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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Srushti-


You know that is exactly what I wrote in KRML on 12th... am just putting it here...Though the Talli part is just put in a haphazard way in this post...the point is as you just rightly pointed out..She actually 'died' when Kesar left her...in a way they both were dying a typical death apart...and after years they met...and resuscitation spark just flew...

They both are so INEVITABLE for each other...with her on his side, you could see Kesar's sunny side up...the dark Kesar, the tantrumy Kesar is gone and with him on her side, you could see her finding her way back to her original self, the one she had just lost in the 10 years of their separation...and it just struck me...
That even after Vasant's death, Gulaal had held herself like this only... With Kesar around she had been this Gulaal ...may be not as playful, but she had it in her...she had NOT become a wall like she is right now...it was AFTER that Kesar went away that something, DIED in her...and she became that stone hearted woman...except for Talli..because she was the one on whom Gulaal could shower her love on...
Otherwise there was no outlet for her love...she did love the family ..but that was more of dedication and duty that called...not LOVE as in the sense she loved Kesar, wholesomely, unconditionally...
Just like he loves her..UNCONDITIONALLY, WHOLESOMELY...
*sigh* Where do I find this...😳


I don't know how missed this but I completely agree! Gulaal still knew how to live her life and that was only because of Kesar. Can you imagine what would have she been like if Kesuda wasn't there?😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalg

Definitely agree. After losing Vasant, Kesar became Gulaal's reason for living and she did not treat him like a responsibility because even before Vasant's death, Kesar and Gulaal had formed a very deep bond. Both Gulaal and Kesar protected each other after V's death they truly did become each others Kavach. Kesar used to stand up for Gulaal all the time and she did not let any harm come to him. Apart from all this, they actually brought each other joy and another important thing was that they actually learnt from each other.

Kesar already understand Gulaal's importance in his life. I honestly believe that Gulaal has yet to realize just what K means to her...and if K would have married anyone else...Gulaal would have lost herself once again. In essence, Kesar has brought Gulaal back to life twice...once after V died and now once again, he he is bringing Gulaal back to her old self...


Your posts never leave me anything else to say 😛 Your last sentence is SO TRUE!👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalg

Definitely agree. After losing Vasant, Kesar became Gulaal's reason for living and she did not treat him like a responsibility because even before Vasant's death, Kesar and Gulaal had formed a very deep bond. Both Gulaal and Kesar protected each other after V's death they truly did become each others Kavach. Kesar used to stand up for Gulaal all the time and she did not let any harm come to him. Apart from all this, they actually brought each other joy and another important thing was that they actually learnt from each other.

Kesar already understand Gulaal's importance in his life. I honestly believe that Gulaal has yet to realize just what K means to her...and if K would have married anyone else...Gulaal would have lost herself once again. In essence, Kesar has brought Gulaal back to life twice...once after V died and now once again, he he is bringing Gulaal back to her old self...


You never leave me anything to say 😛 Sab keh diya! Your last sentence is SO TRUE and I really hope Gulaal actually reflects on this later on.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I don't know how missed this but I completely agree! Gulaal still knew how to live her life and that was only because of Kesar. Can you imagine what would have she been like if Kesuda wasn't there?😕


The day Gulaal asks this question to herself, I think we can all go and tell her 'We told you so'😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I was watching up old episodes too. And every time I do that, Gulaal is a new revelation to me. Gulaal has actually become the woman she is now, in many many steps. Vasant's death was only a beginning, and you're right, she didn't actually retreat into the shell all by herself - incidentally, Kesar himself has had the greatest role to play, albeit unintentionally at all times, then, and now. I was watching those recent episodes of Raman vs Dushyant Sarpanch elections, followed by rumors on Dushyant's win, and Gulaal-Dushy rumor talks - and especially Kesar's heavy duty conflict of emotions at that point.

I think it's gone from Gulaal-Kesar being everything to each other - in equal status, despite the age gap, even a decade ago... to the time when Kesar learns of the Vasan murder truth (which is really just this ironic twist of fate, and neither Gulaal nor Kesar's doing) which causes Kesar to retreat into a shell. So in the way, the closing in, has been Kesar's initiation. He's bottled and brewed for ten long years - during which, Gulaal, despite her repeated means to stay convinced about Kesar's problem being as simple as boarding against wishes - she does realize he's gone too far from her. When he comes back, he's not only impossible for her to fathom, but also shockingly rude. Gulaal in a decade has become this skeleton of the person she used to be, and the only one to change it had to be Kesar - as Talli told him after the drowning incident - but he rips away the merest hope for it, with his initial ways. It doesn't end at that - he gives Gulaal the multiple shock treatment - by spooking her with his masculine evolution, by trying to possess her like his personal doll who he can cherish and mistreat as per his weighing emotion of each day, by mocking and insulting her before family who cares too much, and others who can find pleasure in Gulaal's only support backing out, by making it evident time and again that he trusts anyone, and everyone over and above her.

I think the elections were a huge turning point. When Kesar announced he would back up Raman - Gulaal was this close from nervous breakdown - and then the gossip fiasco over Dushy and her happens ... I think her lashing at Vasant's portrait at that point, complaining so openly to MB, and even telling Dushyant the hard fact of never really finding it in her heart to forgive him - is all a sign of final relinquishing. Personally I think, although the confession actually seals the fact - Gulaal has already closed herself up tight as it gets past that episode. Her not taking a chance at happiness is a long formed change - because she's just been met by repeated betrayal at the hands of those who matter most. Vasant, and Kesar. Her mother misunderstands her, even if for her own welfare, PB misunderstands her to plan Kesar's wedding, Yogesh blames her. Her wall of resilience has, IMO, fallen brick by brick... to give place to the new wall and she can't but hold onto it now in fear and absolute dejection.

It doesn't justify her approach - it only explains its very inception and existence. So we do concur on our point Reemz - it has certainly not been all in the name of Vasant.


I want to say more about Kesar too - he's had his own very complicated history over the same matter. It tears a viewer apart to decide which one to side with! Especially in that post election, gossip time when he goes to PB to ask her about Dushyant and Gulaal (one of the rare times PB actually talks sense, thank god) and then Talli comes cries for Gulaal and Kesar is jolted in the pro-Gulaal mode, only to find Dushyant enter her room ... then Dushyant brings him back from the bus, the Vatt savitri vrat scene totally has Kesar back on track, until he sees Talli with the dupatta. Kesar's conflicting logic has always been crazy equal, and in all fairness to him, he has not been blindly led on, but been guided by strong reasons in either direction. Because the opposite compelling forces have unfortunately always equated and canceled out he's been this utterly torn soul. And when he finally seeks answers from Gulaal - bluntly and plainly, she refuses him that one straight road to redemption, resolution and peace. Not to blame Gulaal - but truly, she owes him that... but the build up to that point has been so full of doubts and wrongs, her human bias takes over and she doesn't relent. It makes me wonder what would have happened if Kesar had been seeking answers from her when they were in their intermediate cordial phase... When Gulaal hadn't already completely shelled up herself, and Kesar was not so walled out and bitter.

But that's the beauty of their agony. It creates such a thick plot, and such wonderfully engaging, thought provoking rich characters.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Before I reply to everyones posts, I saw this video again



I couldn't get a clearer version but here Gulaal tells Dushyant 'Kyun baar baar mera pyar cheen na chahte hai aap' (why do you keep stealing my love away from me). This was after she punished Kesar! The choice of words were very interesting.


Oh wow!! I have watched this episode but I suppose I got so teary eyed watching Gulaal punish Kesar and completely missed that part!!!!!!!! She obviously meant Kesar...but to hear her say those words out loud...wow...very very interesting!😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Before I reply to everyones posts, I saw this video again



I couldn't get a clearer version but here Gulaal tells Dushyant 'Kyun baar baar mera pyar cheen na chahte hai aap' (why do you keep stealing my love away from me). This was after she punished Kesar! The choice of words were very interesting.

I remember that scene, D kept going being so nice to Kesar - obviously showering his brotherly love, but it kept backfiring, coz Kesar kept getting into other troubles in what he did (whilst Gulaal always wanted him on the straight and narrow obviously), gambling and so on etc, and yeah i remember that dialogue, its all coming back to me now... 😳

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