This really defeats my understanding

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Why has no-one in any desi drama ever addressed the fact that when a girl has to marry someone she has to sleep with them? If there is no attraction, do they still expect that women will sleep with the guy and "grow to love them?" Haven't we grown out of this mindless concept yet? What is more, what if the girl is attracted to someone else when she is forced to marry another guy?

Rajeev Bhala was a troll; if he didn't put you off then think about his hairy armpits when he was trapped in the bathroom, or his yellow teeth, or his dreadful dancing. Does that do it for you now? However, Manju was overjoyed when the rishta came. Her daughter, chubby as she might be, is actually quite an attactive woman despite looking frumpy and yet she wanted her daughter to marry that troll just to please others?
Simi was also ready to marry this guy and spend the rest of her life with him to please her family. Sorry, but in my book you are really "selling yourself" for your family to help fix their problems when you make this type of decision. Now Simi is ready to do it again, but this time with Nukul, and knowing full well she's in love with someone else. Isn't that unfair to the guy whom you are supposed to be marrying (Nukul)? I mean I would loathe being married to someone knowing they were in love with someone else and only did to please their family. Then Nukul being so old-fashioned, what would he care?
I am astounded that in Indian society, when parents arrange marriages, they never realize that their children are supposed to spend the rest of their lives with the other person. I have actually counseled Indo-Pak women who are divorced (for various reasons) who revealed they were not in love with their husbands or ever were. Sleeping with them (their husbands) at night was something they did, but never enjoyed. Several have admitted that they were so upset with the way their husband looked on their wedding night, they cried. I know of cases where women were raped on their wedding night because they were so upset with how their husband looked they could not bring themselves to be intimate with them.

It's very sad that we still have not grasped this issue in society nor are writers willing to address this ever in a show (or movie for that matter) when they set up all these arranged marriages. Here we have Simi willing to marry (and sleep) with RB, and now she's willing to do it with Nukul, who, by the way, I do not consider as attractive either. Any guy with white socks taking orders from his dadi is a dweeb (dull, boring and mindless).

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hi,
Inequalities of gender!
In a malecentric soceity like ours the women have no soul no mind.
the few who make it are either single, divorced or a widow ( read as without a man).....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Laila i'll read and get back
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Nice post Laila 👏

What I don;t understand is Will Simi realise anything she did with Abhi .. They keep showing one dialogue in serials and movie
" Agar tumnay Yeah Faisala Liya to Teen teen zindagi barbaar Ho gayegi and that happens..

Nakul's dadi next thing will come to 12/24 with Roka and will command/order RS that we will do all arrangements for Simi and Nakul's Shaadi
Simi asusual with her blank face will be looking at all this and then she will be asked t put pallu on her head and take Ashirwaad of Daadi..

Will it never strike her that what am i going to do I am messing my life Nakulji's life (weither he cares abt his life or not donno) and Abhi's.

What on earth does she want !! This will happen sooner or later.. Abhi had the chance to ask RS for her hand.. She let go of that oppertunity now she is making her life miserable and pulling two others..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Laila...its fabulous post. ...rather I dont watch Karol bhag because of the plight of women they show....I left when she was willing to marry a guy like RB despite knowing truth....You said it right its selling yourself....As someone said above India is malecentric society,,,,where women with soul and mind are crushed at every moment....
NISa you are right those who make it are usually single in this malecentric society.....but I hate the fact...this inequality is shown rather glamorized and idolized on Indian television even in this serial....thru self sacrificing lamb SImi in this one
where either we have selfish nuts like Anita or self sacrificing nuts like Simi...cant she be more realistic to chose Abhi
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: kuls11

Laila...its fabulous post. ...rather I dont watch Karol bhag because of the plight of women they show....I left when she was willing to marry a guy like RB despite knowing truth....You said it right its selling yourself....As someone said above India is malecentric society,,,,where women with soul and mind are crushed at every moment....
NISa you are right those who make it are usually single in this malecentric society.....but I hate the fact...this inequality is shown rather glamorized and idolized on Indian television even in this serial....thru self sacrificing lamb SImi in this one
where either we have selfish nuts like Anita or self sacrificing nuts like Simi...cant she be more realistic to chose Abhi

Thank you, I am truly astounded that none of these dramas point out the horrors of these marriages. I know women who are still married whom I have counseled. Some of these women are educated and talented, and they are miserable with their spouses. Some I know from the cases of other counselors. The needs of women are completely ignored. It does sadden me. When I ask some of the women (including a couple of relatives with arranged marriages), who on the front look like they have happy marriages, would they have ever chosen their spouse, they say "NO." The spouses might not be abusive but they don't love them.
The most disturbed are the women whose parents force them into marriages and then they rationalize to themselves that their parents did the right thing; they have to tell everyone how much they are loved, but deep down inside they are horribly unhappy. I had a friend like this and for years she would tell me this and then after 10 years of trying to convince me she called me and said, she hated her husband, her life and her parents for what they did. It was a huge step for her and it meant she had to be angry at her parents which is such a taboo in our society. We can never be angry at them because they are next to God. And that would be like a sin. Can you image the torture she want through?
I know of guys who have also been pressured into marrying women as well and have been miserable. One shared that he couldn't sleep with his wife and had to take viagara. He was miserable.
The point is that writers don't hesistate to have young girls like Simi marry men like RB and they show no revulsion against the idea that they are going to have sex with this guy. Their parents are completey oblivious of the idea as sex is going to happen between them, but they pretend that it will never happen. Simi did make a comment to RB that she would marry him but she would be his wife in name only. Exactly how did she plan on doing it this after he had already attempted to rape her?
So she has to marry Nukul, let's leave aside the arguement of whether she wants to or not, it's going to happen. Dadi already made up her mind these two are going to spend the rest of their lives together - her, Nukul and Simi. Dadi will decide everything for them - their clothes, where they live, how many times they will be intimate and when she wants her grandchildren.
So Simi, you are mindless idiot, you have the perfect life.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

So she has to marry Nukul, let's leave aside the arguement of whether she wants to or not, it's going to happen. Dadi already made up her mind these two are going to spend the rest of their lives together. Her, Nukul and Simi. Dadi will decide everything for them - their clothes, where they live, how many times they will be intimate and when she wants her grandchildren. So Simi, you are mindless idiot, you have the perfect life.




Laila I'm probably not the same custom as you so I see things differently but I never let someone decided for me, even my mother in my eyes is a human not a god sorry she makes mistakes like me c 'flesh is weak as me, then my happiness is in my hand and as they say you learn from her mistake I prefer to make the wrong choice and take me to myself as the assumed error that my parent would have taken for me (I do not want to hurt anyone with my comments) that say when his heart loves you must follow to the heart knows reason that reason does not know (it's a saying) and I believe have might try to understand why we love This person most often we know not I call this life a prison (or what brought life and then what else) I have no way to explain what I want it will speak to me then no I sla kill myself instead I give my opinion then Laila love your way of thinking but this post I am 100% against





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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pattinson6




Laila I'm probably not the same custom as you so I see things differently but I never let someone decided for me, even my mother in my eyes is a human not a god sorry she makes mistakes like me c 'flesh is weak as me, then my happiness is in my hand and as they say you learn from her mistake I prefer to make the wrong choice and take me to myself as the assumed error that my parent would have taken for me (I do not want to hurt anyone with my comments) that say when his heart loves you must follow to the heart knows reason that reason does not know (it's a saying) and I believe have might try to understand why we love This person most often we know not I call this life a prison (or what brought life and then what else) I have no way to explain what I want it will speak to me then no I sla kill myself instead I give my opinion then Laila love your way of thinking but this post I am 100% against



Write it in French and I will translate in my very bad French. The reason is you have said you are 100% against my post.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Laila je suis peut etre pas de la meme coutume que toi alors je vois les choses differemment mais jamais je laisserai quelqu'un decider pour moi mme ma mere a mes yeux c'est un humain pas un Dieu desoler elle commet des erreur comme moi c'est une chair faible comme moi, alors mon bonheur est entre mes mains et comme on dis on apprend de ses erreur je preferer faire le mauvais choix et m'en prendre a moi meme que d'assumers les erreur que mes parent auraient pris pour moi (je ne veux bless personne avec mes propos) cela dis quand son coeur aime il faut le suivre le coeur a sait raison que la raison ignore (c'est un dicton) et je le crois ont aura beau essayer de comprendre pourquoi on aime cette personne le plus souvent on le sait pas moi j'appelle cette vie une prison (quoi porter ou vivre et puis quoi encore) j'aurai pas le moyen d'expliquer ce que je veut on aura la parole pour moi alors la non je me tuerai a la place j'aime donner mon opinion alors Laila j'aime ta manire de penser mais ce poste je suis contre a 100%

Simi est une femme faible dans un sens mais je la voit pas heureuse avec Nakhul du tous mais pas du tous, j'ai vecu et j'ai vu j'ai a peine 20ans mais on me donnera plus j'ai decider de faire ma vie comme je le veut et pas comme les gens le veut et ma mere je suis facher avec elle par ce que je suis quelqu'un avec un fort caractere on me dis pas pas quoi faire et comment vivre je la remercie de m'avoir mise sur terre mais je la considere pas comme Dieu.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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wonderful pos t laila..i 100% agree wid u..the fact is such thngs r idolized on tv n KB is also following tis trend...the dialogue tat simis says 2 RB tat she wud b wife 4 namesake is almost said in many soaps n in midway the herione or the socalled wife falls in love wid her hubby....tis is wat indian soaps r all abt.....instead of awakening n making ppl aware of such reality always the negative has been highlited bt dne in a positive manner..

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