Parents and fairy godmothers - 31 May

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Yesterday, we saw two different but very similar mothers. Neglectful, taking advantage of their children but not thankful for them. One we assumed was a stepmother (which was proved to be right today) and the other? Simply an absent mother. Which is worse? To be neglected because a woman who married your father doesn't consider you her son? Or a woman who gave birth to you ignoring you because you don't fit within her perfect life role?

First up for me today was the question of fathers. The two opening scenes - Ram at the wedding and Priya at the party - really opened up a lot of questions for me. As we saw yesterday, Ram was due - or wanted to - do his sister's kanyadaan. This implies that there is no father in the picture; perhaps he died young and Ram became the backbone of the family, the father figure who provides everything yet is not your father. His situation I understand - why he did not marry. Perhaps he got so bogged down in being a father that he forgot to be a man, a husband, a lover. Hota hain.

What is the excuse in Priya's family? She has a father. Yet, in that scene where he asks her why she did not marry, and then goes on to explain in detail how she had to take care of the family, her siblings' education etc, I was sitting here thinking well, where were you?! Where was the father amongst all this? Was he sleeping? What self-respecting father would let his daughter carry the burden of the entire family to her own detriment, unless he had no choice? Doesn't seem to me that he had no choice - though Priya was unhappy about it, she agreed to have her salary for the day cut, so it doesn't seem to me that the family are in any financial trouble. It remains to be seen, however, whether they have in the past been in such dire straits that Priya had to forgo her own life to provide for her family, but to me the characterisation of her father seems weak. He seems to love her to bits, but I cannot fathom a reason why he would let her suffer like she has. He seems the typical ineffectual man in all of Ekta's serials, the foil to his loudmouth, energetic, annoying wife.

Hence that scene between Priya and her father actually annoyed me rather than making me feel sad the way it should have done. I can't help but think that they must have had this discussion many times before - it cannot be the first time. So why have it again? Just to show the audience the juxtaposition between Ram and Priya? As Anu said earlier, this is bad writing. Stop telling us through endless dialogue and exposition - show us through action instead. I don't want Priya's father to stand there and tell me the story of her entire life in an episode; I want to discover this in snippets, in whispered conversations, in frustrated actions. I can't help but think that the writers of Ekta's shows have never read a good book, or watched a good movie, or studied a single creative writing class. I could write better than this. Clichs are not good storytelling - once upon a time, they were new, and they were good. Now they are overused, and they do not tell us any more than what they are, in and of themselves. They contribute nothing to the story except wasted opportunities and a few minutes on the clock.

That then flowed into the scene between Sudhir and Shipra (?), the eternal money vs education debate. Again, nothing we haven't heard before, though there was a part of me that understood Shipra's desperation; it's not so much the issue about a "lifestyle", but in a practical world, money is paramount to doing anything. That doesn't mean that education has no value, or that you need to marry old, rich men to "sustain a lifestyle", but somewhere in the middle, between money and education lies the balanced truth - in this world, you need both. The one thing I loved about that scene was Sakshi's subtle acting; the tears swam in her eyes but didn't fall dramatically - they were just there, filling her eyes up in a weary fashion. No one has the art of acting through the eyes down to tee like Sakshi 👏

By the way, that man does not look like Priya's father 😕😆 what is with the casting of these parents?!

Yeah, and enough with the "koi toh ho jo tere liye ho" blah blah - you've said it once, no need to bash us over the head with a hammer! Subtlety, Ekta, subtlety. We're not stupid.

There seem to be absolutely no emotions in any member of Ram's family; bad acting or deliberate? And dubbing again?! My God, what is the point of having actors? You might as well have made a cartoon show with voice over actors 😆

Again, Ekta - what is the need to give us Ram's whole backstory through his stepmother? Is no one at the party listening to this vitriol?! As loudly as they are speaking, I find it hard to imagine that no one can hear them 😕

Okay, yesterday, I sort of liked Vikram. Today, he is bugging me beyond belief. What is he, Ram's marriage broker? Or his fairy godmother? 😆 ENOUGH with the "you need to find someone to love you" spiel. We get it - why don't you DO something about it instead of going on and on?

Vikram's jealous wife Neha is going to get really annoying any minute now - oh, there it is. She's annoying. That scene was simply very random. How can a man who's married to a woman like that and has about a hundred kids advocate marriage to Ram? 😆 Beats me. If that's the (stereotypical) definition of marriage, spare me the horror (camp KJo style 😆)

Kids are cute though - esp. that curly haired one in the red shirt.

And no offence, but what kind of men drink wine from a martini glass? 😕 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


I had said before the show began that I did not want it to be some stereotypical clich about how marriage solves all problems and how those people who don't marry are so incredibly unfulfilled and lonely. And yet, that is exactly what this show is turning out to be. All these people shoving marriage down our throats because if you are unmarried, then - shock, horror! - you're weird! 😕 Or pitiable, or sad, or pathetic. Blah blah blah. Why can we not have a mature show that tells us that the answer to loneliness is NOT to immediately get married? The sad faces that Ram and Priya get whenever someone talks about their age or unmarried status; the pitying interference of Vikram and Priya's father. The long, boring bhaashans about how you need a soulmate to be complete. Ekta, if you hadn't done this before in 56768989654343256756787 shows, I would not have been so bored now. But since you have, why not try something new? Why not have Ram & Priya meet of their own accord, fall in love of their own choosing and marry for their own reasons rather than have an army of do-gooders and evil stepmothers battle it out for them?!






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Sonia51 thumbnail
Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: psawyer

But since you have, why not try something new? Why not have Ram & Priya meet of their own accord, fall in love of their own choosing and marry for their own reasons rather than have an army of do-gooders and evil stepmothers battle it out for them?!


1) then its not an arranged marriage
2) they're already in love

story's about falling in love after being arranged into a marriage.. and in most cases where arranged marriages are concerned, the family does it for their benefit as well as for the benefit of the person involved in the marriage (at least i hope.. that's how it is)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Fantastic!👏👏👏👏 Very well said. I too wanted to knock on my TV screen & ask the father what were you doing all the while your daughter was raising her whole family single handedly? There seems to be no justification in Priya letting her life flow by her.

Vikram too was very annoying>about his wife? The less said the better. I watched the whole scene in mute:P.
Agree the makers do not need to shove everything in our face.We are sensible enough to pick up nuances by ourselves.
Amazing write up.Enjoyed reading it.Waiting eagerly for the next😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sonia51


1) then its not an arranged marriage
2) they're already in love

story's about falling in love after being arranged into a marriage.. and in most cases where arranged marriages are concerned, the family does it for their benefit as well as for the benefit of the person involved in the marriage (at least i hope.. that's how it is)


Well, yes, but that's precisely my point. So far there is nothing I have seen in this show that is new or unique. We have seen the "fall in love after an arranged marriage" storyline in countless shows; the only thing that is different is their ages. I would have preferred EK show that two slightly older people "miss" their chance at marriage at a young age - meet, find something in common with the other and go from there. What value is there in the story where we have to have the idea of marriage shoved in our faces?

@Zuby - thanks. Yes, the wife scene was very screechy and not at all something I liked. Tarana is a good actress, but her character sorely reminded me of her character in the film Pyar ke Side Effects, except she was funny there.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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How is it arranged if RK goes on a blind date and meets Priya?
psawyer thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
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If he doesn't know he's going on a blind date, it is arranged. 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awesome post, Vasu bear🤗

Will comment in more detail after watching the epi ghar jaake but for now reading through your post, seems like today's epi wasn't much of a step up from yesterday's either...the makers do seem intent on shoving some stereotypes down our throat rather than working on character interaction/development *sigh*

[quote=psawyer]

I had said before the show began that I did not want it to be some stereotypical clich about how marriage solves all problems and how those people who don't marry are so incredibly unfulfilled and lonely. And yet, that is exactly what this show is turning out to be. All these people shoving marriage down our throats because if you are unmarried, then - shock, horror! - you're weird! 😕 Or pitiable, or sad, or pathetic. Blah blah blah.Why can we not have a mature show that tells us that the answer to loneliness is NOT to immediately get married? The sad faces that Ram and Priya get whenever someone talks about their age or unmarried status; the pitying interference of Vikram and Priya's father. The long, boring bhaashans about how you need a soulmate to be complete. Ekta, if you hadn't done this before in 56768989654343256756787 shows, I would not have been so bored now. But since you have, why not try something new? Why not have Ram & Priya meet of their own accord, fall in love of their own choosing and marry for their own reasons rather than have an army of do-gooders and evil stepmothers battle it out for them?! [/quote]

WORD👏👏👏 Oh I wish how for ONCE Ekta would make the EFFORT to ACTUALLY get out of her formula mode and look at the amazing potential in this concept and these actors...such TYPICAL writing again?! *sigh* This is what I was dreading...WHY make such becharas out of these characters just cuz they aren't married?? As if they are to be PITIED?? Here we all had such interesting discussions on these topics before the show started but looking at the actual show seems like we found more depth in all this than Ekta can EVER manage to aim for...since she's too busy running this as a BUSINESS empire rather than showing a story in an ENGAGING manner.


Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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😆 So Vikram will set up the meet saying an important phirangi client is eager to meet RK at a restaurant over a cosy candlelight dinner.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Couldn't agree more!

Although, I kinda liked today's episode than the first episode, somewhere I had expected it to be different from all Ekta shows.

What I dont like is that both Ram and Priya take every thwarting in their stride and say
"Sachh hi toh kaha usne" They are far from real life personalities. I cant connect with them bcuz they are strong in their own way- but we should bow down to their patience and tolerance level!

I dont like the family politics involved here. There are so many ways to show how a 40 year old man is lonely in life... so many ways to show Priya who seemed to be a die-hard believer of love hoping to find a suitable match for herself.

What I did not like was how all of a sudden Priya's parents are tensed and worried of unmarried daughter at 33? 😕 Why didn't the thought strike in her late 20's? I'm sure the mother might have tried hooking her up with some hotshot man? A businessman like Ram all busy in work is acceptable... but waiting for his mom to find a suitable match and sacrificing for them is so 🥱

Coming to what I liked- I liked how Priya's sister only aspires to marry a rich businessman and might not fulfil her mom's wish. The message was powerful in its own way. Education is important and success- temporary. Maybe sometime in future, we see the younger sister struggling for life and Priya- with education enjoying the luxuries and love both! 😊

The scene where both Priya's parents fight looked natural. And like you said, Priya's reaction was so touching. Saakshi 👏

Also liked the last scene between the friends. Sounded preachy but marriage does have its pros and cons and its all about adjusting and sharing responsibilities. Might sound complicated and tedious but better than solidarity!
Edited by shreya- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i kinda liked wat u said.. well d scenes d bhashans r already seen by all of us zillion times we want 2 see something new n fresh out of box.. i absolutely agree dat through snippets, whispers, agitation story shud b unfolded.. well neha's character might be annoying but she is shown as a normal wife who loves her husband n kids unconditionally.. yes its vikram who has annoyn wife n intolerable kids givin gyaan on marriage 2 ram bcoz he is happy where he is 2day..
n yes if ram had found priya n had fallen in love n got married den it wudnt evn match up d theme.. d theme is love after arrange marriage.. here two protagonist marry each other bcoz of their families wellness n ofcourse mothers hav their own selfish reasons.. m sure d mother who curses priya 2dy d same mother will go on sayin meri beti priya 2 d entire world after she marries ram :P

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