Oh C'mon - Jagiya not so much at fault.

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I know that after today's episode and the future track, I might not be the most popular person here, but I had to say this.

Jagiya's feelings for Anandi changed in the first 6 months of his going to Mumbai. He disowned her when she went to Mumbai. She even met Gauri there and saw for herself how close Jagya and Gauri were and there was an understanding that Gauri would play the hostess in his party. In her confrontation with Jagiya - he actually said that their marriage was a mistake and he considers her a gawar and she should move on.
Anandi knew about his feelings but kept it hidden from her family.

Then when he came home in the hols of the first year, he was exposed in front of the family, that he does not consider Anandi his wife and that he like the lifestyle of Mumbai.

Is it his fault that for 5 years, his family refuses to accept what he is telling them and continue to live in dreamland? Is it his fault that after he tells his family that he considers Anandi gawar, for 5 years they keep her uneducated? He has been steadfast on his stand from the beginning. It is only when the family came out of their fool's paradise that they started thinking of how to tackle the situation. But 5 years is along time to let things slip from bad to worse.

If anyone is at fault it is Bhairon and Anandi who refused to see the truth until their noses were rubbed into it. These two think themselves super-smart and know-it-alls, but it is they who are in a large way responsible for the mess they are in today.

Jagya might be a weak character and he might have betrayed every relationship, but he has been true to Gauri even at the cost of losing his family, wealth and social position.
Anandi has the backing of the family, the position of the DIL of the first family of Jaitsar and ample financial backing. If Anandi has lost a husband, Jagya has lost everything in gaining Gauri.

Yet this is not to say that I support Jagya and Gauri at all. I think they are both wrong and hoping to build their own happiness at the cost of someone else is not going to lead them anywhere. But Jagya is not as black as he is painted to be.

Gauri till this day was a victim of deception, but today after knowing the entire story, when she decided to go-ahead with this marriage, she is architect of her own future misery.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Just for greener pastures, Jagya treated Anandi badly, VERY badly. If he really didn't like her because she was gawar and all that, then he should have taken the initiative to educate her himself. And when anandi did try to gain education, he was the one who went GREEN with jealousy seeing how good she did.

He just wanted a reason to break it off from her because he found someone else...
He hasn't been true to Gauri...firstly he LIED to her. any relationship on the basis of lie is not real.
Jagya didn't lose everything by gaining Gauri. He had ALREADY lost everything after showing his behavior to his father after rejecting the hospital...to anandi. This hoity behavior in addition to rejecting anandi was why he lost everything. He gained Gauri after, using this towards his advantage.

In conclusion, Jagya is at fault. He was opportunistic, manipulative and so much more. His influence has rubbed off on Gauri and she is making senseless decisions w/o thinking...these two I tell you.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Life is not all black and all white. It is a good thing that one appreciates certain people or characters who are shown to be good and selfless, but not good to be passionately blind to everything else.

I'm not saying that Jagiya is a "doodh ka dhula hua masoom baccha" but neither is he the heartless villain he is being painted as on this forum.

I'm neither for Jagiya, because he is supposedly good-looking (no he is not in my opinion, Bhairon and Basant are much better looking guys) nor am I vehemently against him because he has rejected Anandi. All I am saying is that the signs that he is disenchanted were all there and screaming for attention but the family refused to see it. So if he is at fault then the family is also at fault for the mess of today's situation.

If he had rejected her saying that she is gawar, Bhairon and Anandi should not have given in to Dadisa's command that she should not be educated. Instead they should've pointed out to her that Anandi's education was the only means of bringing the estranged couple together.

More than Jagiya it was Anandi's interest to further her education and she failed to do so. She chose the path of least resistance and it led her to a dead-end. Unless she fights for her rights, no one is going to do so.

Btw, if you are following the show regularly, you would notice that Jagiya lost the family support after he told Bhairon that he would not dump Gauri. Even after he rejected the hospital and was rude to everyone in the village, his family agreed to send him back to Mumbai for his MS and took care of his fees and everything. After his relationship with Gauri was exposed and he rfused to break it off, did the family decide to cut him off.

Secondly he might have lied to Gauri about his marital status, but so did Gauri by hiding her disastrous marriage and its consequences. In effect so far as they both knew, both were married to someone else and were living ina n adulterous relationship. In case of Gauri, she is saved somewhat by the fact that her husband happened to be Jagiya only, but she did not know that. So she is even more in the wrong than Jagiya.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: gangubai1

I know that after today's episode and the future track, I might not be the most popular person here, but I had to say this.

Jagiya's feelings for Anandi changed in the first 6 months of his going to Mumbai. He disowned her when she went to Mumbai. She even met Gauri there and saw for herself how close Jagya and Gauri were and there was an understanding that Gauri would play the hostess in his party. In her confrontation with Jagiya - he actually said that their marriage was a mistake and he considers her a gawar and she should move on.
Anandi knew about his feelings but kept it hidden from her family.

Then when he came home in the hols of the first year, he was exposed in front of the family, that he does not consider Anandi his wife and that he like the lifestyle of Mumbai.

Is it his fault that for 5 years, his family refuses to accept what he is telling them and continue to live in dreamland? Is it his fault that after he tells his family that he considers Anandi gawar, for 5 years they keep her uneducated? He has been steadfast on his stand from the beginning. It is only when the family came out of their fool's paradise that they started thinking of how to tackle the situation. But 5 years is along time to let things slip from bad to worse.

If anyone is at fault it is Bhairon and Anandi who refused to see the truth until their noses were rubbed into it. These two think themselves super-smart and know-it-alls, but it is they who are in a large way responsible for the mess they are in today.

Jagya might be a weak character and he might have betrayed every relationship, but he has been true to Gauri even at the cost of losing his family, wealth and social position.
Anandi has the backing of the family, the position of the DIL of the first family of Jaitsar and ample financial backing. If Anandi has lost a husband, Jagya has lost everything in gaining Gauri.

Yet this is not to say that I support Jagya and Gauri at all. I think they are both wrong and hoping to build their own happiness at the cost of someone else is not going to lead them anywhere. But Jagya is not as black as he is painted to be.

Gauri till this day was a victim of deception, but today after knowing the entire story, when she decided to go-ahead with this marriage, she is architect of her own future misery.



Thank you thank you sooo much for brining this up...My thoughts exactly and I completely agree with you...Even though I havent supported Jagya's antics...I never found him to be a heartless person as most of the people here exaggerate and portray him...I mean I dont have an issue with it...I always say every person has their own view on things and if people think that way its perfectly fine...But I dont think Jagya is that bad a person that he is made out to be...and I completely concur with all that you have written...its not just Jagya...Anandi is equally at fault...I have always said that...taali ek haath se nahin bajthi...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh!! Thank goodness for your support divmath. I was sure that I'm going to be completely massacred here today. Having been a more or less silent reader on the various fora here I know how passionate people become about fictional characters.

Somehow in this case I just had to bring the other angle in. In life unless we learn to see the other side of the story, we can never win or for that matter begin to fight any battle. Like you rightly said "Taali ek haath se nahi bajati". I just wanted to play the Devil's advocate here to provoke people to see the other side of the story too.
Edited by gangubai1 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@gangubai1 - you Rock...good points !!...

man...I thought I was the only one in this forum who thinks Jagya is not completely black...I know he is grey...hey but come on he is a human after all...now if Anandi is a sati savitri devi demi goddess...what can I say...one character who I can never ever relate to...I bet there is no single human being on this earth who can be "that" good...I mean give me a break...her saccharine sweetness is such a turn off...Jagya even after being selfish and rude is more human...than Anandi who is like right next to some goddess...tyaag, balidaan, ohh so bechaari...miss goody two shoes...who the hell does all that? any normal girl would have stood up against the atrocities she was subjected to...she just chose to keep mum and act like nothing happened...I call it plan stupidity...and now reap what you sow...want to remain in everyone's good books...your own book of life will get burnt and that exactly what happened...
Edited by divmath - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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gangubahi awesome dude,u stole my words, i wanted to say these things but i did not know how i should say it.

honestly many ppl think there r two persons in this word balck and white ,
actually most of the ppl in this word r grey, and situations bring out the best and worst from everyone , the same happened with j
if ppl ca sympathise with maasa who i believe is the root cause of whats happening with jags then why any problem when someone synpathises with jagya😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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We have to support such people who go through such things by giving them moral , emotional and financial support.

The girls who under go such atrocities , are not quiet because they are "good" or trying to be the symbol of goodness , rather its because , they know nothing better.

ITs a mindset of people in such areas and places.

Girls believe that, they HAVE to be quiet no matter what the husband says and does.
He is Parmeshwar type , and they have no say and no voice.
And if they were to revolt, they will have sin on their head.


This is what BV has shown, Dadisa continuously saying, Thaaray beendh ko sambhalna tharo dharam hove hai.

Eat in their jhoota thali ,

live a life of a widow , an abshaghuni cause the beendh is gone.

How can we expect girls from such backdrop to revolt. THey are brainwashed.

So Anandi is exactly in the same situation. She did not know better how to react to Jagya's cheating and her findings about him going away from her.

Its not goodness, its ignorance. and She rightly said on May 17th episode that I do not blame anyone by myself.
I gotten the punishment of living a life with a closed eye and in her own fantasy world.

So Yes, Anandi is NOT at fault and always Jagya will remain at fault.

I am glad that Anandi is trying to get up from the ashes and trying to make herself better and people around her better.

Thats Anandi!
The girl who works for others
A person who cares about others.

Not really a balidaan type girl, but a girl , just like any other girl who has gone through life's hardship and instead of dying , and stop living, she has chosen to raise up and fight for herself and people around her.

I for one will not attack her for something she is not at fault for.

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