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Posted: 14 years ago
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Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy Girlswa's..


Has been a long time since we discussed an episode thread bare , indulged a healthy, free for all .. was not feeling broody enough to write about anything ...but after y'days episode , I am bitten by speculation virus.. and in order to heal myself ..I am going to inflict you with my thoughts ,views ..Time for Tanthya ban jayeeeeeeeeee ya Crucify Hojayeeeeeeeeeeee ...😃


Komal and Adarsh / Pratigya & Krishna :


The tragedy was both of them were correct in y'days sequence, Komal desire to eat what she wants , wear what she wants were all all the feelings of a normal Healthy Human ..and So was Adarsh's feelings when he does not want to hurt his family ..Both of them hail from an extended family , both have lived with member's of different temperament ..where this people differ is in their thinking while the Thakurs have paid attention to their children's desires and always satisfied their children's whims and fancies , The saxena' have ingrained the thought that the wishes of the elders were the law ..and a family will not cater to individual it is the case of greater good of great many.. The sax are the followers of Utilitarianism and their thinking is warped around it ..So It would be natural for Sax to expect Komal to kow tow their line ...


FLIPSIDE

If the Sax expect Komal to follow their principles and expect her to eat out and satiate her cravings for Non-Veg ..then what would happen if Amma were to enforce that Pratigya should eat the Non-veg since it is their principles and she must become part of the Thakurs { I am well aware that Pratigya serves the Nonveg , she has overcome the initial revulsion, as I said it is the flip side ]..So far I have not seen any Members of Thakurs making snide comments when Pratigya refuses to eat Non veg


THE TWO BAHUS


One would be all praise for Pratigya and deride Komal for her selfishness ..Here again let me present two views..

Pratigya during the course of her stay has borne many abuses,both mental and Physical ..She has withstood this dastardly acts and handled them with dignity and courage ..She could afford to be so bec she had a oasis in the form of GD and Kesar ...above all she was backed by her husband who stood for her most of the times going against his own family ..Krishna was the shield, he bore the brunt many a time ...contrast this with Komal..


Right from day one, Komal has always been treated as a smelly garbage that has been dumped on their lap.She is treated with condescension when she stands up for them against the Mighty Thakur's..is patted on the head when she does something that they approve of [ sometimes running contrary to their avowed principles] ..in the next instant will be sent to Doghouse , if she dares to say some inconvenient truth ....Pratigya as we well know has been a victim of emotional and physical abuse whereas Komal has been the victim of Psychological abuse ..She has been constantly derided, has been unfavorably compared,looked down on, treated like a clown brought in for their entertainment..but never once has she been treated like a daughter in law of the house ..There always would be the unsaid factor that she is a Rowdy's daughter ..To compound her misery, she does not have a secondary support in the form of loving member nor the primary support of her husband who invariably is the first to shut her up...is it any wonder that she has turned into a virago, a shrew..



KESAR,SHAKTHI, ARUSHI :


quite an interesting scene , Shakthi saying that he still does not like her but has come back to her and when contrasted with I'll take care of everything and his comparison to bull and quite aptly Aarushi deciding to come out of her exile ..

Does this mean that Shakthi pursuing Aarushi is imminent ..and this time around he will 'take care' of it and Kesar will become the mute Cow that Shakthi clearly expects her to be or will she become the Tigress again


or is it that Kesar will defend her Bull like a good Cow and may drift away from Pratigya to save her hearth !!



The TALE OF TWO PARENTS


Yesterday also cast a reflection on the behavior of the two sets of parents ..in the first case ..SS sees his hurt daughter , reacts to her pain...tells her to take rest ..and immediately calls the source of his daughter's sorrow , coaxes,cajoles warns, threatens Adarsh and orders him to come pronto... SS is looking worried while Komal's Mother is concerned,sympathetic and all solicitation .. They want to to know the reason for Komal's distress and alleviate it ......whereas


Adarsh is searching for Komal , calling out to her and as a last resort asks his Mummy..Mummy coolly tells him that Komal might have gone out ...Not one glance at his worried face, not once the realization that Adarsh is troubled by Komal's disappearance..The moment he leaves the scene ..It is business as usual and this is the woman who was flooding the Kitchen cos Adarsh ate Apple.. and as for Papa ..he might as well be on the Moon..such was the reaction from him..




PRATIGYA"S REACTION

Krishna comes all excited and invites Pratigya to come with him ..but Pratigya refuses ..to come ..A Gesture which would give rise to many explanation ...

If One sees it purely in the context of Hubby and wife relationship ...Then Pratigya erred by not going with Krishna ..A Krishna who has realized the error of his ways, Is taking baby steps towards becoming a responsible man ..A Krishna who considers her the whole galaxy and is in need of her approval..By Choosing her Brother over her Husband..Pratigya clearly showed who matter to her the most ...This act could act as a icy shower on Krishna , may even decrease his enthu ..


But when one See Pratigya not only as a woman of Thakur's but also as a Child of saxena's ..It would be Krishna who comes across as an Insensitive lout , here is a Woman, HIS woman , who has witnessed her FIL intimidating her own flesh and Blood, She knows that her brother is a soft Guy and may wilt under the anger of the Thakur's ..She knows that She is needed there as a moral support to her Brother yet Krishna expects her to discard her concern and anxiety for her brother and just saunter over to inspect a site which is not going to run away ...Should we praise Krishna's single minded focus,his refusal to be diverted from his aim or should one give him a strong Dishum, dishum and get him to realize that his wife is worried and may not be able to contribute anything positive at all..


The Third explanation is when One sees Pratigya as a Bahu of the Thakur's..The daughter of the House has come home under a cloud, she is accusing Pratigya's brother of ill treatment , a charge which Pratigya knows that cannot be correct, She needs to stay in the house , get to know the truth and if the accusation's are true then advise her brother both in the role of his sister and as Komal's Bhabhi ..Second..AS I mentioned , A distraught and angry daughter has come...Amma is worried and pained and all the women have surrounded Komal and are offering their support and sympathy to Komal and If Pratigya were to shrug off Komal's deeds as Noutanki and go out with Krishna ...It will come across as a selfish, uncaring act ..Such attitude will only serve to widen the chasm and some good souls like Kesmma might use this to their advantage ...By Not going Pratigya has averted this
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Happy to read your post after some time. Nice analysis of Pratigya's decision.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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some good souls like Kesmma
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Excellent post tanths. An unbiased view given from all angles. Loved it. 😊
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My thoughts are as follows:

Is Komal entirely to blame in all this....She initiated the separate kitchen not for her own purpose but for what she thought that the rest of the Saxes were disrespecting her husband...In her own way was doing her patni dharam....If Adarsh has an issue with a separate stove then he should have had the guts to remove it from the kitchen and told Komal that he is unhappy with such a decision...He accepted it because of his own ego and selfishness and also hiding behind his wife, so the blame can fall firmly on Komal...He objected to non veg being cooked, so he could have objected to the separate stove issue as well...Usualy Komal tows the line when Adarsh speaks...

Another woman who was doing her patni dharam was Kesar...Do we object to it because she does it in the norms of acceptability within society...She may have agreed to share a bed with Shakti but should her duty remain till there or mould herself to a dutiful wife???...One can continue to live separate lives behind close doors but put a show in front of other, but Kesar has chosen to become a wife again in the full sense...

SS methods may not be conventional but not many father's will take kindly to someone who says that he will come at his own convenience without asking about their wife's welfare...If K did the same as Adarsh if P was in Komal shoes then their would be an hungama on that K does not care or love P and making excuses to come and sort out the issues...The lack of concern on Adarsh about his wife shows that he has no respect for her and considers himself superior human being...

And as far as the rest of the Saxes expressions I am not sure whether it is the actor's limitation or genuine lack of concern on their part...


Edited by starlight123 - 14 years ago
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Hey Tanths!! ..wanted to comment only after watching the show!! ....

I support pratigya when she said that she doesn't want to accompany Krishna just this moment. The only thing that concerned me before watching the show was the tone in which she would have said this to Krishna, considering previous episodes...But after watching the episode, I have no complaints on that front either...she had a reasonable tone...and she did say that she will come afterwards...One thing I noted was Pratigya first mentioned Komal Bhabhi is here and then said even Adarsh is also coming...So she was concerned about her sasural if not more but definitely equal to her maika...👏

Krishna was a bit insensitive towards Komal...maybe coz he is used to komal's theatrics that he doesn't believe her when a serious issue comes up. And hence he wanted to concentrate on his business venture rather...

One thing I liked about Komal was she didn't complain against her mother-in-law...She piled the whole blame on Dadi...which was true...Dadi had severe problems with Komal... I am sure Pratigya is aware that her dadi can do that seeing the taunts she used to pass at Pratigya as well..but listening about one's maika's problems is not a nice feeling

Only thing I didn't liked was Pratigya blindly defending her brother when Komal came in....I mean no one knows how one is behind close doors...one might be good son and a brother ....but that can't guarantee a good husband...Even if Pratigya is not aware of his changed attitude towards life...one still can't assume that Adarsh is not at fault in their relationship...

And Kesamma is 🤢🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: b2011

Happy to read your post after some time. Nice analysis of Pratigya's decision.



Me too Happy posting a thread after a while , B2011..Thank You ..😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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good analysis di 😊 👏

but slightly has to disagree with komal's life in GH...........they, especially prof and nainaji tried their level best to make komal feel like family during the first months of her stay there...........and komal actually liked nainaji like a mother and nainaji too took care of her as if she was her daughter.........its only after the angad fiasco which forced the family not to call komal back home soon while angad blackmailed them that the relationship took a u turn.............komal thinking that they didn't care for her at all and misunderstanding their silence as dislike..........and then the next major jatka to their relation came when prof and adarsh didn't pursue the case against jai, which komal took really seriously .................but these incidents were hastily forgotten............and then this money problem came and this time it did do its work of creating a wedge between the relations............which is blown out of proportions and now we see the kitchen divided....both parties r to be blamed and mostly adarsh is to be blamed ............and also arushi and dadi who likes to strut and order ........and as far as komal being told to shut up and go to her room, they didn't do it with hatred for her or with explicit aim to harm her or taunt her like the thakurs did with P.....also K don't know about half of the things they did to P, even P don't know how many times she had escaped death .......i am not supporting the sucksenas here in their deeds of shutting ur bahu up every time she opens her mouth..............but merely stating that while the thakurs did it with a feeling of vengeance , sucksenas never hated komal..............
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Originally posted by: dhakarn

good analysis di 😊 👏

but slightly has to disagree with komal's life in GH...........they, especially prof and nainaji tried their level best to make komal feel like family during the first months of her stay there...........and komal actually liked nainaji like a mother and nainaji too took care of her as if she was her daughter.........its only after the angad fiasco which forced the family not to call komal back home soon while angad blackmailed them that the relationship took a u turn.............komal thinking that they didn't care for her at all and misunderstanding their silence as dislike..........and then the next major jatka to their relation came when prof and adarsh didn't pursue the case against jai, which komal took really seriously .................but these incidents were hastily forgotten............and then this money problem came and this time it did do its work of creating a wedge between the relations............which is blown out of proportions and now we see the kitchen divided....both parties r to be blamed and mostly adarsh is to be blamed ............and also arushi and dadi who likes to strut and order ........and as far as komal being told to shut up and go to her room, they didn't do it with hatred for her or with explicit aim to harm her or taunt her like the thakurs did with P.....also K don't know about half of the things they did to P, even P don't know how many times she had escaped death .......i am not supporting the sucksenas here in their deeds of shutting ur bahu up every time she opens her mouth..............but merely stating that while the thakurs did it with a feeling of vengeance , sucksenas never hated komal..............



Not everything needs to be compared with one or the other and saying this is worse than the other and therefore should have more sympathy...But continuously saying someone to shut up when they have a different opinion is abuse whether done intentionally or unintentionally...Speaking in english so that DIL does not understand what the discussion is about is unprincipled...One can make excuses as to why they did it but taking advantage of someone shortfall is unacceptable in any situation...Always berating someone based on being different and the Prof has scolded Komal for no other reason because she is an easy target then the real culprits after the blacken face incident...His anger should have been directed at the Takur and not the DIL...
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Originally posted by: starlight123

My thoughts are as follows:

Is Komal entirely to blame in all this....She initiated the separate kitchen not for her own purpose but for what she thought that the rest of the Saxes were disrespecting her husband...In her own way was doing her patni dharam....If Adarsh has an issue with a separate stove then he should have had the guts to remove it from the kitchen and told Komal that he is unhappy with such a decision...He accepted it because of his own ego and selfishness and also hiding behind his wife, so the blame can fall firmly on Komal...He objected to non veg being cooked, so he could have objected to the separate stove issue as well...Usualy Komal tows the line when Adarsh speaks...

Another woman who was doing her patni dharam was Kesar...Do we object to it because she does it in the norms of acceptability within society...She may have agreed to share a bed with Shakti but should her duty remain till there or mould herself to a dutiful wife???...One can continue to live separate lives behind close doors but put a show in front of other, but Kesar has chosen to become a wife again in the full sense...

SS methods may not be conventional but not many father's will take kindly to someone who says that he will come at his own convenience without asking about their wife's welfare...If K did the same as Adarsh if P was in Komal shoes then their would be an hungama on that K does not care or love P and making excuses to come and sort out the issues...The lack of concern on Adarsh about his wife shows that he has no respect for her and considers himself superior human being...

And as far as the rest of the Saxes expressions I am not sure whether it is the actor's limitation or genuine lack of concern on their part...





No Star..I would not blame Komal alone ... Dadi too had a part and so did Adarsh ..But yes ..Adasrh has a point ..If U look back..Adasrh is not angry at the sax's it is the Sax's who are angry while Adasrh is disappointed by their attitude..he has not become detached to the level of acting out or becoming independent..as for Non Veg Cooking...Komal did not flaunt it and as she said, she did not cook as long as there was a single stove but she thought she can cook when she got a kitchen of her own ..but in her excitement she forgot that the kitchen might be separated but not the house plus people in the house are not so broad minded ...what she should have done is inform Adarsh of her intention to fry Fish, sounded him out and then gone about it ...esp after Adarsh clearly indicated that he is not happy at the dui stoves..

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