Romanian diplomat runs/ Singapore wants him back

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How far does diplomatic immunity cover ? Can Romanian Diplomat who killed someone be brought to justice? diplomat has run away back to his country.
He cooked up a story that his car was stolen, actually he was drunk in the early hours with some women from the niteclubs.

Hit-and-run inquest March

T LEAST 35 witnesses will be called at a coroner's inquiry into the death of a hotel assistant manager who was run over by a Romanian diplomat's car in December.

The inquiry into the death of Malaysian Tong Kok Wai, 30, a Singapore permanent resident, will be held from March 3 to 10.

Mr Tong died on Christmas Day - 10 days after a hit-and-run accident at Bukit Panjang - after he was taken off life support.

The newly-wed and Malaysian waiter Bong Hwee Haw, 24, were walking on the pedestrian crossing at the junction of Bukit Panjang Road and Bangkit Road at about 3.10am on Dec 15 when they were hit by an embassy car. The car sped off and hit an 18-year-old student at the next controlled junction.

Principal Senior State Counsel Lau Wing Yum revealed this in court on Wednesday while giving a brief summary of what happened that fateful day.

He said the Romanian charge d'affaires, Dr Silviu Ionescu, 49, reported the loss of his car at 3.40am that day. The car, with its front windscreen smashed and bonnet dented, was found locked and abandoned at Sungei Kadut Avenue later that day

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ROMANIAN DIPLOMAT WAS THE DRIVER

Senior State Counsel Lau Wing Yum said said extensive police investigations showed that the car was not stolen and that Dr Ionescu was behind the wheel at the time of the two accidents.

Dr Ionescu flew back to Romania three days later. He has since been recalled by the Romanian government.

But Mr Lau said his whereabouts is not known. He added that the Singapore police are in contact with Interpol Bucharest.

Mr Tong's next of kin is being represented by KhattarWong while Hoh Law Corporation is holding a watching brief for Mr Bong, who has since returned to Kuching for rehabilitation due to severe head and bodily injuries.

The Romanian economic counsellor and acting charge d'affaires, Mr Alexandru Nicolae Coseru turned was present at the mention as well.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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This is very bad and unreasonable. But then again it's the Romanians. They were brought up using spears and swords and what not. They are cousins to the Australians.😛
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Originally posted by: debayon

This is very bad and unreasonable. But then again it's the Romanians. They were brought up using spears and swords and what not. They are cousins to the Australians.😛

Read more he is definitely guilty but has run away. He is a murderer but it may not be possible to bring him to justice here.

POLICE yesterday said they have evidence that Romanian Charge d'Affaires Silviu Ionescu was the driver of the car involved in a hit-and-run accident that left one person dead and two others injured last month.

In rare proceedings held yesterday, Principal Senior State Counsel Lau Wing Yum told State Coroner Victor Yeo that Dr Ionescu, 49, beat two red lights and hit three pedestrians while driving an Audi A6 sedan on Dec 15.

Less than an hour later, he made a false police report that the car had been stolen. Three days later, he left Singapore.

Mr Tong Kok Wai, 30, one of the three victims, died 10 days after the accident at the junction of Bukit Panjang Road and Bangkit Road.

Two others, waiter Bong Hwee Haw, 24, and Muhammad Haris Abu Talib, 18, were hurt in the accident.

Yesterday's proceedings were held ahead of an inquest into Mr Tong's death.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Even though my dad's a diplomat, and can get away with braking a traffic light, he can't murder someone and get away with it.
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Originally posted by: debayon

Even though my dad's a diplomat, and can get away with braking a traffic light, he can't murder someone and get away with it.

That is interesting, so you must be quite diplomatic too.
How long you been in the States?
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<FONT color=#003399>That is interesting, so you must be quite diplomatic too.</FONT>

<FONT color=#003399>How long you been in the States?</FONT>

2 years. 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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NIce. Most diplomats normally shift around and may get posted in different countries. some sort of rotation. I hope you have no problem with your education.
Does the diplomatic immunity of your dad also cover the wife and kids?
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Diplomatic immunity is a form of legal immunity and a policy held between governments, which ensures that diplomats are given safe passage and are considered not susceptible to lawsuit or prosecution under the host country's laws (although they can be expelled). It was agreed as international law in the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations (1961), though the concept and custom have a much longer history. Many principles of diplomatic immunity are now considered to be customary law. Diplomatic immunity as an institution developed to allow for the maintenance of government relations, including during periods of difficulties and even armed conflict. When receiving diplomats — who are, formally, representatives of the sovereign — the receiving head of state grants certain privileges and immunities to ensure that they may effectively carry out their duties, on the understanding that these will be provided on a reciprocal basis.

Originally, these privileges and immunities were granted on a bilateral, ad hoc basis, which led to misunderstandings and conflict, pressure on weaker states, and an inability for other states to judge which party was at fault. Various international agreements known as the Vienna Conventions codified the rules and agreements, providing standards and privileges to all states.

It is possible for the official's home country to waive immunity; this tends to only happen when the individual has committed a serious crime, unconnected with their diplomatic role (as opposed to, say, allegations of spying), or has witnessed such a crime. Alternatively, the home country may prosecute the individual. Many countries refuse to waive immunity as a matter of course; individuals have no authority to waive their own immunity (except perhaps in cases of defection).

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It pretty much covers anything. As noted the diplomat's government can always choose to waive immunity. And if they don't, the person could be prosecuted if they returned to the country where the crime was committed. While there are any number of things that any normal person would prefer diplomatic immunity not to cover, the reason that it does cover all these crimes is that if it didn't nothing would prevent the host government from bringing false charges against diplomats from a country it didn't like, for political reasons.
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<FONT color=#003366>NIce. Most diplomats normally shift around and may get posted in different countries. some sort of rotation. I hope you have no problem with your education.</FONT>

<FONT color=#003366>Does the diplomatic immunity of your dad also cover the wife and kids?</FONT>

Yes, it does. I've been all around the world. But dad's deputation is temporary. He's not from the IFS, he's trying to get into it. So, this is his first assignment.
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<FONT color=#003366>NIce. Most diplomats normally shift around and may get posted in different countries. some sort of rotation. I hope you have no problem with your education.</FONT>

<FONT color=#003366>Does the diplomatic immunity of your dad also cover the wife and kids?</FONT>
[/QUOTE Yes, it does. I've been all around the world. But dad's deputation is temporary. He's not from the IFS, he's trying to get into it. So, this is his first assignment.[/QUOTE
Ah so sometimes you miss you Delhi Biryani and halva and rus gula n also your friends .😊

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