The lives that Radhika touched..31.5.11

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The story of insecure Padma, jealous Mohini, full of herself badi bahu, jealous Rohan, insecure Virat, trusting and confident Radhika, melancholic Dev, redeemed Chenu………..and amma…….mmm….not sure……..but mainly the journey of Radhika and the lives that she touched...

Badi bahu declares that Radhika will look after dadaji and Radhika confirms this and says that along with the ayurvedic medicines, dadaji will also get some of the older allopathic ones………strange I thought one has to stop one to start others……… Padmas insecurity flares up along with Mohinis jealousy……(both were right in what they pointed out) …….and Dev comes in Radhikas support maybe because badi bahu said it and also now Dev knows Radhika …..that she does not have any harmful bone in her body and that what she did she was forced to do…….which makes Rohan jealous…….Radhika tries to calm Padma down by saying that man is a victim to circumstances and that she understand Padma the mothers POV and that any danger to Purohits will have to pass through her…….which makes badi bahus eyebrows go up…😆…..and Virat is thoughtfull mood that now what is this girl upto.😆 In badi bahus room Virat still is not sure but badi bahu continues that the medicines will be given but by someone else………..and amma walks in…who is illiterate so badi bahu decides to use her as the scapegoat because she is simple and illiterate………illiterate she might be but simple she is not...and Radhika is a bit surprised that amma has been chosen...badi bahu wants Radhika to learn about Rp work...🤔😆

In Mansarams house its birth of Chenu……..liked this family interlude…….Chenu has decided to change because if his promise to Radhika………….and maybe the fact that she was kicked out…..the fact that his father broke down after realizing that might have also played some part here, also he did not do anything to stop it. Good………but Shanti is not happy that Chenu has changed because of Radhika…😳……she is happy for the change but not the Radhika part…😆…….What to do with Shanti? A full namooni😳😆

Angie today I am going to call Dev, Bumbum …….Anyway Radhika goes up to him while he is sitting and offers him tea…😳…….actually she is openly flirting with him, but it is going above Bumbum's head…😳……. Bumbum asks why did you get it………Radhikas teasing reply……😆….why does only daima give it to you?...👏...Now Bumbum gets self conscious and says no it is not that…😆……poor Bumbum does not even know how to handle teasing from Phuljhari (Radhika)…😆..Phuljhari continues on her teasing and says you might find it bit sweeter because you will be going outside so I have made it like that……….so her sweetness will make him face the hardship of his daily life…😃…….I mean metaphorically. The spoiled brat sees all this and then complains to Virat that why is Bholu being served by Radhika …😡…..and Virat flares up and shouts at Phuljhari that being the CB how can she serve Bholu and that this house has some maryada and she is crossing that…😡…Bholus jaw muscles clinches but he keeps quiet …wonder how many maryadas has Virat crossed in front of Phuljhari by telling her all this and reacting likes this. Phuljhari looks at Bholu and looks down but then walks forward and calmly tells off Virat…👏that she is doing what she has been told to do…👏😃….does Virat with all the hot air in him realize that he has got a whack from Radhika, that this girl has stood upto him?🤔……….amma who was present also tell off Virat for saying all this and teaching this to Rohan…and Virat says in a huff that now even the other servants are talking like this. Then at night time Phuljhari goes to Bumbum ……😃…. and again softly starts to teases him…😆…… Phuljhari has brought a glass of milk and says this is for you and this is her new rule that everyone has to drink one glass before going to bed…😍…….nice idea Phuljhari to make sure that Bumbum will atleast drink milk if he cannot eat food due to some reason……👏…. Bumbum accepts it………and then she softly asks him that he does everything for this house then why does Virat treat him like this………..and his reply that its ok,…..there are different flavours in life and Virat is a different flavor to him……..Phuljhari's main question now………that why is Rohan talking to him like this? Bumbum's reply because he is sick and that's why he is behaving like this, Rohan is his best friend…and dadaji loves him the most I mean Bumbum the most and when he will become ok then the happiness in this family will return and he is happy that Phuljhari will be looking after him. ….and then continues that he does not remember exactly when he came in this family but all he can remember is that since his arrival some have treated him well and some have not. Phuljhari gives him something that might have been one of the main reasons of her talk with him….gave him back his flute…saw him hesitating and then said play it if not for others but for yourself…it will make you happy….and then goes to her room takes out her peacock feather and tells herself that she is lucky that she has got KK as her husband……….he is always careful that others are happy without caring for himself……….and the flute is to make him happy and to take care of his loneliness……..and Bumbum plays his flute…..

Now how on earth does badi bahu think that Phuhari is a silly simple girl…..she needs to have her eyes checked……….Radhika in her own way found out loads of stuff today regarding Dev…….she told him indirectly that she will be there so that his hardships lessens……she stood up for him openly without shouting, calmly stating her point (Rohan got the message)….she noted that Dev kept the cup of tea with a noise on the table and went away…so she realized that although he is not showing it he is angry………then took the glass of milk and the flute………..the glass of milk so that in future atleast he will drink that as her rule also so sften him up……….and then asked him simple questions so that he does not get defensive….first asked him about virat (because of the tea cup put down with a noise)………..and then asked him gently about Rohan and realised that he takes all this because he does not know any other way…he has faced this since childhood and he is used to this so it is normal to him, although it is not normal to her (otherwise she would not have made a point to look for him)………then his response to Rohans actions showed her that he has this staunch belief that Rohan will not do anything knowingly that will hurt him…….and then when Dev said that he is happy that Radhika is taking care of dadaji, she understood that he is slowly accepting her..he is sharing the most important person in his life……..dadaji………..and then offers him the flute and tells him in such a way that he will play it………playing the flute and making statues were the only way he used to relax and that's why she gave the flute to him…to sooth his pain. I don't know whether she knows about the making statue part…….but will be interested to see if she gets to know about it and tells him to do it…will Devs response be……..that I have already found the person whom I have been searching for……….To Devs remark that he does not want her to look after him because others might put two and two together...he response that she will do what she thinks is right and why will she stop just because of some peoples reaction...(the essence of Radhika)...and this shows that Radhikas security and self confidence makes her take controvertial steps but she has it in her to face the consequences and that once she decides on something she will get ot done, whereas Devs insecurity and lask of self confidence makes him bow down to what other are saying...no bodies fault really...both are the products of their upbringing.

Anyway Rohan is now on full spoiled brat mood and he wants Radhika for himself……….and there is going to be nautanki tmrw……… So Dev might be facing a big test in the future………dadaji is in the hands of Radhika and daima………his love and his mentor…….so if the treatments fail and if dadaji falls more sick…….whom will he believe…….the joint action of his love and mentor or the badi bahu, the person whom he thinks has a heart of gold. Also Radhika is adamant bringing the KK in Dev out …the person who is hidden inside Dev. Today Radhika smoothly showed that Dev is hers and Dev very calmly accepted that too...I mean on the roof...😆...plus he was happy that someone is asking about him. Radhika knows how to control Bholenath...😃...by the way Dev said that in food meetha, khatta,teekha and namkeen are needed, and then mentioned badi bahu, Padma, amma and Virat...wonder who is what? he missed out karwa...or bitter...wonder when that will be included...when the reality of Rohan hits him?

Liked everyone….but todays day goes to Rubina and Avinash…….

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Misti, Overall a very good analysis. You nailed down all the characters and it was very insightful.

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Misti, liked today's episode and was wondering if they can write an episode like this why do they go for Friday type episodes and part of Monday type episodes. Oh well, these TRPs combined with the DJs and Zee is the answer to all this. Anyway, taking this episode as stand-alone it was really nice. Radhika is slowly becoming wise to many things (still clueless about Maheswari but it is not her fault as everyone including Dev have an high opinion of her and Maheswari is treating Radhika with a lot of respect).
The story of insecure Padma, jealous Mohini, full of herself badi bahu, jealous Rohan, insecure Virat, trusting and confident Radhika, melancholic Dev, redeemed Chenu'''..and amma''.mmm'.not sure''..but mainly the journey of Radhika and the lives that she touched...

Liked both Radhika and Dev. Dev is not getting many dialogues these days but Avinash's eyes and body language is very expressive. Even though he was good in CB1, here he is getting more opportunities to show a different range of emotions.

Badi bahu declares that Radhika will look after dadaji and Radhika confirms this and says that along with the ayurvedic medicines, dadaji will also get some of the older allopathic ones'''strange I thought one has to stop one to start others''' Padmas insecurity flares up along with Mohinis jealousy''(both were right in what they pointed out) ''.

Now this I am liking as this is Kanha's leela but there is an action. So both Radhika and Daima would be responsible for the medicines. After 12 years, Maheswari has finally relinqueshed her control over Dadaji in her arrogance, greed and short-sightedness. Also she is the one who is giving all the control to CB - her nemesis. I am liking this part of the story as it has always been the way. An evil person always brings his/her downfall through his/her actions only. Liked they are keeping Padma and Mohini true to their characters. Hope Padma is suddenly not made Devi at one point. She is an insecure character and would always remain so. She is obsessed about her son and in her obsession has not given him any values and spoilt him.
and Dev comes in Radhikas support maybe because badi bahu said it and also now Dev knows Radhika '..that she does not have any harmful bone in her body and that what she did she was forced to do''.
Dev for the first time stood up for Radhika in front of his family even if it was in a small way. He did it in Mansa's family too but he has blinkers where his family is concerned. So even though he supported Maheswari, this is the start. His real test would come when he would be strong enough (mentally) to stand up for her in front of everyone and that would be when he accepts her publicly.
which makes Rohan jealous''.Radhika tries to calm Padma down by saying that man is a victim to circumstances and that she understand Padma the mothers POV and that any danger to Purohits will have to pass through her''.which makes badi bahus eyebrows go up'😆'..
Radhika is an expert in calming down people. She doesn't shout or argue but can placate people. Not that she considers herself responsible for Rohan's condition (except for one day but that was writers' fault), but she accepted Padma's POV and also stopped Dev from answering Padma's question about Radhika being responsible for Rohan's mental state. That is good because until now Dev still considers Radhika at fault and has to yet realize his faulty thinking. But it should not be because of his feelings for Radhika but because he genuinely believes that he was wrong in blaming Radhika. He has softened because he has realized Radhika's pure heart but he is still not at the point where he realizes his own mistakes. So he needs to learn the bitter truth about Rohan that his unstability caused that accident.
and Virat is thoughtfull mood that now what is this girl upto.😆 In badi bahus room Virat still is not sure but badi bahu continues that the medicines will be given but by someone else'''..and amma walks in'who is illiterate so badi bahu decides to use her as the scapegoat because she is simple and illiterate'''illiterate she might be but simple she is not...and Radhika is a bit surprised that amma has been chosen...badi bahu wants Radhika to learn about Rp work...🤔😆

Virat is not stupid and he is getting more suspicious of Radhika's intelligence and resourcefulness. But Maheswari is too sure of her own cunning and is hence underestimating Radhika despite all the proofs in front of her. Mohini was correct that Radhika broke all the rules (Padma had said this before too) but Maheswari is ignoring Mohini's advice because she thinks of Mohini as an airhead. Also giving control of Dadaji to Daima is stupid because Amba is very loyal to Dadaji and may even be able to read him (why she couldn't for 12 years ...oh well...it was all Kanha's leela according to creatives). Also, Radhika can always stop Amba from giving medicine. Now I am keeping aside the fact that Radhika wanted all medicines to stop. But maybe it is due to doctor's advice who may be in cahoots with Maheswari. In any case, traditional ayurvedic medicine doesn't imply that all other medicines have to be stopped. I have seen many ayurvedic people not forbidding other medicine because of the instant relief the other medicine provides. Ayurvedic treatment is a slow process and usually people stop taking other medicine once Ayurvedic treatment starts showing impact.

In Mansarams house its birth of Chenu''..liked this family interlude''.Chenu has decided to change because if his promise to Radhika''''.and maybe the fact that she was kicked out'..the fact that his father broke down after realizing that might have also played some part here, also he did not do anything to stop it. Good'''but Shanti is not happy that Chenu has changed because of Radhika'😳''she is happy for the change but not the Radhika part'😆''.What to do with Shanti? A full namooni😳😆

Shanti was again consistent. Her jealousy of Radhika always makes her unhappy when Radhika is given credit for something. But glad that they showed Chenu not entirely becoming white but remaining this money-minded person but remorseful enough to try to do something meaningful with his life. Shanti's obsession with Chanda's marriage with Dev has taken a backseat (due to TRPs I assume?).

Angie today I am going to call Dev, Bumbum ''.
Misti, I was calling him Bumbum today as his fruitcake stuff was removed in one go. Would have liked to see a more gradual journey from Fruitcake to back being a Bumbum but alas... Still Bumbum is now getting my sympathy again despite my extreme reluctance to do so as he hasn't shown any remorse for being a fruitcake for all those weeks. Phuljhari also is having a tremendous sympathy for him. I guess the servant stuff (in one episode only) also did work for me too. Oh well, still hoping that he will show his regret when Rohan is exposed and he finds out that Rohan tried to kill Radhika.
Anyway Radhika goes up to him while he is sitting and offers him tea'😳''.actually she is openly flirting with him, but it is going above Bumbum's head'😳''. Bumbum asks why did you get it'''Radhikas teasing reply''😆'.why does only daima give it to you?...👏...Now Bumbum gets self conscious and says no it is not that'😆''poor Bumbum does not even know how to handle teasing from Phuljhari (Radhika)'😆..
🤣 Poor Bumbum. He was so uncomfortable. See he likes to do the chasing as he knows what to do then. So he was totally comfortable when he was running after Phuljhari but now is getting conscious. Phuljhari was openly flirting in front of all the servants. She is one forward person. Since Bumbum is hers, she doesn't let anything get in her way. So she takes care of him in front of everyone. Wonder if Phuljhari would be the one to plan the honeymoon this time as well as all their numerous SRs. Bumbum is too clueless.
Phuljhari continues on her teasing and says you might find it bit sweeter because you will be going outside so I have made it like that'''.so her sweetness will make him face the hardship of his daily life'😃''.I mean metaphorically.
Bumbum was pleased with this. I like your metaphore about giving him additional sweetness to make up for the harshness of the life. Also Bumbum was pleased the day before when she didn't go to sleep to heat up the food for him. He is liking this caring. This is the only time somebody is claiming rights on him and caring for him without expecting anything in return (well Phuljhari is not demanding him to accept her anymore and is giving him choice). That was the nice scene.
The spoiled brat sees all this and then complains to Virat that why is Bholu being served by Radhika '😡'..and Virat flares up and shouts at Phuljhari that being the CB how can she serve Bholu and that this house has some maryada and she is crossing that'😡'Bholus jaw muscles clinches but he keeps quiet 'wonder how many maryadas has Virat crossed in front of Phuljhari by telling her all this and reacting likes this. Phuljhari looks at Bholu and looks down but then walks forward and calmly tells off Virat'👏that she is doing what she has been told to do'👏😃'.does Virat with all the hot air in him realize that he has got a whack from Radhika, that this girl has stood upto him?🤔'''.amma who was present also tell off Virat for saying all this and teaching this to Rohan'and Virat says in a huff that now even the other servants are talking like this.
Neither Maheswari nor Virat are realizing that Phuljhari is one tough person. She is standing up for his most hated enemy. Virat is already so jealous of Dev as Dev is the one with everything that is needed for being a RP. What will happen to him when he realizes that Dev is the RP. He is already hooking up with vengeful Rohan and was being nice to Rohan today. So he would be using Rohan in the future or Rohan would be using him. Rohan would want both RP title and Radhika and Rohan is the more intelligent and cunning among two (Virat and himself). Also Rohan has a presence of mind to keep his feelings hidden.
Liked Dev's reaction too. He is not showing it and also showed his acceptance of this behavior. But underneath he doesn't like it and it shows in his expression and gestures. Even when Rohan broke his dinner plate, he realized that Rohan did it intentionally. He is excusing it for now thinking that Rohan is just a child who is being influenced by Virat. But Dev did get affected by Rohan's display. So Misti, he is going to erupt one day like Bholenath as you predicted. Hope they keep the story interesting until then. They lose the big picture in their obsession to keep petty melodrama of fake wives and husbands which is not at all needed for this story.
Then at night time Phuljhari goes to Bumbum ''😃'. and again softly starts to teases him'😆'' Phuljhari has brought a glass of milk and says this is for you and this is her new rule that everyone has to drink one glass before going to bed'😍''.nice idea Phuljhari to make sure that Bumbum will atleast drink milk if he cannot eat food due to some reason''👏'. Bumbum accepts it'''and then she softly asks him that he does everything for this house then why does Virat treat him like this'''..and his reply that its ok,'..there are different flavours in life and Virat is a different flavor to him''..Phuljhari's main question now'''that why is Rohan talking to him like this? Bumbum's reply because he is sick and that's why he is behaving like this, Rohan is his best friend'and dadaji loves him the most I mean Bumbum the most and when he will become ok then the happiness in this family will return and he is happy that Phuljhari will be looking after him. '.and then continues that he does not remember exactly when he came in this family but all he can remember is that since his arrival some have treated him well and some have not. Phuljhari gives him something that might have been one of the main reasons of her talk with him'.gave him back his flute'saw him hesitating and then said play it if not for others but for yourself'it will make you happy'.and then goes to her room takes out her peacock feather and tells herself that she is lucky that she has got KK as her husband'''.he is always careful that others are happy without caring for himself'''.and the flute is to make him happy and to take care of his loneliness''..and Bumbum plays his flute'..

I liked this scene the most. Misti, felt as if they were copying some of your ideas here. As you wrote several times, Radhika is determined to get her KK out. This was the first step she took as she wants her childhood friend back. Only then she will fall for Dev. She is already starting to feel proud of him but has yet to say that she loves Dev. She did not like the treatment that was given to him by both Virat and Rohan, yet questioned him gently as she has come to know that he tends to get defensive. Dev has clamped his true feelings and is putting a lid on his anger and hurt. So he convinces himself that this is how things are and should be accepted. It was interesting that he stated that Rohan would never intentionally hurt him. So his finding out about Rohan's intentional hurt would make him change his views? Will he then fight for Radhika by realizing that he made a mistake in forcing her to marry Rohan?

Also, I was thinking the same thing about the bitter stuff that Dev did not mention. Despite everything, Dev is aloof from Maheswari and Padma. He only feels genuine love for Dadaji and considers Rohan to be his closest friend based on some childhood memories and pale conditional love that Rohan has given him in the past. So his true nature would come out when he realizes Rohan's true face. Also his disillusionment should come when he realizes that Dadaji also used him in a way for his own goals. I hope they show a solid story for Dadaji's silence and not some lame prophecy that caused him to keep Dev as a servant.
But coming back to the scene, I liked Radhika's dialogue about Dev losing himself (here she was talking about KK) by becoming so obligated. Radhika was in the same boat but she doesn't feel obligated to her father. She is protective of him and she demonstrated that by keeping silent about her mother. But she knows that nothing is expected of her from her father in return for his love. Dev doesn't know that and Radhika is teaching him to value himself again (he used to do that before Dadaji became sick). So his playing for himself both to heal and also to find his core was very nicely done.
Liked your interpretation of Radhika giving him milk as he was deprived of food the previous night. Since she would be bringing it to him, she has ensured that he doesn't go hungry.
Now how on earth does badi bahu think that Phuhari is a silly simple girl'..she needs to have her eyes checked'''.Radhika in her own way found out loads of stuff today regarding Dev''.she told him indirectly that she will be there so that his hardships lessens''she stood up for him openly without shouting, calmly stating her point (Rohan got the message)'.she noted that Dev kept the cup of tea with a noise on the table and went away'so she realized that although he is not showing it he is angry'''then took the glass of milk and the flute'''..the glass of milk so that in future atleast he will drink that as her rule also so sften him up'''.and then asked him simple questions so that he does not get defensive'.first asked him about virat (because of the tea cup put down with a noise)'''..and then asked him gently about Rohan and realised that he takes all this because he does not know any other way'he has faced this since childhood and he is used to this so it is normal to him, although it is not normal to her (otherwise she would not have made a point to look for him)'''then his response to Rohans actions showed her that he has this staunch belief that Rohan will not do anything knowingly that will hurt him''.and then when Dev said that he is happy that Radhika is taking care of dadaji, she understood that he is slowly accepting her..he is sharing the most important person in his life''..dadaji'''..and then offers him the flute and tells him in such a way that he will play it'''playing the flute and making statues were the only way he used to relax and that's why she gave the flute to him'to sooth his pain. I don't know whether she knows about the making statue part''.but will be interested to see if she gets to know about it and tells him to do it'will Devs response be''..that I have already found the person whom I have been searching for'''.To Devs remark that he does not want her to look after him because others might put two and two together...he response that she will do what she thinks is right and why will she stop just because of some peoples reaction...(the essence of Radhika)...and this shows that Radhikas security and self confidence makes her take controvertial steps but she has it in her to face the consequences and that once she decides on something she will get ot done, whereas Devs insecurity and lask of self confidence makes him bow down to what other are saying...no bodies fault really...both are the products of their upbringing.

I liked Radhika's confidence where she told Dev that she would do the right thing (according to her) and doesn't care for people. So that explained to Dev her coming as Rohan's wife because she wanted him (Dev). She will face punishment but she is ready for it. That line to me also explained Radhika's essence. Dev is more conscious of the society and feels pressures. Radhika understands that and in time would give him strength to stand up to the society as well. In some sense Rohan told some of it to Dev also but Dev didn't take that advice. Now he will learn it from Radhika.

Also the scene was nice because Radhika basically told Dev that she has rights over him and he basically accepted that. He also wants her to take care of him subconsciously and now it would become hard for him to let her go this time when the second marriage comes up (trust creatives to show this realization in their usual convoluted way. Somehow they can not do anything in CB without a fake wedding).
Also liked all the actors. Liked Saurav too with his psychotic eyes. It was interesting that Rohan used Virat for his purpose. Here Virat thinks of himself as intelligent and Rohan as an idiot.
Anyway Rohan is now on full spoiled brat mood and he wants Radhika for himself'''.and there is going to be nautanki tmrw''' So Dev might be facing a big test in the future'''dadaji is in the hands of Radhika and daima'''his love and his mentor''.so if the treatments fail and if dadaji falls more sick''.whom will he believe''.the joint action of his love and mentor or the badi bahu, the person whom he thinks has a heart of gold. Also Radhika is adamant bringing the KK in Dev out 'the person who is hidden inside Dev. Today Radhika smoothly showed that Dev is hers and Dev very calmly accepted that too...I mean on the roof...😆...plus he was happy that someone is asking about him. Radhika knows how to control Bholenath...😃...by the way Dev said that in food meetha, khatta,teekha and namkeen are needed, and then mentioned badi bahu, Padma, amma and Virat...wonder who is what? he missed out karwa...or bitter...wonder when that will be included...when the reality of Rohan hits him?

Liked everyone'.but todays day goes to Rubina and Avinash''.

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I like how you put your thoughts in this post 😊
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Di I like the way u put each character in the way it has to be and ur thoughts are just awesome
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Misti, Overall a very good analysis. You nailed down all the characters and it was very insightful.
Thanks Angie.
Misti, liked today's episode and was wondering if they can write an episode like this why do they go for Friday type episodes and part of Monday type episodes. Oh well, these TRPs combined with the DJs and Zee is the answer to all this. Anyway, taking this episode as stand-alone it was really nice. Radhika is slowly becoming wise to many things (still clueless about Maheswari but it is not her fault as everyone including Dev have an high opinion of her and Maheswari is treating Radhika with a lot of respect).
Compared to friday and part of mondays episode today was much better...it is the combination of TRP, DJs and the channel which is creating the problem..it shows that if the writers want they can write...Radhika being clueless regarding Maheshwari is ok for the time being...everyone in the house listens to her...and she is also nice to Radhika...wonder what will happen if she overhears badi bahu refering to Dev as a servant.

Liked both Radhika and Dev. Dev is not getting many dialogues these days but Avinash's eyes and body language is very expressive. Even though he was good in CB1, here he is getting more opportunities to show a different range of emotions.

Here he is getting a much more complex role to play... Here both have layers but the layers in Dev are more than that in Radhika. Avinash is doing a very good job...if he gets support from the director and the creative department, PH and the channel then it might turn out to be good oppurtunity for him to show his acting. It will be difficult for him to do it by himself...he needs the support of the team behind him.
Now this I am liking as this is Kanha's leela but there is an action. So both Radhika and Daima would be responsible for the medicines. After 12 years, Maheswari has finally relinqueshed her control over Dadaji in her arrogance, greed and short-sightedness. Also she is the one who is giving all the control to CB - her nemesis. I am liking this part of the story as it has always been the way. An evil person always brings his/her downfall through his/her actions only. Liked they are keeping Padma and Mohini true to their characters. Hope Padma is suddenly not made Devi at one point. She is an insecure character and would always remain so. She is obsessed about her son and in her obsession has not given him any values and spoilt him.
Yes an evil person himself or herself is usually responsible for their fall. Here badi bahu is not only giving her the reins over dadaji but also wants her to learn about RPship and help her. Good she trained Dev and now she might be training Radhika...no harm in that.😉 Padma turned into Devi will be again pingpongng her...its much interesting to keep her as insecure person...more tracks from her actions. Mohini might turn out to be Radhikas thorn in the future.
Dev for the first time stood up for Radhika in front of his family even if it was in a small way. He did it in Mansa's family too but he has blinkers where his family is concerned. So even though he supported Maheswari, this is the start. His real test would come when he would be strong enough (mentally) to stand up for her in front of everyone and that would be when he accepts her publicly.
I don't think he has blinkers on that much, his description of teekha, meetha, namkeen and khatta for the various members shows that he does have a fair idea regarding their nature...but is not aware of their actions. I think badi bahu might be khatta and padma the namkeen one. Also his obligation and insecurity clouds his judgement. Since he is insecure he is reacts to what others are saying.
Radhika is an expert in calming down people. She doesn't shout or argue but can placate people. Not that she considers herself responsible for Rohan's condition (except for one day but that was writers' fault), but she accepted Padma's POV and also stopped Dev from answering Padma's question about Radhika being responsible for Rohan's mental state. That is good because until now Dev still considers Radhika at fault and has to yet realize his faulty thinking. But it should not be because of his feelings for Radhika but because he genuinely believes that he was wrong in blaming Radhika. He has softened because he has realized Radhika's pure heart but he is still not at the point where he realizes his own mistakes. So he needs to learn the bitter truth about Rohan that his unstability caused that accident.
Yes...he needs to face some harsh truths to overcme this barrier in him.

Virat is not stupid and he is getting more suspicious of Radhika's intelligence and resourcefulness. But Maheswari is too sure of her own cunning and is hence underestimating Radhika despite all the proofs in front of her. Mohini was correct that Radhika broke all the rules (Padma had said this before too) but Maheswari is ignoring Mohini's advice because she thinks of Mohini as an airhead. Also giving control of Dadaji to Daima is stupid because Amba is very loyal to Dadaji and may even be able to read him (why she couldn't for 12 years ...oh well...it was all Kanha's leela according to creatives). Also, Radhika can always stop Amba from giving medicine. Now I am keeping aside the fact that Radhika wanted all medicines to stop. But maybe it is due to doctor's advice who may be in cahoots with Maheswari. In any case, traditional ayurvedic medicine doesn't imply that all other medicines have to be stopped. I have seen many ayurvedic people not forbidding other medicine because of the instant relief the other medicine provides. Ayurvedic treatment is a slow process and usually people stop taking other medicine once Ayurvedic treatment starts showing impact.

Ok regardng ayurvedis stuff...I have taken homeopathy before and during that time allopathy was forbiden, so thought it might be the same regarding ayurvedic and allopathy. Anyway since Radhika knows about Ayurveda, her talking to the doctor and accepting it is also ok. Virat is more sharpr than Mahaeshwari and Mohini is also quite sharp...for Virat its his anger that will make him loose and for Mohini it might be her jealousy...it is for these reasons that people do not pay attention to either Virat or Mohini.

Shanti was again consistent. Her jealousy of Radhika always makes her unhappy when Radhika is given credit for something. But glad that they showed Chenu not entirely becoming white but remaining this money-minded person but remorseful enough to try to do something meaningful with his life. Shanti's obsession with Chanda's marriage with Dev has taken a backseat (due to TRPs I assume?).

Maybe Chandas marriahe is in the backseat because of TRP...and I sincerely hope that for the sake of thedsame TRPs it is kept in the background. I am glad that they maintained Chenus basic characterisation while reforming him...otherwise Chenu won't be Chenu.

Edited by misti73 - 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why6

Misti, I was calling him Bumbum today as his fruitcake stuff was removed in one go. Would have liked to see a more gradual journey from Fruitcake to back being a Bumbum but alas... Still Bumbum is now getting my sympathy again despite my extreme reluctance to do so as he hasn't shown any remorse for being a fruitcake for all those weeks. Phuljhari also is having a tremendous sympathy for him. I guess the servant stuff (in one episode only) also did work for me too. Oh well, still hoping that he will show his regret when Rohan is exposed and he finds out that Rohan tried to kill Radhika.
So Bumbum won you over by the servant stuff...so you are a hidden softie.😉😃...you melted when you saw his sad face...Angie, didn't expect you to crumble so soon...😉😃😃 😆
🤣 Poor Bumbum. He was so uncomfortable. See he likes to do the chasing as he knows what to do then. So he was totally comfortable when he was running after Phuljhari but now is getting conscious. Phuljhari was openly flirting in front of all the servants. She is one forward person. Since Bumbum is hers, she doesn't let anything get in her way. So she takes care of him in front of everyone. Wonder if Phuljhari would be the one to plan the honeymoon this time as well as all their numerous SRs. Bumbum is too clueless.
Honeymoon...definitely...given a chance she will also plan the wedding and drag him to the mandap...actually she does not have to drag him physically...one look will be enough...see today he was calmly nodding to her...Phuljhari now has learned a harsh lesson sometimes challenging does not work...when a person is defensive, because he is then it is better to use indirect means and use the soft and sweet approach. So now she has changed her tactics...
Bumbum was pleased with this. I like your metaphore about giving him additional sweetness to make up for the harshness of the life. Also Bumbum was pleased the day before when she didn't go to sleep to heat up the food for him. He is liking this caring. This is the only time somebody is claiming rights on him and caring for him without expecting anything in return (well Phuljhari is not demanding him to accept her anymore and is giving him choice). That was the nice scene.
Yes he likes that someone is caring for him and is also surprised and pleased that she does not care regarding what others might say ...can't blame him...everyone wants love and to feel that to someone that person is impoertant...Bumbum never felt that before and he is enjoying it now.
Neither Maheswari nor Virat are realizing that Phuljhari is one tough person. She is standing up for his most hated enemy. Virat is already so jealous of Dev as Dev is the one with everything that is needed for being a RP. What will happen to him when he realizes that Dev is the RP. He is already hooking up with vengeful Rohan and was being nice to Rohan today. So he would be using Rohan in the future or Rohan would be using him. Rohan would want both RP title and Radhika and Rohan is the more intelligent and cunning among two (Virat and himself). Also Rohan has a presence of mind to keep his feelings hidden.
My hunch is Rohan will be using him...Rohan is cunning and he is used to using people for his own gain...he knows this family and wat the mebers are...he knows more about them than they know about him...and he does have a good presence of mind.
Liked Dev's reaction too. He is not showing it and also showed his acceptance of this behavior. But underneath he doesn't like it and it shows in his expression and gestures. Even when Rohan broke his dinner plate, he realized that Rohan did it intentionally. He is excusing it for now thinking that Rohan is just a child who is being influenced by Virat. But Dev did get affected by Rohan's display. So Misti, he is going to erupt one day like Bholenath as you predicted. Hope they keep the story interesting until then. They lose the big picture in their obsession to keep petty melodrama of fake wives and husbands which is not at all needed for this story.
I am waiting for the eruption and I hope they do not forget about the bigger picture...that eruption if and when it happens will be something to watch out for.

I liked this scene the most. Misti, felt as if they were copying some of your ideas here. As you wrote several times, Radhika is determined to get her KK out. This was the first step she took as she wants her childhood friend back. Only then she will fall for Dev. She is already starting to feel proud of him but has yet to say that she loves Dev. She did not like the treatment that was given to him by both Virat and Rohan, yet questioned him gently as she has come to know that he tends to get defensive. Dev has clamped his true feelings and is putting a lid on his anger and hurt. So he convinces himself that this is how things are and should be accepted. It was interesting that he stated that Rohan would never intentionally hurt him. So his finding out about Rohan's intentional hurt would make him change his views? Will he then fight for Radhika by realizing that he made a mistake in forcing her to marry Rohan?

Lets see how they deal with the Rohan issue...intelligently or again treat it in ther helter skelter method. He never liked Virat refering to him as a servant but never said anything...He did notice about Rohan breaking theplate...if Rohan knows Dev then Dev also should know about Rohan...not that he is manipulative but he knows that Rohan throws a tantrum at the earliest oppurtunity...and this Virat thing, he is putting down to his child like status.
Also, I was thinking the same thing about the bitter stuff that Dev did not mention. Despite everything, Dev is aloof from Maheswari and Padma. He only feels genuine love for Dadaji and considers Rohan to be his closest friend based on some childhood memories and pale conditional love that Rohan has given him in the past. So his true nature would come out when he realizes Rohan's true face. Also his disillusionment should come when he realizes that Dadaji also used him in a way for his own goals. I hope they show a solid story for Dadaji's silence and not some lame prophecy that caused him to keep Dev as a servant.
Thats what I too feel regarding dadaji hiding Des identity...I hope that the makers have a good reason behind it...otherwise it will be cheating Dev and also cheating the audience.
But coming back to the scene, I liked Radhika's dialogue about Dev losing himself (here she was talking about KK) by becoming so obligated. Radhika was in the same boat but she doesn't feel obligated to her father. She is protective of him and she demonstrated that by keeping silent about her mother. But she knows that nothing is expected of her from her father in return for his love. Dev doesn't know that and Radhika is teaching him to value himself again (he used to do that before Dadaji became sick). So his playing for himself both to heal and also to find his core was very nicely done.
Well KK has been lost due to obligation and the strong sense of duty...and as a result we have this Dev...the feeling of obligation has to be removed for Dev to become KK ...and that can be done by love and understanding and giving him space...crowding him might not work. The flute part was nicely done and it was nice that they showed the childhood clip to link how she wants Dev to find his core...by becoming KK. Clever
of her to realise this.
Liked your interpretation of Radhika giving him milk as he was deprived of food the previous night. Since she would be bringing it to him, she has ensured that he doesn't go hungry.
I don't know whether thats what the creatives thought but I felt that it might be a reason and if she does this for everyone then people might not question her or object to it...after seeing Dev labelled as a servant and Rohan ruling the roost she might now becoem careful about it...and interestingly Rohan correctly guessed the danger of these two having conversations, hence his next tantrum display.
I liked Radhika's confidence where she told Dev that she would do the right thing (according to her) and doesn't care for people. So that explained to Dev her coming as Rohan's wife because she wanted him (Dev). She will face punishment but she is ready for it. That line to me also explained Radhika's essence. Dev is more conscious of the society and feels pressures. Radhika understands that and in time would give him strength to stand up to the society as well. In some sense Rohan told some of it to Dev also but Dev didn't take that advice. Now he will learn it from Radhika.
Also the scene was nice because Radhika basically told Dev that she has rights over him and he basically accepted that. He also wants her to take care of him subconsciously and now it would become hard for him to let her go this time when the second marriage comes up (trust creatives to show this realization in their usual convoluted way. Somehow they can not do anything in CB without a fake wedding).
These cvs are obsessed about wedding as a means to take the story forward...CB is becoming a story of weddings, when they could have easily used someother way to bring it out that Rohan is acting...Radhika has always been like that...when she decides on something hshe marches aahead without thinking of the consequences of her actions...then usually learns a lesson...has a conversatin with herself and then changes tracks and does it the correct way...thats Radhika...she has the confidence in her to face the repurcusiions while Devs lack of security and obligation makes him consider others viewpoint.
Also liked all the actors. Liked Saurav too with his psychotic eyes. It was interesting that Rohan used Virat for his purpose. Here Virat thinks of himself as intelligent and Rohan as an idiot.
Yes regaridng Saurav and Rohan is more cleverer than Virat...

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Wellspoken misti,everytime u impress me!
Usualy they say if u take mercy on an orphan child God blesses u 10000 more than if it was ur true kid!Radhika was this kind of blessing 4 the mansa family ,she shares good words and acts wherever she goes:made her fathers world better and proud of his abilities of raising a child(unlike the others two),she influenced chenu on doing good,will make dadaji well verry soon BUT more important than everythin she filled the emptyness of devs lonely heart with her love,became his strenght but also his weakness!she is GODSENT!
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😆😆Misti, you know I do melt easily.
I used to be mad at Radhika especially when she selfishly (in my opinion) forced Dev to accept Vishaka after that Vat Savitri and then emotionally blackmailed him by leaving for Ashram and writing that manipulative letter. Then I was mad when they showed her prostituting Dev in order in order to maintain her image (that is what it came down to me). So I was expecting retribution for her. But I totally forgot about that because they made Abhay so obnoxious that in the end I was hoping for a punishment for Abhay.
Here I was really hoping for retribution for Dev for his shabby treatment of Radhika but his sad face and constant humiliation in couple of episodes have now brought back my sympathy. He is fruitcake no longer. Uh..these creatives...I wanted the revenge for Dev from Radhika (by her walking out) or from Baby Bhasu flirting with Radhika and not from these humiliations. So now my sympathy quotient has gone up quite high for Dev and I was feeling sorry for him going hungry in yesterday's episode. So the revenge scenes are now for Rohan.
Once Rohan irritated Dev by mentioning (at that time innocently) his dream of Radhika telling him, "Rohan, I love you." Now I want in-house Bhasmasur eavesdropping on Radhika one day and hearing her telling Dev about loving him. That would be a good revenge for Bhasmasur. Then he can hear them planning a honeymoon (location unknown otherwise like Shantanu he would there to stalk them).
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Originally posted by: Mandissa

I like how you put your thoughts in this post 😊


Thanks Mandissa, I am glad that you liked it.
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Originally posted by: sushmavina

Di I like the way u put each character in the way it has to be and ur thoughts are just awesome


Thanks for the appreciation sushmavina.

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