30th June - Meri kismat ka faisla hai... (Kes-Gul)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kesar is frustrated, somewhat defeated, alone, helpless, misunderstood, heartbroken to a point where he seeks guidance, solace from one place where most of us go to when things are becoming well hope-less... Kesar knows he had/has no wrong intentions in why he wanted her back seeing as this house is her life and where her actual happiness is (but we all know his way going about it was not exactly right), his love is real, deep and its pure - but one thing that aches him is what Gulaal is terming his love... and it hurts him that he is being misunderstood, when he knows that he hasnt done anything wrong...
Gulaal is lost, lifeless, defeated, lonely, helpless, heartbroken, forced, taunted at, and somewhat beginning a new journey in finding herself in this house (and also in this new decision she has taken), and what place she attains, as JK harshly dismissed that her and Vasant relation doesnt count anymore, and only relation she has for being Kesar's wife, that hurt Gulaal as we saw yesterday, and since she is back and come back coz of Kesar as she says... she is a wife and she will do her duty as a wife for Kesar, we saw it yesterday - making food and sending it for him... duty and also care is attached to it.
If we look at the feelings and emotions both these have and are feelings its the same, both so similar... but different pov and outlook

My loneliness is the only thing that is left in me

We all know how Kesar is when he is angry and/or when reaches his anger level to a certain extent (but do i see sadness in his eyes and face today instead of anger?), he rushes off and we have seen him ride off with his bike and this is what he does as the episode opens up (with flashback of the last few days and words ringing in him), with Talli's words ringing inside him, does he want to attain Gulaal's love or lose her forever (we saw yesterday that he couldnt ever imagine losing Gulaal, let alone thinking about it) and Gulaal's words saying that Love isnt selfish or based on conditions... and that he doesnt love her, but only loves himself - and this is the very thing he said in the mandir scene yesterday he knows love isnt measured or based on conditions, and time, and its the very thing that cuts him that Gulaal thinks that of him... (but we know and can see why one would think Kesar's love is like that, coz of what he displayed last week)
The one line said by Gulaal said it all i think - That he just wants wife, you would just be there for him always, in his room and just for him... hurtful that line was coz we all know Kesar doesnt think that but if we simplify it, it does add and come up to what Gulaal is saying, why does he want his wife back in the house... so she just stays with him and near, what else does he want... thats just coming across he wants a possession
Last flashback was Gulaal telling him that before without Vasant she was alone, and now being with him she is still alone...
We all know in the past that Kesar has flashbacks of certain things and words that have hurt and him and thinks over them when he is riding off or alone and today after a long time it seems, we get a scene like that - the Kesar we know and have seen like this
Gulaal is worried, even if she doesnt show it like Talli is or like JK's tongue is doing lol, but inside she is worried, and you saw it somewhat more when the lights went out in the house and JK saying something bad might just happen... i have to say lights going out do indicate that, and fact that is heavy rain and storm, seeing as D couldnt find him in any of the places he could of think and looks like Talli only knows where he could be, i am pretty sure i think we saw Gulaal trying to think of places where he could be, or the one place he goes to when he is angry and upset (i still remember when little Kesar used to get angry and upset)
Less said about Sudha the better, that woman i do not get only coz i do understand as a mother she felt hurt and angry and would be, but not to the level she is taking it, esp as everything happened in front of her, like the wedding stopped and Kesar said what he did, and explained and then at the panchayant, she heard as well... so i dont know how she is being petty at such things and holding on when she has heard it all, there would eb difference if none of that happened in front of her, but it did
Poor Kesar, looks like he has stayed in one place all this time and not moved and here he is shivering and not even made an attempt to go home, and we all know why as he says that he wont go back home, and everyone blames him and holds him responsible - what can we say about Kesar here, he himself is making things bad for himself isnt he but being how he is - isnt that what Gulaal stated to JK, that his ownself and his attitude has made him like this - Gulaal wasnt being harsh, but she stated a fact, coz clearly in that scene of Kesar not moving and staying out in the rain, is what he did himself, that what the scene told her when he told D and Talli, he doesnt want to come home and so on... and being stubborn shall i say
Kesar thinks everyone blames him (but we all know why ppl said to him what they did and why), but you know most ppl's stares towards Gulaal say - accusing her of this situation, and of getting Kesar to this state and what has become of him, isnt that what JK taunts said and Raman's look towards her said!?
Gulaal i say does care, but she is now showing it in her own way, even if she is keeping a gap between her and Kesar, as she sits across from him
It was nice to see Gulaal think of the time Kesar took care of when she was ill, and today as he lays asleep - when she knows he needs care and so on, but then that one flashback is also attached with why she left the house in the first place, ILU rain confession and then Reva telling her that Kesar lodged a complaint against her and why she left the house...
Lovely scene we got between Kesar-Gulaal, coz you saw such a simple thing that Kesar does - covers her with his blanket he was using as she as fell asleep near the window, and gazes at her and did i see a small slight, ever so slightly smile when he goes back down to sleep and keeps looking at her, and then in the morning as he wakes up he has got his blanket back on him, and then you see a sight you thought you would never see Gulaal smiling lol (i am pretty sure we all thought Kesar is seeing things, the very thing he craves to see, his Gulaal smiling and looking at him like that, and you saw him having a contented smile) but as he opens his eyes again, what do we get Talli lol
Gulaal is not gonna show Kesar her concern as such knowing full well he brought it on himself.. which he did coz that rain scene and what he said confirmed that. And like i said earlier, each way she is getting accusations from each member of the family esp JK on look at what she has done to Kesar, when Gulaal knows full well that its mostly Kesar who does this to himself as well, and then Kesar zidd on not taking the wet bandage fuelled Gulaal (at this point it dont matter if its Talli or someone else being asked to do it this is between Kes-Gul, but the good thing is that Talli is witnessing this, coz Sudha is stirring in a way that Gulaal is like this and that), on what is he trying to do and what is he trying to prove and as she says why is he making things even more difficult then they already are, and putting more pressure on her and that she lives like she has even more and making the other family members taunt her more and more.. coz this is what is happening... after the lashing session looks like Kesar does listen and asks Talli do put the bandage on, why couldnt he just have it on before when she said lol. Kesar does want Gulaal to do little things for him and so on, but as we saw he isnt gonna do it, because to Gulaal is looks like a silly zidd he has and isnt that what the precap is proving to be as well, making it difficult for him and her, when he refuses to do anything and acts out like this
As Talli, you got to feel for her when what she said to Sudha, she knows Kesar doesnt love, wont ever and knows how Gulaal is and so on... but does that mean she stops caring and loving for him and so on, and Talli at times will feel hurt, but knowing what i have seen her - she will accept it, coz its going to hurt, for a moment Talli reminded me of Gulaal and how she loves Vasant, and continues to do so...
Do i see a Raman V Dushyant coming up, just like JK, Raman has no idea what sort of accusations they are putting on Gulaal as such, coz only D knows why his own life is the way it is, and why he is living like that and deserves to and Gulaal is the one who has done alot for this then put together him and anyone in the house, how easily do all of them forget, and i dont think D loves Gulaal like that anymore, only thing left in his is utter respect he has for her... and only thing he can give to her and she deserves it and so much more
D and Gulaal talk was interesting(though before you see Gulaal sitting starting into nothing), coz we know Gulaal and D have reached a silent understandign of where they stand and always do, as D says he didnt want to put any pressure on and so on with the panchyant decision, but we all saw that the decision was based on everything considered on what was laid out in front of them and so on. Interesting and significant line was said by Gulaal ' Shayad yeh panchayant ka nahi, Meri kismat ka faisla hai' How true is that... i leave it up to you guys
Also i think Kesar is a yo-yo - he goes up and he goes down, between a adult who has such deep simple thoughts in him and then a stroppy, stubborn immature ziddi teenager... who instant of trying to make things better is making things difficult, and the difficult part is what Gulaal sees and feels coz she gets the accusations and so on when Kesar does something, she gets the brunt of it...
I will say this, that what Revji baapji said about Kesar yesterday who has to take care of himself first has to happen, otherwise, there is no growth in Kesar, everything that has happened, he is still not getting it - the whole picture - he still isnt seeing it from Gulaal's pov, and you know why that is important, coz Gulaal's pov is the actual reality going on, the actual problem and somewhat solution...
PRECAP - Gulaal has sent the food for him, and if he wants anything else, then let her know, well we get Kesar showing his zidd and he actually said zidd, that he aint gonna eat unless Gulaal herself feeds him, and Gulaal says to JK, probably after JK has a go towards her (not surprised lol), and Gulaal says if he wants to eat or not its his own decision, but she isnt gonna feed him
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Posted: 14 years ago
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gulaal is ICE COLD! JK is sooo right...

btw, i cried today when i realised that kesar, having that fever, covered gulaal up... man, that's the sweetest thing anyone can ever do...😭

oh, i am still tearing up...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalini92

gulaal is ICE COLD! JK is sooo right...


btw, i cried today when i realised that kesar, having that fever, covered gulaal up... man, that's the sweetest thing anyone can ever do...😭

oh, i am still tearing up...

That was a lovely scene😳
If you watch the scene where they found Kesar, and what he said and then what Gulaal said to JK - it all connected didnt it, coz that is what that scene confirmed in what Gulaal said to JK
Gulaal has double the barriers up after she came back, and she will be more distant and angry and will lash out
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Talli and Kesar secret hiding place😳
The dumbest thing they could have come up with😡😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Srushti-

Talli and Kesar secret hiding place😳
The dumbest thing they could have come up with😡😆

I mean they were childhood friends 😆😆 -
Shame they had to put that in, i mean the place we know he goes to when he is angry is the cow-shed 😆
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Lennie nice take...as usual..me also wanted to defend gulaal's actions ..but today made me take back my words...this is not the gulaal we know...she knew raman wanted to kill kesuda but still was cooking meals happily for him...she cared for everyone..even if ppl hurt her but why is she stone hearted with kesar..he was ill but she didn't take care😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Lennie nice take...as usual..me also wanted to defend gulaal's actions ..but today made me take back my words...this is not the gulaal we know...she knew raman wanted to kill kesuda but still was cooking meals happily for him...she cared for everyone..even if ppl hurt her but why is she stone hearted with kesar..he was ill but she didn't take care😡

Well they didnt exactly emphasised on it like when Kesar took care of Gulaal did they and that was turning point
We all go back and say Gulaal did thisand that with Raman and D and so on (we know why and we have seen it, but do we just hold it against her each time), when we need to see the situation now and why Gulaal is like that and why Kesar is like that and still being like that
Her and Kesar are on different level and emotions between them is high, its explosive, they push and pull each other
You always hurt the ones you love and care about, and Gulaal cares despite how much sterness and anger she has got in her and showing, isnt that what Kesar was being like when he came back and so on
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Lennie ..how are you?

I think I always knew that Gulaal and Kesar are stubborn but todays episode told me Gulaal is on a much higher level than Kesar 😆. Liked that she sat on the window while Kesar was asleep keeping an eye on him the whole night. And loved that she thought about the Kesar who had cared for her so much some time back. She really longs for that Kesar still...and is attached to THAT Kesar...not this one in front of her...who claims to love her and who (she thinks) is hellbent on having her. But little does she understand his real intentions which were so clearly written on his face when he woke up and saw Gulaal sitting there...there was so much peace on his face (which is a rarity these days) and he happily went to sleep. He just wants to be around Gulaal !!!

I can see that Gulaal has started becoming frustrated now with her being held responsible for whatever Kesar does...and in the middle of all this...even that little amount of concern she still has for Kesar gets dissolved into anger and is misconstrued by JK and Sudha. Anger that Kesar has done all this to her and is responsible for taking her Vasant away from her. She wants to care for Kesar but can't openly do that cuz she fears that Kesar will take it in the wrong way...but then again she has to pretend to take care of Kesar in front of the family which makes her more angry (btw...all we see nowadays is JK's family ..where is Paanba n Motabha)

Her anger and confrontational mode is riling up Kesar big time and his habit of going out of the way everytime gets him noticed again and again bhi😡...ohooo...kya karoon mein Kesar ka...just sit back and relax for a bit na now that Gulaal is back...and then think about getting her trust back...because she is not the one to give in easily. It was cute though to see him giving in to Gulaal when she sunaoed all khari-khoti to him about the patti matter.

And as always.. Talli is still lost somewhere else only *sigh*. But I think she is the only one in the family who understands both Gulaal and Kesar and their respective feelings for each other as they stand right now.
Edited by praniti - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: praniti

Hey Lennie ..how are you? Thanks, i am good and i hope you are too😊


I think I always knew that Gulaal and Kesar are stubborn They are, but Gulaal always had her reasons which he held onto, whilst Kesar is getting ziddi shall i purposely now, which is what is riling her up
but todays episode told me Gulaal is on a much higher level than Kesar 😆. Gulaal anger and coldness is way much higher, and as i said she has more of wall built around her, and you know woman's anger is much more explosive then men's i find esp a woman like Gulaal Liked that she sat on the window while Kesar was asleep keeping an eye on him the whole night. And loved that she thought about the Kesar who had cared for her so much some time back. She really longs for that Kesar still...and is attached to THAT Kesar...not this one in front of her...who claims to love her and who (she thinks) is hellbent on having her. But little does she understand his real intentions which were so clearly written on his face when he woke up and saw Gulaal sitting there...there was so much peace on his face (which is a rarity these days) and he happily went to sleep. He just wants to be around Gulaal !!! Exactly i do think on some levels she wants that Kesar back, and the Kesar she lost the day he left for boarding school, and we know on what terms he left on, the Kesar is front of her is just not making sense to her, and also anger in her as yet to be settled, coz she hasnt settled in herself, and the more Kesar does something like he did today, the more hostile she is gonna be and riled up. Kesar longs for the Gulaal he saw when he imagined her smiling, and get his peace back, but Gulaal is just not in the mood to be back to normal Gulaal, and the one he is hoping for - Gulaal is not the one to pretend about her emotions what she feels, is what she feels and we all saw what she feels, even though care and concern is there, but overshadowned by anger and so on

I can see that Gulaal has started becoming frustrated now with her being held responsible for whatever Kesar does...and in the middle of all this...even that little amount of concern she still has for Kesar gets dissolved into anger and is misconstrued by JK and Sudha. Anger that Kesar has done all this to her and is responsible for taking her Vasant away from her. She wants to care for Kesar but can't openly do that cuz she fears that Kesar will take it in the wrong way...but then again she has to pretend to take care of Kesar in front of the family which makes her more angry (btw...all we see nowadays is JK's family ..where is Paanba n Motabha) She is getting frustrated and taunts arent exactly helping by JK in whatever happens, she can take Sudha's as such coz in a way Gulaal thinks she deserves that and so on, but JK and Raman holing her responsible for what Kesar does to himself is getting to her, when she said to him, what is doing, what is he trying to prove, not only that she is also not settling well into the household as JK as said to her she hasnt got the place that she had before. If we go back to what Gulaal says when she walks back home on Monday, is what Gulaal is today and why she is so much angry on Kesar and then he goes and does something that makes it all difficult, it just stirs the anger more, as you say the little care she has is replaced.
I am not sure even if Kesar realises that he is fuelling her anger, coz really what is he hoping for from Gulaal in that he does

Her anger and confrontational mode is riling up Kesar big time and his habit of going out of the way everytime gets him noticed again and again bhi😡...ohooo...kya karoon mein Kesar ka...just sit back and relax for a bit na now that Gulaal is back...and then think about getting her trust back...because she is not the one to give in easily. It was cute though to see him giving in to Gulaal when she sunaoed all khari-khoti to him about the patti matter.
That is the thing, its one after the other Kesar is doing and it all started last week, neither is he settling or letting her settle, he says he wants to give Gulaal happiness, but from what angle is that happiness or attempting to come from, when he goes and does this today and then what he will do in the precap... it makes you think
Her faith and trust is somewhat destroyed and he needs to gain it

And as always.. Talli is still lost somewhere else only *sigh*. But I think she is the only one in the family who understands both Gulaal and Kesar and their respective feelings for each other as they stand right now. Thats what i have always seen Talli as, someone who is both close to them both and sees both their sides and isnt taking sides as such, but in a way does give Kesar an angle to see about Gulaal but he just seems to rile up

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Srushti-

Talli and Kesar secret hiding place😳
The dumbest thing they could have come up with😡😆

AngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngryAngry...just for Talli...Talli was not that intimate with Kesar.. She came for short time in Kesar's life during childhood. It was all about Gulaal and Kesar.

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