Things I Noticed - 06/29/11

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I just about got done watching the show and feel this incessant need to vent about it ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜† - so here goes my random rant.. It may be too long and if that's so, I apologize in advance.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

  • Okay, I'm not going to lie.. Taali's last/first dialogue made NO sense to me.. I mean it was so abrupt! It made no sense to me yesterday and it made no sense to me today.. Baat kuch ho rahi thie aur beech mein achanak sey "Kesar, tu Gulaal ka pyaar paana chahta hai ya usey hamesha hamesha k liye khona chahta hai?".. Hein?! ๐Ÿ˜† What?! *scratches head* Who said anything about wanting to loose Gulaal?! No wonder Kesar was so taken aback - he's NEVER implied, suggested or even THOUGH about having to loose Gulaal (as he said).. I mean even recently when Gulaal left, I don't think Kesar ever felt like he'd "lost" her.. As he mentioned today, the sole reason for his need to make her stay was because SHE loved the house (as much as she claims otherwise!) and he just wanted her happy and around him.. But even if she HAD to live away from him, I don't think Kesar would ever truly feel that loss of connection where he'd feel he's "lost" Gulaal.. Like he said, he's her parchayi.. She's always in his thoughts and I'm willing to bet that to a certain degree he's always in hers (even if it isn't out of affection for now). So really, Talli's question about having to loose Gulaal was the first Kesar ever heard of it and I think that was the first time he ever realized that it MAY have been a possibility too.. Because it's after that comment that he gets even more restless and now he really wants to know what his "fault" is and what else he COULD have done?! I mean he'd pleaded with her, he'd begged, he'd tried to go to her house and placate her logically and he'd tired to just stubbornly ask her to return too (that night when he goes out side of her window and asks her to come home).. He'd done EVERYTHING and he'd done it all only to see Gulaal happy! To see her where she feels she belongs.. And if he was getting a bit of happiness along with it, toh WHY does THAT become the sole point that everyone focuses on and why is that used to belittle his intentions by calling them "selfish"!? I really do want to know just as much as Kesar does - WHY is he the one who's being considered at fault here?! Didn't Gulaal leave the house too? Isn't that something that people should be upset about too? Didn't she disregard a decision she herself had initiated in the first place - panchayaat mein Gulaal hi gayi thie! So why is it that Gulaal can do everything and get away with it scot free in the name of "turmoil".. But if Kesar does anything to placate his "turmoil", he's considered a bratty child who lets his temperamental moodiness rule his actions?! *shakes head* No wonder her rushed out of there - I think I'm a little frustrated FOR him.. ๐Ÿ˜†
  • Oh God! This Sudhama has totally jamaoed kabza on the kitchen! ๐Ÿ˜† If only she'd jamaoed such kabza on her husband and not been so spineless - if only.. *sigh* Khair.. Ye bhi dekh lete hain.
  • Jamuna Kaki is up front and center when it comes to passing taunts and snide remarks, but koi zara sa bhi kuch wapis bol dey toh aag lag jati hai! ๐Ÿ˜† Totally random, but I was Gulaal, I'd have made lame/annoying comments in front of Jamuna Kaki (and most likely addressed to HER alone) just to piss her off.. ๐Ÿคฃ
  • I'm going to have to say that I really feel for Gulaal in the current episodes.. *hides from chappals*.. ๐Ÿ˜† I mean, really.. She's being FORCED beyond her wishes to do something she doesn't want to. Ever since Kesar came back, this silent forcing was omnipresent from her mother's and Jamuna Kaki's side.. for the past week or so (in serial time) Gulaal's had to bear so much family pressure to accept Kesar... something she feels she cannot do and does not WANT to do! I mean sure Kesar is a nice guy and we know he really would keep her happy and that he loves her and she'd love him too if she gives herself a chance, but if we put all this aside for one minute and just for the sake of this argument think about this whole scenario from Gulaal's perspective we'd realize just how much of a psychological torture she's been through in the past couple of days. From finding out that her decisions (to perform deeyarvatu with Kesar or to get Kesar married to Talli) have all back fired and created trouble/pain for those involved (something she never wanted!) to realizing that Kesar not only had been unintentionally hurt by her decision of deeyarvatu but now also loves her (something she just cannot accept as long as she lives in her Vasant world) to having to bear the CONSTANT pressure from her mother where she felt unwelcome/unwanted in her own house to being FORCED against her will to return to a place that would remind her of the ugly truth (as she sees it) when all she wants to do is live her life in blissful ignorance.. This almost complete loss of any personal freedom that she may have had in the matter, this utter disregard for HER feelings (as she sees them).. And then to have to bear Jamuna Kaki's constant comments about her not being a good "patni" when she clearly hasn't accepted the relationship or even felt remotely less hostile about it.. *sigh* This is all too much! It would be for anyone! And really, it is NO wonder k being as cornered as she's been, that she lashes out at Kesar in as hurtful a manner as possible. She's hurting/confused and going through a constant sense of helplessness! Again, similar to what Kesar had felt with regards to his feelings for Gulaal earlier in the year.. So I really do not hold Gulaal's behavior against her.. I just wish, again, that she find the courage in her to take that leap of faith, step out side of the boundary she's sketched around her and really give happiness a chance.. *sigh*
  • Oh Kesar! *sigh* I really feel for him - for his constant loss of clarity.. Hamesha, har waqt, kisi na kisi baat pe he's always lost! Pehley he was in a constant state of turmoil with regards to what he felt for Gulaal - the whole cocktail of emotions that he couldn't reconcile and understand.. And now that he's understood what he wants, now that he KNOWS what he feels, he's having to justify it to everyone without anyone else bothering to give him any answers in return! He has to justify his love, prove himself in front of Gulaal, the rest of the family and the samaj.. But neither Gulaal nor rest of the family or the samaj is willing to extend him the same courtesy and just TELL him what he did WRONG?! WHY can he not love Gulaal? Is it because of his age? And if so, WHY would it be perfectly okay were the male and female roles reversed?! Or is it because of the self-induced boundary that Gulaal has placed herself in - the one where she's forever going to live her life in VASANT's house fulfilling VASANT's dreams with no regards for her OWN dreams or Kesar's for that matter? He has so many questions, so much he doesn't understand simply because he isn't tainted by the "should" and "should nots" of the society.. *sigh*.. On another note though, I really did love how he is slowly realizing the reason/logic (however twisted it may be) behind Gulaal's reaction to his confessions and her behavior ever since. She's really enveloped herself in Vasant's memories and life as a desperate attempt to maintain her sanity post his death. Vasant k sapney, Vasant ka ghar, Vasant ka gaon.. It was all she did to keep Vasant live in her heart and consequently make her live a little more bearable by keeping his thoughts close by. She hasn't wanted change and is quite frankly scared of it.. But that's okay - that's alright, Kesar says.. He doesn't want her to love him.. He doesn't need her to reciprocate his feelings.. All he asks for, all he wants is for her to give him credit for what HE says HE feels! To take his word for it when he tells her that he LOVES her.. To not disregard his emotions for her or insult them by being entirely too dismissive of them.. And to view his emotions and love just as what it IS - a love that's selfless, that reveres her.. To accept that he does truly LOVE her and want her happy.. Just to give him credit for when he said he KNOWS what he feels! *sigh* It's ironic how Gulaal is so convinced of what she feels - of the love she still feels for Vasant or the love/care she feels for Talli and Sudha - she's so convinced and expects Sudha to believe it and Talli to trust in it.. Heck, she even asked Kesar to trust her feelings for him - that when she tells him she wants what's best for him and for the family, that he not question her judgement. She'd asked him not to doubt her "imandari".. Yet she has no qualms about turning around and doubting his.. *sigh* Haye Gulaal! If only you'd stop and realize that Kesar isn't an "immature child" who throws tantrums and doesn't know what he wants.. Just because he doesn't understand the twisted rules of samaj does not hint at a lack of maturity - but rather points towards a greater sense of one.. (Waise I really loved his dialogues! Such brilliance they were.. You were right Anu jee! ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜†)
  • So Gulaal, apparently you'd left your "atma" outside the house, eh? *smirks* Toh do you mind explaining why Jamuna Kaki's "tera is ghar sey rishta hi kya hai!" comment hurt you so? Especially since you'd claimed yourself to have severed all ties from this house now that Vasant isn't here and Kesar is technically NOT your husband in your eyes.. I mean wasn't THAT precisely your logic behind leaving the house (or so you claimed) - k because Kesar can never be your husband in your eyes, that you have consequently no relationship with the house too.. *shakes head* Oh Gulaal! *smirks some more*
  • And I really liked how Baapji KNEW k Gulaal was unhappy.. I mean I was having my doubt when he didn't even flinch at the sight of her gigantic ansoo.. ๐Ÿ˜† But it turns out he was just entertaining her assumption k she had convincingly lied to him.. Right up until he reaches out and wipes her tears.. And then she knows that her pain isn't hidden anymore. I love how she didn't need to spell it out for Baapji - he just knew and later she knew that he did.. And that one silent stare that passed between them before he turned around and left - it felt like Gulaal was pleading him to not ASK about the tears or speak the words.. *sigh some more*
  • I know Poonamba means well for her daughter but I just CANNOT stand her. Especially after her recent "Kesar tera pati hai! Tu ghalat hai Gulaal!" jaap.. I mean I really know she means well.. but I think I need a time out from her.. ๐Ÿ˜†
  • LOL! Gulaal's STILL using her ever trusting delivery service a.k.a. Talli?! Lol! Oh Lord Gulaal! And I'm sure Talli maharani bhi ley jateen araam sey without making her take it (aik baar suggest karna is NOT enough! I mean does she NOT know how vehemently Gulaal opposes Kesar's thoughts? Toh aik do baar aur bolna toh banta hi tha!).. Woh toh bhala ho "Sudha-ma" ka jo woh time pe aa gayen.. ๐Ÿ˜† Although I have to say that her "meri bachi ki zindagi barbad kardi" wala comment just had me fuming again! Ajeeb melodrama hai bhai! BARBAD ho gayi Talli ki zindagi? How so, pray tell? Abhi bhi she lives at home with respect, gets fed and clothed and is loved by all.. EVEN the guy who ditched her at the alter has since apologized and has treated her with respect.. toh please explain k aisi KAUNSI barbadi dekh li aap ki beti ne! Other then off course suffer from her first heart break - one that was more self induced than anything else with major enabling from your end.. *rolls eyes* Nautanki...
  • LOL!! So you don't care about Kesar, haan Gulaal? You don't want to see his face and you don't feel a special connection with him? Because all your "haq" and "rishte" are solely for and with Vasant? *smirks some more* If that's true then I'm absolutely sure that I've wings growing out my back.. *smirks*

Oops.. Sorry for the long post guys.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ But in all fairness, maine pehley warn kar diya tha! ๐Ÿ˜† Now I'm eagerly waiting for tomorrow! *yawns* But first it's time to hit the bed.. ๐Ÿฅฑ

P.S. I'm not sure what to name this so I guess I'll just stick with the "Things I Noticed" hi.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ I am suffering from a clear lack of creativity from sleep deprivation.. Toh apologies for not being original.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 14 years ago
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oh fantastic write-up, i loved it ๐Ÿ‘ n specially these lines:

LOL! Gulaal's STILL using her ever trusting delivery service a.k.a. Talli?! Lol! Oh Lord Gulaal! And I'm sure Talli maharani bhi ley jateen araam sey without making her take it (aik baar suggest karna is NOT enough! I mean does she NOT know how vehemently Gulaal opposes Kesar's thoughts? Toh aik do baar aur bolna toh banta hi tha!).. Woh toh bhala ho "Sudha-ma" ka jo woh time pe aa gayen.. ๐Ÿ˜† Although I have to say that her "meri bachi ki zindagi barbad kardi" wala comment just had me fuming again! Ajeeb melodrama hai bhai! BARBAD ho gayi Talli ki zindagi? How so, pray tell? Abhi bhi she lives at home with respect, gets fed and clothed and is loved by all.. EVEN the guy who ditched her at the alter has since apologized and has treated her with respect.. toh please explain k aisi KAUNSI barbadi dekh li aap ki beti ne! Other then off course suffer from her first heart break - one that was more self induced than anything else with major enabling from your end.. *rolls eyes* Nautanki...

nautanki hahahahahaha ๐Ÿคฃ superb ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
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Posted: 14 years ago
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TINs are back...Fivrey...Welcome welcome๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Woah, why did you stop writing? I loved it.

Sudha and the kitchen: if you think about it she stopped Gulaal from entering the kitchen because it's the only thing she can control. I mean Talli is her daughter, yet she follows Gulaal 24/7. She could be jealous that no one even loves her, or she thinks that. If you look at her relationship with Raman, she could feel that he is in control of her just because he knows that she loves him.

If you get me x) I just woke up with the biggest headache and im texting all this. Sorry. :D
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This is absolutely bang on about all these characters. Very enjoyable reading and please do write some more like this. And thank you for a refreshing take on things at Gullulland.
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Great post...๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Talli to trust in it.. Heck, she even asked Kesar to trust her feelings for him - that when she tells him she wants what's best for him and for the family, that he not question her judgement. She'd asked him not to doubt her "imandari".. Yet she has no qualms about turning around and doubting his.. *sigh* Haye Gulaal! If only you'd stop and realize that Kesar isn't an "immature child" who throws tantrums and doesn't know what he wants.. Just because he doesn't understand the twisted rules of samaj does not hint at a lack of maturity - but rather points towards a greater sense of one.. (Waise I really loved his dialogues! Such brilliance they were.. You were right Anu jee! ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜†)

Loved these..lines...โญ๏ธ
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Yay! TINs have now been inaugurated in the Gulaal forum! Wooohoo!๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜†

Awesome as always, Fivray!

I told you I loved the Kesar scenes in this epi...he got to explain his feelings more clearly...the bits that stood out to me were him explaining WHY he brought her back...his GUILT that HE drove her out of the home that means everything to her and where all her happiness lies...I also loved his "Mere dil mein uske liye kya jagah hai, main tujhe kaise samjhaun"...line...makes you think that the magnitude of his emotions for Gulaal is just on a whole another plane.

I loved his parting outburst..."Yeh sirf MERI hi galti kyun maani jaa rahi hai?" SO true...fine he has made some mistakes in his approach...even if he too was pushed to them in a sense...but everyone IS piling on him in a sense...not that Gulaal isn't facing her own pressures like you said...she's got her own mother and then JK breathing down her neck in different ways...and that Sudha as well...but there are still some ppl who give her understanding...her father, Paanba, Motabha...NO ONE gives KESAR any understanding.

And that is why we see him driven to GOD as a last resort...you know these kind of "mandir mein bhagwaan ko confront karna" kind of scenes can be made so cheesy in movies and TV shows...but I thought it was very well handled yesterday...once again Kesar's STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS as a character is what I like so much...even as he laid out all his anguish in front of God...I especially liked his line about "Duniya ke yeh dhakosle MERI samajh mein nahin aate! Aur main samajhna CHAHTA bhi nahin!"..."Sahi galat, achha, bura yeh main DUNIYA ki nazar se KYUN dekhun?"...Fantasticcc dialogues! And I also loved the "Kya pyar karne ki koi hadh ya seema ho sakti hai? Kya pyar kabhi naap-toal ke kiya jaa sakta hai?"...Aww Kesar...your heart really goes out to him in this scene...sach NO ONE has the answers to his questions...bechara kare bhi toh kya?

Anyways, this scene deffo indicated that God will help him now...lol...especially with that significant si flute tune playing in the end.

I also loved the scene b/w Gulaal and Revji bhai...very poignant as you wonderfully described...I do feel bad for Gulaal too yaar...I feel bad for both of them in different ways...but that is the genius of the story...they make you empathize with all viewpoints.

And yes I too rolled my eyes at Gulaal still trying to use Talli as her 'delivery service' as you said...LOL...seriously Gulaal you can't hide behind Talli forever...waise bhi Kesar can see through you...*cough* blanket scene *cough* :P :P haha
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๐Ÿฅณ Wow so TINs are moving to Gulaal forum. that's awesome Fivr ji for u to continue it.
Fabulous write-up.๐Ÿ‘
I'm so lost as to what Kesar and Gulaal should do now? ๐Ÿ˜’ Usually I'm always think that I can predict something but not in Kesar-Gulaal case. yeah I feel bad for Gulaal for coming back home considering that she doesn't want to be Kesar's wife. She has never looked at him as her husband ever. but then Kesar is right in his way as well as to why he can not be accepted as Gulaal's husband. don't know where they'll lead this story but I'm certainly hooked to it. how they will resolve kesar-gulaal relationship is what fascinates me the most. ๐Ÿ˜ณ I believe Gulaal cares for Kesar. She's not willing to accept it. thoda time lagega. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Fivr ji, can we have one TIN on BALH forum.๐Ÿ˜ณ I want to read what u think of all the characters especially Nuts. ๐Ÿคฃ

Thanks for the wonderful TIN. ๐Ÿค—
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thank you every one for your lovely comments! I'm a bit swamped at work right now but I'll reply to each of your posts individually as soon as I get some free time! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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@trudecent: Lol! Thank you jee.. *blushes* Woh kya hai na, Sudhama and Taali's presence in the scene just irks me these days.. After the way they've acted it just annoys me to hear them talk. They have a long way to go before they redeem themselves in my eyes.. ๐Ÿ˜†

@Srushti: Arey yaar.. Back ka toh pata nahi.. But if an episode gives me something to think about/say then I'll try to put it down as semi-decently as possible! ๐Ÿ˜ณ Ab actual mein kitna decent hoga ye toh waqt hi bataye ga.. ๐Ÿคฃ

@Gulaalfreak:
I do realize that Sudha's reaction in this situation has been largely influenced by her own past. The fact that her husband ill treated her (and still does), her mother-in-law never gives her the time of day and over all she's always felt like Taali is the ONLY constant in her life that she can count on for her happiness and find solace in.. So when she sees Taali hurt just the same way by a guy she was supposed to marry and mainly because that guy loves SOMEONE ELSE (hence reminding her of her own husband's numerous affairs), I totally see why she's like to exercise some "control".. and why she's so aggravated.. But it still doesn't excuse her for the hypocrisy that she exhibits in her decisions.. The way she has let herself and HER failure for not protecting her daughter better entirely slide.. NOT even a little bit of the blame is shifted on her incompetency.. Sara blame Kesar aur Gulaal pe?! *rolls eyes* Woh ghalat they toh, Sudha jee bhi kum nahi theen.. People living in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜†
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@bintus02:
Thank you for reading! I'm glad you liked it. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

@chweetu: Thanks for appreciating.. I was just rambling on about whatever was running through my mind but I'm glad you liked it.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

@Ritz: I think it's the whole "what will they do now and HOW will they do it!" that is so intriguing in the first place.. I mean because really, we all know where this will end (hopefully!).. We can safely assume that Kesar and Gulaal will be with each other eventually.. But just the path the take to go about it.. That is such an interesting thing to watch, nahi..? ๐Ÿ˜

Lol! BALH k barey mein toh nahi pata.. I can't sit through a whole episode of that thing.. The chillar party (as they have been dubbed since) really do get on my nerves.. ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜†




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