DISCUSSION: What should b done 2 Such Yuvraaj Cases?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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by watching the fiction out of this serial, one has to be just bow upon b/w good and evil... Yuvraaj and his family are evil and what ever they did is sheer awful..

But i want to know....what if in real cases ...what should be done with such yuvraaj cases if they are in real life...Without going evil or chooing the bad path
should the Parents kill the child if he is born this way?
Throw him away at some place?
or get rid of him by any means..
becoz in no way the society shall accept such a person....if a life is full of disgrace and embarassmant...there is hardly any way out.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i have raised this question long back 😆..what do they try to justify by showing this drama ....
acc to me such children has to be killed at birth itself ... not just hijra issue any kind of seriously handicapped new borns must be killed at birth itself keeping in mind their future life..i would say keeping them alive is a sin not killing them....i know this kind of act is heinous and is a crime but have to be practical... parents must realise how long they could take care of their child....
but for a mother its gonna be really difficult 😒....i was peeded off when shyamrao said to jagirdars during the conversation " jis bache ko aap garmebi nahi rakna chaheata uska aap gar basana chate hae" what is he coming to say...means had he got this kind of a child no matter he is born after 10yrs of married life he would have either killed him or thrown him somewhere 🤢 ....and the cvs way of handling yuvraj's character justifies this heinous act (here i'm not supporting uv cuz of dhruv 😉) see cuz of yuvraj's whims and self ego whole jagirdar clan is destroyed...one has to credit jagirdars on this issue they still love yuvraj sacrificing their own lives Rakt Sambandh is more applicable to them 👏... but cvs will destroy their unity very soon cuz they r villains 😉
u could say he should have been brought up with good morals but if anyone agrees ot not reality is these handicaps have a cruel heart 😈...only in films and serials they show them as saints ..RS has shown the reality 👍🏼...most of the people also likes to watch those unreal stories just like jerry always wins in tom & jerry cartoon..see in baba aise var dundo they r justifying that midget's desire to marry a normal lad ..she is least bothered about his feelings 😡...i can guess in future tracks she'll be shown as saint 🤢....BAVD is topping the chart and RS languising at the bottom 😡
there is no way for yuvraj kind of a person in real life to survive after committing 7 murders..no chance for rehabiliation...anyway kanoon will hang him to death which he can well do it by himself without undergoing much torment
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^^
u have showed indeed remarakable depth to ur discussion...very good
but i think its always very difficult for parents to actually *kill* their child even if he is born this way. coming back to serial, somehow they have shown yuvraaj quite a nasty guy/eunuch whatever... but he behaves normally like any other person, he looks balanced with no other physical or internal disabilties, his voice is manly two, so that i want to say tht may be its a tv show so it can be given a chance but when to think of it in real life it is quite scary both for the child and his parents...
and BTW JASx, I completely support ur view tht dhruv should leave this show at once, i mean come on DOESNT he know abt wht working in Tv means? its not like films tht people can see u in differenct characters, in tv wht charcter they wtch they strt recognizing with the same role the actor is doing.....so in tht Case dhruv should be very careful while going in public....some nasty people women especially ask crazy questions from ur character from the show...without knowing who u actually are??
I was never a follower of this show....but today i saw tht promo in which yuvraaj was exposed....and tht doctor is calling him ....Guranteed if dhruv's parents had watched it...they would have slapped him LOLZ just kidding....but it was disturbing...i too like this guy..nd feel sorry for him
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I can't say I agree w/ JASx that such babies should be killed @ birth itself, although I can see where s/he is coming from. If such defects can be detected in the pre-natal stage, I don't have problems w/ their being aborted. But I don't think such babies can be abandoned.

I agree w/ JASx re: Shyamrao. After all, Shyamrao loved Sandhya dearly despite her becoming blind due to an accident, and the fact that she was a liability on everyone, so how can he blame the Jagirdars for keeping Yuvraj? His outrage @ being deceived was justified, but not his question to Puru on why they had someone like Yuvraj @ home.

I do think the Jagirdars made some mistakes along the way - from forging the birth certificate to trying to have Yuvraj assimilate. It would have been one thing had Yuvraj been growing up in San Francisco, but Gwalior is not San Francisco. So they would have done well to raise Yuvraj in private, have him educated via correspondence course (like Sudha, Sandhya's avatar in Jyoti did) and then have him be good @ a few things, say programming, or that sort of stuff, and live w/ modest goals.

Instead, they spoilt him to the core, and gave him everything w/o teaching him values, choosing to blame it on the gods. I agree that RS is showing things the way they are, and that such people usually don't become saints. I'm not suggesting that Yuvraj should have been one, but his parents could definitely have drawn the line on a lot of things. I don't condone Yuvraj's friends harassing him, but that doesn't justify his murdering anybody & everybody who discovered his secret, as he narrated to Neeraj. Similarly, everyone in the family should have taken Suni chachi's position, and told Yuvraj that he could have anything, but marriage & kids weren't among them. In fact, he could either have married someone after due disclosure, or he could have entered an open marriage. As for kids, like Sandhya suggested, they could have adopted - there are any number of kids in India alone who would be blessed to be raised in the Jagirdar mansion alone, even if the father's sexuality is suspect. Incidentally, that doesn't even need to be mentioned, and once Yuvraj is grown up, it typically wouldn't come up in polite company.

Also, while this was Yuvraj, and it's good that all 3 brothers were dedicated to his happiness, they should also have looked @ the bigger picture in terms of the family and explored what was good for the family as a whole. Sarla had legitimate concerns about no attention being paid to her kids, which Pankaj not only ignored, but treated her roughly for bringing it up. Similarly, since a waris is so important, why didn't Puru & Prabha ask DK & Sunita to try have sons, assuming that sons were what was wanted (or else, Jyoti & Priya were just as legitimate heirs to the family, no?) Incidentally, say Neeraj & Sandhya had agreed to this plan and Sandhya had a daughter, what would Yuvraj have done then - keep having kids until Neerdhya begat a son, as many lower class people do? I think that had the Jagirdars kept this picture in mind, they'd have made better decisions then they have done by making Yuvraj the face of the family.

I do think that such people should be kept in the family, but the family should have a policy of protecting that person's privacy, and in case things like marriage come up, have a full disclosure policy w/ a condition that the party to which such facts are being disclosed treat it as confidential in case the deal doesn't go through.

Been a while since I've typed a long bhashan, so can't say I didn't enjoy writing this one 😉😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tweety_lovely

^^^

u have showed indeed remarakable depth to ur discussion...very good
but i think its always very difficult for parents to actually *kill* their child even if he is born this way. coming back to serial, somehow they have shown yuvraaj quite a nasty guy/eunuch whatever... but he behaves normally like any other person, he looks balanced with no other physical or internal disabilties, his voice is manly two, so that i want to say tht may be its a tv show so it can be given a chance but when to think of it in real life it is quite scary both for the child and his parents...
and BTW JASx, I completely support ur view tht dhruv should leave this show at once, i mean come on DOESNT he know abt wht working in Tv means? its not like films tht people can see u in differenct characters, in tv wht charcter they wtch they strt recognizing with the same role the actor is doing.....so in tht Case dhruv should be very careful while going in public....some nasty people women especially ask crazy questions from ur character from the show...without knowing who u actually are??
I was never a follower of this show....but today i saw tht promo in which yuvraaj was exposed....and tht doctor is calling him ....Guranteed if dhruv's parents had watched it...they would have slapped him LOLZ just kidding....but it was disturbing...i too like this guy..nd feel sorry for him



me hugs and kisses u ...🤗 for the first time i'm seeing one more dhruv fan here 😃.... i dnt think his parents would slap him 😆 somewhere in one of his interviews he said he agreed to play this role on his father's advice 😡 poor guy has only 5 fans on his fan page 😆 ...he looks handsome (see his fb pics he looks dashing ☺️) and is a talented actor wasting his career by agreeing to portray these kind of roles 😡 (he has a cute innocent face making us sympathise uv). ..i even expressed my contempt on my fb msg to him..i dnt mind how he takes it ..just wanna let him know the feedback 😊..RS is one serial that has good looking villains other shows have ugly -ve char making us hate them easily 😆.... THANK GOD this show isnt much popular and gonna end by next month 😛 he said v can see him in a comp diff role v soon...lets hope its true 😳

i still feel RS would have succeeded had they not portrayed uv this crassly...there was a tamil film in 90s chinna thambi i think it was remade in hindi also showing a love story bet a beautiful rich girl and a poor uneducated eunuch (a hermaphrodite but looks and behaves like a man) that film was a super hit... viewers like to watch vulnerable people win as opposed to reality (i'm not offending any naman fans or neerdhya fans 😉)...here they could have atleast shown as yuvraj letting sandhya go to neeraj and him getting reformed and leading his life successfully in other ways instead of showing this many murders by jagirdars..i wud even feel pity on dk at the end 😒...they should understand the diff bet telegu show viewers and hindi show viewers there only a few house wives watch these crap shows for their time pass but here a lot of youngsters alot time in their busy schedule to watch their fav actors and shows... its really disheartening to watch this guy crying and pleading to police not to remove his clothes 😭 i stopped watching this show a few weeks back itself just reading the written updates hoping it'll end soon 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JASx


me hugs and kisses u ...🤗 for the first time i'm seeing one more dhruv fan here 😃.... i dnt think his parents would slap him 😆 somewhere in one of his interviews he said he agreed to play this role on his father's advice 😡 poor guy has only 5 fans on his fan page 😆 ...he looks handsome (see his fb pics he looks dashing ☺️) and is a talented actor wasting his career by agreeing to portray these kind of roles 😡 (he has a cute innocent face making us sympathise uv). ..i even expressed my contempt on my fb msg to him..i dnt mind how he takes it ..just wanna let him know the feedback 😊..RS is one serial that has good looking villains other shows have ugly -ve char making us hate them easily 😆.... THANK GOD this show isnt much popular and gonna end by next month 😛 he said v can see him in a comp diff role v soon...lets hope its true 😳

i still feel RS would have succeeded had they not portrayed uv this crassly...there was a tamil film in 90s chinna thambi i think it was remade in hindi also showing a love story bet a beautiful rich girl and a poor uneducated eunuch (a hermaphrodite but looks and behaves like a man) that film was a super hit... viewers like to watch vulnerable people win as opposed to reality (i'm not offending any naman fans or neerdhya fans 😉)...here they could have atleast shown as yuvraj letting sandhya go to neeraj and him getting reformed and leading his life successfully in other ways instead of showing this many murders by jagirdars..i wud even feel pity on dk at the end 😒...they should understand the diff bet telegu show viewers and hindi show viewers there only a few house wives watch these crap shows for their time pass but here a lot of youngsters alot time in their busy schedule to watch their fav actors and shows... its really disheartening to watch this guy crying and pleading to police not to remove his clothes 😭 i stopped watching this show a few weeks back itself just reading the written updates hoping it'll end soon 😃

What LOL his father wanted him to do this???LOL i hope next time he doesn't ask him to do a role of a BAR DANCER😆😆😆😆😆😆oops no offenceEmbarrassed but i agree tht yuvraaj is true evil in the sense whateva he does....i mean its so childish u can not kill the whole society for knowing ur truth...its far better to leave a peaceful life...make lots of money...then the society will give u respect no matter u marry or not...but still the internal war rage and its difficult to face it. Waise I don't think sandhya has to do much to take revenge if she just pick up a mic and tell what his husband actually is....jagidars will be automatically doomed.😆😆😆
as far as BAVD is concerned, well its a daily soap, u cant expect it to be pure for more than few weeks i just watch it for the little wonder...i hope she gets much success...
My suggesstion to RS. tht it would have worked on Colors, not imagine....becoz as far as i know their bigest hit show has been 'rakhi dramebaaz ka stupid swamyvar🤢🤢🤢 and BAVD is topping just becoz they hid the girl frm the promotions before the show...LIKE jassi jaisi koi nahi and came as a shock to audiences which helped the channel to do well .
and ur connected to dhruv on FB... nice plz pm me his FB link.😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

I can't say I agree w/ JASx that such babies should be killed @ birth itself, although I can see where s/he is coming from. If such defects can be detected in the pre-natal stage, I don't have problems w/ their being aborted. But I don't think such babies can be abandoned.

I agree w/ JASx re: Shyamrao. After all, Shyamrao loved Sandhya dearly despite her becoming blind due to an accident, and the fact that she was a liability on everyone, so how can he blame the Jagirdars for keeping Yuvraj? His outrage @ being deceived was justified, but not his question to Puru on why they had someone like Yuvraj @ home.

I do think the Jagirdars made some mistakes along the way - from forging the birth certificate to trying to have Yuvraj assimilate. It would have been one thing had Yuvraj been growing up in San Francisco, but Gwalior is not San Francisco. So they would have done well to raise Yuvraj in private, have him educated via correspondence course (like Sudha, Sandhya's avatar in Jyoti did) and then have him be good @ a few things, say programming, or that sort of stuff, and live w/ modest goals.

Instead, they spoilt him to the core, and gave him everything w/o teaching him values, choosing to blame it on the gods. I agree that RS is showing things the way they are, and that such people usually don't become saints. I'm not suggesting that Yuvraj should have been one, but his parents could definitely have drawn the line on a lot of things. I don't condone Yuvraj's friends harassing him, but that doesn't justify his murdering anybody & everybody who discovered his secret, as he narrated to Neeraj. Similarly, everyone in the family should have taken Suni chachi's position, and told Yuvraj that he could have anything, but marriage & kids weren't among them. In fact, he could either have married someone after due disclosure, or he could have entered an open marriage. As for kids, like Sandhya suggested, they could have adopted - there are any number of kids in India alone who would be blessed to be raised in the Jagirdar mansion alone, even if the father's sexuality is suspect. Incidentally, that doesn't even need to be mentioned, and once Yuvraj is grown up, it typically wouldn't come up in polite company.

Also, while this was Yuvraj, and it's good that all 3 brothers were dedicated to his happiness, they should also have looked @ the bigger picture in terms of the family and explored what was good for the family as a whole. Sarla had legitimate concerns about no attention being paid to her kids, which Pankaj not only ignored, but treated her roughly for bringing it up. Similarly, since a waris is so important, why didn't Puru & Prabha ask DK & Sunita to try have sons, assuming that sons were what was wanted (or else, Jyoti & Priya were just as legitimate heirs to the family, no?) Incidentally, say Neeraj & Sandhya had agreed to this plan and Sandhya had a daughter, what would Yuvraj have done then - keep having kids until Neerdhya begat a son, as many lower class people do? I think that had the Jagirdars kept this picture in mind, they'd have made better decisions then they have done by making Yuvraj the face of the family.

I do think that such people should be kept in the family, but the family should have a policy of protecting that person's privacy, and in case things like marriage come up, have a full disclosure policy w/ a condition that the party to which such facts are being disclosed treat it as confidential in case the deal doesn't go through.

Been a while since I've typed a long bhashan, so can't say I didn't enjoy writing this one 😉😆

nice discussion........👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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dhruv performing strip tease as a bar dancer



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Posted: 14 years ago
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&&

and sandhya attends his club as a man and enjoy his dance
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Posted: 14 years ago
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good looking villans???
yeah!!!
It does have, Yuvraj to start off with and DK and Rohit follow up!!!

But the most amazing thing I find here is not only Purushottam and Prabhavati but both his uncles too are intensely dedicated to Yuvraj. Normally we see uncles do this kinda stuff when they have their own selfish motives but I don't see any in Pankaj and DK's case, OK I understand DK might be interested in Sandhya 😈 but what about Pankaj??? 🤔
Any child will grow up to be spoilt like Yuvraj if he gets this kind of treatment. And I don't see any chances of his improvement of Yuvraj if they continue to save him like this even if he gets proved innocent by Neeraj being alive and that DK had killed Shyamrao.

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