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Posted: 14 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: zarmeeno

U r saying if she goes and accepts somebody else it was not true love. I am saying that from the beginning it might have been just love but not true love coz true love does not need any proof. And Sid did not believe the Sharma until he came to know from the third party about Keshav's innocence. What true love r u guys talking about just remebering the things from the past, going out on 2 dates, singing a song and threaten to give away ur life is not true love. True love is being there for ur love, believing in t hem and not just believing in them but believing in their believe, to trust them to respect them. If Nivi would have done the same thing to Sid's mom would he able to forgive them.
And honestly for me if she does go back to him she did not love her father and family and a guy's love is more important to her than the self respect of her family.
What is rape? Kisi ki izat kay saath khelna. So for me what Soods did to Nivi and family was verbal rape and Sid was part of it.

u are forgetting here that Soods were not spared!! The dialogues which Nyantara daadi gave back was no less than lashes !!! Sharmas were not raped!!! they are too strong for that!!
i know u have been using this word all the time!!
What is rape???/
when u rape someone verbally the other person is rendered helpless and is morally wounded and is beyond repair!!
so u have no belief in nivis and dadis strenghth!!!
How can anyone rape people who are sooo strong morally and who are so righteous!!
I think really u need to correct ur thinking!!
NAyantaras slap Nivi wprds to Yashodara are all such slaps on their faces!The way goodness won there was exceptional👏Physically pushing Keshav was abit too much but did u notice how
Nivi just went and physically pushed Jwahar!!
This was not Rape as u keep on saying becoz in such cases the victims dont give back!!
Here there was a moral battle and NAyantara daadi and Nivi won the battle!
For me that day was victory over evil that is why Nivi could go back intpo that Koti her head held high!!!
Sp please dont use that word again since it is like mocking Nayantara dadi and navis courage and strength!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: akhilha

u are forgetting here that Soods were not spared!! The dialogues which Nyantara daadi gave back was no less than lashes !!! Sharmas were not raped!!! they are too strong for that!!

i know u have been using this word all the time!!
What is rape???/
when u rape someone verbally the other person is rendered helpless and is morally wounded and is beyond repair!!
so u have no belief in nivis and dadis strenghth!!!
How can anyone rape people who are sooo strong morally and who are so righteous!!
I think really u need to correct ur thinking!!
NAyantaras slap Nivi wprds to Yashodara are all such slaps on their faces!The way goodness won there was exceptional👏Physically pushing Keshav was abit too much but did u notice how
Nivi just went and physically pushed Jwahar!!
This was not Rape as u keep on saying becoz in such cases the victims dont give back!!
Here there was a moral battle and NAyantara daadi and Nivi won the battle!
For me that day was victory over evil that is why Nivi could go back intpo that Koti her head held high!!!
Sp please dont use that word again since it is like mocking Nayantara dadi and navis courage and strength!!

For me it was rape but np I will not use that word again. Andeven if its a battle Naintara Dadi and Nivi did not win the battle she just learned how to fight the battle. The battle has yet to be won
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Posted: 14 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: sssiham

@Akhila..Nivi knew Sid...but the Sid she saw that day yelling at her and insulting her family was someone else. How is she supposed to know that he was manipulated and all that. When he realized his mistake also, he did not explain anything to her or apologize to her. THe one time that he came there, he just kept saying that he wanted to know the truth, not that he was sorry for what he did.

The depth of what he did to Nivi, he still probably does not realize since he does not know that Keshav tried to commit suicide or that he has left the house. So for Nivi, for whom, like we all know, family comes first, these outcomes of what happened that day have left a void in her feelings towards him.
Till Sid came to know of the fraud happening, he also hated Nivi. Remember how he behaved towards her when he met her at the hospital. How come that is forgotten. His love and all that took a backseat at that time. No Putul or anything then. Now he wants to repent and he expects her to just take him back just like that. I think that should not happen.

yeah i understand that!! but who says he asking to be taken back!! he just doesnt want to get married to Divya! He was bearing his soul in front of god when heNivi heard him!! other wise he knows what grave SIN he has committed!!
i dont think he has the face to even ask Nivi forgiveness at this point!
I amnot all saying all this accepting back and them leading ahappy married life should happen now!
Sid and Nivi both were disillusioned with their love!! Not Hate! other wise both would not even look at eachother!!
Try to understand that even Nivi keeps sayiong that she wants to make sid believe that she does not love him!! She never says i dont love him any more!!
there is a difference!!Sid has faulted in fact committed a crime but they will be united somehow thru Viren or atleast he will try to do that!!Becoz Viren knows She has long back forgiven Sid!! And might still love him!! thats what viren thinks!!My POV
So she has that self imposed restraint and the wall around her!! at this stage she is just bothered about Divyas happiness !! So we have to just wait and see!!
Honestly i love VIren too!! But How they will end up together is really important here!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: akhilha

Hi there u are the only person out there who understands how i see things! whether it will happen our way or not ! there is nothing to lose if we hope!! isnt it!!😛So i know i might be even laughed at but i really just wanted to tell what is in my mind! i still havent seen that promo! That phoenix comparison is really good!! i liked that! so tell me do you think there will be wedding now! who do you think will actually getr married😆


Nice to see someone thinking on the same lines as me😊.....

But at this point I really think none of the marriages should happen😆.........all the misunderstandings should be cleared out first and then the right people should get married by their own will....i.e. Sid n Nivi......by their own choice because they love each other.....and not due to any influence.....😉

And yes however much people try to malign him, for me Sid is also a victim of Chanchal's crooked game as is Nivi.......if we unbiasedly analyze the series of events from Sid-Nivi's secret marriage up to the separation.....we would see that everything was carefully planned to make them happen the way they did......including Sid's reaction......if someone is made to think even for a second that the person standing in front of you is responsible for your father's death, then he/she would react much more than Sid did.....
I must say Chanchal's timing was perfect....and dadaji was very carefully used in the game to make Sid the Scapegoat.....

For me the show has been through its lowest point.....and now it is the building up stage.....as is Sid's redemption.....which has already started.......dadaji's recovery would clear things up further....

we can surely do hope 4 the best.....😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: suzi_b


Nice to see someone thinking on the same lines as me😊.....

But at this point I really think none of the marriages should happen😆.........all the misunderstandings should be cleared out first and then the right people should get married by their own will....i.e. Sid n Nivi......by their own choice because they love each other.....and not due to any influence.....😉

And yes however much people try to malign him, for me Sid is also a victim of Chanchal's crooked game as is Nivi.......if we unbiasedly analyze the series of events from Sid-Nivi's secret marriage up to the separation.....we would see that everything was carefully planned to make them happen the way they did......including Sid's reaction......if someone is made to think even for a second that the person standing in front of you is responsible for your father's death, then he/she would react much more than Sid did.....
I must say Chanchal's timing was perfect....and dadaji was very carefully used in the game to make Sid the Scapegoat.....

For me the show has been through its lowest point.....and now it is the building up stage.....as is Sid's redemption.....which has already started.......dadaji's recovery would clear things up further....

we can surely do hope 4 the best.....😊

i love the way u coolheadely analyze the things and put it in words!! i was just waiting for ur response!
Yes At this stage marriages are abig No! but they are hinting at double weddings!!
So let me tell Going by the things I feel Sid Nivi will be reunited under pressure or manipulation! Atleast Nivi is definitely not willing!!
But the actual Sid punishment will start post wedding😆😆Coz i feel Nivi might not let him anywhere near her nor will she commit to him! That is why may be they have stressed about the underlying chemistry and selfimposed restraint!!😆So it seems Sids agony will take an other form later on!!😆this manipulation can be done only by Viren and he might include chanchal in the plan saying that If Sid goes behind NIvi after marriage then he will forgo the SOods name coz that is what dadi expects!!And chanchal will be more than happy to help him!😆 and i am scared that he might break Nivis heart in the process!By decieving her into marriage with SId and also compromise on his marriage which is not fair!
Somehow i cant seem to figure out a fair solution!!😕😕 these are just random possibilities!! what do you think!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Why r all the topics turning to the same discussion??? This topic was about 'Sid's redemption' and it has again turned into 'Should Nivi accept Sid' battle.........the same thing over n over again........i know most people r against Sid at this point but is it necessary that everyone should have the same way of seeing things? Can't anybody think differently?😕

Sid's redemption is not only about Nivi accepting him back but it is more about Sid correcting his mistakes and setting things back in order....which I am sure he will .....Sid as a character is much more than just being Nivi's love......that he has accepted his mistake and already begun the process of restoring things (his apology to Nayantara dadi) shows the strength of his character.....he is not shying away from his mistakes.....

And i would still say that Sid is also a victim of situations as Nivi......and dadaji is the main pawn here.....
Chanchal had planned everything carefully.....she very well knew that Sid would never say a word against the Sharmas if dadaji was not against them....which Sid did not at the beginning, he very much sided with Keshav.........
Chanchal made Sid go out of Shimla for only a day......and in that one day she succeeded in turning dadaji against Keshav (which was unthinkable)......
Chanchal did not even give Sid the time to think what he was doing......from blissful happiness he was thrown straight into this mayhem....where even his dadaji turned into a mute spectator as yashodhara hurled accusations......Sid's greatest weakness is his dadaji.....and Chanchal knew that....and that is why she used dadaji as a pawn to turn Sid against the Sharmas......of course if he had time to think before reacting, his actions would have been different......if anybody is made to think that the person standing in front of u is responsible for ur father's death, then he would react much more than Sid did..........
And see the irony of fate....'when dadaji had to speak up he kept mum and today when he so badly wants to speak up for his grandson he cannot!!! He has no other option than to be a mute witness to his grandson'e life getting destroyed!!!😭

And as far as Sid apologizing to Nivi is concerned.....that cannot be that plain and simple....come on, this is a daily soap, there has to be some drama......when Sid bares his heart out to Nivi...it will be another beautifully enacted emotional scene, which we will all enjoy I am sure....😉 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: akhilha

i love the way u coolheadely analyze the things and put it in words!! i was just waiting for ur response!

Yes At this stage marriages are abig No! but they are hinting at double weddings!!
So let me tell Going by the things I feel Sid Nivi will be reunited under pressure or manipulation! Atleast Nivi is definitely not willing!!
But the actual Sid punishment will start post wedding😆😆Coz i feel Nivi might not let him anywhere near her nor will she commit to him! That is why may be they have stressed about the underlying chemistry and selfimposed restraint!!😆So it seems Sids agony will take an other form later on!!😆this manipulation can be done only by Viren and he might include chanchal in the plan saying that If Sid goes behind NIvi after marriage then he will forgo the SOods name coz that is what dadi expects!!And chanchal will be more than happy to help him!😆 and i am scared that he might break Nivis heart in the process!By decieving her into marriage with SId and also compromise on his marriage which is not fair!
Somehow i cant seem to figure out a fair solution!!😕😕 these are just random possibilities!! what do you think!!


Double marriage....hope that does not happen😕
If Sid-Divya marriage happens that would take the story to further lows.....the same cliche loving someone and marrying someone else.....and yes if under pressure circumstances if Sid-Nivi marriage happens now without their relationship getting repaired then that wouldn't be good either.....so hoping this whole marriage thing gets cancelled at this point...😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: suzi_b

Why r all the topics turning to the same discussion??? This topic was about 'Sid's redemption' and it has again turned into 'Should Nivi accept Sid' battle.........the same thing over n over again........i know most people r against Sid at this point but is it necessary that everyone should have the same way of seeing things? Can't anybody think differently?😕


Sid's redemption is not only about Nivi accepting him back but it is more about Sid correcting his mistakes and setting things back in order....which I am sure he will .....Sid as a character is much more than just being Nivi's love......that he has accepted his mistake and already begun the process of restoring things (his apology to Nayantara dadi) shows the strength of his character.....he is not shying away from his mistakes.....

And i would still say that Sid is also a victim of situations as Nivi......and dadaji is the main pawn here.....
Chanchal had planned everything carefully.....she very well knew that Sid would never say a word against the Sharmas if dadaji was not against them....which Sid did not at the beginning, he very much sided with Keshav.........
Chanchal made Sid go out of Shimla for only a day......and in that one day she succeeded in turning dadaji against Keshav (which was unthinkable)......
Chanchal did not even give Sid the time to think what he was doing......from blissful happiness he was thrown straight into this mayhem....where even his dadaji turned into a mute spectator as yashodhara hurled accusations......Sid's greatest weakness is his dadaji.....and Chanchal knew that....and that is why she used dadaji as a pawn to turn Sid against the Sharmas......of course if he had time to think before reacting, his actions would have been different......if anybody is made to think that the person standing in front of u is responsible for ur father's death, then he would react much more than Sid did..........
And see the irony of fate....'when dadaji had to speak up he kept mum and today when he so badly wants to speak up for his grandson he cannot!!! He has no other option than to be a mute witness to his grandson'e life getting destroyed!!!😭

And as far as Sid apologizing to Nivi is concerned.....that cannot be that plain and simple....common, this is a daily soap, there has to be some drama......when Sid bares his heart out to Nivi...it will be another beautifully enacted emotional scene, which we will all enjoy I am sure....😉 😊

Awww i love the way ur putting things!! yes i was just making them understand that i have adifferent view thats all! If i believe in something i feel is right its just my POV!! i will never impose it on anyone!! i just write wht i feel!! thats all !! But i do respect if someone doesnt want to accept becoz they have belief isn something which according to them is right!! itotally respect it! i do not mind at all!! nor should you!!
These are just discussions and are actually very eye opening!! i had agood time in fact!!
iknow what u mean when u talk about Sid coz i feel the samething!!
So i have really started to enjoy now that things might turn out good!! Whatever it is i feel Sid NIvi union is definitely there!!
So many things hinting at that!! but still if it doesnt happen i will still enjoy the show coz atleast the evil will be taught alesson and romance will be in the Air!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: akshitaAtiwari

sid no father,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

alll evil aroun.......

no support.........................lol of responsibliis,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pain & pain

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 is that how u answer questions in exams? "water..........molecules..................smalll & small................."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
yea the guy has no father which means he shud've respected nivi's father all the MORE! becuz he realizes what a father is! becuz as nivi's love, he shud've seen her father as HIS father! what he did showed that other than loving nivi he didnt have even an OUNCE of respect for her parents.... and that is the reason he is not the right guy for nivi... all evil around? har drame mein har jaga u find evil... so what? u comply to it and become indifferent to injustice being done around u?!

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