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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: nikitagmc



That Mahabharata was the best one I saw. After that 2 versions came, both were bad. Ekta Kapoor's one was horrid. It looked like enactment of some Egyptian drama, all those strange clothes they wore.

Kools, you have a feminist circle or what????? 😆

You know Kools why I didn't persist about that ragging thing that day? Cos I understood it is difficult to make people believe that I actually had a good experience, that my juniors ran for me while I was in hospital and they have fun with me. There have been so many horror stories, that this harmless fun- is evil now. Just like dowry actually started as the bride's parent giving gifts to thier daughter voluntarily as sign of love (I'd read that it started with Parvati's parents giving her lots of gifts at the time of marriage) - but ended up as a horrific crime- that way.

I realised that even if my- and countless others experiences have been good- it is difficult to convince people that raggers are not really bad, and if done in a limit, it can actually be good for you. Cos the horrible stories have degraded this whole thing. Debate is actually useless. That is why I didn't even try and justify that thing- the whole time I said, I'm just trying to say a ragger is not necessarily a villain- not advocating ragging- using my people's experience as an example.

Its the same thing in my house also. every year, Mom and Dad say don't rag juniors, poor children they are. But I laugh like a Ravan, and say of course I will. And you know what- I was touched one day when one junior actually sent me a message (she was sick and I'd taken her to hospital and talked non stop to her)- that for the first time I felt like I was with a sibling- you don't choose your family, you fight with your siblings- but they make you feel good and love you and you learn to love them back. It was so touching. That was 2 years ago. I still haven't deleted that message- so touched I was.

That day when you said, not everyone's experience is so good, I decided to look up in the internet- and found blogs filled with ragging experiences- mostly engineering and medical ones- people ROFLing about their ragging days and remembering fondly how memorable they were.

And so I decided not to debate any more on this. Those who have had a good experience will always defend it. Those who have seen the horrific side of it, they will always hate it. Its just like believing the presence of God in an idol, if you believe he is there in it, even 100 proofs can't move you. If you don't have faith, a single scientific proof is sure to sway you away. And so just as we condemn dowry, maybe we should condemn ragging too, so that some order is retained. But my point is the same- all raggers are not villains. Depends on what one considers ragging- unleashing the animal in you- or having a bit of harmless fun for breaking the ice.

So lets call it a truce kools. I really don't think we will come at a conclusion. I don't have any big lines to say or heavy duty quotes to make, I just have experiences of a number of people- lots and lots of them. Of course I would gladly like to know your views on the same. But trust me kools, its not a 'i was abused so i will abuse type of thing.' I was ragged, but was never abused. I did ragging, but I never abused.


The thing is .........u didnt understand AT ALL what i tried to say .Ur saying ALL raggers r nOT bad ...........I am saying RAGGING IS AN EVIL . What ur saying is a miniscule part of MY TOPIC . Even if all r NOT , it doesn't lessen the horrific effects of the evil even a little bit . For the hundreds of examples u find where this great sibling bond is fostered I can quote thousands where horriic torture , gotten out of control can be quoted .
But thats nOT what I am talking about . Ur right , Lets call it a truce . That system has to be eradicated . If I talk on it , trust me , I can convince u . But I won't .
So Truce it is but niks , trust me , i know about THE BOND . The BOND caused by ragging .........I KNOW about it .Neither am I out of touch with it ..........nor is it the case i dont UNDERSTAND . I do , trust me , and YET i object to it .
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Kools: Hey, I said I would like to read your views okay? Do PM when you have time.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Kools out of curiosity I would like to know who was your most fav character and could kind a sorta relate to in Mahabharata??? U dont have to answer it here u could just PM me the name and short reason why....
Mahabharata is such a sore subject and something very close to my heart....
I so wish I was living somewhere close to u where I could attend when u speak at your meetings...Take your script or creative writing class just to get it under your belt and with what u know and are doing it will take u far...I know it...
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Posted: 14 years ago
mogga:

did not watch the show today. just first part. came back with mom and dad from evening out.

just wanted to drop in and say hi

Jay is smoking😆
the brief clip was amazing👏
👏
this is the baddest dude I have seen so far (worse than Ashwin) and me likes what me sees. uff who ever this actor is - he is finally being used for his acting potential. way to go BT and Jaywant👏

Kools

Mogga. Really Really like him. he is bad and yet I want him to win whatever he wants. 😃

I will comment on all your threads and saffy's and everyone else's posts (in reply to mine) on all your threads and mine this weekend

till then take care love🤗

Hope


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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Jasmine10

kool your analysis of archu reminded me of rani Padmini . how she might have felt when jumping in fire. her beauty destroyed the entire kingdom.
here archu love for Manv might destroy her brother-in-laws business .

husband & wife's relationship should be like scissors , cut whoever comes in between them. Archu is not a teenager nor a spoilt rich girl . she should be aware of what she is doing and the consequences of her actions on her family.

Jas,in Ramayan Ram destroyed an entire nation to get his wife back.He cud have left her to her fate.He is revered and praised.But there is a large section of DMK in TN,who debate against Ram and have created temples for Ravan,their debates r mind blowing actually on Sun TV.Wat Ram did to Vali has more commentaries than any other topic in Ramayan in Tamil.
Thus,Archu wanting to prove a fundamentally innocent manav as innocent and destroying families for it is a debatable item.If Manav really killed 2 guys just like that and she supports him,they both cannot be protagonists.But ppl here r sayin she shud be selfish,not go to jail etc.she blindly believes he is innocent-the essence of her character is not understood,forget being appreciated,it is condemned.But Ram is still considered perfect by majority and not by all,that is my point - there is something called perspective,perhaps democracy wise majority wins
Also is a deed gud only if its consequences r good? For example,Islam says if ur intention is gud and u do not act ,u r still rewarded something,if consequence is good,u r rewarded more ,if consequences r bad,ur still rewarded for a gud intention - It depends on each one's value system
But the basic drift now is that Archu shud not love manav anymore,so debate??😆The show is supposed to shut shop yaar😆And Manav is still debating wat is the relation between love and marriage,he will ulta make Mushty bigamus,tell him both r not actually important,in laws r more important,first girish then sulo😆I think Ankita is right,Manav shud marry Jay,he will please his in-laws for sure if not for anything else na😆show might be saved,2 handsom dudes,anyway its majority female viewership😆PR shows live in relationships as perfectly acceptable with middle class,why not gay relationships😆
Edited by SaffyFlower - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
[QUOTE=koolsadhu1000
Honestly , theres a LIMIT to the nonsensical glorification of Archu that goes on in the forum .
Huh?Ppl living in glass houses throwing stones?
I never thought I would have to repeat what I wrote to DyeHard
sad day.debate club closed.

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