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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mister.K.

If my house has a rat problem and a roach problem and if the rats outnumber the roaches 10:1, I will first take care of the rat problem.



But if both the pests are there because people in your house keep leaving treats for them, will starting to get rid of either help you? And if some of your house residents look exactly like the rodents or roaches – will you still kill them all for good measure.

Regarding the stats - Latinos are undoubtedly the highest illegal immigration population, especially when you add Mexico, Guatemala and other South American countries. The stats were to show the stereotype of the Latin immigrant is incorrect. Since 2000, Chinese and South Asian illegal immigration numbers have risen sharply compared to Latino numbers. I'll be curious to know what the stats will be for 05-10. I'm pretty positive the trend has continued.

I have other questions just not just about long term application of SB1070 but some also about illegal immigration issues in general if people wish to look at other broader immigration issues – do people support constitutional amendment to remove citizenship by birth to address the issue of anchor babies? If immigrants are caught with children born in the states what should be done? Deport both parents and children, deport only parents? If deporting both do children still get their citizenship or should it be scratched? How effective is a law like SB1070 in deterring people who risk rape, death, torture for substandard life in America? Given a hypothetical success of laws like SB 1070 – what off the job vacuum created in the menial labor farm, factory etc jobs that legal citizens refuse to take? What of companies who hire or rent to illegal immigrants because it's cheap and easy? How much at fault are they? How will we hold them accountable and punish them for aiding crime? Will SB 1070 deter these businesses from seeking and harboring illegal immigrants? Is the government federal, state or local doing enough to crack down on these businesses? Who do people believe is responsible for illegal immigration? Will signing full free trade of labor between USA, Canada and Mexico resolve any undocumented immigrant issues?


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

There is also a myth of the Latino illegal immigrant. Do you know which country has had the highest increase in illegal immigrants coming to the USA? That's right its us ' 133% increase in illegal Indian immigrants in USA compared to a measly rise of 28% Mexican. China comes next with a 21% increase.

If 1000 illegal immigrants came from Mexico and 10 illegal immigrants came from India in 2004
79% increase from Mexico vs 113% increase from India(In totallity there are 7.6 million illegal aliens from the American region vs 1.3 million from India, China, Pakistan
So in next year there will be 1790 illegal immigratns from Mexico, whereas there will be 23 from India
From what I learnt in Math class 1790 is greater than 23😉 no matter what the

https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ILL_PE_2005.pdf

quoting numbers from the article you posted, so you cant refute them😉
North America has 7.6 illegal aliens from Canada, Mexico , Central America and Caribean
Asia had 1.3 million
South America had 0.8 million
Europe had 0.5 million
Concentrating on Arizona
ARIZONAN PEOPLE STATS: Top Stats All Stats
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Age Dependency Ratio 66.5 [2nd of 51]
Demonym (name of state resident) Arizonan
Estimated number of Illegal Immigrants 283,000 [6th of 43]
Median Age 34.1 [47th of 51]
Percent of Foreign Population Born in Asia 12% [47th of 49]
Percent of Foreign Population Born in Europe 9.6% [43rd of 49]
Percent of Foreign Population Born in Mexico 66.3% [2nd of 49]
Percent of People 21 to 64 Years Old With a Disability 11.9 % [27th of 51]
Percent of People Who are 85 Years and Over 1.1 % [35th of 51]
Percent of People Who are Black or African American Alone 3 % [38th of 51]
Percent of People Who are Foreign Born 14.4 % [8th of 51]
Percent of People Who are White Alone 77.4 % [32nd of 51]
Percent of People Who are White Alone, Not Hispanic or Latino 60.9 % [43rd of 51]
Population 5,939,292 [17th of 56]
Population > Percent change, 2000-2005 15.8% [2nd of 52]
Population density 45.2 [36th of 50]
Sex Ratio 98.3 [12th of 51]
Total Black Population 184,805 [30th of 51]
Total Hispanic Population 1,711,429 [5th of 51]
Women (Per 1,000) Who Had a Birth in the Past 12 Months 65 [5th of 51]

As we are all well aware Hispanic, South Americans, Asians look very "foreign" as compared to Europeans
Given that background, which one of the two sounds more (reverse or otherwise) racist
If someone tells cops to concentrate on the larger number of "foreign" looking immigrants
or
People who (ignore the simple math and) think the profiling based upon "foreign" looking is just racial
Edited by chal_phek_mat - 15 years ago

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