Neil's expressive best:A weak and vulnerable Kesar

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Accurate and factual is the saying that a woman can indeed make or break a man. This applies well to Kesar. When Gulaal left him yesterday, I think Kesar took the refuge of his letters. All the letters are strewn around indicating that he has read each and everyone all over again. I guess he has dozed off in exhaustion probably of crying and we find his hands holding onto the letter, the hands not eased out, he hasn't dropped the letter in his sleep, and he is subconsciously alert to hold onto the letters.

When Jamna kaaki is stroking him up from sleep, his grip on the letters is firm. He tried to foolishly cover up saying inland letters are papers from his book, but JamnaKaki was bang on. She was smart to tell him to handle the letters later but the handle the "chittiwaali", the recipient of the letters. Stammering over the shocking information, he is totally clueless about the happenings.

Kesar comes down to reveal to all that Gulaal is lying and she has decided to leave because of him confessing his love for her.

She tried preventing him from announcing it in front of everyone. When he did declare to all that he loves her, everyone is shocked (why didn't they realize, or else why would he stop the wedding?). Gulaal is not able to meet Motaba's eyes. At that moment they exchanged glances and acknowledged the talk they had years before about what if Kesar starts to take a liking or start understanding this Deeyarvatu on his own terms. That flared her ego, she yelled at him for finding happiness by saying such unwanted things that too in front of elders. Kesar innocently claims he is in love with his wife. Our madam finds it as "SIN".

I could see traces of the child Kesar when he stopped her and was pleading with her not to go. She pushed him aside. He follows her and firmly says nothing is going to change his thoughts, feelings or

his love for her. Kesar very well knows that Gulaal would be able to live a life without him. In spite of knowing that truth, he was literally begging her, so tearful and almost on his knees saying he is just a shadow to her.

Neil gave a convincing performance portraying Kesar so vulnerable, hurt, and frustrated, being in love, fearing about losing his love, and in desperation to prevent her from leaving, Kesar lacked individuality. Kesar's anger is only temporary given the fact it is directed at others for her sake. He is nothing but out rightly emotionally influenced by this one woman Gulaal. To him, the world begins and ends with Gulaal. When Kesar said that why she should leave when he has just started understanding life, I felt bad for him because, at this juncture though he loves her in every way, even with the attraction to her from his end, he basically feels he can learn and transform himself into the person that all want him to be, provided Gulaal is with him. I am sure the actual hubby-wife relationship would have been the last thing on his mind at that moment.Kesar for the past two days is with a stubble and typically looking the guy feeling desolate due to a break up in love or a love-failure.

Somewhere I feel he needs some amount of reassurance from her to be his. Though I hated Gulaal for being so stone hearted, without giving a consideration to his feelings, somewhere I agree with what she said that he should at least try and uphold the family's honor than going weak on his knees in front of her. He has gone to the extent of picking up her earring from the ground and finding solace in holding on to something which is hers. I pity Kesar. If I were in Talli's situation watching him this way, I would have pitied myself for having been in love with him once. This can be labeled as pure love of Kesar, but any woman would fall for a man who has individuality to call his own.

The day Kesar becomes a self-made man; he would earn that respect from her. Not that I feel so great that he has to work so hard to get Gulaal's love (is she worth all this trouble??), but for his own personality, he needs to break free from her.

Neil, at the end of the show Gulaal, I would want to know how many bottles of glycerine were used up for Kesar.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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There's so many 'ifs' and 'buts' which are making my head spin.

On one side, I was kind of proud to see Kesar so uninhibited about his feelings in front of the entire family. Yet I also understood the embarrassment for Gulaal and MotaBa. I felt pity for Kesar when he went down on his knees but then I wanted him to stop being so vulnerable.

I agree that any girl would want a man with his own identity but I think the fact that Kesar is so attached to Gulaal is what makes him so...Kesar (?!). I haven't seen a lover quite like him and I don't want him to pull away from Gulaal at all. He needs her because she makes him want to be a better person and all he really requires is her presence. Kesar isn't asking for anything else except for her support.

He needs to get a hold of himself and use his love for Gulaal as a positive rather than something which makes him so weak.

Neil was fantastic!! He's just too too too good!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I dont get the proper words to express. One of the finest acting at display. neil was just too too good. Kesar without inhibitions and Kesar so open about his weakness in front of the woman he loves. But I too feel he needs to have some self-respect than begging her all the way. He has to now ignore her. She has taken him for granted. Sad day for Kesar, superb mindboggling acting by Neil. Love it
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very well written analysis👏

The first Kesar scene with the letters was so endearing I thought...that he took solace in those letters the entire night...probably stayed up reading them again half the night and fell asleep holding on to them...

I LOL'd at his lame excuse to Jamna-Kaaki as he scrambled to gather up and hide the letters...but obviously she didn't buy it...haha

I thought his stubble in the morning was a realistic touch to depict what must have been a largely sleepless night for Kesar as well.

As for the latter half...yes it was not very prudent of Kesar to blurt out the fact that he loves Gulaal like this in front of everyone else...but he said it with such pure, simple honesty...Kesar's character is such...he doesn't feel the need to hide what he perceives to be basic facts...least of all this...which I guess he perceives to now be the biggest fact of his life.


Yes, I too saw glimpses of the child Kesar in him when he stops her from leaving in the courtyard...that's when his real helplessness begins to show that he was willing to make himself that vulnerable, pitiable in a sense just to beg her to stay...Kudos to Neil for portraying all this so well...but this scene was difficult to watch...to see Kesar putting himself down to that level in his desperation.

And yes, how sad is it...that he told her he knows she might be able to live without him but he can't...begging her to stay for HIM as a last resort...cuz he knows no other way for his life...

I think the biggest insight into Kesar's mind in this scene was the way he said, "ab hi toh main apni zindagi ke maayne samjha hoon..."...and tells he won't be able to live without her.


Somewhere, Kesar too hit rock bottom today...maybe his love for Gulaal brought him to this level...he can't fathom a life without her because she is so ingrained in his soul, he knows no other way to live...that is why he is so broken.

But maybe this is for the best like you said...he needs to become stronger and not let his love for Gulaal be a weakness, like Reemz also pointed out in her post above.

I hope this can lead to a more mature Kesar becoming a self-made man like you said but at the same time, his love for Gulaal shouldn't turn him into a Devdas either.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: SarayuS

I dont get the proper words to express. One of the finest acting at display. neil was just too too good. Kesar without inhibitions and Kesar so open about his weakness in front of the woman he loves. But I too feel he needs to have some self-respect than begging her all the way. He has to now ignore her. She has taken him for granted. Sad day for Kesar, superb mindboggling acting by Neil. Love it

Exactly, gulaal has taken him for granted. I felt so bad when he went down on his knees. Gulaal only want kesar to do whatever she likes, like he doesnt have a life!!! kesar should now ignore her and make her realize the mistake!!! be a respectable man and then make her fall for him!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree. Kesar in his desperation, degraded himself so much.
Let his love remain, but he has to learn to live without her. I remember the scene where after marrying Kesar, Gulaal says he will grow up to be someone whom the whole house and village will be proud of. Kesar has a long way to reach that destination. But what Gulaal fails to understand is that without her support and guidance he is not even willing to live let alone become the way that they all want him to.
The love and physical aspects of this marriage is what makes her close all doors to him.
They need to sort it out. I don't see a positive change in story in making Kesar so desperate and dependant. That is not the way it should turn out to be that she sympathises with him.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Whatever said and done, Neil is so natural in his flawless acting that we tend to feel sorry for Kesar even more. Those tears can melt anyone, BUT GULAAL
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ganga!!! *rubs her eyes and reads it again*
Oye,,,Is it Ganga's thread I am reading😲
and she is supporting Gullu...
LOL I was so afraid of writing clear cut like you on my thread afraid of your chappals😆
but you are right !! bang on!! he cannot be like this.he needs to get up!!
Fanttoo analysis😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Meysimi - again well said
I think you have said what i wanted to in my post but i think it didnt come out well in what i was trying to say, esp in Kesar's case
Kesar i did see flashes of little Kesar today, which i so wished i didnt, coz you want to see a non vunerable Kesar and a man i will say
I did say that this seperation i find will be good not only for Gulaal but also for Kesar, and try to change as well - i dont think i quite put how he should change, but like you said was right he needs his own identity in the self made man, where he can get respect and get her love and respect as well and see a different Kesar as well, not just her Kesar even though deep down he will always be her Kesar, as Kesar knows
Reemz i has it as well - he needs to get a hold of himself and turn his love into positive and gain strength from it and live in it (and i dont mean ache in pain but live in it, that its somewhat fuilfilling to him), feel life in it and be somewhat selfless - in the sense make himself useful all around, to other ppl and so on
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Rightly written Meysimi.

I saw from the part where kesar runs behind Gulal and tell her not to go, as u rightly said i felt that a small is crying loosing his precous gift, but must say Neil had had done the scene superbly well. the way he fell on his knees and wass aying dont go... in my mind i thought poor boy😕, how sad, dont worry dear.,
but i still cant understad y is the family so confused and y dont they have a word to say. they all look tongue tied as they are there only to listen😲.
yah i quiet like the suble beard on him , he really looks like a love lorn puppy or say a majnu now. (a teenage guy who has lost his love )
AND YAH AOUT THE AMOUNT OG GLYERINE USED...I too have a doubt as to how many and by now are his tear gland working, infact i wanted to open a new thread on his tears, butsince u mentioned it, I am not opening one
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