Hope Take 3 - December 9, 2010 - Page 2

Originally posted by: reachanupama

I agree with everything but not your opinion on Dharmesh. If you do not know a person well enough then you shut your mouth and keep watching what is happening rather than poking your nose. And the fact that he is cunning is proved by the fact that for a general discussion he called all the siblings and where it came to property matters he chose to call only Vinod and Manjusha because he probably knows that his argument might not go down well with Varsha. This shows that his only motive in life is to get rid of Manav by hook or crook.

Anupama:


Not everyone is like that na?

some sit and observe before they react and are naturally accomodating/ good faith by nature like Satish.

but dharmesh is not satish. he has a "I know Best" attitude which seems to have worked for him in business as it is very ruthless and overconfident approach and has gone unchallenged in his personal life as he is an only child.

I do agree though he is observant enough to realize that in his buffet table plot - varsha is the weakest link

I think even if Vaishali has reservations she will go along with his suggestion out of loyalty to him

Varsha will not. she will tell Satish and he is so pro ArMan he will intervene

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Extremely well written Hope .I am very proud of you , you are doing such a fantastic job these days with your analysis ...

Whatever you said about Savita is very very true .I think this is exactly what you wanted Manav to tell his mother , you had specified in your post yesterday and the guy did exactly that , in his own respectable and dignified style .Manav ...biwi ka chamcha ??? 😲...yeah right ,

Don't make me laugh Savita .

His wife cannot even sleep next to him though she is perhaps dying to do so , because Manav himself is not ready for that.

A one time he really yelled at her ....well, she was asking for it .

About Dharmesh , I don't know Hope .Archcna is a big girl . He has to stop interfering in her life .He too left his mandap and did a love marriage so what if Archan married the man she loved ...

Dharmesh is interfering way too much I think ....

I agree Tanyadi but i don't think he is the type of person to understand this

i completly agree abt punni, sum times i just is she a really a daughter of manju or is she adopted.

Hai Hope Di.Excellent Analysis again.👏
Needless to say.It was too good and Agree with you.

Manav was too good and loved him.He Behaved,Exactly the way you put
yesterday and the way we expected and said it all to his mother which i wish to hear.Actually heart melted towards him,on seeing the pain in his eyes when his mother
itself taunted him and then his dialogue that you dont have the right anymore. A Good boy by nature has become a good man and a good Husband too yesterday.He has transformed to a Man grown with spine and sensiblity I wish to see this manav for a long time and so happy now(because atlast by all means,he is going to keep my arch happy in all this).He has been solving all problems,one by one in a sensible and satisfied manner,only one remaining is to find a good job for him.Hope he find that too soon
in the way as you said.

And your last sentence on punni was great and I loved it.🤗 That girl was so sweet and was a medicine to my archu's hurt yesterday.Too good.I felt sad on seeing
archu crying like that and felt terrible on the treatment she got,but this little sweet girl with her words and gesture not only made archu feel better , made me too feel good.

Di,Regarding Dharmu,I dont know what to say.you were right,but somewhere
for me,He appears as a so not good one who doesn't comes in the category of people like sathish or manav.As you said,yes he did not know manav,so he need not worship or be affectionate to manav.But we acknowledge something when our loved ones or closed ones say something about it.And even though our opnion may differ,we will keep away from it.So in dharmu's case archu ,Mano baba and even sulo is in favour of manav
and they have accepted him.so why should dharmu have a problem with it. if he doesn't like he can keep him away from them But trying to spoil them through manipulation is not good.This property sharing was not a good one.Ok to make manav struggle why to bring sulo and mano in streets(taht too we know how manju is).Till they are alive ,they
should enjoy their prperty and savings na. I think ,even in this also manav is going to shine by not accepting it and only that time they wil understand what manv values more(its archu yaar).

good take hope,


yesterday's episode was the awakening of many characters

Manav- he got see his mother's hate for archana. the way she told that she would distribute sweets at the death of archana bought tears in his eyes.

Archana- the cracks in her family. Now she knows that love fills your heart but you need to take care of other vital parts of your body too. for that you need money and for that a job. she has to encourage manav to find a job immediately.

Savita- she lost a son to fate and other due to her words. The actress is fabulous and conveyed it convincingly.

manju- That dramesh is interested in property, which she thought belonged to her only. she has got a competitor.

Hi Hope!

Excellent Take!!!

Will reply in sort of the same way.

1.) Manav: Excellent job by Manav. The best thing about him is that he knows how to protest in a way that is not disrespectful, so that tomorrow there is nothing nasty left to moan about from his side at least. Very good job.

I too was thinking about the ghar jamai thing they are stressing about. Manav is certainly not a 'ghar-jamai'. It is just the V-gang's idea, cos they hate Manav and when you hate someone, you tend to think negatively no matter how right he is.

My father, at one instance, stayed at his in-laws house for about two months, despite his brothers staying quite close by, when he had a severe accident and was recuperating. (We were not at our home town). The reason- his brothers flatly refused that they would not be able to take care. (We had family problems) and my Mom certainly could not handle a bedridden man all alone who was not in a condition to get back to our home town. We were at my maternal grandparents' for almost two months (more than Manav- Archana intend to stay). Does that make my father a 'ghar jamai'? Certainly not! Such gestures are kind and helpful gestures of a loving family, nothing else. They only strengthen bonds, like my father became very close to my maternal grandpa after the incident.

Similarily Manav is in no way a ghar jamai. It is just the V-gang, Dharmesh and Majusha who refer to him as one. I don't think Sulo-Mano or Satish call him a gharjamai.

2.) Dharmesh: I agree with your take that Dharmesh is no villain. He is a grey character. The two flaws in his character are:

1.) Self-opiniated: I agree that his viewpoint is bound to be different from Satish, Sulo etc. cos he does not know Manav well. But if he does not know Manav well, then why has he formed such a tough opinion of Manav? Why does he not even give the benefit of doubt to people like Satish, Sulo, Mano- thinking that they know Manav much better than me, having known him for two years? Here Dharmesh completely irritates me, cos he not only disregards their opinion, but has sort of brainwashed the rest of the family members too. Still, I would not say he is completely bad, the V-gang is worse than him cos they know Manav quite well, but still choose to be blind and ungrateful to him.

Dharmesh wants everyone to listen to his POV (remember his dialogues- "Try and understand Archu, Maine jo kiya, meri jagah koi aur hota to yehi karta"'-) but does not listen to others views AT ALL.

2.) Hypocrite: He hasn't forgiven Archana for one slap, but completely forgotten that what he was doing (sending an innocent to jail) was something very very wrong. When Archana slapped him, he did not think for one second that what she did was what anyone would have done in her place, when someone whom you loved has been thrown in jail for third degree torture. And then he goes on with his rant of 'Maine jo kiya, meri jagah koi aur hota to yehi karta" -🤢

He didn't even TRY to do things the right way. He just choose the simplest way out- send Manav to jail. Satish too eventually agreed to send Manav to jail, but only when Jay and Dharmesh very smartly convinced him that there was no route out. Then also Satish felt guilty, and my heart went out to him. Dharmesh does not feel guilty in the least till date. He behaves like the victim. 'Bechara Dharmu, jisko Gandi bacchi Archu ne thappad mara' - Pah! Fatty! 😡

And when Manav returned from jail, he behaved as if he was the victim and Manav was the criminal and a disgusting person, whereas ideally he should have apologised to Manav. He didn't even feel guilty of sending the man to third degree torture! Cold blooded man!!! Arey if you are angry that you had to go to jail, then be angry at Archu na? Why be angry with Manav? In contrast, Satish was so modest and apologised to Manav and gave him a raise as well as penance. My blood boils remembering the dharmesh-Manav scene. I'm eagerly waiting to see poetic justice, I will relish the scene with glee. 😈