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stories of upanishand, bhagvad puran talk of self realistn . Tk anyone charctr n study he gt moksh aftr self realistn. N upanisad talk bt self

^^absolutely right Ankita dear.
All of these holy literatures teach abt the self, and knowing the self and God leads to moksha. Well said!

Though I am not quite a fan of Prabhupada or his writings or his organization, I do agree with that part where he says that the true knowledge is self-realization. The mind is an infinite library - every book or scripture, every God, every religion, every knowledge, every being, every invention, each of the infinite parallel universes is embedded in this mind. There's nothing outside this mind. And thus every mind is infinite, superluminal, omnipresent and supremely divine in its own right. The world that we see or perceive outside is but a projection of our own mind. Nirvana is nothing more than the realization of this facet of the self - the highest mind - the perfect intelligence Sat-Chit-Ananda. An odyssey of evolution of the mind to supermind and the soul to supersoul.

I may be wrong, but I have noticed the two high Gods of Hindu Pantheon - Vishnu and Shiva - are always shown in company of pet snakes. IMO, this coiled Kundalini snake symbolizes all that which attaches us to ignorance - temptations, desire and fear - and binds us to the realms of heaven or hell. One who is intimidated by this snake is Jiva and one who has tamed this snake is Shiva. One who is unaware of his own infinite self is Nar and one who is completely aware of his self is Narayan.

However I disagree with his stance against materialism. Politics, Scientific progress, space tech and military advancement (even nukes) are crucial to a nation's overall progress. Peace is vital for development and development is imperative for any spiritual movement. And in modern world, peace comes only through strength and tactics. These days religious people have developed a negative opinion about materialism. Materialistic science is as much important as spiritual science. Some understand physics through metaphysics while others interpret metaphysics in terms of physics. I, personally, prefer a balance of both.

sorry for late reply

Thanks for sharing .. i agree with ankita
i can say im fan or non fan of Prabhupada , im reading Gita by him .. hv u read??

hya I read Bhagwad Gita bt nt of Prabhupad

@Rehan, yes, the Satcitananda philosophy is what we're after. But there's actually a difference between the mind and the soul. Also, how can you claim that materialism leads to peace. As far as we know, all we're doing with materialism is creating weapons of mass destruction. And I'm not saying that there should be a stop to progress, neither is Prabhupada. Yes, we should obviously have progress, but still lead spiritual lives. For example, there should be an end to the pursuit of material happiness. You shouldn't have to work like an animal 6 hours a day, five days a week, to be happy. That is a conditioned soul.
btw, I didn't ask if you were a fan of Prabhupada.

@Parina di, thanks for replying di.
And yeah, I've read his "Bhagavad Gita As It Is."
So great to know that you have too! :D

Originally posted by: AishuJSKfan

@Rehan, yes, the Satcitananda philosophy is what we're after. But there's actually a difference between the mind and the soul. Also, how can you claim that materialism leads to peace. As far as we know, all we're doing with materialism is creating weapons of mass destruction. And I'm not saying that there should be a stop to progress, neither is Prabhupada. Yes, we should obviously have progress, but still lead spiritual lives. For example, there should be an end to the pursuit of material happiness. You shouldn't have to work like an animal 6 hours a day, five days a week, to be happy. That is a conditioned soul.
btw, I didn't ask if you were a fan of Prabhupada.

Mind and soul are as much different as mass and energy. In physics we have mass-energy equivalence and in metaphysics we call it mind-soul equivalence. Einstein formulated the former while Buddha had spoken of the latter nearly 2400 years prior to Einstein. Both the equations are afterall the manifestations of each other and contain the deepest secrets of our universes.

As I said, we have a very obscure idea of materialism today. As per most religious leaders of these days, materialism means extreme indulgence in personal pleasure, riches, greed and violence. But as per our ancient scriptures definition materialism is exactly opposite to renouncement. But I had said, balance needs to be maintained between materialism and spiritualism. Life is all about balance. For example, when Asoka took up Buddhism he gave up expansionism but he didn't surrender weapons - he still maintained the world's largest army because he knew if he gives up weapon and disbands his army, his entire empire shall be in disarray and peace shall be gone for ever.

As per Mahabharata, Krishna advised Arjun to be fully armed with all weapons of mass destruction (then known as Divyastras) much before the war was perceived and himself oversaw the largest bloodbath of his time with his ruthless strategies. War is never a desirable event, but at times when there's only choice between war and nation's dishonour, war is imperative. Besides weapons are not merely for waging war. They are actually for preventing war. Weapons of mass destruction are used as Weapons of Deterrence. In Military science, we have a proverb - 'The best weapon is the one which is never used'. Being religious need not mean being unpragmatic. Idealism has no place in politics or military - Mahabharata is the greatest proof of that. Indians, who have been attacked and savaged by rogue state and non-state elements more than often, should know this better than anyone else.

LOL. Once again you took my careless gesture in a more serious light. I merely tried to say that though I am not a fan of Prabhupada or ISKCON, I do agree with this point. That's it. 😊