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Another mixed episode - but I suppose its somewhat inevitable to wrap up the show without dealing with all its characters. Overall, annoying or not - I'm glad we didn't get anything as redundant as the SF scene yesterday which was just retard level lame!

But without digressing, first things first:

* The first scene somewhat surprised me, but I like the implicit nuances of it in retrospect. For the first time - we're getting a scene where Gulaal is the stubborn resistance to stay back, while Kesar tells her to go. His 'voluntary letting her go' is obviously, just like the DV time, only for her sake... but I have to admit it surprised me in coming like that initially from him. We saw the E24 segment and sort of fore-guessed this kind of a situation, but I personally had speculated there would be some reverse psychology tact involved on Kesar's part - except, he really is telling her to go back, to go out of this mad house where all fingers point at her. I wish (for the nth time) we'd had the old PB, because a dialog like jab is ghar ke logo ke dil mein jaga kho di hai, to ghar mein jagah banakar kya fayda could have been so much more significant - so much more effective, and a much better justification of how much it hurts Kesar to prompt him to actually tell Gulaal to abide by her father's word and leave! Instead - it comes out unnecessary and lame and rather peevish from this PB, so Kesar walking in and telling her to go, well, is a little shocking!

Anyway - what I like even more is the bit where Revji immediately realizes his lapse in taking a decision for Gulaal and Kesar all by himself, only after Kesar shows up; the way he admits his impulse in the decision and admits he should have involved Kesar in the decision making is such a relief - I'm glad some people are finally beginning to learn to give him his place! He is an adult, now the sole heir of his family, Gulaal's husband, and thereby Revji's SIL - a relationship that demands much respect and obligation in such traditional Indian set-ups! I was glad Revji acknowledged his right to be involved in such decision, and not just be walked over like a mat - as has happened in most of his most important decisions of life! People have taken him for a kid, or granted otherwise, too long! Add to that Revji's final sentiment of leaving Gulaal upon Kesar's word and in his care - its like sweet redemption to the times this same Kesar has been accused of being the root of all of Gulaal's problems from all ends! Revji once called Kesar a selfish person - and today was like taking all those words back, in showing trust, and faith - not to mention respect, for this young adult! He's not OTT like PooBaa tends to be... when he says he trusts Kesar - he's saying it out of acknowledgment for Kesar himself, and not this guy who is his daughter's husband!

Of course - the quick look GK share when Kesar promises to stand up for her self respect and dignity is another of those silent exchanges. Gulaal has ceased to be 'shocked surprised' at his limitlessness with regard to her, I suppose, but she cannot help but keep realizing over and over, what how Kesar and his love is selflessness personified ! Right from the day Kesar resolved to give her every happiness in the grace time he has - and especially since her own revelation of how pure that intention has been on his part - she has rediscovered the essence of her unending importance in the life of another... not that she has been anything short of indispensable for the rest of the house... but this importance she finds for herself in Kesar's being is another level; to have found someone who is more hurt than she is, when something wrong happens for her, is a privilege she had long forgotten, and after leading a life of a decade of only giving - even though becoming a taker in a relation has come to her the hard way, now that it has, she's truly depending on it, and feels the need for it so innately. So far and deep it now goes, that when she's asked to leave the house, her appalled reaction is not for all the reasons she gives, including that she deserves the punishment - but because leaving this house (where everyone is against her) is no longer about leaving a place where she has no position or acceptance, but about leaving a place where she has him... Kesar - and in him, that person, that support, that absolute need of her, and her happiness! There is such irony in the fact that for an austere soul like her who had learned to live her life only for others - she could make the harsh decision of leaving the house previously, when people of that house did need her; as opposed to now, when she's avoided like a plague, and yet she can't walk out of the place, because in here, is her safest haven... Kesar!


* The morning scene when Kesar wakes up and asks for his tea (aww, he's such a cutie cookin up all those random chats like tu to jaldi uth jaati hai, achi adat hai, mujhe bhi uthna chiye 😆 oh Kesar!) again, Gulaal's open confession of backing out - 😲 the Gulaal backs out - and then, further asking his help, indirectly even though, cause hello, there's no way (even if subconsciously) she expects Kesar to sit down and take her expelled condition from the kitchen, or any other common place ! I'm not saying she shares her problem with him out of designs to get him to move in as her shield, but that's how reflexive her dependence on his help has become, and that's how willingly she can allow him to take over the reigns now! When she tries to protest - it is not out of reluctance of Kesar helping her, but just because there's a limit to what she can take from the witches, and she gets it so bad each time... the confidence and fight characteristic of Gulaal has so fizzled out for now!


* Kitchen Scene - Soldier Kesar walks right in and does no beating around the bush or mincing of word but declares his decision - just like that, because that's how does things right?! In your face?! 😆 Attaboy Kesar! And even if they can dish out taunts and snide cold liners at him (or rather her, behind him) isn't it awesome how not one of those Kali Devi wannabe women of the house can't stand up to Kesar's statement and say NO, she cannot enter?! Another drastic change, as we can recall, from the last time Gulaal was stopped at the door of the kitchen by Sudha, when she even had feeble support from PB and selfish support from JK on her side... Kesar's protests had fallen on deaf ears - because from then to now, GK have gone from being two warring individuals to a unit, a team! Now they stand united, and every one relents, happily, or grumbling! 👏


*Kitchen Nok Jhok - Aww again! How cute does this guy get! Goes right back to tea making - geez he's still a learner?! Aisi bhi kya rocket science hai! 🤣 - Obviously the scene is dripping of cuteness what with Kesar confessiong he got Talli to make his tea that day, and then telling Gulaal now they will take their sweet time and let the others go hungry, and again, how she just has to eat what he cooks (oh he can wish and she can dream... khana kabi banega to khayegi! 😆) and well - the entire deal of that scene - so so cute! Of course, the most glaring thing to note is his flow of pati patni mention, and holding hands... which takes me to the next point...


* When Galool ji takes all the pati this patni that talk, THREE TIMES IN ONE EPISODE without so much as raising an eye, batting a lid, gulping, clutching to her ghoongat for shield, toying with her neck piece or earrings, or just looking away ... you know the Gulaal element is so beaten down! Of course Kesar was not testing waters with her tolerance and acceptance of his repeated and legit brandishing of their pati-patni rishta - but the way he said it once, twice, thrice... it was almost like in all his banter to get her out of her morose self, react to his words and just sort of lighten the air, he was doing everything to bait her, consciously and subconsciously! It reminded of the scene of feeding each other for opening the Jai Parvatti vrat, when Gulaal had been all out trying to distract Kesar from his kill Dushyant with his eyes mode! Its interesting how these two, in getting each others attention off something get right out of their cordially accepted comfort zone and suddenly become this couple who have always been man and wife... they forgo things like, we stand a foot apart at all times, don't feed each other with our hands, never try anything coy or cute, and definitely don't go publicly adressing each other as pati patni 😲 All that matters is getting through to the other person - whatever it takes, and they aren't thinking out explicitly what to say to poke the person out of their current obsession (anger or melancholy) but this couple like ease is so natural to them - they don't even realize how man and wife they are, whatever their formal claims! Anyway - while Kesar harping about pati patni all of today was cute, and endearing, and oh music to the ears - tomorrow's precap looks even better! This is not in cajoling Gulaal - this is declaration of rights, and position, and the rishta! Gaonwalo, ye jo Gulaal hai na, isse mera deeyarvattu hua tha... par ye chaar chudail... (Rewa replaced by Sudha?!) ... inki aisi ki taisi! Main sui-saad nahi karunga... main to chala, ghar chodkar, humesha humesha ke liye !!! 😎

*jumps up and down excited about tomorrow! the blessed exile at last, Amen!*


*About MB - I'll say what I said yesterday too, there's no way you don't sympathize with this man, or not respect him. He's got legit reason to be disappointed, and his overwhelming sense of loss all over anew with the addition of betrayal has only mislead him so much that he wont entertain reasons from Gulaal - but really, he's been so reasonable and man about this entire thing... and today, he rose a notch higher on his pedestal. There is a reason he has sons like Vasant and Kesar - clearly, they have no genetic semblance of their lovely (not) mother dearest... 🤢 MB was awesome. PB can stay out of my post, since I can't do much about keeping her out of the episode. JK was... well, classic JK. 😕 Giga was actually decent. He didn't take his wife's crap sitting down. He's always been the feeble no action guy, and continues to be that - but at least that doesn't mar his sense of right from wrong, thank God! Sudha even now, doesn't seem outright witch. She's just going with the flow. But oh she's got her shock waiting around the corner, mention of Raman was promise of justice - he's not forgotten!

Talli - well... more tomorrow I suppose?! Her heart is finally in the right place. That's all I'll say for her.

Welcome to discuss debate like always,
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JZee



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Posted: 14 years ago
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thanks JZee
very nice post👏
Revji once called Kesar a selfish person - and today was like taking all those words back, in showing trust, and faith - not to mention respect, for this young adult! He's not OTT like PooBaa tends to be... when he says he trusts Kesar - he's saying it out of acknowledgment for Kesar himself, and not this guy who is her daughter's husband!
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So far and deep it now goes, that when she's asked to leave the house, her appalled reaction is not for all the reasons she gives, including that she deserves the punishment - but because leaving this house (where everyone is against her) is no longer about leaving a place where she has no position or acceptance, but about leaving a place where she has him... Kesar - and in him, that person, that support, that absolute need of her, and her happiness! There is such irony in the fact that for an austere soul like her who had learned to live her life only for others - she could make the harsh decision of leaving the house previously, when people of that house did need her; as opposed to now, when she's avoided like a plague, and yet she can't walk out of the place, because in here, is her safest haven... Kesar!
wow , such nice and classy interpretation, i wonder how you guys pen down such beautiful words without compromising the flow and emotions of the episode👏
thanks again and keep writing 😃
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[quote]So far and deep it now goes, that when she's asked to leave the house, her appalled reaction is not for all the reasons she gives, including that she deserves the punishment - but because leaving this house (where everyone is against her) is no longer about leaving a place where she has no position or acceptance, but about leaving a place where she has him... Kesar - and in him, that person, that support, that absolute need of her, and her happiness! There is such irony in the fact that for an austere soul like her who had learned to live her life only for others - she could make the harsh decision of leaving the house previously, when people of that house did need her; as opposed to now, when she's avoided like a plague, and yet she can't walk out of the place, because in here, is her safest haven... Kesar![/quote]

I completely missed this point in my post even though it was probably the most significant part of the episode. To any normal viewer, Gulaal's real reason for not leaving would have been very blatant despite the reasons she gave. Her 'Main kahin nahin jaoogi' was more of a 'No way am I leaving YOU'. If it was JUST about the family, she would have volunteered to leave the house if her presence was hurting them so much but Gulaal's repulsed and stubborn reaction was due to Kesar and Kesar only! Another proof of that will be when she leaves the house with him tomorrow. Why not tell him that she won't leave? If he wants to go he can but she will stay in the house. But she won't do that because her heart is where Kesar is.


Lowely post Jzee! I think you already know my views on the kitchen cuteness ☺️
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Another mixed episode - but I suppose its somewhat inevitable to wrap up the show without dealing with all its characters. Overall, annoying or not - I'm glad we didn't get anything as redundant as the SF scene yesterday which was just retard level lame! Thanks for using the term retard level. i hate using that word even for the patients of the lowest IQ, I prefer it as "challenged". But for this scene you mentioned, RETARD, it was.


But without digressing, first things first:

* The first scene somewhat surprised me, but I like the implicit nuances of it in retrospect. For the first time - we're getting a scene where Gulaal is the stubborn resistance to stay back, while Kesar tells her to go. His 'voluntary letting her go' is obviously, just like the DV time, only for her sake... but I have to admit it surprised me in coming like that initially from him. It is just that he can't see her in pain. the minute he sees her suffer, he can do anything for her even if it involves letting her go. His deeyarvatu decision also is based on the fact that Gulaal should not suffer for whatever reasons.
We saw the E24 segment and sort of fore-guessed this kind of a situation, but I personally had speculated there would be some reverse psychology tact involved on Kesar's part - except, he really is telling her to go back, to go out of this mad house where all fingers point at her. I wish (for the nth time) we'd had the old PB, because a dialog like jab is ghar ke logo ke dil mein jaga kho di hai, to ghar mein jagah banakar kya fayda could have been so much more significant - so much more effective, and a much better justification of how much it hurts Kesar to prompt him to actually tell Gulaal to abide by her father's word and leave! Instead - it comes out unnecessary and lame and rather peevish from this PB, so Kesar walking in and telling her to go, well, is a little shocking! Couldn't agree more

Anyway - what I like even more is the bit where Revji immediately realizes his lapse in taking a decision for Gulaal and Kesar all by himself, only after Kesar shows up; the way he admits his impulse in the decision and admits he should have involved Kesar in the decision making is such a relief - I'm glad some people are finally beginning to learn to give him his place! He is an adult, now the sole heir of his family, Gulaal's husband, and thereby Revji's SIL - a relationship that demands much respect and obligation in such traditional Indian set-ups! I was glad Revji acknowledged his right to be involved in such decision, and not just be walked over like a mat - as has happened in most of his most important decisions of life! People have taken him for a kid, or granted otherwise, too long! Still... I love Kesar's humility when he sees Baapji with folded hands.
Add to that Revji's final sentiment of leaving Gulaal upon Kesar's word and in his care - its like sweet redemption to the times this same Kesar has been accused of being the root of all of Gulaal's problems from all ends! Revji once called Kesar a selfish person - and today was like taking all those words back, in showing trust, and faith - not to mention respect, for this young adult! He's not OTT like PooBaa tends to be... when he says he trusts Kesar - he's saying it out of acknowledgment for Kesar himself, and not this guy who is her daughter's husband! Agree, because he himself is not sure if this relationship would last, yet he trusts him, trust KESAR, the person
Of course - the quick look GK share when Kesar promises to stand up for her self respect and dignity is another of those silent exchanges. Gulaal has ceased to be 'shocked surprised' at his limitlessness with regard to her, I suppose, but she cannot help but keep realizing over and over, what how Kesar and his love is selflessness personified ! Right from the day Kesar resolved to give her every happiness in the grace time he has - and especially since her own revelation of how pure that intention has been on his part - she has rediscovered the essence of her unending importance in the life of another... not that she has been anything short of indispensable for the rest of the house... but this importance she finds for herself in Kesar's being is another level; to have found someone who is more hurt than she is, when something wrong happens for her, is a privilege she had long forgotten, and after leading a life of a decade of only giving - even though becoming a taker in a relation has come to her the hard way, now that it has, she's truly depending on it, and feels the need for it so innately. So far and deep it now goes, that when she's asked to leave the house, her appalled reaction is not for all the reasons she gives, including that she deserves the punishment - but because leaving this house (where everyone is against her) is no longer about leaving a place where she has no position or acceptance, but about leaving a place where she has him... Kesar - and in him, that person, that support, that absolute need of her, and her happiness! There is such irony in the fact that for an austere soul like her who had learned to live her life only for others - she could make the harsh decision of leaving the house previously, when people of that house did need her; as opposed to now, when she's avoided like a plague, and yet she can't walk out of the place, because in here, is her safest haven... Kesar!
I believe that when she abides by his decision to leave and walks away with him, even if she may not say it out loud, it would be like setting her priorities straight. If it were for the house and the family like before, she would still stay back saying she may opt to stay in the cowshed of this house. Of course it will hurt her to leave this house and go but abiding by his decision means, acceptance that it is Kesar who matters most to her. If it were the earlier Gulaal, she would have gone back to her parents.Let us see how the scene unfolds tomorrow.


* The morning scene when Kesar wakes up and asks for his tea (aww, he's such a cutie cookin up all those random chats like tu to jaldi uth jaati hai, achi adat hai, mujhe bhi uthna chiye 😆 oh Kesar!) again, Gulaal's open confession of backing out - 😲 the Gulaal backs out - and then, further asking his help, indirectly even though, cause hello, there's no way (even if subconsciously) she expects Kesar to sit down and take her expelled condition from the kitchen, or any other common place ! I'm not saying she shares her problem with him out of designs to get him to move in as her shield, but that's how reflexive her dependence on his help has become, and that's how willingly she can allow him to take over the reigns now! When she tries to protest - it is not out of reluctance of Kesar helping her, but just because there's a limit to what she can take from the witches, and she gets it so bad each time... the confidence and fight characteristic of Gulaal has so fizzled out for now! The "dhoka" word has hit her hard. She has been Vasant's Gulaal by body, heart and soul until now and she gets labelled as " be imaani ka misaal" and whatever. the actual Gulaal that she had come to be after Vasant's death, the fighting spirit just died down in her depression. She had Kesar to be taken care of, now she is too weak, drained out emotionally and physically too.


* Kitchen Scene - Soldier Kesar Lovelywalks right in and does no beating around the bush or mincing of word but declares his decision - just like that, because that's how does things right?! In your face?! 😆 Attaboy Kesar! And even if they can dish out taunts and snide cold liners at him (or rather her, behind him) isn't it awesome how not one of those Kali Devi wannabe women of the house can't stand up to Kesar's statement and say NO, she cannot enter?! Another drastic change, as we can recall, from the last time Gulaal was stopped at the door of the kitchen by Sudha, when she even had feeble support from PB and selfish support from JK on her side... Kesar's protests had fallen on deaf ears - because from then to now, GK have gone from being two warring individuals to a unit, a team! Now they stand united, and every one relents, happily, or grumbling! 👏


*Kitchen Nok Jhok - Aww again! How cute does this guy get! Goes right back to tea making - geez he's still a learner?! Aisi bhi kya rocket science hai! 🤣 - Mauke ka pura faayda for all the swet nothings that he can talk to her over his maiden venture in Chai making. Obviously the scene is dripping of cuteness what with Kesar confessiong he got Talli to make his tea that day straight forwardness to confess previous cheating...hadh hai yaar(thanks Anu, I have borrowed this from you after reading about PBs expressions. I laughed for a long time reading that comment of yours, see my headache has increased after laughing at that), and then telling Gulaal now they will take their sweet time and let the others go hungry mega plan at that, and again, how she just has to eat what he cooks (oh he can wish and she can dream... khana kabi banega to khayegi! 😆) and well - the entire deal of that scene - so so cute! Of course, the most glaring thing to note is his flow of pati patni mention, and holding hands... which takes me to the next point...


* When Galool ji takes all the pati this patni that talk, THREE TIMES IN ONE EPISODE without so much as raising an eye, batting a lid, gulping, clutching to her ghoongat for shield, toying with her neck piece or earrings, or just looking away ...My God, she does all these., yes yes.... you know the Gulaal element is so beaten down! Of course Kesar was not testing waters with her tolerance and acceptance of his repeated and legit brandishing of their pati-patni rishta - but the way he said it once, twice, thrice... it was almost like in all his banter to get her out of her morose self, react to his words and just sort of lighten the air, he was doing everything to bait her, consciously and subconsciously! It reminded of the scene of feeding each other for opening the Jai Parvatti vrat, when Gulaal had been all out trying to distract Kesar from his kill Dushyant with his eyes mode!Clap Its interesting how these two, in getting each others attention off something get right out of their cordially accepted comfort zone and suddenly become this couple who have always been man and wife... they forgo things like, we stand a foot apart at all times, don't feed each other with our hands, never try anything coy or cute, and definitely don't go publicly adressing each other as pati patni 😲 ...In response 😛
All that matters is getting through to the other person - whatever it takes, and they aren't thinking out explicitly what to say to poke the person out of their current obsession (anger or melancholy)
but this couple like ease is so natural to them - they don't even realize how man and wife they are, whatever their formal claims! Agree, perfect
Anyway - while Kesar harping about pati patni all of today was cute, and endearing, and oh music to the ears - tomorrow's precap looks even better! This is not in cajoling Gulaal - this is declaration of rights, and position, and the rishta! Gaonwalo, ye jo Gulaal hai na, isse mera deeyarvattu hua tha... par ye chaar chudail... (Rewa replaced by Sudha?!) ... inki aisi ki taisi! Main sui-saad nahi karunga... main to chala, ghar chodkar, humesha humesha ke liye !!! 😎 But they are not left with another son to be of their aid. Agreed hsuband and wife take the vows to support each other. But parents are an integral part of our lives. I wish he at least tells them before leaving that he would continue to do all his duties as a son even as he lived elsewhere

*jumps up and down excited about tomorrow! the blessed exile at last, Amen!*


*About MB - I'll say what I said yesterday too, there's no way you don't sympathize with this man, or not respect him. He's got legit reason to be disappointed, and his overwhelming sense of loss all over anew with the addition of betrayal has only mislead him so much that he wont entertain reasons from Gulaal - but really, he's been so reasonable and man about this entire thing... and today, he rose a notch higher on his pedestal. There is a reason he has sons like Vasant and Kesar - clearly, they have no genetic semblance of their lovely (not) mother dearest... 🤢 Lovely, agree to what you say here. But now I wonder if that Raman was exchanged by mistake at the Talsagra local hospital(or may be there is a secret past involving a midwife stealing the baby for money)
MB was awesome. PB can stay out of my post, PLEASE...thanks for being so considerate since I can't do much about keeping her out of the episode. JK was... well, classic JK. 😕 Giga was actually decent. He didn't take his wife's crap sitting down. He's always been the feeble no action guy, and continues to be that - but at least that doesn't mar his sense of right from wrong, thank God! Sudha even now, doesn't seem outright witch. She's just going with the flow. But oh she's got her shock waiting around the corner, mention of Raman was promise of justice - he's not forgotten!

Talli - well... more tomorrow I suppose?! Her heart is finally in the right place. That's all I'll say for her.

Welcome to discuss debate like always,
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JZee
Uff...I managed to respond to yours in detail. Imagine my guts to do it and that too with my migraine revisited. Hey how is your finger by the way???All is well???



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LOL Ganga you are welcome to borrow that phrase anytime...I hope your migraine gets better soon! Loved reading your comments as always :-)


@Jzee: You made the topic and I saw it late... I would have posted the caps here otherwise...lol...chalo until next time.

Anywhoo...lovely post as always...I also thought of that point while watching the epi...the way Gulaal instantly balked at the idea of leaving the house...and even if she may have later given the reasoning that this is her "penance", I also think subconsciously it is her inability to leave Kesar...consciously she will try to be as much of a martyr as she can about this...but subconsciously her heart cannot live without Kesar's presence in her life...it is only later she will come to realize how integral that's become to her existence.


Big fireworks coming up tomorrow...I hope the confrontation happens in the first few minutes only and by mid-end of the epi, GK are in their new house :P

And as for what reason will make Gulaal agree to leave? I would lay my bets on Kesar exercising some PATI rights once again :P LOL...Gulaal should know what a HUGE weapon she's handed to him by HERSELF acknowledging that she is his patni...ab toh Kesar full faayda uthaayega all he can😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

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I completely missed this point in my post even though it was probably the most significant part of the episode. To any normal viewer, Gulaal's real reason for not leaving would have been very blatant despite the reasons she gave. Her 'Main kahin nahin jaoogi' was more of a 'No way am I leaving YOU'. If it was JUST about the family, she would have volunteered to leave the house if her presence was hurting them so much but Gulaal's repulsed and stubborn reaction was due to Kesar and Kesar only! Another proof of that will be when she leaves the house with him tomorrow. Why not tell him that she won't leave? If he wants to go he can but she will stay in the house. But she won't do that because her heart is where Kesar is.




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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awww...the kitchen scene...been watching it over and over again 😳 I know he told Gulaal that she should make him run around like a pati BUT honestly, he is totally enjoying being the pati and such a lovely pati he is!! I mentioned this on the EDT but today was sort of a dress rehearsal for when they leave the house. At least Kesu knows how to make tea and more importantly what utensil to use for it!!

I loved the cowshed scene as well...wish it had been a bit longer (hint hint...lets just delete all these stupid PB scenes completely)😡 I felt his fb spoke volumes...he was thinking of the Gulaal who ran around free...and happy comparing her to the Gulaal who was losing herself to guilt and literally suffocating in all that self doubt!
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Okay - going to reply to everyone, i just went off to watch the episode again in HD ... and wanted to add some things I noticed now...

* I like how at the end of the MB/PB scene, when MB thinks of old times, his FB is of holi, of the family coloring each other with 'gulaal' in ritual, and how when the scene zooms back to present, the scene goes black and white... MB is such a maintained character in this entire sequence of Vasant murder revelation - he is upset at Gulaal, and he's upset about losing her too... she's been this one person holds the house kind of support in his home, and thankfully, unlike the others, he cannot really forget that, even as he's too upset by the turn of events... his nature to reason even in deep throes is so encouraging... I wonder, on that note, what his reaction would have been to the Friday chaar chudail scenes we got, if his reaction to a much minor showdown in the kitchen today, in comparison, was to reconsider his harsh decision for Gulaal.

* An exact opposite is PB. Does this actress know PB is a mother returned to her mourning phase?! Does she ever look sad to anyone?! MB - even when he was giving Gulaal harsh liners left right center, was such a pained father... PB is... 😕 I don't even know what to say about her expression exchange with JK, when the latter entered the kitchen... seriously, does she realize this is not just a tiff between two ladies of the house, but the grudge of mother who has lost her son to this other lady's murder son?! Gravity of situation ki to leni deni kardi! 🤢

* Again, Kesar's FB of Gulaal from that jungle scene is so significant - like you said Anjali, he is indeed comparing the free and happy Gulaal from that FB to the Gulaal of today - so caged and subdued... not to mention so deeply traumatized, her silent tears refuse to stay away...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

If it was JUST about the family, she would have volunteered to leave the house if her presence was hurting them so much but Gulaal's repulsed and stubborn reaction was due to Kesar and Kesar only! Another proof of that will be when she leaves the house with him tomorrow. Why not tell him that she won't leave? If he wants to go he can but she will stay in the house. But she won't do that because her heart is where Kesar is.



Exactly - lol, I said the same thing on your thread, of how the same Gulaal who refuses to leave the house today, to pay her dues, is going to be easy to take away tomorrow, when its about Kesar taking her away!

As angel says - Home is where Heart is! The way she told Revji main apna ghar chodkar apke saath nahi aa sakti - after PB said there was no place in the hearts of the people or the house for her... well, she was only talking about Kesar - whether or not she realizes! I like the significance of Revji's question as well - ab is ghar mein tere rukne ki aur wajah kya bachi hai! Although it's a rhetoric question from Revji - technically, it should act sounding board for Gulaal - what is her reason after all!
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Ganga - I replied to you but IF lost the post I keep telling myself to copy text before posting, but I always forget it for the longest ones, argh! Btw, Migraines suck! I hope you can crash for the night early and wake up with good riddance from the annoying thing!

My fingers are still bandaged and somewhat drugged, so I can't tell the pain really - its more like working with artificial limbs, cause they're more numb than not... I suppose I'll be more depressed when the bandage comes off and I can see my two middle nails missing

Originally posted by: MeySimi


I believe that when she abides by his decision to leave and walks away with him, even if she may not say it out loud, it would be like setting her priorities straight. If it were for the house and the family like before, she would still stay back saying she may opt to stay in the cowshed of this house. Of course it will hurt her to leave this house and go but abiding by his decision means, acceptance that it is Kesar who matters most to her. If it were the earlier Gulaal, she would have gone back to her parents.Let us see how the scene unfolds tomorrow.

@bold - WORD Ganga - when she does sit to think about why she wasn't ready to leave the house one day, and then she left it the next - she will realize what she has done and why... priorities indeed!

The "dhoka" word has hit her hard. She has been Vasant's Gulaal by body, heart and soul until now and she gets labelled as " be imaani ka misaal" and whatever. the actual Gulaal that she had come to be after Vasant's death, the fighting spirit just died down in her depression. She had Kesar to be taken care of, now she is too weak, drained out emotionally and physically too.

Totally! The Gulaal who was so incapable of understand any fault of her own until a few days ago, can now see no one but herself wrong... and still beneath her sense of self blame is this understanding, that she's not so wrong... in fact, part of her repetition of blame is almost like she's telling herself, making herself realize how much wrong she has done, so she could bear all that's coming her way - because she can't pretend to be a wall anymore... and then Kesar goes around telling her she is not wrong or to blame - but since her defiance to injustice is at its all time low, the only way she can take the crap is going the opposite way and making herself believe she is so so so wrong, and then constantly living in that weird magnified guilt... Not that the presence of all the anti Gulaal feelings around her is any help!

I wonder btw, what MB's reaction would have been to the chaar chudail scenes of Friday - if the minor in comparison kitchen showdown today made him re think!


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