Loved even Gayatri today!!

I know - I myself am shocked because I never thought I would ever cheer for Gayatri but I truly loved her today. She is a much better mother than RB is a dad! RB has been such a huge disappointment for me.. I used to like him until the batwara track but he turned out to be such a weak, spineless character and a horrible dad! He is the one that brought Naitik into this and world and instead of supporting his son and trying to understand him, he chose to blindly do as his Hitler brother told him!! Since when did the egoistic whims of a brother become more important to fathers than their own innocent children?

I loved Gayatri for sticking to her mamta today, for rebelling against DJ, for refusing to give into his hypocritical and unfair rules and for loving her Munna and feeding him breakfast! 👏 👏

I know, I know, her anger towards Akshara is not justified but I don't want to concentrate on that today. Today, I just want to be happy that she didn't disappoint me as a parent as much as RB did. Today, I just want to applaud her fitting reply to Bhabhi ma. I loved it when BM tried to stop her but she pulled the tray from Gulabo's hands and declared that she herself would give the breakfast to her Munna! Bilkul jhansi ki raani lah rahi thi uss scene mein! 😃😃

I have tried to appreciate G3 as a mother on couple of occasions since the batwara.
- when she got upset during the Holika dehen & she was pleading RB to fight back
- today when she stuck up for her mamta

But I couldn't get myself to acknowledge that it was a sincere effort on G3's part.

• Yes they were beautiful scenes if you view them as independent scenes and not consider G3 in totality. Identifying just the 2 scenes do not sum up G3's mamta at least for me.
  
• It was touching if you compare them to RB or BM who are unfit to be parents.
• On both occasions G3 fought back for her own selfish reasons coz she was getting hurt. Today she felt "yeh sahi nahi hai". Why? Coz her feelings were hurt.
  
• She cried when they left but when they came back on holi, she was happy to see Munna but not his wife. Should we still consider her tears sincere? If yes, shouldn't she at least make an attempt to see them as a single entity? He finds his happiness in Akshara. Doesn't that mean anything to her?
  
• She was the one who first refused to go to Akshara's maayka for the namkaran, isn't she embarrassing her son by doing that?
• Agar sach mein if Munna had asked her to make breakfast; she would have made breakfast for him but not before she had some choice words for her bahu. Paraya kissne kisko banaya yeh tho woh bhi jaanthi hai.
  

Is her love limited to only some circumstances, like just when his khana/peena is compromised? Most other times she has been cold to him since the batwara. I don't question her undying love for her son. Maa ka dil bahut bada hota hai but her love has been spotty at best. She has shown flashes of mamta as opposed to RB who has shown none Yes, she was forceful today but it was coz she was hurting. Agar itna hi pyaar hai tho she should be happy to see her bahu back coz her Munna won't be bhukha or lonely anymore.

but sarita, she never bothered about akshara yaar.

she never treat her so nicely. only during sneha's matter she was nice with her but after that she is always behind her yelling and she started popping her eyesthe way dj do.

i think rajshri better than gay3 don' want to debate who is best . she never her bahu and daughter indifferently. the way gay3 doing with akshi and her daughters.

and i love vish too he is best father i never seen see if singhania's come to maheswari's they have treated them farely and vice versa if maheswari's never treated them nicely during vish rajshri visited at naitk's place and they ignored rajshri's who brought rishta for reshmi, and the maheswari's who called for lunch but gay3 totally forgot the naming ceremony they didn't turn up they reshmi with seervant maid whioch is totally disgusting.

aaj se phir wahi natak gay3 showing ugly face to akshi and akshi looking her sasuma with her sad face kuch palao hone wala hai ready to watch

Originally posted by: FLGators

I have tried to appreciate G3 as a mother on couple of occasions since the batwara.
- when she got upset during the Holika dehen & she was pleading RB to fight back
- today when she stuck up for her mamta

But I couldn't get myself to acknowledge that it was a sincere effort on G3's part.

• Yes they were beautiful scenes if you view them as independent scenes and not consider G3 in totality. Identifying just the 2 scenes do not sum up G3's mamta at least for me.
  
• It was touching if you compare them to RB or BM who are unfit to be parents.
• On both occasions G3 fought back for her own selfish reasons coz she was getting hurt. Today she felt "yeh sahi nahi hai". Why? Coz her feelings were hurt.
  
• She cried when they left but when they came back on holi, she was happy to see Munna but not his wife. Should we still consider her tears sincere? If yes, shouldn't she at least make an attempt to see them as a single entity? He finds his happiness in Akshara. Doesn't that mean anything to her?
  
• She was the one who first refused to go to Akshara's maayka for the namkaran, isn't she embarrassing her son by doing that?
• Agar sach mein if Munna had asked her to make breakfast; she would have made breakfast for him but not before she had some choice words for her bahu. Paraya kissne kisko banaya yeh tho woh bhi jaanthi hai.
  

Is her love limited to only some circumstances, like just when his khana/peena is compromised? Most other times she has been cold to him since the batwara. I don't question her undying love for her son. Maa ka dil bahut bada hota hai but her love has been spotty at best. She has shown flashes of mamta as opposed to RB who has shown none Yes, she was forceful today but it was coz she was hurting. Agar itna hi pyaar hai tho she should be happy to see her bahu back coz her Munna won't be bhukha or lonely anymore.

hi FLGators, thanks for your response! i agree with everything you said except for one point. But let me get to that later.

first the other points - i agree that Gayatri's mamta has not been consistent but she is the only one who atleast even tries to fight for her Munna. i agree that she has not been fair to Akshara but as i said earlier, today i don't want to get upset over that. today i just want to enjoy the small happiness the writers gave us. and it's possible that Gayatri's little rebellious actions will pave the way for the final downfall of DJ's bloated ego!

now the point i don't agree with. please don't look at the following in the context of Naksh because i completely agree that Gayatri has been very bad to Akshara. please read the following in a general context! -

it's cruel to ask any mom to see her son and bahu as a "single entity"! why would you even expect such sacrifice from any mother? before the son gets married, the mother is his world, the mother is the closest to him. now just because he is married, are you saying that his own relationship with his mother ceases to exist and the only relationship that remains must be with the beta-bahu as ONE entity? i say - WHY? do you even realise what a mother goes thru when her son insists on he and his wife being treated as single entity? do you understand the pain and the shock the mother feels?

sorry, i guess i'm choosing strong words. but it comes from personal experience. my best and very dear friend had her brother who she had been very close to, tell her and her mom that he and his wife were one unit and therefore, if his wife was angry with them, it meant he was also angry with them and if his wife wasn't talking to them, then he couldn't talk to them either. i remember how my friend called me to her house and cried for hours. i have seen her pain first hand and continue to hear about it and about her mother's pain.

so this "single entity" concept is something that i will never agree with. yes, a saas should love her bahu and should be fair to her bahu but to expect her to forget her son as just her son and see him as one entity with his wife... i hope none of us have to go thru our sons growing up and telling us to see him and his wife as a single entity!

you know, my friend's experience made me even softer towards my own MIL. i have more empathy and understanding for her now. when she gets unreasonable, i find it easier to ignore the little incidents and continue to love and respect her. i have now stopped cribbing about the petty stuff that happens between her and me and always remember that she is my husband's mother and deserves a very important place in our lives...

Originally posted by: JAYA_09

but sarita, she never bothered about akshara yaar.

she never treat her so nicely. only during sneha's matter she was nice with her but after that she is always behind her yelling and she started popping her eyesthe way dj do.

i think rajshri better than gay3 don' want to debate who is best . she never her bahu and daughter indifferently. the way gay3 doing with akshi and her daughters.

and i love vish too he is best father i never seen see if singhania's come to maheswari's they have treated them farely and vice versa if maheswari's never treated them nicely during vish rajshri visited at naitk's place and they ignored rajshri's who brought rishta for reshmi, and the maheswari's who called for lunch but gay3 totally forgot the naming ceremony they didn't turn up they reshmi with seervant maid whioch is totally disgusting.

aaj se phir wahi natak gay3 showing ugly face to akshi and akshi looking her sasuma with her sad face kuch palao hone wala hai ready to watch

Rajsri's love as a mother has been unconditional. G3 still wants her son to love her exclusively, typical expectation from a saas. She is elated when she gets that alone time with her son.

Originally posted by: FLGators

I have tried to appreciate G3 as a mother on couple of occasions since the batwara.
- when she got upset during the Holika dehen & she was pleading RB to fight back
- today when she stuck up for her mamta

But I couldn't get myself to acknowledge that it was a sincere effort on G3's part.

• Yes they were beautiful scenes if you view them as independent scenes and not consider G3 in totality. Identifying just the 2 scenes do not sum up G3's mamta at least for me.
  
• It was touching if you compare them to RB or BM who are unfit to be parents.
• On both occasions G3 fought back for her own selfish reasons coz she was getting hurt. Today she felt "yeh sahi nahi hai". Why? Coz her feelings were hurt.
  
• She cried when they left but when they came back on holi, she was happy to see Munna but not his wife. Should we still consider her tears sincere? If yes, shouldn't she at least make an attempt to see them as a single entity? He finds his happiness in Akshara. Doesn't that mean anything to her?
  
• She was the one who first refused to go to Akshara's maayka for the namkaran, isn't she embarrassing her son by doing that?
• Agar sach mein if Munna had asked her to make breakfast; she would have made breakfast for him but not before she had some choice words for her bahu. Paraya kissne kisko banaya yeh tho woh bhi jaanthi hai.
  

Is her love limited to only some circumstances, like just when his khana/peena is compromised? Most other times she has been cold to him since the batwara. I don't question her undying love for her son. Maa ka dil bahut bada hota hai but her love has been spotty at best. She has shown flashes of mamta as opposed to RB who has shown none Yes, she was forceful today but it was coz she was hurting. Agar itna hi pyaar hai tho she should be happy to see her bahu back coz her Munna won't be bhukha or lonely anymore.

Originally posted by: neel_jay

hi FLGators, thanks for your response! i agree with everything you said except for one point. But let me get to that later.

first the other points - i agree that Gayatri's mamta has not been consistent but she is the only one who atleast even tries to fight for her Munna. i agree that she has not been fair to Akshara but as i said earlier, today i don't want to get upset over that. today i just want to enjoy the small happiness the writers gave us. and it's possible that Gayatri's little rebellious actions will pave the way for the final downfall of DJ's bloated ego!

now the point i don't agree with. please don't look at the following in the context of Naksh because i completely agree that Gayatri has been very bad to Akshara. please read the following in a general context! -

it's cruel to ask any mom to see her son and bahu as a "single entity"! why would you even expect such sacrifice from any mother? before the son gets married, the mother is his world, the mother is the closest to him. now just because he is married, are you saying that his own relationship with his mother ceases to exist and the only relationship that remains must be with the beta-bahu as ONE entity? i say - WHY? do you even realise what a mother goes thru when her son insists on he and his wife being treated as single entity? do you understand the pain and the shock the mother feels?

sorry, i guess i'm choosing strong words. but it comes from personal experience. my best and very dear friend had her brother who she had been very close to, tell her and her mom that he and his wife were one unit and therefore, if his wife was angry with them, it meant he was also angry with them and if his wife wasn't talking to them, then he couldn't talk to them either. i remember how my friend called me to her house and cried for hours. i have seen her pain first hand and continue to hear about it and about her mother's pain.

so this "single entity" concept is something that i will never agree with. yes, a saas should love her bahu and should be fair to her bahu but to expect her to forget her son as just her son and see him as one entity with his wife... i hope none of us have to go thru our sons growing up and telling us to see him and his wife as a single entity!

you know, my friend's experience made me even softer towards my own MIL. i have more empathy and understanding for her now. when she gets unreasonable, i find it easier to ignore the little incidents and continue to love and respect her. i have now stopped cribbing about the petty stuff that happens between her and me and always remember that she is my husband's mother and deserves a very important place in our lives...

Let's not get personal here. I am sure everyone has varied personal experiences and we derive valuable lessons from these experiences, I am glad you did too. I have had more than my share of experiences with family, friends & have full empathy for all mothers who have to go through personal issues due to nalayak sons. I am strictly speaking in terms of the character we are discussing. When I said entity I did not mean a business entity in the literal sense. Nor did I mean that he has to have no relationship with his mother. I think you completely misunderstood what I was trying to imply, my fault I guess for not being more descriptive.

Moms like G3 refuse to accept the bahu even after several years of marriage and bearing his kids. Once the son is married, G3 needs to accept the bahu at least for her sons happiness. Here G3 says that she has accepted Akshara as her daughter, that is far from the truth. No such expectations from G3, neither do I believe her when she says that. She is happy to have her son to herself & that is what I have objections to. What good is a marriage if you never feel like you are part of the husband's family? Isn't that why Akshara continues to try harder?

Originally posted by: _charu_

ur right Sari....gayitri's frustration is mostly "food centric"

munna ko baasi khana de diya

munna ko corn flakes khane pade

munna ko bahar ka khana pada

munna bhooke pet so gaya

or it's "akshara's maayka centric"

munna khana dene kyun chala gaya hospital

mera beta mujhse door ho gaya

bahu maayke kyun ruk gayi

bahu maayke kyun chali gayi

or sometimes very weird issues

ajnabi bhi bahu ke dost hone lage 🤣

and then it's the bahu

bahu ko sochna chahiye, munna keh raha tha toh kya hua

munna ne galti ki , bahu ki wajah se 😆

bahu ne kaha hoga

and the list is endless..

our complaint from gayitri is her interference & expectations from bahu (which will never change...coz in real life too, aisa hota hi nahi hai)..i'll give her a benefit of doubt IF she continues this rebellious streak.....least she can do is silent protest against daddaji & continue to do what she likes..let daddaji know that naitik is not the only one who does manmaani 😆

Did you notice it's bahu - centric, anything to do w/Akshara🤣

Originally posted by: FLGators

Let's not get personal here. I am sure everyone has varied personal experiences and we derive valuable lessons from these experiences, I am glad you did too. I have had more than my share of experiences with family, friends & have full empathy for all mothers who have to go through personal issues due to nalayak sons. I am strictly speaking in terms of the character we are discussing. When I said entity I did not mean a business entity in the literal sense. Nor did I mean that he has to have no relationship with his mother. I think you completely misunderstood what I was trying to imply, my fault I guess for not being more descriptive.

Moms like G3 refuse to accept the bahu even after several years of marriage and bearing his kids. Once the son is married, G3 needs to accept the bahu at least for her sons happiness. Here G3 says that she has accepted Akshara as her daughter, that is far from the truth. No such expectations from G3, neither do I believe her when she says that. She is happy to have her son to herself & that is what I have objections to. What good is a marriage if you never feel like you are part of the husband's family? Isn't that why Akshara continues to try harder?

dear FLGator, i'm really sorry if you felt like my message was a personal attack on you. that was not my intention at all. please don't misunderstand me. i don't even know you, why would i attack you personally. i guess my post sounded personal because of my personal experiences.

as for Akshara and Gayatri, i have always agreed and will continue to agree that Gayatri is the one that couldn't be a good saas and doesn't deserve a gem of a bahu like Akshara. i'm totally with Akshara. infact, i wish Akshara would stop being so mahaan and would show some self-respect instead. the only thing i was trying to disagree with is "mothers treating their sons and bahus as single entities".

again, i'm sorry if i disagreed in a way that hurt your feelings.

Originally posted by: neel_jay

hi FLGators, thanks for your response! i agree with everything you said except for one point. But let me get to that later.

first the other points - i agree that Gayatri's mamta has not been consistent but she is the only one who atleast even tries to fight for her Munna.

yeah she tries to fight for munna only when therez an issue of food 😆 i'd love to see her supporting munna in front of daddaji ...like akshara's major concern is "ma kya sochegi", gayitri's main concern is "daddaji kya kahenge" ! gayitri has moulded her thinking that way..i dun remember one instance where she supported munna and bahu for anything they did, individually or together !!!!!! yes, she surrenders later bec. of fear of losing munna.

she's against everything that munna & akshara do, apni marzi se(which daddaji also does not like) , be it going out for movies or holidays or shopping for akshara etc. or bigger issues like lending money , munna's view abt rashmi and nandini's marriage, nandini's problem , munna wanting to work independent ...why couldn't SHE stop munna from going away at holi???? using the same MA ka haque, ma ke aansoo, ma ke dil ka dard? bec. khane ka toh she can do it behind daddaji's back isn't it?

i agree that she has not been fair to Akshara but as i said earlier, today i don't want to get upset over that. today i just want to enjoy the small happiness the writers gave us. and it's possible that Gayatri's little rebellious actions will pave the way for the final downfall of DJ's bloated ego!

yes, i'm waiting for that...i have pinned my hopes on gayitri..lets see..i was really happy that on holi, she got disappointed with her husband for not stopping munna frm leaving..

now the point i don't agree with. please don't look at the following in the context of Naksh because i completely agree that Gayatri has been very bad to Akshara. please read the following in a general context! -

it's cruel to ask any mom to see her son and bahu as a "single entity"! why would you even expect such sacrifice from any mother? before the son gets married, the mother is his world, the mother is the closest to him. now just because he is married, are you saying that his own relationship with his mother ceases to exist and the only relationship that remains must be with the beta-bahu as ONE entity? i say - WHY? do you even realise what a mother goes thru when her son insists on he and his wife being treated as single entity? do you understand the pain and the shock the mother feels?

in a general context, i feel yes u have used strong words 😆 "pain, shock", therez nothing shocking about it, bec. the mother went through the same phase of life when she was a newly wed and she had the same expectation from her in laws.......after marriage, sabke rishte badal jaate hai..priorities also change...it's a cycle of life..therez nothing to crib about it....ma ke paas uska beta hai, bete ke paas ma hai but poor wife, uske paas kaun hai? after marriage, a girl shares the closest relationship with her husband..before marriage it was her parents n she's expected to sideline them for her in laws.....

demanding "exclusivity " is wrong ! it goes for the ma also ! for parents, therez nobody in this world like their children ! but woh hamesha "bache" nahi rehte ! this is precisely the problem with gayitri ! not acknowledging that her munna is grown up, he has a family , he will become a father soon, he should and he must learn to be independent bec. he has a huge task of earning bread butter for his family....why should a mom ever "compete" with her son's wife?? this thinking is wrong ! forcing your views on your children is wrong...not willing to accept this "change" is wrong...not trusting your own blood is wrong......a mother should become the biggest strength & support of her son rather than making him weak & creating more problems by asking him to choose b/w mom and wife !

accepting her son and DIL as a single entity is not a "sacrifice" in my opinion ! it's acknowledging the change in your life....the change which is inevitable ! i agree it's extremely difficult to strike the right balance..kya woh ma baap ka dil nahi hota jo apne bache ko , apni beti ko door kar dete hai , so that kisi aur ka vansh chal sake???? or do they love their sons more ke they're unwilling to let them go, take up these new responsibilities and become independent? and why NOT a single entity? ideally they should be one...just like MIL and her husband is a single entity.

the mother son relation does not "cease" to exist but it HAS to co-exist with the husband wife relation ! nowdays ppl. never crib about it bec. their kids want independence as soon as they grow up !!!! parents are mentally prepared for it......after marriage, a line HAS to be drawn b/w what remains a personal issue of husband wife (like having kids..when and how many) and what r the family issues !!!!!

sorry, i guess i'm choosing strong words. but it comes from personal experience. my best and very dear friend had her brother who she had been very close to, tell her and her mom that he and his wife were one unit and therefore, if his wife was angry with them, it meant he was also angry with them and if his wife wasn't talking to them, then he couldn't talk to them either. i remember how my friend called me to her house and cried for hours. i have seen her pain first hand and continue to hear about it and about her mother's pain.

so this "single entity" concept is something that i will never agree with. yes, a saas should love her bahu and should be fair to her bahu but to expect her to forget her son as just her son and see him as one entity with his wife... i hope none of us have to go thru our sons growing up and telling us to see him and his wife as a single entity!

may be our perspectives are different but may be he was asking his mom to treat his wife the same way, with the same motherly affection with which she treats him ! i believe the major reason for the saas-bahu tiff is ke the way parents love their children, they r never able to love someone else's child...same is with the kids..the way they love their parents, they r not able to do it with others (bahu loving her in laws)...a diff. understanding develops b/w kids and their parents over the years which one cannot achieve with the in laws....the difference always remain..for a mother, her son always come first then her bahu ! why NOT the other way round?

you know, my friend's experience made me even softer towards my own MIL. i have more empathy and understanding for her now. when she gets unreasonable, i find it easier to ignore the little incidents and continue to love and respect her. i have now stopped cribbing about the petty stuff that happens between her and me and always remember that she is my husband's mother and deserves a very important place in our lives...

all of us have to do it my dear..t's in our best interest to ignore the petty issues and don't crib abt what we don't have..rather focus on the good things in life 😛 i'm sorry i never intended to offend anyone and i'm not being rude..just presenting my pov..