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Posted: 14 years ago
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Long time lurker, first time poster on these forums. I can't but feel coerced into admitting that I really want Dushyant and Gulaal to end up together- which I know is a long shot and certainly playing in the minds of the creatives. Maybe my assertion is premature seeing that I really didn't follow the serial up until a month or so ago, thereby I am blinded from the past happenings with regards to the whole Gulaal-Kesar-Dushyant saga. Nonetheless, the fact that Dushyant's character has morphed into someone who is ever repenting, besegied by remorse so much so that he has finally gotten control of the real him, who was once enveloped by the more manipulative, charlatan, repulsive psyche, is one commendable feat. And this bolstered by the fact that his newly found outset is not serving any selfish purpose - as ostentious as putting on a gilded show to rake in some attention from Gulaal - makes his character seem all the more convincing, all the more moulded after much turbulence. His outlook is infact so much maturer, laden with assertiveness, with altruism and maybe even a desire to outdo his dark past. I do believe he may very well be fighting off any such feelings of love he retains for Gulaal, tucking them away deep down his heart, like a letter he'd never wish to lay out to her. I especially loved his dialogue with Mota Ba, wherein he acknowledged that to err is only human; that spoke volumes about the inevitable fact that you only learn and appreciate by way of experience. Sometimes that journey can be rickety, but what matters is the outcome or how you consolidate that in your book of life.

Ofocurse it would be a folly on my part to assume or pine for a relationship against the backdrop of a positive, altruistic mindset of one of the partner. In fact, the idea is that this whole positive aura about Dushyant has vaulted him to a whole new mantle of someone you know has learnt his lesson, as someone you know is repenting therefore is worthy of your trust and faith, but most importantly, someone who never was a bad person, rather overwhelmed and doused in an obsessive love that he only saw red when he ascertained foul play in the face of Gulaal's marriage to Vasant.
Logic prevailing, one could equally argue Kesar is in his ignorant phase, yet to be faced with the truth, yet to trundle along the repenting path. Surely, he is only seeing red as of now? However, whatever the answer to that may be, I am not going to go about speculating on this note, that is beyond the plight I am trying to aluude to here. My concers in with the very notion or the taboo assocaited with the possiibility of a Dushyant-Gulaal angle, which, granted, remains bleak, yet not irrational.
Personally though, in service to the adage 'to each his own', I root for Dushyant- Gulaal. Kesar seems on the very early phases of life and I can't find his mentality matching up to someone as level headed as Gulaal. Notice I talked of mentality and not physical chemistry. I can't seem to identify much with the character of Kesar, which like I said, seems to be really highlight naivety- just doesn't gell well with me personally, meh. Yet at the same time, I do acknowledge that Dushyant-Gulaal aren't going to be tabled lest they see the ratings come to grinding halt or lay in fear of public outrage. Tis sad, but true,
Anyhow, sorry this has gotten long but I was just bored so decided to voice it out rather than roam around aimlessly. Be wary though, that the above mentioned thoughts are really just that. They are not meant to instigate anyone nor am I publically advocating these ideas. I was merely trying to cut some time on a lazy weekend and perhaps giving you an insight into my state of mind with regards to this debate. Given my schedule, chances are I might not even visit the forum again, so yeah don't tag me as your ultimate nemesis 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@rightnow n hira..i loved reading yur posts as dey r forcing me to think in sm different perspective dan wat i m looking at it rit nw.
sch posts r always welcome lest dey dnt hurt anybdz feelings.
yu r rit dat dushyant hz repented in a true sense n hz turned in2 a near saint kind of a person...selfless,giving,vry mature n positive etc,still i dnt see hz future with gulaal n der r reasons for dat
1.why wud gulaal marry ds guy n nt accept her relation vth kesar...wats wrng in that?
2.ok gulaal dznt love kesar n has difficult tym accepting kesars feelings towards her but she dznt love dushyant either.she only respects ds guy fr da fact dat he z truly repenting fr hz ugly deed.
3.kesar is da only guy who can stir gulaal from inside forcing her to think dat she too is a living creature,a woman of jst 30
4.if dushyant n gulaal end up 2ghtr yu can imagine der relation.dushyant can neva show any authority over gulaal as lifelong he z gonna live vth ds guilt dat at sm point of time he hz been a murderer n dat too of gulaals ex husband.how can he be a nyc husband vth dat guilt in hz mind.he just can be a good friend.
5.i can see no passion in a relationship between 2 ppl whoz emotions hav nearly trnd to dust.
6.while for kesar hz aggressiveness,rudeness,possesiveness towards gulaal z wat vil make der relation wrk fr in da end v shudnt forget dat gulaal too z a woman.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mystikal

@rightnow n hira..i loved reading yur posts as dey r forcing me to think in sm different perspective dan wat i m looking at it rit nw.

sch posts r always welcome lest dey dnt hurt anybdz feelings.
yu r rit dat dushyant hz repented in a true sense n hz turned in2 a near saint kind of a person...selfless,giving,vry mature n positive etc,still i dnt see hz future with gulaal n der r reasons for dat
1.why wud gulaal marry ds guy n nt accept her relation vth kesar...wats wrng in that?
2.ok gulaal dznt love kesar n has difficult tym accepting kesars feelings towards her but she dznt love dushyant either.she only respects ds guy fr da fact dat he z truly repenting fr hz ugly deed.
3.kesar is da only guy who can stir gulaal from inside forcing her to think dat she too is a living creature,a woman of jst 30
4.if dushyant n gulaal end up 2ghtr yu can imagine der relation.dushyant can neva show any authority over gulaal as lifelong he z gonna live vth ds guilt dat at sm point of time he hz been a murderer n dat too of gulaals ex husband.how can he be a nyc husband vth dat guilt in hz mind.he just can be a good friend.
5.i can see no passion in a relationship between 2 ppl whoz emotions hav nearly trnd to dust.
6.while for kesar hz aggressiveness,rudeness,possesiveness towards gulaal z wat vil make der relation wrk fr in da end v shudnt forget dat gulaal too z a woman.


I totally agree with you GD jodi dosent have the flare but GK is something so magical...inexplicable...two opposites each complimenting each other...each filling the void for each other

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Interesting perspectives and well thought out arguments! 👏👏👏

I find Dushyant enormously appealing. Passionate, intense enough to kill, strong enough to repent, consistent enough to do what he has been doing for years - repent, atone in silence. Rightnow, you're right - he is a karmayogi.

I find Kesar also interesting. He is turbulent, passionate, volatile, completely led by his scalding emotions. Also, in his defence, a young man. Traumatised by the things he knows, tortured by the things he doesn't. He's afraid of the truth, unsure of his position, unsure of his influence - adolescence on top of these situations - you have to feel for him.

Frankly, I LOVED Vasant as well. He was all heart, but so sensible, so kind, so just, so proper, such fun... truly a Rama-like man. No wonder Gulaal can't get over losing him.

But now that Vasant is dead, who for Gulaal. I'd say Dushyant doesn't stand a chance and nor does he want it. There remains Kesar, who has A LOT of growing up to do before he deserves to be Gulaal's husband. He needs to know the truth, then he needs to UNDERSTAND the truth and all its shades. He needs to get over himself to see WHY Dushyant was forgiven, forgive him himself.

Kesar needs a grip on his temper, he needs to appreciate why Vasant and Gulaal put Talsagra above themselves - he needs to acknowledge this idea of the larger good. He needs to put in due diligence - become a worthy son, a worthy brother. He needs to be able to fill Vasant's mojris.

On the positive side, he's all heart too. Stormy heart, yes, but all heart. He is not really the bigda hua kneejerk goonda he's appearing to be. He's got demons to battle and right now, pretty alone, poor chap.

Kesar-Gulaal would be the love story I'd be interested to see. But how long does the serial have, does anyone know? If they ahve about a month or so, they should start heading towards resolutions, no?

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Edited by soapbubble - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#25
@soap bubble fantastic descriptin of dez 3 men in gulaals lyf...👍🏼
but stil i do believe dat kesar need nt b perfect or all matured or all grown up 2 b gulaals man fr hez jst perfect ds way also at least fr da kind of man gulaal needs right now...
he vil grow himself 1nce he gets gulaal by hz side
she hz da power 2 channelise hz anger in da right direction
shz da woman who can really help ds guy making him da best n getting best out of him
i remember dat kuchch kuchch hota hay dialogue dat a man bows before 3 women only...devima,hz mother n da woman he loves
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Edited by mystikal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mystikal

@soap bubble fantastic descriptin of dez 3 men in gulaals lyf...👍🏼

but stil i do believe dat kesar need nt b perfect or all matured or all grown up 2 b gulaals man fr hez jst perfect ds way also at least fr da kind of man gulaal needs right now...
he vil grow himself 1nce he gets gulaal by hz side
she hz da power 2 channelise hz anger in da right direction
shz da woman who can really help ds guy making him da best n getting best out of him
i remember dat kuchch kuchch hota hay dialogue dat a man bows before 3 women only...devima,hz mother n da woman he loves
😊






Thanks, but I do feel he needs to grow up a bit more - not change but he needs to mature. She needs to respect him and she doesn't do that yet.
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