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Manasi

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Posted: 15 years ago

DISCUSSION OF THE WEEK ' IMMATURE OR IRRESPONSIBLE ?

Hello and Hi to all my lovely friends here at the SGP forum! The last two weeks have been quite interesting & all of us are thinking of the same thing' HOW can Suhana behave like this?? First the food issue and now this doesn't she ever think of others? There have been many topics on similar lines so we thought we'll have a DOTW. So, let us all put forward our views in this topic

What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

These are just broad topics to aid discussions. Please feel free to add any point I may have missed. To a person who is not very surprised by Suhana's behavior, this discussion may seem to be already biased against Suhana trust me it's nothing like that. In fact, I'm sure we all would love to hear counter ' views.

So please continue all discussion on this topic here itself. Refrain from opening new topics like this. And please adhere to the IF CoC & the SGP section rules while posting.

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Angelic

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Awsomeeee post Manasi!! I am sure this is going to lead to an interesting discussion.

What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

-Suhana's behavior is not different than a person who is immature. And this immaturity in her causes her to be very irresponsible. I mean if you look at the past few episodes.. especially the drama over food.. you can tell that she didn't mean to hurt Rajini and Disha yet she did through her immarturity. Yet, when she found out that they both were really hurt by her behavior she actually went to apologize. So this shows that she is somewhat responsible for her actions yet her immaturity is at a higher place than her responsibility; explained by what she did with Disha and Rajni at the resturant. So I think that she has a lot of immaturity in her behavior.

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

I think this is a really good question. In terms of Disha and Rajni I think that they have all rights to be annoyed with Suhana. I think some where inside they believe that whatever Suhana did with them was on purpose. And this is not that case. I think they are not totally able to understand Suhana and her lifestyle. To then Suhana is just a rich, brat girl who does what ever she wants and doesn't care for anyones feelings. But we know that this is not the case. She does actually care for others feelings. But its just that she puts herself in that spot where others have no choice but to misundersand her. We have seen in the case of Meena and Dolly.. she acutally does understand feelings and does actually care for others. But its now time that she meets reality and understand the true world outside of her own fantasy where she is no longer a princess who gets what she wants all the time.

I think that everyone is justified by thinking that they should give Suhana some time.. but again that time won't do anything until they actually teach something to Suhana in that time. I mean like saying that you go to school and come back everyday without teacher actually teaching you anything. So that time is actually a waste. Thats exactally what is happeneing with Suhana. I think that both Rajini and Disha have taken up the responsibility to make Suhana realize what true world is.

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

Like i said in the answer to the first question... Suhana is just immature who doesn't think beyond herself. This can be considered selfish to come extent but again we know that she does have a "heart of gold". She helps others in need(ex: Meena and Dolly) so can't really call this selfishness (if this is a word LOL)..

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?

The hotel one for sure. That was completely her fault. And I was surprised by her behavior. But again its her immaturity. I am surprised that she still doesn't understand that what she did with Disha and Rajini at the hotel has really hurt them.

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

Patience I guess. Just like how Badima believes in patience. It will take time to change Suhana. She has been what she is for years and she can't just change in a few days or weeks. It may take time but she will change once she understands that how she views the world is wrong. And Ishaan does understand that.. I remember him saying that "it will take me some more time to completely undertsand you" in one of the episodes.

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Manasi_16

What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

Well poor girl has not had any one to guide her during her growing up years and her social circle hasnt left much of a positive influence on her as well so she doesnt know whats right and wrong and how her actions can hurt others , cause all people she has come up against before getting married have taken what she has thrown at them right from her father to her friends and even Sid to an extent so where has she evr been told u r wrong or that u have hurt me with yr action ......cause i think whenever she has been told she has realised it and made amends !!! I think Suhana doesnt consider these people barring badi ma and Ishaan ( a little bit ) as her own so she doesnt really seem to care much .....

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom

will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

Well to think from another angle Rajni and Disha had the chance of telling badi maa the truth then why did'nt they , first try to be mahaan and then regret it ....and go out on a teaching a lesson mission ...not fair !!!! Well its not going to turn Rajni ,Disha vs Suhana .....(i know that so i am not any one side cos i dont need to be .)

Everyone in the family Inder, Ilesh, Badi Ma, Rano...all keep trying to pacify Rajni

' Disha by saying that Suhana should be given time to settle down. How far is that

right? How long are Rajni ' Disha supposed to 'give time' to Suhana?

Well if some has lived their entire life a certain way ...u cant expect them to change within a few weeks but the person must be told they r wrong when they r .....But seriously if someone has lived 20+ yrs a certain way ...then u cant expect them to change 180 degress in a few weeks ......they definitely need to be given some more time ....

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough?

Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive

or selfish or what?

Wrong Upbringing ....rather no guiding force during her growing up years has lead to this and she hasnt had many experiences as well to make her realise whats right and wrong.....some people need to be told and dont pick up things on their own and she happens to be one of them .She is a mixture of all the qualities u mentioned ...cause at the moment she really doesnt really care abt the marriage or anything related to it ...and is just there to prove a point to a third party.A heart of gold will only work when it has feelings for the person in question and at the moment she doesnt have ne feelings for anyone except badi maa and may be somewhere Ishaan

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?

I think the hotel one ....but it was required for the story to move on and relations to be formed and strengthened ..........u need big things to sort out differences for ever ....

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

I think the family should just deal with it as they are cause Suhana has to feel it frm within for the real change to come abt ........forced change will not help !!! Ishaan is a sweetheart and really doesnt need to be told how to deal with Suhana .....i think he is one person who is and will be on Suhaana 's side come what may ......Jahaan Suhaana wahin Ishaan , he says his part but never leaves her side ....and thats the best part .....and this show will be really b his journey frm being a stranger for Suhaana, to being Suhaana's official husband , to being her guide ,to being suhaana's best buddy and confidant , and to ultimately being suhaana 's love .........I cud write more but then i'd give quite a bit away which is not fair !!!!

Thankyou for this Lovely Discussion Topic .Will look forward to other responses as well!!!

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Sheema

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Posted: 15 years ago

first of all how many marks does each questions carry, are all of these qusetions compulsory? how long would the this exam is for!!!!!What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

Suhana is a fairly complexed character "Koi Batlaiy Kai Batlain Kiya". She might have behavioural problems, early history of this complexed patient oops sorry person suggests that the person couldnot mature properly and her mental growth was some what slow , physically and morally she is beautiful inside out , its just her behaviour did not get a chance to flourish as she lacked a female influence of her mother in her life. The patient oops sorry Suhana needs lot of TLC ( tender loving care) also a holistic approach towards building a balanced personality is highly recomended. She can not see beyond her nose, needs a lot of time to broaden her vission of real world.

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom

will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?
Yes, teaching and learning are very important, sometimes when the Ghee can not taken out from the straight finger one has to bend the finger. Both the ladies were humiliated pretty badly so they are like ZAKHMI SHEERNEES, so Suhana should guard herself and hide behind Badi Maa. I would Support Rajni and Disha to SUPPORT SUHANA as she is calling out unknowingly " "HELP ME TO HELP MYSELF". This girl needs a side kick from some body like R and D, as the others gets into the trap of her KILLer smile. But please it has to done gently as we love Suhana very much, we dont want her to CHANGE her personality, just learn the basic TARIQA to live around family,.

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough?

Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive

or selfish or what?

Yes but its not enough, she is just not being tunned properly, never lived around family and lived in a bubble wrapped world, so with time she will be a beautiful butterfly, I am pretty sure that once she realizes the values of life she will be better then Rajni, Disha and even Badi Maa as her heart is pure and clean, she does not hold any ill feelings and ready to accept her mistakes , so it be a magical transformation.

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?

Most definetly it was the hotel one, as a lot was on stake, Rajni and Disha, s self respect and safety, what if they didnt had any money, what if something bad would have happened on the road. The scar of the humiliation would stay with both of them for a long time.( hopefully they will forgive her eventually, the question Suhana realize that it was worst then the food incident and the severity of it.)

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

1. Patients and understaning the context of the situation.
2. TLC , tender loving care.
3. Timing, tell her about her mistake at the right time as if you would leave it for long she would forget what she did, so timing is very impotance.
And last but not the least , Badi Maa , Rano, Dadi and Radha Bua should give her lot of motherly love which she crave for and she is more comfortable with the eldery,s as look up to them. So all the ladies should take this huge responsibilty because the end result would be an asset to the kYSHAP family.
Ishaan is doing just fine, just be her FRIEND, her true friend , be there for her in every step, when she is bad and when she is good, built a relationship of trust, where Suhana can go back to him and ONLY to him when things goes wrong as she should be able to TRUST Ishaan to be ALWAYS there for her , no matter what and that would be the first and most important step towrads LOVE, sorry LUB.
I hope I have got at least 33% passing marks!!!!

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Manasi

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DISCUSSION OF THE WEEK ' IMMATURE OR IRRESPONSIBLE ?

What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?
Personally I am pretty annoyed with Suhana. She behaved not just immaturely, also irresponsibly. I don't have words to describe my thoughts...if someone had done this to me, I would have killed that person😡

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?
If it really turns out so bad...that one has to choose between Rajni - Disha & Suhana...sorry to say, but I will support Rajni - Disha. Its just not done...the way Suhana behaved...and these two are absolutely justified in whatever methid they take to make Suhana understand!

I agree that Suhana comes from a very different background and DOES need time to settle down. But how much time?? I feel that Badi Ma & rano go out of their way too much to make things easy for Suhana. What they don't realise that unless they explain to Rajni-Disha that they want Ishaan to be happy & Ishaan's happiness depends on Suhana's..till that they will create a unfavourable atmosphere at home. From the POV of Rajni-Disha, Shana just gets away with everything, while they are held responsible. To give credit to Suhana, she did try to tell badi Ma that she was responsible for coming late n not the other 2, but Badi Ma didn't even let her talk...that's so unfair on them. They got scolded for no fault.

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

She is all the above & more...immature, insensitive, selfish, headstrong etc. I know many of you will find me very harsh, but I can't tolerate such ppl. I have neither the sympathy, nor the patience to change them. Accordingly to me, it is their responsibility to change themselves, not of others to improve them! Suhana makes no attempt to change. She herself can't even boil water, but shouts saying no one in the house can make a decent coffee...I mean, what the hell???? If you have so many problems, stir urself & make it for urself na. Her heart of gold won't take her much far, unless she changes her attitude & behaviour.

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?
The hotel one is worse. In the previous one, at least whatever happened, happened at home. Rajni-Disha were not alone. but at the hotel they faced humiliations at the hands of the waiters, all the people present also were staring at them, then they were standing on the road. And to add to all this, they knew they would get into trouble once they reached home!!!

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

I think Badi ma needs to assert herself with Suhana. Because, they feel Suhana will leave Ishaan & go, they are so lenient with Suhana. But others' don't know this...so they either have to tell Rajni-Disha the truth of SuShaan's relationship, or they have to make things clear to Suhana. I am sure, if Rajni-Disha know the truth, they will deal better with Suhana & not mnd her so much. Ishaan is perfect in his dealing with his 'official wife'😆

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What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

I think she's just immature and the irresponsibility come from the immaturity. The girl has her heart in the right place but I don't think she realizes that at times, she's hurting others. It's without a doubt not on purpose. I think when she went to the disco leaving Rajni and Disha alone, she thought they would just enjoy some alone time and "gossip". She didn't realize they would wait for her and not eat and won't have enough money to pay the bill. I think she forgot about them while having fun.

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

I don't blame them for getting mad at Suhana. What Suhana did was wrong but they also have to realize she didn't do it on purpose. Instead of getting "revenge", I think like Inder suggested, they need to nicely explain to her what she did was wrong. We have seen before, when Dadiji pointed out to her that she hurt Disha and Rajni after the food incident, she quickly understood and went to apologize. The girl really has her heart in the right place but in her own words, is a bit of a tubelight.

Everyone in the family Inder, Ilesh, Badi Ma, Rano...all keep trying to pacify Rajni' Disha by saying that Suhana should be given time to settle down. How far is that right? How long are Rajni ' Disha supposed to 'give time' to Suhana?
They are right. She does need time. She grew up in an environment, where nobody was there to tell her what is wrong and what is right. In a place where she got everything she wanted. Now she lives in a totally different environment. She needs time to adapt to it and understand it. In the show, she is supposed to be married for maybe for 2 to 3 months, not more. That's not enough time to completely change. I think everyone needs to have patience. And she is changing. She is starting to realize what a family is and she understands they all love her and she's enjoying her time with them and making an effort to get along with them and caring for them. With more time, she'll learn.

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

I don't think she's insensitive or selfish. When Panna was fighting with Badi-ma, Suhana had tears in her eyes and she could understand the pain. If she was insensitive or selfish, she would have forgotten about the incident and went to sleep but she couldn't get it off her mind and she was the only one who went to Badi-ma afterwards because she knew Badi-Ma was hurting from inside. Same thing with Meena. When she cut her finger, Suhana was very concerned. I think she's just immature and always had things her way so that's why the tantrums.

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?
Def. the hotel one. The food one was not really her fault. How is she supposed to know they were cooking for her? It's not like she told them to cook for her and than rejected the food.

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan

Just have patience. I think she needs to be explained to lovingly and she would understand.

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shonia09

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Posted: 15 years ago

Hey,

Lovely topic! Let me get started...😛

What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?
Suhana has a got a lot of growing up to do. Her innocence can only last so long...Her character and behaviour isnt completely unbelievable. People like that do exist! And given her personality and background whatever she did on the night was believable although maybe not justifiable. A lot of the times I can really see Suhanas side of things, but in this situation I was like squeezing my eyes shut and covering my ears to stop the worst from happening. Alas it failed!😲

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

Yes Rajni & Disha are very much justified to teach Suhana a lesson. I think its hard to teach Suhana a lesson. By just snapping at her wont do. They really need to plan something devious to get thru to her! In this situation I would support these 2.
You know when my husband was watching the episode where dinner was being served he kept asking me "why dont they just eat!!" I guess he didnt understand where they were coming from. 😛 They were way too hopeful on Suhana than she deserved.

Everyone in the family Inder, Ilesh, Badi Ma, Rano...all keep trying to pacify Rajni' Disha by saying that Suhana should be given time to settle down. How far is that right? How long are Rajni ' Disha supposed to 'give time' to Suhana?
Rajni & Disha also share the same rights as Suhana in the house. There shouldnt be favouritism. This all might sound like the right and ideal houseld, but unfortunately reality is diff. There are Although Suhana is not such a new "bahu" anymore and is quite settled by now. She has been spoilt enough and needs to be woken up from her la la land. It doesnt help having such a soft and easy going husband like Ishan either. Dont get me wrong, Ishan is a wonderful guy and hes trying to express his feelings and sometimes objections towards Suhana's actions, however he needs to be a little firmer. But that would conflict with his character, alas...😳

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

She might have her heart in the right place but how can she be so completely unaware of the time. Its not like she was under the influence of alcohol that she lost track of time. Plus it was supposed to be her way of apologising to the girls. I think she is a combination of immaturity, insesitivity & selfishness, but there is always room to improve. The fact that she cant read peoples facial expressions is a concern too...🤔

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?
Definitely the hotel one. It was one disaster to another....especially knowing that was an apology dinner for the food incident. 😲

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

Well the family first needs to find out the whole story..and the husbands of Disha & Rajni need to be a lot more supportive. But it will take time. As mentioned earlier Ishan needs to express himself more and be firm in situations like this. All the reactions from all the characters have been well presented and believable. I wonder how Radha bua would take to this one she finds out everything.🤔

Shonia

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Excellent questions for the week Manasi and yes we could post out views instead of relating each one to multiple threads as u beautifully incorporated all of them into this one.... read all u guyz views and it was damn exciting to meet such mature minds in our Forum....😛

What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

Suhana is immature and she lives in her own world...She is clueless to observe and read the facial expressions..but when a hurt is known she apologises and does not even pause to think ...'Should i? ' ...She is very kind-hearted, innocent and bubbly, but all these traits r often misunderstood to her being selfish or arrogant or headstrong which she is not at all.Her insensitiveness and her cold reaction often put her image into committing most of the blunders.

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

Yes. definitely..I always wanted a one-to-one situation.👍🏼.no interference of any other family member..... the hurt can only be healed by the person who gave it and will be healed only if that person applied the balm to the wound..... so this issue is totally and totally between the 3 bahus and they need to handle it with utmost dignity thru their acts.

My support will be for Rajni-Disha aiming for response from Suhana also my support will be for Suhana reacting to their hurt and realising her mistake..😳.

Except Badi Maa,Ishaan and Radha Bua.... no one knows the actual Suhana.... for that matter even Radha bua does not know Suhana as fine as Badi maa does.... Badi maa has rightly understood that the only flaw in Suhana's life has been absence of motherhood and the sense of the ways of living in a parivaar.... so her genuine sense of giving her time does not mean keep forgiving her mistakes.... she clearly specified if mistake done without awareness then it is not a mistake... again time given is not to only forgive and forego the mistakes but to instill in suhana her mistakes and for the realisation to creep in.... so i guess for me she deserves truly that to evoke her senses.

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

How many of the members of Kashyap parivaar have truly understood Suhana as she is? as of now only Badi maa , Dada dadi and Ishaan have seen her worse as well as her best. She has the rarest ability to forget the issues which is so rare.... we keep brooding over the issues.... she has been a kind soul to meena, dolly didi and her heart of gold has been so aptly displayed in the right context.... she never intentionally hurts anyone and never repeats her mistakes...

Doesn't her heart of gold glitter more than the grey traits in her?

Is immaturity trait in her that impossible that one cannot put things into her senses with care and affection?

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?

Obviously the hotel one.... the food one happened within the four walls of the Kashyap parivaar.... but the hotel one dragged her immaturity issue to the mockery expressions of the hotel guyz and dark lanes of Delhi 6.😭

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

Rajni -Disha have this option..... am sure they will hammer her the right way ....Badi maa, Dada-Dadi can give her back what she missed and deserves the most..... The solutions to this can only be thru love and patience.... a cane can never tame a child.... a child will just end up challenging a cane.... but flush in good thoughts at right time, the thoughts and values will never be erased.... it will blossom as love in the hearts of millions...

.Ishaan also just needs to monitor her acts and invoke her good soul .!

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isra2811

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What are your reaction/your opinion on Suhana's behavior?

Suhana has a good nature and good person and a has a gold of hear. But her problem is she lives in her own world, immature at times and doesnt have an idea what will others think because the way she lived before and now. The lifestyle of both the families is completely different whereas in Suhaana's sasural its kinda and Suhaana is very modern very immature doesnt know what world is. But at times she is very good and her heart melts when something emotional happens. Its only a matter of time to understand Ishaan's family.

Do you feel Rajni ' Disha are justified if they decide to teach Suhana a lesson? Whom will you support in case it turns out to be Rajni, Disha VS Suhana?

Yeah, very much.. I am with Rajni and Disha. They should teach Suhana a lesson that how to deal with a family and you should care about others. Even i support Suhana to make her understand her mistakes. There shouldnt be any interference from the family side. rajni and Disha should make her undertsand.

They shouldnt give her more time. Instead they have to correct her mistakes by telling her. Everyone says in Ishaans family that only things which is missing in her life was her mother and thats the reason of her lifestyle.

Suhana has her heart in the right place no one can deny that. But is that enough? Her 'heart of gold' seems to overrule all her senses. Is she immature or insensitive or selfish or what?

She is very very immature and she needs to change herself a lot

In your opinion, which incident is worse - the food one or the hotel one?

The hotel was far more worse

Lastly, how should the family deal with this? And especially, how should Ishaan deal with this?

The solutions to this can only be thru love and patience specially from Ishaan and his familys side