Riddhima- The status of the Indian woman!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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"the status of a country can be judged by the status of its women"- Jawaharlal Nehru


okk, so i completely agree with many views here on the point of riddhima moving on.. this notion that riddhima truly loved armaan only if she would've sat and moped around and waited for him her entire life made no sense to me... like many said, some of the views i read on this matter really made me wonder on what scales do young women judge themselves today? or maybe, these are the scales only for riddhima, because in opposition we have armaan! ahem, slight shifting of scales happening maybe???.. 😃

But.... on the flip side, the entire episode of riddhima and sid marriage, and the basis behind it also, did not throw good light on status of women in the country.

WHY... WHY... does a woman have to depend on a man? why is it, that a guy is considered to have made a successful life if he has a successful career... whereas for a girl, successful life has to mean a successful marriage????

Leave aside all the crap in terms of stella's nosing in riddhima's private affairs, or riddhima herself accusing sid of raping her.. (all these are instances im not clear about, coz, thankfully, i did not watch the show during that time..)... So lets accept that all these things happened.. Is getting the daughter married the only way out for the distraught parents? what if riddhima were a son? would shashank pick up the first random girl he comes across and give his son's hand in hers and carter them off with his blessing?? No! coz that would be the son! a son with a successful career! all the crap that happened is but a small set back..no need to jump the gun and get the son married, especially when the son is so emotionally vulnerable.. give the son time to heal.. but with the daughter, oh no! not an option.. her life is ruined dude! urgent disaster management required..

so we have this accha munda, who is willing to be the knight in shining armor to rescue the weak damsel in distress... as though that weren't enough to set the feminist in me raging, we have riddhima, in her complete sati savitri avtar declaring that "sid khud nahi janta usne mujhse shadi karke mujhpar kitna bada ehsaan kiya hai"... why does she need the "ehsaan" ??.. she is a successful educated woman of today, very much capable of standing on her own two feet without a man to give her support.. this sudden bechari-dukhiyari-abla-naari routine which riddhima pulled yet again, showed status of women in poor light ... but it doesn't end there... we have riddhima being subjected to all kinds of demeaning instances, like cleaning her husband's shoes... And whoa, our girl of today does not tell him in clear terms what she thinks of this act of his, as she should... because he's her husband after all.. Pati=parmeshwar routine coming into play now...(nothing against the other character mentioned here..)
And we have the worst phase of this medieval Indian society drama happening right now.. Riddhima is stuck between her pati-parmeshwar and her lauta hua pyaar ! A broken riddhima asks keerti "mujhe ye kyun nahi pehle bataya gaya ki armaan wapas aayega". So she does accept that she married sid under pressure.. so, why give importance to that marriage under societal obligations? Or, if the marriage really means a lot to u now, and if your husband has managed to firmly make a place in your heart, the return of your lover should not hurt u so much..okk, there will be the initial shock, but beyond that she should be able to tell armaan.. "thank you for the memories, you showed me a beautiful phase of life.. but ive moved on now like u wanted me to , and i wish the same for u".
Either u go back to Armaan recognizing he's the only one always, or u stay with sid recognizing he's the one.. But riddhima is going to stick to sid, and not let armaan go either, continuing with her abla naari routine, driving both men mental.. and the reason she will do that would be because she will continue to love armaan, but she will stick to her marriage due to the gratitude she feels for her husband and the societal obligations...her parents and all.... ( trust me, i will be happy if the only reason she sticks to sid will be that she loves him with her whole heart.. as an AR fan, i may not accept it, but as a woman, i will)...final nail in the coffin..
As women, we need to me ashamed of the fact that riddhima has been shown as such a weak willed and inconsistent character..
I think the best way for DMG to end would be to show a 50 year leap now, with riddhima sitting on the funeral pyre of her husband.. we can successfully send India back to the 1800's because hey, that's definitely what is being shown nowadays..

Kindly do not bring the AR/SR war in here... Please recognize the motto for this post, and give respect to the power of women .. Hail feminism !! .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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so much has been spoken about Riddhima, the character, her decisions... and what she should do and shouldnt lately that, i could say, she is one person on the show we all love to hate... the show i think thrives on her negative publicity!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: honeydew_dmg

so much has been spoken about Riddhima, the character, her decisions... and what she should do and shouldnt lately that, i could say, she is one person on the show we all love to hate... the show i think thrives on her negative publicity!!!

i think the writer here has failed on the character of Riddhima what is was supposed to be..I think the real status of the women is to be confident and have faith on her own decisions than to bow her head for the societal forcing on you (which is a daily routine in Indian culture) and again parental probably it was more a question on emotional grounds..she took it upp very rudly with the parents at the most unwanted time but gave up very ealily when she should have really stood up strongly which was the marraige time..but sadly she took the decision to keill herself..highly pathetic.
Kuddos to the writer atleast to keep the charm of the character Armaan and again they slipped a bit on his return showing the world tour before he met his beloved..?
Me again being AR fan ..no Armaan fan would like to see him happy which he definitely has all the right to be as a selfless character with Ridz or without her tooo..😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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your post is gr8 but i want to just tell cv's have destroyed ridzs character n have shown women as a weak person which womens r not todays women is confident n can take her decisions but the way cv's potrayed it n that too in a youth show is a shame i think ekta kapoor is better in showing that even a simple girl is also confident tulsi a preist daughter was more confident then riddhima n i feel bad the way cv's showed that marriage is only solution for ridzs wen they themself showed sister padma became a mother wen she was not married at all still she gave birth to the kid bcoz she thought thats her pyaar ki nisani n shasank supported her but wen it came to ridzs shasank n padma wanted her to marry bcoz of their izzat
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i totally agree. i gets me thinking everyone is fighting over who did the most for ridz and who saved her the most times...the true question is why hasnt Dr. Ridhimma never been able to save herself from anything? Now i dont expect her to be fighting thugs and all that but isnt just that. Why has she always been shown as either needing her daddy or Armaan or now Sid.
On the flip side we had Anjali and very independent strong minded person, we had nikki again living on her own, she didnt need Abhi to help her but simply wanted him to love her. We had Muskaan, who broke through the norms of her society and came and became a doctor. Who wasnt "morally" ashamed of the fact that she slept with her boyfriend before being married.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@randonsqaured: the answer is simple. anjali, nikki etc are not the leads of the show. somehow our indian telly creatives have a feeling that the female lead shud be a epitome of sacrifice and loyalty. v have many women marrying a mentally challenged person aka dulhann, bidaai etc but no hero marries a mentally challenged gal. women are are showb regressive irrespective of the genre.

in case of DMG its a classic example of bad planning n script-writing. first they thought KSG mite not return so in order to have a substitute male for ridhima, sidma marriage was adapted. now when KSg returned they changed it to hum dil chuke track. in this process a light-hearted show became a %&($"^ (censored) show.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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First of all, I've seen a topic like this before...
Guys, I'd suggest you read it...many women have commented and we even tried to get it published...Honour Is Suicidal This post was made by Niitca...excellently put, and posted when Shanky had aske Riddhima to Marry Sid...
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Anyway, back to the point...Before I post a huge comment on the issue, I'd like to state that I'm neither an AR or an SR fan, so my point of view is entirely neutral.
I'm a feminist myself, and honestly, the current state in which Riddhima is now, is nothing new to Indian television. Have you seen the shows on Colours? They showcase the most terrible, pathetic women as the stars of the soaps, and they generate the highest TRPs...it truly is a sorry state in which today's Indian women lies. 😡
Firstly, the thing is that Riddhima has always been portrayed as a damsel in distress. She has always needed Armaan for some cause or the other. "Need" is something largely different than "want"...wanting to be with someone is one thing, but needing them means dependency. Indian women, or women as a whole, have always been taught to depend on someone...always on a male.
Families wish for their sons to get good jobs, but they wish for their daughters to get good life partners and settle down peacefully, and eventually live a happy married life. It has never been career oriented for us, sadly in this society.
Women have always been treated as objects, and if anything better than that, we have always been considered as subordinate to men. As I read somewhere, "If I, as a woman, cannot do something, people will not say 'she doesn't have what it takes', they will say 'women don't have what it takes'..."
Living in a society dominated by men, it is partially our fault that we women are treated this way. We have allowed them to rule over us, to make us feel low.
And coming to the issue at hand, Riddhima's character follows on the lines of women in pre-British India, perhaps...where wives were treated as servants, and not given the least of human respect. I mean, cleaning the husband's shoes? How low and narrow-minded is that? 😡 She has taken to the traditional belief of the 'pati' being the 'parmeshwar'...and that has caused the problem.
She was perfectly capable of standing up for herself in the first place, and I wanted to throttle her when she said yes to the marriage. She is well educated, a doctor for God's sake! She could have but off the wagging tongues of society by her success and defiance to other's opinions! A marriage is built on love, trust and respect....Sid and Ridz had neither for the other. Then why get married? Riddhima's heart belonged to Armaan...and yet, since she was a woman, her father thought that the best way to shut up society was to get her married to a good guy. What logic? 😡
And even if he thought marriage was the only solution, then why get her married to the very person she had accused of raping her? Even though it was all false, but still...common sense points us to a different direction.
Daily soaps have a habit of showing women as helpless, incapable beings who always need a man's support to face the world. For once, if they showed a strong woman who could make her own choices and could face the world independently, they would get better TRPs (I can guarantee that...since women are the ones who watch serials the most, a strong lead would appeal to them) and we would get a sense of relief...yes, RELIEF. Much more than pride or anything else, I would be relieved to see a lady who can stand up for herself and not need a man to make her complete.
Riddhima, in this situation should choose between Armaan and Sid without having the need of dependency on him. She should choose of her own right...her right to love, her right to happiness.
Pati or boyfriend, it doesn't matter, As long as she makes the choice which would lead to her happiness, and find her heart some love and her soul some peace, I'm with her.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i was also abt to post dis topic. creatives had potrayed indian woman very badly.
they had shown if if she has the capability to be outstanding in her professiopn ,even then she aLSO NEEDS SUPPORT OF MEN. whwen stella was defamin ridz ,y don't she stood for herself n give proper explanationn took a decision nt to live dere bt focus on her carrer abroad or sumwhere away frm mumbai.why she didnt move out n decide to live as she wished .potrayed ridz character very badly which directly reflects indian woman status even if its fiction show.youth show??????????? youth enery ,passion,agressivesness for provin oneself is missing.pity on creatives who made the track lyk this.If creatives had shown the track this way ,dis means dat dey also take the woman in the same way dey had shown throogh ridz character becoz creativity only cum what u think.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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hey....


i wish taking decisions were as easy as you made them sound.. and if it were then there would be nothing to watch as well.. i think the makers on the show are trying real hard to strike a balance between all the three protogonists... and make the story look as sensible as possible ( atleast thats the impression i get when i see the episodes these days )....

yes, the way they have played ping pong with Riddhima's character certainly is inexcusable... but i would like to add, one thing at the moment about the post you made..

i dont think the issue here was anytime about Ridhima being the daughter, had shashank's son done something like that sid had done, i am sure he would have insisted that his get married to the girl to whom he had done something like that... that much i am sure about... coming to why suddenly Riddhima's become so vulnerable, i think, they did try ( though they may not have succeeded) to show the dilemma of a girl caught between her lover and her parents, not knowing what to do... yeah choosing a career as an option was certainly lying there in front of her... but when did DMG ever give importance to that aspect of any character? no matter how serious a situation is, they have always laid stress on the fact that the situation has been brought in to show the effect it has had on the leading couple.. so in that sense, perhaps, yeah, had they given Riddhima a better character graph i would have liked it too...

i would rather have liked her becoming cold and withdrawn after she returned, totally in her own world, shattered but not trying to show it person-instead of a man hating mad woman who left to given little opportunity to settle scores with a certain sid- but clearly the creatives were trying to recreate an "Armaan" out there... and give the show a "fresh look"- which so didnt work perhaps thanks to the real Armaan hangover from the past...

sadly the centre point of DMG is no longer the love story, it is Armaan and what happens to his love life, which is why, everything else and everyone else's track gets written accordingly...

agreed also that ther whole abala naari act was taking the whole thing a tad bit too far, with the creatives trying real hard to join the saas bahu league, lekin i feel they did that cos they were trying out every possible option under the scene, given the situation where Armaan would not return... when all that didnt work, they had to resort to the last measure and it sure did work!! n there on damage control !!! n i made this post earlier, but in my perception, the reason why Ridhima is shown this on the show, is perhaps a deliberate act on the part of the creatives... its a negative strategy... when you show a woman erring, you get annoyed, and you automatically start sympathising with the guy, and hence an attachment is created-

why did most women out here fall in love with Armaan in the first place? it was mostly cos, they couldnt get why a person like Ridhdima couldnt see thro how much he loved her... even when she had a valid reason as to why she called it off during the muskaan time, most people still sided Armaan saying he never meant harm and he still loved her, and then finally the parapet incident where he takes up the bet, and Riddhima cries to herself about why she had kept him away for so long!!! it was all justified, but no one wanted to see it... no one cared... cos on the face of it, Riddhima was never meant to be this girl next door seedhi saadhi ladki... she was supposed to be an insecure confused girl who wasnt sure about what her life would be like... !! in that sense... i guess, the makers have tried from time and again to pull her down to bring the others up!!

and please in todays world where most men and women are treated equally these debates become redundant.. one of the best examples for the fact that men are tortured is our own show!!! Armaan and Siddie would vouch for it... :D
Edited by honeydew_dmg - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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.... why do you make such a big deal about an indian woman anyway???? are we trying to prove a point here? moreover the confused soul that riddhima has aways been, she is trying everything under the sun, under pressure to make things around her look as normal as possible...

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