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Posted: 15 years ago
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The show is endorsing the fact that no matter what a man does in our society to rack a women's life he always deserves a second chance. Because it is more than enough for the man if he only realise that he is the guilty party (oh sorry ???..I should say he made a mistake, because even if a man does most outrageous things which far above than what crime defines it is considered a mistake once he has some realisation.

Ek chutki bhar gulti ka ehsas tum kya jano viewers?..!!!! yeh hum mardo ka janam sidh adhikar hai, society ka rule hai, aur CV's ka aap aurto ko door mat bananeka marjhi hai. 😆😆😆😆😆

Agar ek bar hum mard man lay humne paap nehi sirf gali ki hai toh log kehte hain

Oh poor men????..he has changed?..now he should get loved, idealised and worship like bhagwan. This type of thinking is quite common even the CV's couldn't think differently from them. A complete sham to what the show is rooting for 'women empowerment'.!!!! sick!!!

It's such a pity that even the CV's who dared to bring this bold subject endorsing the fact that their thinking is too pathetic to a point that a man have the birth right to have his way ruining a women's life but can always be forgiven by one single realisation. And the woman in this case is nothing more then full fledge tear dropping DOOR MAT. The CV has made clear their point by making Shusma going back to Brij who has every single flaws in his character that is imaginable (he even made his women go to other man) but his single realisation was enough to get his doormat back?ohom I mean lady back.

If the CV is opposing women having different men in lives why are they trying depict this issue.

I believed the show was about women empowerment as it was bringing up issues e.g. how a woman should stand up for her self (not allowing anyone walk all over her like a door mat) protecting her self respect and should have the same respect she gives others. Sadly the CV's are now contradicting by reuniting Jyoti and Pankaj (who was even a conniving little rat enough to say he did not sleep with Jyoti for two years when it suited him). One (Pankaj the undha lecturer who should have known better for education and so called ehsas) does not have to be an Einstein to figure out that making such statement will not only assassin Jyoti's character and her self respect but it will also label her child as illegitimate making sure both mother and child get ultimate humiliation in every step of their lives by our society and his pathetic family. I feel a man will have to be a total 'pimp' to play the character assignation card especially when he knows he is lying to get what wants. It is quite clear what happens to women and men when they get defamed in the society. While women hardly ever escapes her defamation living in the society (getting taunts, name calling, and every possible way of degrading her ego and self respect), men can easily turn a new leaf in their lives quite easily. The example was already given in the show.

Where???

Deepu??..!!! does anyone remember what was deepu like in his early days????enjoying gambling, drinking, and trapping rich business tycoons daughter and all but now look at him. He can go on to advice others about family reputation, and defamation.

Now imagine a girl, lets say lets say Jyoti did all these outrageous things (which is quite impossible for her character) and then mend her ways to our social standards. Do you think she will be accepted as Deepu a man got accepted? I don't think so.

Our mentality for women is set up. Even in the most urban state of our country, women more than often hear 'sau chohe marke billi hajj ko chali' when they are trying turn a new leaf on their life.

So the character assassination isn't just a character assignation for a woman in our society as it becomes a curse which follows her every single day of her life for the rest of her life whether she deserves or not.

Do I think a women should forgive a man when he does that to her????????? Absolutely not even when???..!!!!

Pankaj had every rights to move on in his life if he wasn't happy with jyoti but making false allegation like he didn't sleep with her for two years, and she became pregnant by other man was just too rat like. he knew that it wasn't a fact and there is every possible chance that the child could be his even Jyoti was cheating on him.

Why didn't the undha insist for a DNA test before he labelled Jyoti's child as bustard. Don't tell me that highly educated undha didn't hear about this test.

Because even the child was his own flesh and blood he wouldn't accept it as its mother cheated on him??so he has the right to disowned the baby and call it bustard. But now he realise his wife hasn't slept with any other man rather than him his fatherhood suddenly rose up. Isn't that convenient.

I feel Pankaj deserves to live with Nelaam at least this Janam to repent what he has done to his child and its mother.

I would get really mad at the CV if they bring Jyoti and Pankaj together. It is an absolute no no for the message they are trying to spread. If this CV idiots can't handle issue with fairness and dignity they should refrain bring up such content and stick to rona dhona ekta kapoor types serials.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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That's the biggest problem I have w/ Pankaj (and CM) - them damaging her reputation. As a result, Jyoti went from pillar to post for interviews for a job similar to the one Sudha had, and kept being turned down not due to qualifications, but b'cos she supposedly slept around. IMO, her biggest mistake was not to abort that pyaar ka nishani. Since the pyaar ain't there, why keep the nishani?

If Pankaj wants Jyoti back, then b4 he even meets her, he needs to undo this, regardless of whether Jyoti ultimately accepts him or not. Like I said yesterday in the poll thread on what should Jyoti do now, I said that the most Pankaj should have, if that, is that Jyoti forgives him to the extent that she allows him to have her baby and give it his name, but that she herself doesn't return to him, but marries Kabir instead. Maybe it's a good idea for Jyoti to wait until she has that baby, and then marry Kabir after that.

P.S. So what if they make, nay blackmail, Sushma into re-marrying Brij? They at least refused to do a kanyadaan, and that more than makes up for everything else they've done to Sushma - from making her forgive Brij's ill-treatment of her, making her go back on her adoption plans, forgetting her schooling again or plans for a job. They can probably send Jyoti back to Pankaj in exchange for a shayar from both him and CM.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Dhanush very well written.I totally agree with you.
Coming to this serial I dont want Jyoti to forgive Pankaj and go back to him at any cost.The guy accused her of being characterless and humiliated her to the core.How can he even think she will forgive her.And on top of that he got married again so soon.I prefer jyoti to remain single and bring up her child on her own without anyone's support.
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very well written and 100% agreed wid...and this is a prob wid almost all shows...whatever the guy does is all water under the bridge wid just one petty "sorry"..and the woman has to give sum sort of agnipareeksha every fricking time...and the stupid part is tht all these shows are abt women empowerment bt end up promoting regressive thoughts and practices..
sushma going back to brij was the biggest joke in the show..tht guy pimped his wife off...and he is forgiven..and now the path being paved for tht blind loser of a husband DEMANDING his ex-wife to forget everything for the sake of the child tht he himself refused to accept a couple months back..what are these people wanting to show???
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dhanush071

The show is endorsing the fact that no matter what a man does in our society to rack a women's life he always deserves a second chance. Because it is more than enough for the man if he only realise that he is the guilty party (oh sorry ???..I should say he made a mistake, because even if a man does most outrageous things which far above than what crime defines it is considered a mistake once he has some realisation.

Ek chutki bhar gulti ka ehsas tum kya jano viewers?..!!!! yeh hum mardo ka janam sidh adhikar hai, society ka rule hai, aur CV's ka aap aurto ko door mat bananeka marjhi hai. 😆😆😆😆😆

Agar ek bar hum mard man lay humne paap nehi sirf gali ki hai toh log kehte hain

Oh poor men????..he has changed?..now he should get loved, idealised and worship like bhagwan. This type of thinking is quite common even the CV's couldn't think differently from them. A complete sham to what the show is rooting for 'women empowerment'.!!!! sick!!!

It's such a pity that even the CV's who dared to bring this bold subject endorsing the fact that their thinking is too pathetic to a point that a man have the birth right to have his way ruining a women's life but can always be forgiven by one single realisation. And the woman in this case is nothing more then full fledge tear dropping DOOR MAT. The CV has made clear their point by making Shusma going back to Brij who has every single flaws in his character that is imaginable (he even made his women go to other man) but his single realisation was enough to get his doormat back?ohom I mean lady back.

If the CV is opposing women having different men in lives why are they trying depict this issue.

I believed the show was about women empowerment as it was bringing up issues e.g. how a woman should stand up for her self (not allowing anyone walk all over her like a door mat) protecting her self respect and should have the same respect she gives others. Sadly the CV's are now contradicting by reuniting Jyoti and Pankaj (who was even a conniving little rat enough to say he did not sleep with Jyoti for two years when it suited him). One (Pankaj the undha lecturer who should have known better for education and so called ehsas) does not have to be an Einstein to figure out that making such statement will not only assassin Jyoti's character and her self respect but it will also label her child as illegitimate making sure both mother and child get ultimate humiliation in every step of their lives by our society and his pathetic family. I feel a man will have to be a total 'pimp' to play the character assignation card especially when he knows he is lying to get what wants. It is quite clear what happens to women and men when they get defamed in the society. While women hardly ever escapes her defamation living in the society (getting taunts, name calling, and every possible way of degrading her ego and self respect), men can easily turn a new leaf in their lives quite easily. The example was already given in the show.

Where???

Deepu??..!!! does anyone remember what was deepu like in his early days????enjoying gambling, drinking, and trapping rich business tycoons daughter and all but now look at him. He can go on to advice others about family reputation, and defamation.

Now imagine a girl, lets say lets say Jyoti did all these outrageous things (which is quite impossible for her character) and then mend her ways to our social standards. Do you think she will be accepted as Deepu a man got accepted? I don't think so.

Our mentality for women is set up. Even in the most urban state of our country, women more than often hear 'sau chohe marke billi hajj ko chali' when they are trying turn a new leaf on their life.

So the character assassination isn't just a character assignation for a woman in our society as it becomes a curse which follows her every single day of her life for the rest of her life whether she deserves or not.

Do I think a women should forgive a man when he does that to her????????? Absolutely not even when???..!!!!

Pankaj had every rights to move on in his life if he wasn't happy with jyoti but making false allegation like he didn't sleep with her for two years, and she became pregnant by other man was just too rat like. he knew that it wasn't a fact and there is every possible chance that the child could be his even Jyoti was cheating on him.

Why didn't the undha insist for a DNA test before he labelled Jyoti's child as bustard. Don't tell me that highly educated undha didn't hear about this test.

Because even the child was his own flesh and blood he wouldn't accept it as its mother cheated on him??so he has the right to disowned the baby and call it bustard. But now he realise his wife hasn't slept with any other man rather than him his fatherhood suddenly rose up. Isn't that convenient.

I feel Pankaj deserves to live with Nelaam at least this Janam to repent what he has done to his child and its mother.

I would get really mad at the CV if they bring Jyoti and Pankaj together. It is an absolute no no for the message they are trying to spread. If this CV idiots can't handle issue with fairness and dignity they should refrain bring up such content and stick to rona dhona ekta kapoor types serials.

well said!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍🏼
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vrisha

Dhanush

That's the biggest problem I have w/ Pankaj (and CM) - them damaging her reputation. As a result, Jyoti went from pillar to post for interviews for a job similar to the one Sudha had, and kept being turned down not due to qualifications, but b'cos she supposedly slept around. IMO, her biggest mistake was not to abort that pyaar ka nishani. Since the pyaar ain't there, why keep the nishani?

If Pankaj wants Jyoti back, then b4 he even meets her, he needs to undo this, regardless of whether Jyoti ultimately accepts him or not. Like I said yesterday in the poll thread on what should Jyoti do now, I said that the most Pankaj should have, if that, is that Jyoti forgives him to the extent that she allows him to have her baby and give it his name, but that she herself doesn't return to him, but marries Kabir instead. Maybe it's a good idea for Jyoti to wait until she has that baby, and then marry Kabir after that.



Agreed 👍🏼
Pankaj should definitely try to apologise by clearing Jyoti's reputation in public, regardless of what Jyoti is deciding about their relationship in future.👏

And another thing.....
I was actually expecting Pankaj to ask about Jyoti, and how is she, what is she doing, her health and how he can meet her when he called up Padma after Brij's confrontation.😍
But all we got was "Baccha kaisa hai" 🥺
Ridiculous!!! 😡
What does this indicate? he is only concerned about the kid?

So Jyoti, please forget the affidavit, 🤔 give you baby the Vashisht surname 😳and let him/her live as a Vashisht.
This will be the best decision for your child as well as reduce Kabir's obligation to accept the child along with Jyoti which would've otherwise made matters worse in future when they'll have their own child. 👍🏼

But please don't go back to Pankaj 😲
I would've really liked them to reconcile if Pankaj had show desperation to get Jyoti back ⭐️
But all his statements seem like he's just interested in the baby 😡

To rakho na bacche ko, and leave Jyoti alone
And yes we would also like Pankaj to hear a Brij-Bhairavi confrontation so that the kid and Bhairavi are kept at a safe distance

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Posted: 15 years ago
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neat topic dhanush- the problem is multifold- first it is the stupid acceptance of man doing anything and getting off scot free while the woman has to bear the "burden" of all things negative and "bad" including the baby in the womb.

Well, Please do read my soon to be written post on divorce, single mothers and society.
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Dhanush071 extremely well written i must say!👍🏼 i l just luv this title Ek chutki bhar gulti ka ehsas tum kya jano viewers LOL!😆

now coming 2 the point. talking abt the brij-sushi reuniting track! i've never forgotten that... this is the worst track of this serial. neither will i ever forgive that brij nor will i forgive the creatives 4 showing such a pathetic track like that.😡 talking abt brij... what didn't he do? he used jyoti, played with her heart bcoz he wanted 2 marry a jobholder so that he wudn't have 2 work after marriage, he played with her emotions then later on made sushi a victim, he slept around with thousands of girls b4 marriage & after marriage, he was never loyal 2 his wife, he was never a dutiful hubby, he forced his wife 2 dance in bars, he made her sleep with another guy, he beat her abused her in front of the whole society, he ruined jyoti's marriage with his false statement... shameless brij!!! just by breaking a few bottles, shouting & breaking the furniture... he's got his wife back!!!👎🏼 i mean in front of the eyes of the creatives whatever he did was just a simple galti!!! well ask me... it wasn't a galti but gunaah! simply unforgivable sins! but oh well, the creatives have chosen 2 show women as doormats then what can we do but just sit & sulk 4 what is being shown in the serial😡

& now what pankaj-jyoti reunion on its way or a triangular luv track between them & kabir... i don't care now! pankaj got married & does he think that if he gets divorced with neelam... he can get jyoti back, well such a loser thought! why not just ask forgiveness from jyoti & make an announcement that she's not characterless but it was his fault solely, give back her reputation ruining his own image then just leave her alone! & jyoti can forgive him but not return back 2 him... if she has sum aatma samman left in her!

talking abt her frnshipe with kabir... is she a gud frnd or is it just kabir who's fulfilling his duties as a frnd ( though i will never ever forgive kabir 4 being the mahaan sant in uniting brij-sushi👎🏼) jyoti listens 2 her family & then stops talking 2 him... what a joke! if she knows what she's doing ( he y'days dialogue) then why did she stop talking 2 kabir!👎🏼 she shud have given a damn! she knows that he's just a fren then why is she scared of what people will say! what... scared of what people will say... no way!!! if she was ever scared of what people will say then at the 1st place she wud never had given that statement that she was not living with pankaj 4 the past 1 year.... didn't she know that with such a statement her child wud b labelled as an illegitimate child!😕 she can speak up 4 the whole world but when it comes 2 standing up 4 her own rights then she just keeps mum stands like a freezed statue with tears falling from her eyes with an open mouth with sum weird facial expressions!!!👎🏼😡😡😡😡😡😡

blah blah blah!!!! i'm just fed up of being shown women as doormats! simply nonsense!😡 men can b forgiven but not women! wow! simply fantastic! hats off 2 the creatives 4 promoting men-women equality & women empowerment!😡i ask the creatives is this the way 2 show it!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

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Originally posted by: vik rocks

Dhanush071 extremely well written i must say!👍🏼 i l just luv this title Ek chutki bhar gulti ka ehsas tum kya jano viewers LOL!😆

now coming 2 the point. talking abt the brij-sushi reuniting track! i've never forgotten that... this is the worst track of this serial. neither will i ever forgive that brij nor will i forgive the creatives 4 showing such a pathetic track like that.😡 talking abt brij... what didn't he do? he used jyoti, played with her heart bcoz he wanted 2 marry a jobholder so that he wudn't have 2 work after marriage, he played with her emotions then later on made sushi a victim, he slept around with thousands of girls b4 marriage & after marriage, he was never loyal 2 his wife, he was never a dutiful hubby, he forced his wife 2 dance in bars, he made her sleep with another guy, he beat her abused her in front of the whole society, he ruined Jyoti's marriage with his false statement... shameless brij!!! just by breaking a few bottles, shouting & breaking the furniture... he's got his wife back!!!👎🏼 i mean in front of the eyes of the creatives whatever he did was just a simple galti!!! well ask me... it wasn't a galti but gunaah! simply unforgivable sins! but oh well, the creatives have chosen 2 show women as doormats then what can we do but just sit & sulk 4 what is being shown in the serial😡

Well sach bolien to initially I had thought that since Brij is terminally ill, we can get a Kabir-Sushi alliance if Pankaj returns back to Jyoti,

Even if we let go of Pankaj because he was blind and has a reason to suspect Jyoti because she hid the truth initially and Bhairavi and Brij were there to manipulate Pankaj, but Brij???

What the hell do the CV's think? Is it compulsory for a woman to HAVE a man in her life,

I mean maafi wagairah to sab thik hai par Brij ke paas wapas kyon jaana? No where do we have those woman emancipation issues that were directing Sushi to be independent, complete hre schooling and do a job? they can say that, Waise bhi Brij to mar hi jaayega and it'd sound really bad if you do not fulfill the last wish of a dying man but we should also see na ki Brij ko uske paapon ki hi sazaa mil rahi hai, To just forgive him na, why remarry.

Kabir played a major role in this because, well he is a man himself and will probably never be able to understand what a woman goes through when your husband abuses you even when you're pregnant and leaves you. I think he just wanted to impess Jyoti for you know what...

Originally posted by: vik rocks

& now what pankaj-jyoti reunion on its way or a triangular luv track between them & kabir... i don't care now! pankaj got married & does he think that if he gets divorced with neelam... he can get jyoti back, well such a loser thought! why not just ask forgiveness from jyoti & make an announcement that she's not characterless but it was his fault solely, give back her reputation ruining his own image then just leave her alone! & jyoti can forgive him but not return back 2 him... if she has sum aatma samman left in her!

Pankaj ke paas to kabhi mat jaana, as I said previously, Pankaj looks like he's just considered about the kid. Agar usko Jyoti ke liye thodi si bhi fikar hoti, to that would've been obvious when he was talking to Padma.

Atleast he should be made to suffer for atleast some time, if not forever....

Originally posted by: vik rocks

talking abt her frnshipe with kabir... is she a gud frnd or is it just kabir who's fulfilling his duties as a frnd ( though i will never ever forgive kabir 4 being the mahaan sant in uniting brij-sushi👎🏼) jyoti listens 2 her family & then stops talking 2 him... what a joke! if she knows what she's doing ( he y'days dialogue) then why did she stop talking 2 kabir!👎🏼 she shud have given a damn! she knows that he's just a fren then why is she scared of what people will say! what... scared of what people will say... no way!!! if she was ever scared of what people will say then at the 1st place she wud never had given that statement that she was not living with pankaj 4 the past 1 year.... didn't she know that with such a statement her child wud b labelled as an illegitimate child!😕 she can speak up 4 the whole world but when it comes 2 standing up 4 her own rights then she just keeps mum stands like a freezed statue with tears falling from her eyes with an open mouth with sum weird facial expressions!!!😡

Well as I said previously, Kabir played a major role in the Brij-Sushi reconcilation because, he is a man himself and will probably never be able to understand what a woman goes through when your husband abuses you even when you're pregnant and leaves you.

Well, I think he just wanted to impress Jyoti for you know what na, and I am sure all his philosophies of forgiving will vanish into thin air when its Pankaj-Jyoti's turn. For the plain reason that if Jyoti does the same thing as Sushi, to uska chance to gaya na...

And coming to her not talking to Kabir, to I think she did it right, not because Deepu-Poonam said so, but beacuse as we know Jyoti considers him just as a friend and it would not be probably right involving someone who's just your friend into your private family matters!


Edited by nikkie - 15 years ago

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Well as I said previously, Kabir played a major role in the Brij-Sushi reconcilation because, he is a man himself and will probably never be able to understand what a woman goes through when your husband abuses you even when you're pregnant and leaves you.

Well, I think he just wanted to impress Jyoti for you know what na, and I am sure all his philosophies of forgiving will vanish into thin air when its Pankaj-Jyoti's turn. For the plain reason that if Jyoti does the same thing as Sushi, to uska chance to gaya na...

So you think he got him self shot also to impress Jyoti???.wow, I haven't known (not even heard of) anyone who could literally give their life to make an impression. And look who is trying to impress an average looking, middle class, divorced and heavily pregnant women who don't even love him. Lol???.you've got some idea about us men.

Let me tell you if a men had all luxuries money can buy, on top of that decent appearance, highly regarded family background, education and friends who genuinely loves him and care for him, he wouldn't ??..sorry will not go on to give his life to impress some parivaar obsessed (couldn't say self obsessed) egoistic, highly contradicting (because Jyoti hardly ever practices what she advise others) multi purpose doormat if he genuinely didn't believe in that cause and was true follower of his set ethics. Jyoti, gives lambha chaurah vashan about women respect and right in her family but when it came to raising her own voice when CM and her own CM padma was traumatising her she decided to forget about women's right. Unlike Jyoti, kabir atleast practices what he believes in.

Well..a man has to be completely cuckoo in his top floor to think like you????.don't you think??? 😉😆😆😆

Anyway, your avatar explains a lot about your statement though????lol!😉 😆

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