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Posted: 14 years ago
its getting more interesting ...Gripping update
cant wait to read more
continue soon
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Posted: 14 years ago
Fab yaar...damn good...
I dont have words...though m so confused after reading this part but i want to say its superb...you've written it so well...
Who is the stalker...?? Who is the murderer...?? Its too complicated.
Updt soon

Thanks for the pm.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Well, I'm back Sooks and with more questions.

Story board, gets cleaned up, but not much, though.

Eve-teaser - Cause of death: Assault, battery. Severed hands (8 months after graduation)

Unknown John Doe AKA Geet's stalker one - Cause of death: GSW to the head. Diazepam overdose. (~ 1.9 years after graduation)

Sasha - Cause of death: Drug overdose. (~ 5 yrs after graduation)

Anjali - Cause of death: Asphyxiation. Post-mortem stab wounds and Drug overdose. (~ 7 yrs after graduation)

"The behavior is not showing up on anyone present in the list of relatives, friends or colleagues. Even her boyfriend comes out clean'"

When did they interview Vikram? You said Vikram and his brother were going to come down to the station for a statement, so I'm not sure how they are ruling out Vikram.

"He would get more and more violent and given the medication he was taking, he would be severely moody too..."

Emily is talking about the stalker/killer here. How do they know that he was under medication?

I know night tried to answer my question about the cologne the stalker used. Geet's father makes a mention of it and also the fourth victim's statement has a reference to it. So that conforms that Mal didn't put that into Geet's head. This only proves that the stalker was in Geet's life ever since her teen years, but this does not connect the stalker to Geet's senior and I call him Unknown John Doe. There were mention of Geet's artifacts in his apartment, but nothing of the scent was mentioned in the case itself.

Of course in today's part, there is some hints at Mal or Geet visiting the apartment. We don't know who it is, but it's more likely for it to be Mal, given that she was also photographed talking with the senior. And it still doesn't explain why Geet panicked when Sasha took her to the docks. Was it merely because she was aware that her ex-stalker used to stay and murdered close by?

Then there is the question about the blackmailer and the second man Anjali was sleeping with. But Anjali would not have 'smiled unconsciously' at the black mailer, when she got the door. The second man in the picture could have been anjali's ex-boyfriend, but not necessarily. Although, it is confirmed that the black mailer was not the ex-boyfriend because, Geet would have identified him at the club. Is the blackmailer Vikram's brother? (You had mentioned Vikram's brother making an appearance, so I'm guessing it wasn't a mere slip of no significance) And I'm not suspecting the ex-boyfriend to have taken the pictures because, it doesn't make sense for him to be focusing on Geet's room.

Also the detail's of Deshmukh's enquiry from the building where the picture itself was taken still remains open. So I will wait until then.

I'm unable to consider Vikram as a candidate for the killer, who accounts for extreme rage in the killings. From the way, the artist screams at Anjali's picture calling her a wh**e and his devolving psyche doesn't add up to a man who could perform. Vikram was physically close to Anjali and the artist definitely is incapable of such confidence needed for intimacy. However he is very much suiting the profile of the killer, who accounts for the guilt part of the murders.

Given Mal and Geet having similar features, its possible that they are being targeted together and possibly Geet was never the single point of focus at all. But it's all just speculation.

The repeat mention of two distinct personalities, two killers are clear now, but unable to apply them to the MOs of the eve teaser and the murder of the senior. They only make sense in the killings of the women.

Now there are just too many variables for me to solve Sooks. I'm just going to step back, until you give me more clues.

PS, This has nothing to do with the story, and I couldn't help noticing it. Do you know that you have an obsession with number 3?. There are just too many 3s in your updates.

3 females go for the trip. The stalker rents the apartment for 3 years, 3 cups of tea, 3 files, 3 victims of the serial rapist, 3 glasses of wine has been poured out of wine bottle, 3 bookcases in Anjali's room, 3 trash cans at their apartment, 3 envelopes of pictures at Anjali's desk, Geet's stalker shows up in the third year, the jasmine in artist's room is buried for 3 seasons, pictures from last 3 months of Anjali's life go missing, Sasha lives with them for 3 years, the gap between 2nd and 3rd murder is approximately 3 years...and so much more. Couldn't help it. 😆

Of course, I have spent another hour, re-reading your updates and all because your writing and story telling engages me so. Great Updates Sooks. Keep it coming.

Hasini

Edited by 6thElement - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: 6thElement

Well, I'm back Sooks and with more questions.


Story board, gets cleaned up, but not much, though.

Eve-teaser - Cause of death: Assault, battery. Severed hands (8 months after graduation)

Unknown John Doe AKA Geet's stalker one - Cause of death: GSW to the head. Diazepam overdose. (~ 1.9 years after graduation)

Sasha - Cause of death: Drug overdose. (~ 5 yrs after graduation)

Anjali - Cause of death: Asphyxiation. Post-mortem stab wounds and Drug overdose. (~ 7 yrs after graduation)

"The behavior is not showing up on anyone present in the list of relatives, friends or colleagues. Even her boyfriend comes out clean'"

When did they interview Vikram? You said Vikram and his brother were going to come down to the station for a statement, so I'm not sure how they are ruling out Vikram.

Interviews are done. Deshmukh is going to talk about it next when they start narrowing suspects using profile. Unfortunately I can only write 6000 words in 6 hrs 😆 Next update will cover something more..

"He would get more and more violent and given the medication he was taking, he would be severely moody too..."

Emily is talking about the stalker/killer here. How do they know that he was under medication?

I have written about it in an earlier update. There was a prescription found at stalker's apartment and is cross checked with doctor. He was on cocktail of medication.

I know night tried to answer my question about the cologne the stalker used. Geet's father makes a mention of it and also the fourth victim's statement has a reference to it. So that conforms that Mal didn't put that into Geet's head. This only proves that the stalker was in Geet's life ever since her teen years, but this does not connect the stalker to Geet's senior and I call him Unknown John Doe. There were mention of Geet's artifacts in his apartment, but nothing of the scent was mentioned in the case itself.

No, it isn't mentioned. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Then again, the cops still haven't ruled out the possibility that the real stalker maybe still alive. Here is a hint: David still hasn't gotten time to go through everything in that John Doe's apartment. Also, think Greek 😆

Of course in today's part, there is some hints at Mal or Geet visiting the apartment. We don't know who it is, but it's more likely for it to be Mal, given that she was also photographed talking with the senior. And it still doesn't explain why Geet panicked when Sasha took her to the docks. Was it merely because she was aware that her ex-stalker used to stay and murdered close by?

😆 Am not telling you...na na naaa...

Then there is the question about the blackmailer and the second man Anjali was sleeping with. But Anjali would not have 'smiled unconsciously' at the black mailer, when she got the door. The second man in the picture could have been anjali's ex-boyfriend, but not necessarily. Although, it is confirmed that the black mailer was not the ex-boyfriend because, Geet would have identified him at the club. Is the blackmailer Vikram's brother? (You had mentioned Vikram's brother making an appearance, so I'm guessing it wasn't a mere slip of no significance) And I'm not suspecting the ex-boyfriend to have taken the pictures because, it doesn't make sense for him to be focusing on Geet's room.

If Anjali smiled at her killer, it would mean that she knows the person, right? So it could be anyone. Someone who has not even been introduced perhaps?

Also the detail's of Deshmukh's enquiry from the building where the picture itself was taken still remains open. So I will wait until then.

Yeah. Some more things will come in and also don't forget, Maan is expecting a sketch from the police.

I'm unable to consider Vikram as a candidate for the killer, who accounts for extreme rage in the killings. From the way, the artist screams at Anjali's picture calling her a wh**e and his devolving psyche doesn't add up to a man who could perform. Vikram was physically close to Anjali and the artist definitely is incapable of such confidence needed for intimacy. However he is very much suiting the profile of the killer, who accounts for the guilt part of the murders.

Good point. Its a valid way of eliminating Vikram but then again what if Vikram knew about her other affair? The rage would have taken him over, maybe. So gotta hear what Vikram is going to say.

Given Mal and Geet having similar features, its possible that they are being targeted together and possibly Geet was never the single point of focus at all. But it's all just speculation.

😆

The repeat mention of two distinct personalities, two killers are clear now, but unable to apply them to the MOs of the eve teaser and the murder of the senior. They only make sense in the killings of the women.

Correct. The repeat mention of distinct personalities would help each one of them to separate actions of the killer. If they go around with an assumption that its only one complex behavior, they will never solve this case. When a killer becomes a part of team, the dynamics completely change.

There is a mention in this update where in the group decides to put in a recorded assumption which changed the entire course of investigation - treat Anjali and Sasha's case different than the first two.

Once that was done, a pattern emerged for the second set. If you remember, Maan in second (or was it third) chapter mentions about this. He isn't very clear back then but he was very surprised at the two contrasting behavior and the lack of sexual component in both the kills.

Maan sees it as two different personalities - as Emily explains, the drug overdose part is effeminate while the later is not. This is why he goes on to put in his second assumption.

Now there are just too many variables for me to solve Sooks. I'm just going to step back, until you give me more clues.

PS, This has nothing to do with the story, and I couldn't help noticing it. Do you know that you have an obsession with number 3?. There are just too many 3s in your updates.

3 females go for the trip. The stalker rents the apartment for 3 years, 3 cups of tea, 3 files, 3 victims of the serial rapist, 3 glasses of wine has been poured out of wine bottle, 3 bookcases in Anjali's room, 3 trash cans at their apartment, 3 envelopes of pictures at Anjali's desk, Geet's stalker shows up in the third year, the jasmine in artist's room is buried for 3 seasons, pictures from last 3 months of Anjali's life go missing, Sasha lives with them for 3 years, the gap between 2nd and 3rd murder is approximately 3 years...and so much more. Couldn't help it. 😆

You need to watch an episode of CM where in the UnSub is an arsonist whose psychosis is triggered from number 3 or Trinity of 3. She sets a room on fire - on 3rd March, Wednesday on 3rd floor, room 303.

Of course, I have spent another hour, re-reading your updates and all because your writing and story telling engages me so. Great Updates Sooks. Keep it coming.

Thanks for the comment H! You made my day with your questions.

Hasini

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Posted: 14 years ago
For last few days, I badly wanted to put some valid comments but was very busy so was not able to think straight 😊

My conclusions are as follows :-

1) Geet defintely had a stalker and Mal knows about it
2) Geet and Mal had a very strong relationship from their teens itself. It can be due to this stalker case. Everyone thought it's Geet's delusions and may be Mal only understood her. It can be one of the reasons that they both went to the same college.
3) I think both Geet and Mal really knows the stalker and they might have hoped that it will be over after their college days. I really think, the killer of the stalker can be either Geet or Mal or both of them.
4) Now Sasha's and Anjali's murder can be done by someone so close to stalker may be his brother.


Now mind is going in a different directions. What if Stalker had a twin brother and Mal or Geet killed him mistaking him as stalker. Then defintely, stalker will take revenge. May be by killing those people close to Geet.

OMG, I can't burn my little head any more. Hats off to you sookie for bringing up such a wonderful FF



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Posted: 14 years ago
Hey there :)

Just came across this and I've only read the first part, but this is amazing! I love it :)

If you have a PM list, add me please!

I shall leave a longer comment once I'm done reading the whole thing! Also, you might not see my comment very often because I'm kinda swamped with academia right now, but I will definitely comment whenever possible!

xoxo
Aanya
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Posted: 14 years ago
seriosly gripping update and two murderers ,i am shocked .but the way they are seeing all the angels is fabulous . great going .
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Posted: 14 years ago
Sookie,

Will we be getting any update today?
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Posted: 14 years ago
I have mentioned this before once:

I strongly felt that Mal swung the other way and had hots for Geet and she murdered the girls who came in Geet's life other than her, out of insecurity.😉

But in some other update, Mal mentioned about being pregnant, so I got confused.😕

But once I re-read the parts, and Maan's concern over the lack of sexual assault in both the murders again got me thinking...if Mal is bi-sexual?
(Assuming Mal to be the Stapleton here...😆)

It has been seen time and again that Mal is being over-protective about Geet and one line in this update really got me hooked:

"And with the kind of stress Geet is dealing right now would have him hovering around her and taking care of her. He believes that without him she cannot function properly and helps her in every little way possible. But we don't see anyone who would fit that profile in Geet's life, do we?"

Dont we really have someone who matches this profile and is taking care of Geet?...Mal...😲

and another point was mentioned that there was a confusion about the stalker being a male or female...😕

Now about the black vases:

The Phuket trip triggered it all...the vase was one Sasha saw and liked in Phuket...so putting the vase after the murders kind of confirms the fact that the killer was in Phuket trailing behind...

A few pointers:

# Apparently Sasha was killed for being hot-headed and Anjali for being a two-timer...so the cause of murder are different in both cases...🤔

# Both the murders were discovered by Geet...is it a co-incidence?😳

# Anjali was stabbed with a knife from their own apartment...wouldn't the killer bring his/her weapon instead of relying on the fact if he/she found a knife in the victim's home?...or the killer knew where to find the knife?😕

# A party was supposed to be the day Sasha was murdered...according to deductions the killer could not stab Sasha as he/she did with Anjali cos Geet was supposed to come and pick her up all of a sudden...so can we assume the killer was not a part of the gang who were supposed to party or else he/she would have known previously and acted fast?🤔

The oddities:

# Then of course there is a man who posed as a cop...in Geet's college...😲

# Anjali was drugged in her living room and finally found on her bed...so she must have been carried...

# The way the eve-teaser was murdered clearly indicates muscle-power...

So is it safe to assume that at least one MAN is directly involved in this?

I dont know why but I feel Mal is so part of all this and she is kind of obsessed with Geet...😕

Too many questions...tried to sum up...😃

As for Sookie:

I have no words to express my appreciation, I hope and pray that you seriously think about writing who-dun-its professionally...brilliant stuff...👏👏

Thanx for the pm...🤗

P.S.: Sorry for the long post...😊
Edited by manashi - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
My simple attempt to connect the puzzle...thanks Hasini for the storyboard, it truly helped!:)

Sooks... I leave it up to you to connect the missing pieces to the puzzle! :)





ps.. If the fonts are not clear... take a look at this link
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