CV's sad/lame deconstruction of the LTL fairy tale

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Kavita

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Posted: 14 years ago

What a lame and shameful attempt at deconstructing two characters' steadfastness and a beautiful story? We were all apprehensive about today's episode and CV's, true to their usual predictability did not surprise us by introducing the much-feared triangular element in the form of a comic to stake claim to Nakusha's loyalty. Was that the best they could do to divert Dutta's attention to Nakusha's "loose character" or "triacharitra" and her "gandi basti" origins. We expected somebody who would be able to take on Dutta in the looks and "brains" department (as far as the business is concerned) and we land with one "personable and cherubic looking Suresh"😆😆😆 who is supposed to have known Nakusha since her childhood. What bad taste Kala? You let us down and how. And the dragfest begins yet again. 🥱🥱🥱

I would have expected the CV's to seize the golden opportunity of Nakusha going through a test of fire at the more elevated level of mutual comprehension gone sour between a couple who are totally attuned to each other rather than this cheap and gratuitous third angle that jars with their treatment of Nakusha and Dutta's togetherness and evolution as a couple up to now in spite of the expected problems post FR. And that assumption or expectation is rightly based on the way they developed these two almost real-life characters . We, constantly, moan at Dutta's apparent obtuseness when it come s to see beyond what is shown to him or what he cares to see when it comes to mundane things in PN. But it looks like whoever was in charge of taking the story further forgot or is not aware that this lack of perception on Dutta's part never applied when it came to Nakusha, ever since the day she arrived in PN and became the focal point of his life. It would be totally demeaning now to show a Dutta involuntarily "dumbing down" and become like the run of the mill husband of many other serials on TV😡.

Today's episode also had some high points in the form of the strategic "friendship/partnership" between Dutta and Chasker and for the first time we got a glimpse of Dutta Sriram Patil, the sleek negotiator who knows how to keep every other aspiring Don under his chin. I loved that part as it mitigated my disappointment as regards the treatment of the impending "third angle". We had never, really, seen Dutta laying down the rules as regards the conduct of small time operators of the black market or contraband business in his area and that was a revelation. His estrangement from Nakusha has had at least one positive effect in the shape of a Dutta charged with renewed energy and zeal to safeguard his title of the Sher of Patil Wadi😆😆. It is a pity that Baaji has been sidelined, but all the more reason for him to make that wonderful comeback and prove to all the pseudo aspirants (Sorry Suds😆😆....I cant stop myself) to his position in the PN stronghold that it takes years to formulate the right strategy enabling one to stay afloat in the cut-throat world of gangs of this world.

And as regards, Nakusha, we had also expected her to come out with her usual blabber as to her wish to fight this battle all alone, so no surprise there. Today was even more depressing as there seems to have been no attempt at any continuity from Friday's scene where Nakusha is seen gazing aimlessly at Kala when the latter makes an insinuation as to her needing to take precautions and conducting an affair out of PN. We would have loved to see CVs' showing Nakusha at least reflecting on Kala's latest strike. Instead, we see her, uncertain (I would have expected fear and shock on her face) and running to AS to start pleading her innocence....Classic reaction. And puerile I would say on the part of CVs.

Today was definitely the start of the deconstruction of a beautiful fairy tale 😭😭😭. For the sake of the LTL we have loved and taken to our hearts to the point that we can sense a real depression amongst all the loyalist of this much loved show, we hope that CVs' and the Channel have a real brainstorming as to giving this show and its characters its real momentum. Should they not have enough ammunition/imagination😕😕😕, they could as well start with unravelling all the untold stories in terms of unfinished tracks. We would, at the very least, be able to identify with that.

And that is a very humble request. We deserve better.

😲😲😡🥱

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Aneesa

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Posted: 14 years ago

@KavitaDR - I took time today to read the comments on the forum as my disheartened soul was hoping to find that the CVs would have suprised us again. Well, I was wrong, I can see that I will have to put up with this nonsensical "crap" as I believe that the LTL CVs do not know what to do with this story. My sentiment shared with so many loyal LTL fans. It appears as I have mentioned before that the LTL CVs did not have much in the way of written scripts to start with for episodes and have looked to this forum for ideas into the storyline. Since July after the JMM track, LTL has taken a downward turn, this e-LS has not taken off since then and there have only been fillers with unanswered questions. It is my opinion that there are so many other avenues that could be explored with each character especially D as he is a Don with so many enemies. Does D not have friends as well as enemies? AS has mentioned twice, once before at the first wedding and again at the second wedding about D's special friend coming. This is never materialized. What about B, who is his family what nuances is there with B, he is the one who introduced D to the underworld. I am saying this with a heavy heart and soul as I still see so much potential from this great story that started out with the potential to grow and develop the characters and storyline with them, So I am with you maybe they need to wrap this story up with a quick filmy ending at least we would be happy with D&N and B finding happiness in the end.

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gp00

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Posted: 14 years ago

I agree with you Kavita...we deserve a whole lot BETTER!

The way they have deconstructed the love story and the characters (especially Dutta and Naku) over the past few months has been misguided and plain old stupid. The more they continue, the more they make the main characters look like buffoons. I mean look at Dutta these days--all I want to say to him is stop huffing and puffing and go to your room. You're grounded!

And to Naku, I want to shake her and say HELLO, anybody home up there?

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Kavita

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Posted: 14 years ago

gp00

I agree with you Kavita...we deserve a whole lot BETTER!

And to Naku, I want to shake her and say HELLO, anybody home up there?

Yes Parul, it is is pitiable and I am being charitable here. How did the PH/CV/Colors let the story take such a downturn. As much as I have tried to be the Devil's advocate defending every little twist for various reasons, often sublime performances from MR (the show's mainstay) or Nakusha's total devotion to Dutta or rather her belief in love and the basic goodness of human beings, I find myself compelled to question the CV's willingness to break the limbo.

I did not pay much heed to Pranjal Saxena's response to SaRaW's email putting down his cavalier, almost, "Do I care attitude" towards the LTL fans last week to other considerations best known to them, the PH or the Channel but they must realise that the audience would just not take anything they throw at us. Or it could very well be that ,like their main character in the show, they have also taken refuge in their own ivory tower and basking in days that have been. They should, seriously, be jolted back to reality and from what I could see on the Chaska Meter this week, they might possibly have to come out with yet another drunken scene of Dutta to bring back the audience. It may not always make up for the time lost.

The battle for higher TRPs is unforgiving for those who fall in intermittent relapses......Are you listening "AUGUST CVS'"

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prettywoman

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Posted: 14 years ago

@Kavi.. it can still be salvaged as u say.. as many of us have noticed, the forum is so sunsaan now..so many oldies have gone MIA as they cannot bear or relate to it.. unfortunetaly i cant let go and so have to stick thru this. and it seems you are in the same boa as me lol..

now coming to the point of trying to flesh out all those sub plots is a very good suggestion. we have a bandaar of such sub plots and all our brain dumps on what could/would have been situations?! see, when it comes to nakku, Dutta never uses his brains and chooses to believe the first person who says anything about her. i was truly hoping that after the FR, when he accepts her, he will do it in such a way that in future, there will be no situation where he mistrusts her.. i can understand him taking time, but the story seems to be stuck in a rit since last 2 weeks and that is what is botehring me. and please kavi, i beg to differ here when i say i dont want a tasha scene where Dutta is drunk.. can he think of his love and emotions only when he is drunk.. why cant the same feelings not come out when he sober too.. i mean i loved the scene where he yells at baaji on friday ...' aj uski jaan...' and stops realising that he was about disclose his feelings for nakku.. i dont mind him starting off like these half sentences as they are uttered when he is sober.. it was ok that night with the kitchen scene as daaru mellowed him down.. but c'mon after FR, so many weeks have gone past and she even was ready to sacrifice her life and now i think cv's need to stop treating dutta with kid gloves and make him come to his senses..

Please dont throw chappals when i say i can even tolerate D pushing out N, if it means the story moves forward and their LS gets a much needed kick start.. BUT i dont want him to doubt her and throw her out, but his own prejudices making him do that.. ideally i dont ever want them to spearate, but with N safe and sound in PN, i dont see how Dutta will ever wake up and smell the coffee.. there will be many more small incidents where at the start of the week, N will be a traitor, by the end of the week, she comes out clean.. then next Monday wapis wahi chakkar.. which is why i feel there needs to be a major overhaul in the story and cv's/ph/channel need to decide on how they want to take it fwd.. and do it with conviction.. everytime they have believed in something and done it with conviction, it has worked.. so here too i am hoping and praying to see the story move fwd.. I want to see a movement in the right direction in D-N's LS, not this same ghol ghol ghoomna.. C'mon, i am hoping this week will answer our questions,,

BTW, as many of you will feel we will see a jealous Dutta after this new guy has made an entrance, i am also all for it, provided it moves the story forward.. but i am not convinced this guy and his antics are enough to make Dutta jealous to an extent that he will accpt nakku..the story after FR has been stretched so much that now they need to show a dhamaka to wake up dutta i feel :-P

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Kavita

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Posted: 14 years ago

@nizam13

I took time today to read the comments on the forum as my disheartened soul was hoping to find that the CVs would have suprised us again. Well, I was wrong, I can see that I will have to put up with this nonsensical "crap" as I believe that the LTL CVs do not know what to do with this story. My sentiment shared with so many loyal LTL fans. It appears as I have mentioned before that the LTL CVs did not have much in the way of written scripts to start with for episodes and have looked to this forum for ideas into the storyline. Since July after the JMM track, LTL has taken a downward turn, this e-LS has not taken off since then and there have only been fillers with unanswered questions. It is my opinion that there are so many other avenues that could be explored with each character especially D as he is a Don with so many enemies. Does D not have friends as well as enemies? AS has mentioned twice, once before at the first wedding and again at the second wedding about D's special friend coming. This is never materialized. What about B, who is his family what nuances is there with B, he is the one who introduced D to the underworld. I am saying this with a heavy heart and soul as I still see so much potential from this great story that started out with the potential to grow and develop the characters and storyline with them, So I am with you maybe they need to wrap this story up with a quick filmy ending at least we would be happy with D&N and B finding happiness in the end.

My dear Aneesa,

What can I do to cheer you up?

We had anticipated the story unfolding with a third angle to force Dutta in taking stock of the state of his relationship with Nakusha. We have spoken of an agneepariksha but CVs' going by their erstwhile abilities to come with a novel concept could have come with a jealousy track completely different. LTL has been a wonderful source of deliberations/discussions for an audience who were for the first time given a chance to look beyond the glamour of celluloid and study the psychological and emotional journey of two beautiful characters.

We have cried with Dutta and Nakusha, we have shared their joys, we have revelled in their beautiful journey of love, we have sympathised with so many lame characters, ignored the bloopers, and it is not over. yet. You are absolutely right in your assumption that they may have used the Forum as a barometer to move the story forward. Without being presumtuous, I believe that the Forum has contributed to the groW*H of the E-LS. How on earth do we expalin then this total abstraction/ignorance of their fan base.......I could go on with may ranting but I will just hope for the sake of LTL, that CVs' sit up and start reviewing the orientation of the show......

You take care,

Kavita😊

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Aneesa

@notsorry

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Posted: 14 years ago

@KavitaDR. Thanks for keeping all of us going on from your many beautifully written posts on the lead characters and insight into what could be captivating episodes in LTL's and as Vandu says there are many oldies who are MIA. I hope not to be one of them soon as well. Hoping that others will read this post because I have a message, as I am not as expressive as many of the writers in this forum. To all LTL wonderful loyal lovers especially the silent readers, express your views, as I understand this is an open forum where one is free to express any view they wish to. Start enhancing each characters' traits and posting what you want to see in the future episodes of LTL, keeping in mind if it is only D&N's love story and romance that you want to see that there is only so much that can be written on this subject for future tracks. Let LTL CV's and Colors Channel know what the loyal fans want so that LTL can continue for as long as possible.

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Kavita

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Posted: 14 years ago

Hi Vandu,

BTW I love the shortform of my name that you use. Apart from my Dad who called me Kavi most of the time, there has been very few people.....Thank you you brought back fond memories!😊

And now to come to your post:

@Kavi.. it can still be salvaged as u say.. as many of us have noticed, the forum is so sunsaan now..so many oldies have gone MIA as they cannot bear or relate to it.. unfortunetaly i cant let go and so have to stick thru this. and it seems you are in the same boa as me lol..

Yes, it can still be saved, they have not gone so far as not to be able to attempt some form of damage limitation and get the audience back. We are hardcore fans and will not desert the show but we should also be given the respect and love that we have showered on LTL.

now coming to the point of trying to flesh out all those sub plots is a very good suggestion. we have a bandaar of such sub plots and all our brain dumps on what could/would have been situations?!

I have been harping ad nauseum on the need to work on all those sub plots left hanging in the air with wonderful potential to fit in seamlessly with the main plot, i.e, the love story of the kind-hearted Don and a destitute girl. This would have given CVs the time to take a breather and give a chance to MR and MV to refresh their perspectives of the character they play

see, when it comes to nakku, Dutta never uses his brains and chooses to believe the first person who says anything about her. i was truly hoping that after the FR, when he accepts her, he will do it in such a way that in future, there will be no situation where he mistrusts her.. i can understand him taking time, but the story seems to be stuck in a rit since last 2 weeks and that is what is botehring me.

Yes, I agree that post FR, the story should have taken on a course that would have showed Dutta banishing his inner demons and accept her for what she is worth, nothing less, nothing more and that is a legitimate expectation. Even the dumbest or most insensitive husband/partner should know that one should not push the envelope too far when it comes to the trust issue. How many more incidents/accidents/mishaps do Nakusha and Dutta need to be victims of before they are shown to be on one track. Unlike the rut you refer to, I would argue that the wheel came unstuck a long time ago, courtesy CVs.

and please kavi, i beg to differ here when i say i dont want a tasha scene where Dutta is drunk.. can he think of his love and emotions only when he is drunk.. why cant the same feelings not come out when he sober too.. i mean i loved the scene where he yells at baaji on friday ...' aj uski jaan...' and stops realising that he was about disclose his feelings for nakku.. i dont mind him starting off like these half sentences as they are uttered when he is sober.. it was ok that night with the kitchen scene as daaru mellowed him down.. but c'mon after FR, so many weeks have gone past and she even was ready to sacrifice her life and now i think cv's need to stop treating dutta with kid gloves and make him come to his senses..

You may have misconstrued that part of my post as I do allude to the need now to show Dutta in his senses when he next acknowledges Nakusha's importance in his life. I may have referred to Dutta's propensity for "lucid drunkenness" in other posts but the reference need to be taken with a pinch of salt. I may have been moved by the morbidly touching emotions Dutta's drunken state have evoked amongst the audience but that has been one bitter lemon pressed to its last drop. So please CVs, no more of the use of alcohol to show Dutta and Naku connected emotionally.

No chappals at all! I would not dare, though I have to confess that I find it hard to see Dutta physically throwing Nakusha out of PN. In spite of all his prejudices and inability to see beyond his nose, Dutta, deep down cannot fathom life without Nakusha. Had this been the case, he would have thrown her out on the day FR happened. Also, as I highlighted, in a post to Kshreya's thread yesterday, Dutta has, literally, never let Nakusha out of his sight ever since he brought her to PN. He may have pushed her, married her under the then illusion of the need to avenge himself of a friend's betrayal.......etc (you know the score), Naku has been a constant presence in his life. He may not say it everyday but he admits within himself that she completes him and fills all the gaps that his inner self has been yearning for....so no separation in view unless CVs were to finally pop out a major twist out of their hats....But no cheap skates please...This "Suresh" looked pathetic....He is not even a good actor....Enough said! You can read my thoughts, I am sure.

I find it hard to imagine a jealous Dutta because of our "comic cherub"...He does not even come to the mark....As Poo famously said in KKKG, he is frankly "not applicable"

Vandu

We will catch up on the next post or thread now....Luv Kavi😊

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Kavita

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Posted: 14 years ago

@KavitaDR.

Thanks for keeping all of us going on from your many beautifully written posts on the lead characters and insight into what could be captivating episodes in LTL's and as Vandu says there are many oldies who are MIA. I hope not to be one of them soon as well. Hoping that others will read this post because I have a message, as I am not as expressive as many of the writers in this forum. To all LTL wonderful loyal lovers especially the silent readers, express your views, as I understand this is an open forum where one is free to express any view they wish to. Start enhancing each characters' traits and posting what you want to see in the future episodes of LTL, keeping in mind if it is only D&N's love story and romance that you want to see that there is only so much that can be written on this subject for future tracks. Let LTL CV's and Colors Channel know what the loyal fans want so that LTL can continue for as long as possible.

Aneesa, We should all join those motivational discourses! 😆😆😆 Jokes apart, yes, you are right, the message has to be put across. Whilst, I appreciate that creative talents do not like to see laymen stepping on their sensitive toes, they should also realise that the audience will not always be generous for their repeated hiatus. It is in the interest of their survival and that of the creations of their imagination at the end of the day. 😳

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@ImmaculateDream

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Posted: 14 years ago

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I was trying to stay away from replying Because At this Point of time things are only being assumed because we are still not aware of what road will be taken by our Characters... Till yesterday most of us are sure of an infidelity track .. but half of the people are now relaxed after what they saw yesterday...

Im a bit irritated so I wanna point out a few things before i comment on ur topic Kavita 😊

My Question is Why are we Assuming abt the turn of events in the first place... A lot of Back ground information abt Actors, abt their un availability .. Channel playing its GAMES , TRPS etc etc are REasons given for why a Certain Track which we are not in favor of is being brought up by Creatives...and based on These assumptions we come up and Say .. I QUIT! LTL has gone to DOGS.... but when there is something pleasant comes into picture .. we get to see all apology letters and YAY!!! LTL is back!! 😕 Why cant We only think abt the show, and its characters only??😕 A Track is MAINLY brought up KEEPING characters and under what circumstances they are going through in mind.. Same is the case with LTL here..then why this indifference when only a SAD Or tragic or something which is not going by our desire is being shown ?

Now coming back to your topic...

LTL is a fairy tale .. but even a fairy tale has dark aspects ... Every story has... LTL is a DARK story since the beginning .. and honestly speaking that is its Punch.. If its being lost then im "not sure" If LTL will remain the same .. As of now Dutta and Nakusha both are surrounded by Darkness, Evil... And Its not easy to fight with such immense power and think Rationally ... and that too From An "emotional" person Like Dutta... who came to life after number of betrayals because of this Gril and was again put into darkness because of this girl too ...He is so used to being betrayed that for him its very easy to accept the negative ...then to follow anything going in the lines of TRUST... Its a natural tendency to convince urself not to hurt yourself more... Dutta is doing the same inspite of listening to his feelings he is choosing not to listen to them .. he is too hurt! to acknowledge anything now... I found it Very intriguing! i know Its painful to see him or nakusha like that but then Im able to SEE a complete different ASPECT of their characters.... Even if its Infidelity .. It wil be a test for Naksusha's trust and patience... as the story is abt her as well...

if its not infidelity then we might get to see Dutta dealing or realizing some hidden facts, abt him .. abt Nakusha .. abt Everyone...

Personally Im not in favor of such tracks .. I like to see more abt friendship and love ..... Per I would love to see their love growing and strengthening more after facing Every hurdle be it together or alone and that will never get me to see teh depth and pain in their story ... Dutta has a heart of gold .. but he chose a wrong path because lost his love long back.. he wouldn't have let his grey side to take over his goodness at that point of time! ..now he has to pay back for all his sins... and that also for the one thing he wanted the most for which he chose being Evil... his Love! That is the darkness i was talking abt .. In this darkness only his love will show him light... and by the end he will know that because of him he suffered... his Nakusha suffered! the women who never did a sin in her life has to go through a lot because of him ...ITs painful i know.. but there is longing .. there is eternity ... and that is why i have never felt disconnected with Them or with Their Story... 😊

It wil also be a lesson for those who took wrong decisions in life ...choose Evil over goodness and Suffer inspite of the goodness concealed in their hearts..

Thanks for bearing with me..😊

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