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Posted: 15 years ago
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I saw the new promo where the undha says

Jyoti tumhe mujhe maf karnahi hoga apne liye nehi toh humare bacche ke khatir????????!

What a shameless cow faced manipulating scoundrel he is! What 'humara baccha' when he thought Jyoti was sleeping with other men it didn't bother him once what happens if the child turns out to be his.

?..ha..ha?ha..what a rat face.

He say tumhe mujhe maf kar na hi hoga??..

???..kiyu besharam undhe?kya khamba ukhar lenge aap,!!!

Maine sunhat ha insane ki akhho mein sharam hoti hai iski toh akhoen ki batti ke saat saat sharam ki bhi fuse udh gayi???.yaar. .....

????..usne apni gunah sorry gulti manli toh oss jaise loser ke pass wapas jana hi parega kiyo ke??. Ek chutki bhar gulti ka ehsas tum kya jano viewers?..!!!! yeh hum mardo ka janam sidh adhikar hai, society ka rule hai, aur CV's ka aap aurto ko door mat bananeka marjhi hai???????🤢🤢🤢

Edited by Dhanush071 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dhanush071

The show is endorsing the fact that no matter what a man does in our society to rack a women's life he always deserves a second chance. Because it is more than enough for the man if he only realise that he is the guilty party (oh sorry ???..I should say he made a mistake, because even if a man does most outrageous things which far above than what crime defines it is considered a mistake once he has some realisation.

Ek chutki bhar gulti ka ehsas tum kya jano viewers?..!!!! yeh hum mardo ka janam sidh adhikar hai, society ka rule hai, aur CV's ka aap aurto ko door mat bananeka marjhi hai. šŸ˜†

Agar ek bar hum mard man lay humne paap nehi sirf gali ki hai toh log kehte hain

Oh poor men????..he has changed?..now he should get loved, idealised and worship like bhagwan. This type of thinking is quite common even the CV's couldn't think differently from them. A complete sham to what the show is rooting for 'women empowerment'.!!!! sick!!!

It's such a pity that even the CV's who dared to bring this bold subject endorsing the fact that their thinking is too pathetic to a point that a man have the birth right to have his way ruining a women's life but can always be forgiven by one single realisation. And the woman in this case is nothing more then full fledge tear dropping DOOR MAT. The CV has made clear their point by making Shusma going back to Brij who has every single flaws in his character that is imaginable (he even made his women go to other man) but his single realisation was enough to get his doormat back?ohom I mean lady back.

If the CV is opposing women having different men in lives why are they trying depict this issue.

I believed the show was about women empowerment as it was bringing up issues e.g. how a woman should stand up for her self (not allowing anyone walk all over her like a door mat) protecting her self respect and should have the same respect she gives others. Sadly the CV's are now contradicting by reuniting Jyoti and Pankaj (who was even a conniving little rat enough to say he did not sleep with Jyoti for two years when it suited him). One (Pankaj the undha lecturer who should have known better for education and so called ehsas) does not have to be an Einstein to figure out that making such statement will not only assassin Jyoti's character and her self respect but it will also label her child as illegitimate making sure both mother and child get ultimate humiliation in every step of their lives by our society and his pathetic family. I feel a man will have to be a total 'pimp' to play the character assignation card especially when he knows he is lying to get what wants. It is quite clear what happens to women and men when they get defamed in the society. While women hardly ever escapes her defamation living in the society (getting taunts, name calling, and every possible way of degrading her ego and self respect), men can easily turn a new leaf in their lives quite easily. The example was already given in the show.

Where???

Deepu??..!!! does anyone remember what was deepu like in his early days????enjoying gambling, drinking, and trapping rich business tycoons daughter and all but now look at him. He can go on to advice others about family reputation, and defamation.

Now imagine a girl, lets say lets say Jyoti did all these outrageous things (which is quite impossible for her character) and then mend her ways to our social standards. Do you think she will be accepted as Deepu a man got accepted? I don't think so.

Our mentality for women is set up. Even in the most urban state of our country, women more than often hear 'sau chohe marke billi hajj ko chali' when they are trying turn a new leaf on their life.

So the character assassination isn't just a character assignation for a woman in our society as it becomes a curse which follows her every single day of her life for the rest of her life whether she deserves or not.

Do I think a women should forgive a man when he does that to her????????? Absolutely not even when???..!!!!

Pankaj had every rights to move on in his life if he wasn't happy with jyoti but making false allegation like he didn't sleep with her for two years, and she became pregnant by other man was just too rat like. he knew that it wasn't a fact and there is every possible chance that the child could be his even Jyoti was cheating on him.

Why didn't the undha insist for a DNA test before he labelled Jyoti's child as bustard. Don't tell me that highly educated undha didn't hear about this test.

Because even the child was his own flesh and blood he wouldn't accept it as its mother cheated on him??so he has the right to disowned the baby and call it bustard. But now he realise his wife hasn't slept with any other man rather than him his fatherhood suddenly rose up. Isn't that convenient.

I feel Pankaj deserves to live with Nelaam at least this Janam to repent what he has done to his child and its mother.

I would get really mad at the CV if they bring Jyoti and Pankaj together. It is an absolute no no for the message they are trying to spread. If this CV idiots can't handle issue with fairness and dignity they should refrain bring up such content and stick to rona dhona ekta kapoor types serials.


According to me this is the best thread ever in Jyoti forum. Very well written . you have written everything what i want to say .....
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šŸ‘ Still when a women thinks for second marriage they are treated as characterless, After a broken marriage if she even smile then also people starts questioning her character.. still Young women , girls feel insecure going alone some where , some point of time we all women have felt that insecurity . Eve teasing , rape, dowry everything exist . Even in a family women are still doormat. Our Country is liberated but what about us the Women?

Edited by PiaSengupta2010 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: PiaSengupta2010


According to me this is the best thread ever in Jyoti forum. Very well written . you have written everything what i want to say .....
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šŸ‘ Still when a women thinks for second marriage they are treated as characterless, After a broken marriage if she even smile then also people starts questioning her character.. still Young women , girls feel insecure going alone some where , some point of time we all women have felt that insecurity . Eve teasing , rape, dowry everything exist . Even in a family women are still doormat. Our Country is liberated but what about us the Women?



The worst scenario is that a woman has to surrender herself before a man to back her up, else everyone else thinks she is available and tries to have his hand on her. An insecure family hence marries her off to anyone possible. But jumping from one man to another is no solution.

Jyoti must try to be independent and not prove herself a coward by taking a support of a man, be it Kabir or Pankaj, to remain safe

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Dhanush

This is something I've wondered about Jyoti for the longest time - what exactly would any guy see in her? I'm a guy, and even when she was unmarried, I found little to admire about her, since she was such a push-over. For me, the most attractive & respectable character in that family was Sudha, aside from the times she tried distancing herself from Uday in order to appease Jyoti.

Just from a character standpoint, look @ Jyoti - her credo seems to be the 'neeche kaTo, upar chaTo.' She did everything possible to suck up to Bhairavi during her marriage, including lambaste Sudha for accepting Uday's engagement offer, browbeat Uday into returning to the home after he had walked out w/ Sudha, and that too @ Bhairavi's request, she forced Deepu to accept her staying away from his marriage so that Sudha could attend (why?)... I'm not all that sorry that Poonam has completely turned on her - I would too, if I was a woman and somebody made a circus out of my marriage. She is similarly a complete doormat for Padma - can't tell her no even once - even for ridiculous requests like finding Deepu a job, when she can't find one for herself. (Incidentally, if Kabir can give Brij a desk job in his company, why not her?) I, for one, had I been in her place, would have called her masi instead of ma the day I found out who she really was. Oh, and when I walked out the first time, I'd have taken Sudha w/ me, and split the family, leaving KK/Padma's family there.

In terms of women doing the right things in terms of respect & interests of their family, Sushma had it down perfect - she was giving away her baby to a couple that couldn't have one and would care for it, and Jyoti sabotaged it w/ the stupidest of reasons - making it look like adopting out one's baby is a big sin. WTF? And Kabir wasn't the one who forced Sushma to see Brij - Jyoti was. Part of the blame is Sushma's as well - she should have seen Brij, and gone back to Jyoti and told her, 'You asked me to see him, and I saw him. Well, I wish him well, but I'm going ahead w/ my plans. No more meetings'. After all, Brij's original request to Kabir was just one more meeting w/ Sushma, and he got it. That's where it should have ended.

So for all the bhashans that Jyoti gives, she's hardly one who either enhances the respect of women, nor is just towards people: she just bullies those younger than her or those who love her, and grovels b4 those older than her or those who hate her. Hardly something I find remotely appealing in a woman.

In terms of appearance, she's okay, but her syrupy appearance, blended w/ that above personality quirk, make her positively repulsive. I just don't see what Kabir saw in her. If I was in his place and I saw her pushing me away, I'd remain my cheery self, but keep my distance, and just entertain the girls in her dance troupe.

Originally posted by: Dhanush071

So you think he got him self shot also to impress Jyoti'''.wow, I haven't known (not even heard of) anyone who could literally give their life to make an impression. And look who is trying to impress an average looking, middle class, divorced and heavily pregnant women who don't even love him. Lol'''.you've got some idea about us men.

Let me tell you if a men had all luxuries money can buy, on top of that decent appearance, highly regarded family background, education and friends who genuinely loves him and care for him, he wouldn't ''..sorry will not go on to give his life to impress some parivaar obsessed (couldn't say self obsessed) egoistic, highly contradicting (because Jyoti hardly ever practices what she advise others) multi purpose doormat if he genuinely didn't believe in that cause and was true follower of his set ethics. Jyoti, gives lambha chaurah vashan about women respect and right in her family but when it came to raising her own when CM and her own CM padma was traumatising her. Unlike Jyoti, kabir atleast practices what he believes in.


Edited by Vrisha - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Are well, Vrisha.....
Now you're rating Jyoti on a meter scale yaar
This sounds really funny but ...
I personally don't like it coz I've myself seen much in life like Jyoti
(minus a broken marriage, a loser ex-husband and a pregnancy, no I don't have them in my life yet....šŸ˜†)

My close and distant relatives rated and still rate me on meter scales, comparing me with each and every single girl in our community as a product that needs to get displayed on sale.
And constantly showing their real (or fake) concerns about me to settle down soon to escape the big bad world.

But a woman has more to do than just be someone's wife as I think. And I really appreciate and admire Jyoti for trying to be such a girl and would like to become a strong girl like her. And it is the prime reason why I'd not like her to marry Kabir or even return to Pankaj NOW. The former because Marriage should be a result of love not necessity and latter because right now Pankaj is concerned only about his child not Jyoti.

Coming to why she persuaded Sushma to return to Brij then, she knows that Sushma is quite young not as old and mature and qualified as she is as well as for the fact that she has a mahaan kinda nature and wanted to forgive a dying man hence she found a way so that Sushi's child wouldn't have to be separated from her and would still have a legitimate identity and a father's name (and no, she didn't think of Brij as an ideal husband who can be with Sushma for eternity, coz he'll die soon na!!)
It was for Sushma's good not Brij's .....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I was opposed to Jyoti's marrying @ the start of the serial, b'cos I thought she could be successful on her own in her line of work. I only started thinking marriage was a good option for her when she was being ill treated by Padma & Dadi, & conned by Deepu. Even then, I didn't think either Brij nor Pankaj were right for her (Jyoti had this tendency of being helpful, whereas Pankaj always interpreted it as a sign of condescention - like in the Mumbai restaurant when the waiter gave Jyoti the bill, and Pankaj exploded) Had Jyoti had her own mom, instead of Padma, she could have taken care of the house forever, and never needed to marry. Of course, Dadi would have breathed down her neck.

I agree that most women can do better than marry, and I even think marriage is not for everybody - not in real life. And in this serial, it's certainly not for quite a few girls - Jyoti, Poonam, Sushma, Neelam, Padma (who was forced to marry KK), Bhairavi. In fact, in this serial, the only one who IMO did it the right way was Sudha - she graduated, despite all the load of housework, then she got a job in a company so that she could at least support herself, and not be a financial drain on Jyoti, and after a while, when Uday proposed to her, she married.

In Jyoti's case, had she not been pregnant, I'd not have suggested that she marry @ all (although in her case, she seems incapable of being single - when Brij married Sushma, she'd get flashbacks of Brij, then after Pankaj divorced her, she kept getting flashbacks of Pankaj, and only now is she starting to get flashbacks of Kabir.) But she's going to bring in a baby, and a single parent situation is not good for it. Here, Jyoti would have done well to listen to Kalpana and have an abortion - now, this baby is going to be a perpetual link to Pankaj. But had she not been pregnant, she'd not have been pressurized to marry, or do anything of the sort.
Edited by Vrisha - 15 years ago
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y d hell should jyoti marry him/give his kid.he was the one who said that kid is not his its brijs kid.doesnt he have shame to ask 4 that kid and he is saying that he is father of that kid,the guy who cant believe his own wife and believe others people saying abt his wife kya pata kal koi aur kahega ki woh tumhara nahi brij ka kid hain then he will again harass jyoti and call her badchalan and throw her out of home.

he is asking jyoti to come back to get rid of neelam coz neelam showed him his place vuska ego burst huva isliye bahana bana raha hain aur vaise jyoti toh apna muh kolti hin nahi thi san kuch bardash karti hain and pankaj want a girl as his wife who bear all d harassment.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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y d hell should jyoti marry him/give his kid.he was the one who said that kid is not his its brijs kid.doesnt he have shame to ask 4 that kid and he is saying that he is father of that kid,the guy who cant believe his own wife and believe others people saying abt his wife kya pata kal koi aur kahega ki woh tumhara nahi brij ka kid hain then he will again harass jyoti and call her badchalan and throw her out of home.

he is asking jyoti to come back to get rid of neelam coz neelam showed him his place vuska ego burst huva isliye bahana bana raha hain aur vaise jyoti toh apna muh kolti hin nahi thi san kuch bardash karti hain and pankaj want a girl as his wife who bear all d harassment.[/QUOTE]
so true!!!! I don't know wether his more of a shamless cow or a coward who is more concerned about saving his ever inflating ego!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢Rotten chuha sala!!!😔😔😔
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: PiaSengupta2010


According to me this is the best thread ever in Jyoti forum. Very well written . you have written everything what i want to say .....
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šŸ‘ Still when a women thinks for second marriage they are treated as characterless, After a broken marriage if she even smile then also people starts questioning her character.. still Young women , girls feel insecure going alone some where , some point of time we all women have felt that insecurity . Eve teasing , rape, dowry everything exist . Even in a family women are still doormat. Our Country is liberated but what about us the Women?

Thanks for your appreciating kind words…pia………..I am touched!!!ā˜ŗļø

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