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Posted: 14 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: aahana86

@ashu 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
mam thanks for actually posting 😃 wow my orders work 😲😆😆😆 okie ... hmm must say ashu u were quite in a lively mood when u made the reply😉 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Oyeee Aahana...i wrote such a serious post and u're saying that I was in a lively mood. Shocked😆 Well, see, this is why, i don't write here.. I give u such big homework of replying 😆😆 And Madam, ur orders worked this time ONLY 😳

well now my take on ur post goes as this :
this season is firstly doing miracles non mohit fans are appreciating him , we had praises for Sanaya as well for her scene the day before... and the likes of us who already loved them are getting crazier and like you have begun to like Sam more now i have begun to love Gunjan more 😲 🤣🤣🤣 okay but no more then Sam ☺️😆 he is still my fav guy 😉
I agree Aahana..S2 has belonged to SG and they've proved it with every epi that they can create magic which is beyond every praise. U know, i feel sooo happy and proud to see non-SGians liking them. This sooo speaks of the remarkable efforts MoNaya have put in the show. Hats off to them 👏👏

the lines bit i agree please let hitesh be back this guy is gonna kill the show with his lame lines he already killed bhushans once and now he revived bauji 😲😕
Seriously, Aahana...the dialogues these days are sooo disconnected at times. They end abrubtly and somehow, don't have the impact which we are soooo used to, in case of SG ofcourse. This thing needs to be addressed by the CVs on an urgent basis.

and now for the epi.... hmm ashu when nups asks em i agree sam was only one coherent enough to catch her words and ask questions as perhaps logic drove him more then emotions in compared to majan who as u rightly said just want nupur back , no questions asked no demands nothing.. but he ... he is asking as he needs to know not only her story of survival but also the reason of 3 years of sheer hell he went through which could have been avoided... making him raise queries
@ Bold: Aahana.. I wud say, that Sam does NOT want to know abt Nupur's whereabouts for the past 3years, coz of this reason. He's raising questions..for Gunjan..as well as for Mayank. He isn't asking her to get an answer for wat he went through..he wants to know that why Nupur didn't come back, coz that had left nothing but tears in the life of his Chashmish. This is wat he told Nupur...that "I was responsible for the accident and as a result of it..I just gave sadness, loneliness and tears to Chashmish" So, its not abt him..its abt Gunjan and Mayank.
and now for the lines... Ashu i agree they arent of the standards we are used to ... but i somehow feel what he did was right... currently he is still dazed by the mere fact nups is alive he isnt stable enough as what has it been just a few minutes since he actually saw her - supporting mayank was a gesture of friendship - witnessing the truth a diff thing. he stated the truth of his and gunjan' life today.. i know had he said what you wrote nupur would have learned the truth and gunjan would have a jerk too - but but here is the catch this is so Sam

rem the movie track he left when he felt he was wrong and she was mad at him ... its only when neil let the cat out of the bag she realized her error and asked for his forgiveness ON HER OWN... this time too i suppose ash will serve a similar purpose
As i said earlier..I totally agree that SG and M, all have lost their coherency after seeing Nups alive. I mean, how can it be possible, that she survived in the accident and never came back, or approached any one of them?? That's why I say, before commenting on this..we need to know Nupur's side of the story. Whether she is angry with the trio..or has memory loss.... things aren't clear on that front yet.
Coming to the Neil track, i agree wid wat u've written. The thing is Aahana, we both have written the same things (i mean, having the same essense) but our approach is mayb different. When Gunjan told Sam to leave from the shoot location..he did wat he had to (i.e. gave the cheque to Neil) and left the place without saying a word to Gunjan. THIS is wat, I want him to do here..and this is wat he IS doing here. He has lost everything in life, is living wid guilt every min..but still..he has one aim in life..his one point focus and that is to bring back the smile on Chashmish's face. As he himself said, that "I'm not doing all this to bring u back in my life, watever I did, was to bring u back to life..to make u smile again..to make u live again"...there's no mention of "I" in his life...neither was it in the Neil track, when he left..nor it is here.
Also, I've always seen a major role for Ash in this SG track..coz she's the one, who knows wat Sam has been through. Not only this, she is very close to Gunjan..and is one of those ppl, who can make Gunjan see in the direction, where Gunjan was trying not to see for the last 3 years. But..the way RoAsh are being dealt now..and esp. after knowing that Nups is alive..i can see the chances of Ash telling Gunjan abt Sam, a bit fading. And this is something, i do not and will not like. Ash has to speak up..I've been saying from day 1 that wat was the point of showing Sam in sooo much pain..when, no one is realizing his grief. But, for the ultimate end...his wounds will be cured by Gunjan..and that is wat will bring him back to life and more importantly, back to loving his own self.

Ashu u know i connect to Sam more then Gunji .. and so this is him.. he would not let anyone suffer ..but he cant make his woes evident too - Ashu rem he is a child of a broken family who for years lived with a happy go lucky guy image to camouflage his pain - lashing out ... is not him - not until he has had enough... and his past had not only made him vulnerable but also a silent sufferer- him saying LOOK YOU HURT ME - is not him... this is good cos Ashu i want gunji to realize her mistake and his pain by herself not as he pointed a finger

and him saying anything to nupur would not have budged her if majan cant do it ... but him lashing when they are quiet would not have made sense to him too - as majan are closer to her .. hence when they could quit on him for the same - they wouldnt have supported his anger either
@ Bold: I agree...and I didn't say anywhere that he made or shud make his wounds evident. In fact, i wrote that he shud not open his wounds himself, rather, Gunjan shud see, feel and realize them..and that process has already begun.
@ Red: Again, Aahana..i'm NOT saying that he shud've replied like this, that "look, u've hurt me..". Wat I meant was.. Nupur NEEDS to know that she was not the only one who suffered. SG and M were also equally, if not more, shattered. Nupur asked this, "ya tum in se ALAG ho?"...if his reply was, "haan..tum ne mujhey insey alag ker dia"...that wudn't have shown his pain..more than saying that he was his sister's fiance'..and in addition to this, it wud've implied, that yes.. YOU left us and coz of which, they left me..coz they love u more than anything else and anyone else..I'm not saying that he says how hurt he is.. Wat I mean is that he and they shud make Nupur realize that we stopped living the moment u left us. It's not abt Sam..its basically, about Nupur..that eventually connects Gunjan and Mayank wid her. And if Nupur is just angry here..she wud def. hate to know that coz of her...her li'll sisters left the love of her life..the love which was her reason of existance. I don't know whether i'm able to put forth my POV properly this time or not. 😳

in the end i agree Sam would reunite the trio .. and in the process the gang will esp Gunjan will realize what they did to him... and when they would learn of his worth he'd back off ... as i want to see it :P
Ashu as i see it him wanting to reunite the trio will have only 1 purpose to make Gunjan happy - he'd be least bothered abt his guilt... and it is why it'd hit hard when others would have to look at the burden he was made to carry ...realization by self is far more hard hitting then realization inflicted Ashu
Very true, Aahana. U know wat..for me..i can define Sam with one example. After the Devdas play, Gunjan told him, "i love u, but i hate myself for loving u".. According to me..and i know some of u won't agree here as well...this is also a pt where Sam's selflessness comes... He can live wid the fact that Gunjan hates him, but he CANNOT..just cannot..bear that Gunjan hates HERSELF for loving him. This is where, he decided to withdraw..coz for him..Gunjan's happiness is the most imp. thing and everything else is non-existant and immaterial in front of it.
So, yes, his aim is just to re-unite the family and that will automatically shed off the burden from his shoulders. Now the best part here is, that Gunjan will NOT let him go anywhere. After seeing Nups alive, the guilt has transferred to her....the guilt of making Sam's life hell, for no fault of his...and now, we know that Gunjan will cure every single wound of Sam..which she has already begun to see and will further see in the process of Sam (or otherwise) reuniting the family.

and well dont worry we both have a prob we cant stop 😆😆😆 i am fine ashu 🤣
I knowwwww... But, am seriously, done now. 😆😆😆

and lastly oh ya Bauji was remembered 😲 😲 😲
🤣🤣🤣🤣 may be he'd be back to give his aashirwad ... right now but the parent i m rooting for is Sam' mom I want to see her back - give us Sam' mom 🤣🤣🤣
Oh, tell me abt it Aahana...I was the happiest person, when I saw Sam's mom in the show and I loved how she was portrayed... But, after 2 or 3 appearances, she disappeared Confused😔 I've always wanted a SG and Sam's mom track..and for this i write a stupid OS also..but i guess, CVs have other ideas.

and Ashu... i will always ask u to write 😈 if u think you making this post can make me wanna quit baby you have so not got me right
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Awww!!! Aahana..this time i wrote...but lemme change the phrase a bit, for me.."orders (and not promises) are meant to be broken"
I'm outta here now....We'll discuss the remaining theories after the epi. 😉
Thank u sooo much Aahana for this great post. It was a pleasure reading and commenting here. And i'm sorry if anything has hurt anyone here.

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Posted: 14 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ayesha_80



Thanks a lot Ishita for agreeing wid me. Posted my comments at 3 am..and was dead sure, that today..i'll be welcomed with a lot of criticism..but ur reply, came as a bigggg sigh of relief. Thank God, i have a supporter here..😳🤗🤗

@bold: I know!! I was thinking that time that he should've said something like "Nahin, main tum sab se alag hoon.... Sab ke saath hote hue bhi main bilkul akela hoon...... " I so wanted his pain to come out at that moment. I really don't like the fact that they're just concentrating on Samrat being selfless and taking the blame for everything. He's bearing the guilt for 3 years..... That was the perfect opportunity to highlight his suffering. Too bad, the CVs totally missed it!!
@ Bold: EXACTLY, Ishita.. I've read Aahana's reply to my comments, so, will reply to her there...but u've exactly got wat i meant to say. It is not a matter of self projection or gaining sympathy. As I said, I want the trio to state facts for Nupur and that cud b by telling her, how each 3 of them have suffered coz of her being away. I know, most of the ppl liked his reply to Nupur..I have nothing against it..but as I said, it cud have been dealt in a MUCH better way.


Very true, Ishita. Wat I feel is..that we're having a lot of repetiton here. Accorging to me, NOTHING happened in yest's epi. I agree that after seeing Nups alive, everyone is very much out of senses and extremely emotional...but...instead of just repeating the things..I wud like the track to move ahead. Am interested to know Nupur's side of the story...and then, mayb..we can see how the trio, as well as Nupur, takes it.
Thanks again for replying to my post.



LOL!! Don't worry... What you said is soooo true. And actually your post encouraged me to think more over this track..... Seriously, and then I figured out that I actually find it annoying how everyone's shared their grief, with the exception of Samrat.

I don't want Samrat to gain sympathy either, but the condition that Nupur is in now, and Mayank and Gunjan are, he has to atleast tell Nupur about the kind of suffering he's been through these 3 years. He's the only one thinking rationally at the moment. And it's more about sharing his feelings with the other 3. He's been living under the guilt of killing Nupur for 3 years, and now that she's back I think he should be venting his feelings too. I may appear selfish here, but I really want someone to listen to Samrat this time.....As you said, there was nothing wrong in his reply to Nupur, but it could have been much better, cause it would have had immediate impact on Gunjan and Mayank. And yes, yesterday's epi was pretty much a waste, cause they were still going on about Nupur not recognising them, so I want the show to start moving now.

Thank you for your long post, cause it helped me think over the track clearly.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: aahana86



hey dear hi glad u liked the line for sam' feelings for 3 years ago .. i love it 😳


and i agree SaNu are gonna have a new vibe and feel now ... not the same fun and masti as before
i know gunjan not reacting was a disappointment but if we look at it her focus was just her di for the moment so in the long run we'd get some good of it
mohit is amazing me really with his portrayal of a tragic hero.. somehow there is some charm about such guys

in the end i want this to pay off .. his friendship and support to the gang making them realize how wrong were they... he was there when they needed him but sadly they cant say the same

Well no worries! SaNu will be full of masti and mazaak as soon as this track with Nupur is over. That's true. Gunjan was much more worried about Nupur and who wouldn't seeing their 'dead' sister alive😆. I wish Samrat had said something else besides about Gunjan. And same with Mayank and Gunjan. Like they should have talked about what they went through after she took an exit from their lives. It would have affected Nupur more IF (and hopefully is isn't memory loss) Nupur was only angry with them and this is all natak. And about Samrat, he's like another Devdas but turned out to be better than that. He was in sorrow for losing Gunjan but he did what he had to and just tried to bring a smile to his face.Embarrassed Oh the gang needs to realize the love and support that they are getting from Samrat is like another brother. Maybe if he helps re-unite Nupur with the other two, that they would realize what he has done for them.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very well said aahana.......👏. Samrat has expressed all of his pain, loneliness for almost 3 years in one single expression while saying " main tumhari behen ka mangetar thaa".
Samrat could able to convey his feeling of guilty when he said so. Regarding gunjan not reacting to that, I can say only one thing, the situation is totally different and she has met her sister after 3 years, whom everybody has thought to be dead. So that is not the proper time to react or vent her expressions.
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