Way of life in future

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Do you think that the way we live in future will become more and more materialistic or will it slowly improve and become more and more simpler.
There is no doubt that rapid scientific advancements are taking place and modern cities being formed.
Still more men are seeking answers and asking questions like "Who am I ?" "what the hell am I doing here?" " Where am I going ?" What will happen after I die?'
Global warming and other natural disasters too are making us rethink.
Based on the Hindu system of yugas we are already leaving Kali yuga and entering the Golden Age.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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I'm not sure; both the sides are progressing fast. I think the influence of religion will gradually diminish, and people will get more spiritual than doctrinal. Scientific advances and spiritual ascensions will happen simultaneously, I think, or so it seems to me looking at the current state of the world.

And btw,

Originally posted by: Summer3

Do you think that the way we live in future will become more and more materialistic or will it slowly improve and become more and more simpler.

Just curious - what gives you the impression that the materialistic lifestyle is inferior than the spiritual one?
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people world over are going Vegetarian n trying to understand and/or adopt Hinduism, voluntarily.
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Materialism (in the economic sense) = unlimitted wants. A materialist is a person for whom collecting material goods is an important priority.
But resources are limitted. Our endless greed is leading to fast depletion of resources. Then you can say that we will find alternatives. Bio fuel was upheld as an alternative for fossil fuels. But due to usage of vast areas of land for cultivation of plants used to produce bio fuels, food insecurity is increasing. Comming to energy resources like solar energy, it's too inadequate to meet our needs and very expensive. Nuclear energy posses the threat of hazardous waste materials.

Only thing we can do is to limit our material needs, to limit our greed and use resources wisely. Trans-national corporations , developed countries, imperialist agencies all are encouraging us to consume more n more:) They say that consumer is the king. Why? Because money falls into their pockets. Internet, Television e.t.c. is used to encourage us to buy more n more. But the thing is, it is possible to use the same media (internet) to spread awareness about problems created by blind materialism!😆

Vedantha, Buddhism e.t.c. teach us how our endless greed will make us more and more miserable. They teach us how to control our desires our greed and how to become a happy n content person and much more than that..
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Originally posted by: Summer3

Do you think that the way we live in future will become more and more materialistic or will it slowly improve and become more and more simpler.

There is no doubt that rapid scientific advancements are taking place and modern cities being formed.
Still more men are seeking answers and asking questions like "Who am I ?" "what the hell am I doing here?" " Where am I going ?" What will happen after I die?'
Global warming and other natural disasters too are making us rethink.
Based on the Hindu system of yugas we are already leaving Kali yuga and entering the Golden Age.



It is definitely not gonna get simpler. That's fo sho! Unless there's some kinda apocalypse, if it indeed exists and we're back to square one. That's the only way it can get simpler. Otherwise, world's kinda like an ever entangling web which only keeps getting more and more complicated, don't you think?
Materialistic, it sure is and will keep getting all the more with time. But that will still denote improvement in terms of materialism/business if not in something else. I don't think that's gonna get in the way of intellectual sophistication though. Those who have the will to ponder upon things like "who am I" and stuff like that will still keep going regardless of what's goin on around them.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: pogo

Materialism means unlimitted wants.

Uh, I don't think Summer was talking about the economic materialism, it was the philosophical concept of materialism, (which holds that matter is the ultimate reality, that is, all things including emotions and consciousness can be explained as a result of material interaction; this is in stark contrast to spiritualism) that was the focus of the topic, or at least that is how I interpreted his words, based on the few spiritual questions he threw at the end of the OP. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

Uh, I don't think Summer was talking about the economic materialism, it was the philosophical concept of materialism, (which holds that matter is the ultimate reality, that is, all things including emotions and consciousness can be explained as a result of material interaction; this is in stark contrast to spiritualism) that was the focus of the topic, or at least that is how I interpreted his words, based on the few spiritual questions he threw at the end of the OP. Of course, I could be wrong.




Both are very much interrelated:) I was talking about economic materialism where greed over material objects is high.

I did mention vedantha n buddhism. Economic materialism is something that we see around us and anyone with some interest in the topic can observe and talk about it. No one here in this forum including 'Mister K' can talk for or against philosophical concept of materialism with clarity, because we are too ignorant for that.. There are people who claim to have found answers to 'who am I'? 'what life means?' e.t.c. But unless I realize the truth myself, i'm not fit to talk about it I think..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: pogo

Both are very much interrelated:) I was talking about economic materialism where greed over material objects is high.

I seemed to have missed the connection between them, maybe you can explain. How is the economic concept of materialism related to the philosophical concept of it? I mean, other than sharing a few letters, I really don't, or rather can't, see the connection. A person who only believes in the existence of matter need not be selfish or greedy. Atheists are mostly materialists, believing that the ultimate reality or truth lies solely on the physical plane. I have come across theories relating these things together, but none of it made much sense to me, but then again, I have not read much about these either. By the way, did you know that theists could be materialists too; I heard some believes that God lies within matter. Quite an interesting angle, if you ask me.

Originally posted by: pogo

I did mention vedantha n buddhism. Economic materialism is something that we see around us and anyone with some interest in the topic can observe and talk about it. No one here in this forum including 'Mister K' can talk for or against philosophical concept of materialism with clarity, because we are too ignorant for that.. There are people who claim to have found answers to 'who am I'? 'what life means?' e.t.c. But unless I realize the truth myself, i'm not fit to talk about it I think..

Yes, materialism is a very difficult subject, but so is everything in philosophy. I don't know why we should hesitate talking about it simply because we do not know it full well. In fact, openly talking about it creates bridges amongst people, help one another in understanding each others thought process.

Btw, you did not need to edit your post.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

I'm not sure; both the sides are progressing fast. I think the influence of religion will gradually diminish, and people will get more spiritual than doctrinal. Scientific advances and spiritual ascensions will happen simultaneously, I think, or so it seems to me looking at the current state of the world.

And btw,
Just curious - what gives you the impression that the materialistic lifestyle is inferior than the spiritual one?
Edited to add comments.

I agree that people in evolving further tend to be more spiritual then doctrinal.
We cannot do without the modern conveniences and scientific advancements. But generally the belief is that too much religion and spirituality could lead to lesser attraction towards materialistic objects and desires and this could lead to lesser scientific advancement. Ideally both should go hand in hand. Fortunately in this world we have people with different natures and objectives and I guess they all have a role to play to keep both wheels turning.
Still I always believe it is better to be cultured and well behaved (eventhough one may have limited education) rather than an intellectual nuisance.
A few mad leaders or a few great leaders can change the course of the world.
Hitler almost succeeded in rewriting History and eliminating the Jews.
But here we see a fight between the forces of good against evil. We cannot take away the element of Divine intervention when all things seem to go the wrong way. some may question why did the Divine take so long? Guess there is an element of free will allowed for humans to use their own initiative and intelligence.
Material Life vs Spiritual Life
Which is better depends on the individual as to what he or she really wants. Neither can be forced upon a person. sometimes desires need to be satisfied to some extent before we can progress further in our spiritual lives I think. We must achieve self satisfaction before reaching the stage of self sacrifice.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: 4teen11

people world over are going Vegetarian n trying to understand and/or adopt Hinduism, voluntarily.

Well yes many things are happening and hopefully religions are also evolving.

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