds with are his parents, without bonding the biological parents mean nothing. I see no reason that baby would care, if done decently, the child will end with two set of parents and siblings.

Btw, Karan wants to have his sister raise not because he is Mahan, but because he is very compassionate person and also he knows she is a very loving and decent person, the child will be pretty lucky to have such a loving mother. If Sweety was mean or stupid then it would be a different story..

Btw, Steve Jobs biological father is a Professor and mother a graduate student..his adoptive parents are not even school graduates, but they were good people, who raised him with lots of love.

Human being do lots of things out of care and compassion. Knowing that the child will be part of the family this is a very compassionate thing to do..it has nothing to do with Mahan. Actually Sweety will be raising their genetic child, it will never be her genetic off spring...raising a child is lots of work ..I will never do it for somebodies child...
Edited by April2007 - 14 years ago

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