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Posted: 15 years ago
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I say the same here . Villians are getting away with murder . Look at Manjusha , she is getting exactly what she wants.
Savita, even after loosing her son, has not changed . Forget her being nasty to Archana , she is still on a mission to squeeze out more kurbaanis from Manav.
If she had her way she would sell him to the highest bidder.She is now a certified victim , hence even more dangerous.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I am loosing my interest in PR.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@koolsadhu: Again I guess we have different views on this.. as I said to Tanyaz.. there is no doubt that if Archana asks Manav not to marry shravani she will be misunderstood... will it be any worse than what the situation already is... as I said, I want her to make it clear that she isn't saying this to save her marriage, she is ready to move out of Manav's life but doesn't want Manav to make the wrong decision and ruin his life... just like Damodar said... this is what will make Manav sit up and take notice that she still cares about him.. that she is ready to be the bad person to save his life and even Shravani's from what I call an emotional suicide... more than Archna tying a bandage on Manav's wounds.. this is what is going to affect him...it wud have come as a realisation of Archu's goodness and love just as it had been when Manav saved Varsha from disgrace even though he had to face Varsha's insults for the same..

Cos Archana walking away with a dignified silence and saying too much has gone wrong now... and nothing can be done attitude wont help matters here at all.. you are speaking of the scene at the chawl... Manav even though heartbroken and already signed the divorce papers got hope when she said she wanted to meet him... but the turn of events that day ruined everything.. even though things had gone wrong but still when his dad got evidence he got hope thinking he wud be able to save his sinking marriage.. at least prove his innocence (this when he knew Archana's wedding with Satish was fixed)... he didn't think that Archna is ready to move on in life now.. doean't care about me at all and probably I shud step back now... he thought of showing her the tape as one last attempt... and leave the decision to her. So why can't Archana do the same today???
Going separate ways here is going to spoil both their lives.. but Archana convincing Manav will solve most of the problems.. Manav will be convinced that Archana loves him...he will start trusting her.. and the rest of the things will fall into place. I dunno but I feel men are emotionally weaker and children within, they need love and care.. and it wud have been sweet to see Archana being Manav's support at this difficult moment... true to the title song
What we will be shown however, is Archana slowly getting convinced herself that Manav's decision to marry shravani is correct and a twist of fate. Who knows in the future she may be shown as herself telling Manav to go ahead with the marriage since she understands his 'situation'... that will be the day I'll shout 'What CRAP'

My dear nikita , the day Manav proposed to Shravani saying I will marry u was the day u shud have shouted 'what CRAP '.😆 If you r gonna say ' what crap ' on the day Archana tells him to go ahead and marry Shravani ................the day her real unselfish nature , and some semblance of dignity as a woman is finally shown .............I wud find it really unfair . Strange that you dont find any of Manav's actions crappy but even the most noble of Archana's actions 'crap' .
Just look at it if u can from this point of view .
Savita has blamed Archana for Sachins death...........in the hospital , on his dead body , by visiting her house with a sari .Laid such tremendous guilt trips on that tongue tied girl . Kaka and Vandu hate her . Manav hates her too and it is Manav's personal wish to marry Shravani and to be part of that responsibility which isnt even his .
With what face , with what guts will archana or any girl in this case , when the divorce is in the final stages , even tell " Manav' you dont marry that girl ?" And pray , what earthly reason will she give for it , with what right when Manav has now taken all rights away from her ? The moment she does it , Manav will tell her u killed my brother and now u dont want me to set things right by taking responsibility ?
If she says the thing of what ur advocating ..........that it is unfair for two people to be locked in a loveless marraige , ur destroying ur own life and even Shravnis etc etc Manav will rebound and say Who the hell told u we r marrying for love ? We r marrying as a compro in the best interests of the child . The child wont get so much love from a total stranger like i wud love Sachins child , and Shravni is too making the child her priority . U see Archna , things have gone beyond control now , love and all have taken a backseat what looms ahead is only RESPONSIBILITY . That too ur telling me to deny , how horribly selfish you are ? Do u have any face whatsoever to even telll me this ? Under the name of ' protecting ' me ur telling me not to marry poor shravni........how convenient and womanly !
Not just that nikita , if u say that hey anyway they r all angry with Archana so whats this one more outburst , surely Archu can take this much too if her goal is noble ...............the question is , will she be listened to ? Even if Archana decides to brave this one more furrious outburst in effect will she be listened to ? Nope . So why open mouth and take this shit anyways ? Anyway he isnt going to listen , he is beyond listening . When person is not in a frame of mind to listen to reason , it is POINTLESS to even try and talk to the person as it WORSENS things .
But if she remains quiet , doesnt oppose to the marraige and is actually , keeping her womanly feelings aside , on a human level sympathetic to Shravani , her attitude will definetely affect Manav's hardened heart . He will understand what a gem she was and how grossly he misunderstood her .
If she quietly leaves him with Shravni at the end of the stay , some of her dignity will be restored for the poor girl has been humiliated enough for absolutely no fault of her own . Her character was stripped in public places , her relations with her own brother have been spoilt , she has been doomed to a life of no marraige and no children as she publicly declared her love for a man , and she has to watch her husband cold shouldering her and waiting hand and foot on a younger , pregnant girl . All for what ? Coz she didnt have the nerve to conjure up guts and talk to Manav ........two three times she ignored him and didnt talk to him ..............Big deal ! See the crime and see the ratio of her punishment ! And on the top , Manav fans want her to tell him Dont marry Shravni while Manav blasts her yet again and anyways goes ahead with his stupid actions .............in effect , Manav fans want her to have no dignity at all , they want her to grovel till the end before him !
And i ask .........Why ? Why the hell shud she suffer so much humiliation and to this degree yaar ? So two three times she didnt talk to ' poor Manav ' and sweetu Manav . For that why shud she be blamed for his brothers death , character assasinated , and subjected to the humiliation of watching her husband hovering around and waiting hand and foot on another woman under her nose ? Add to that , suffer the loathing of the full Deshmukh family as if she was vermin ? Was the Deshmukh family perfect ?
In my opinion as a viewer Archana has been humiliated ENOUGH . She shud regain her dignity by not opposing to the marraige and decide to focus on her education . I am sorry , I am not among those who just wants ARMAN moments any how , just getting them together SOMEHOW is not what pleases me as a viewer . If i see a woman who was just standing on her own feet , just getting back to studies constantly crying before a man for no fault of her own while he is in no mood to listen to reason and simply accepts her for old times sake , I feel anger as a viewer . The man has made some decisions , the woman now needs a spine as she too has been thru enough . Of course .........either the child is gonna die or Shravni , and Manav will eventually go back to her but I want Archana to have some dignity in this whole thing ............it can only be got by focussing on her studies , job , and giving the permission to marry Shravni .
Telling Manav not to marry Shravni will be the last tear in her dignity which has already been usurped horribly by Savita . Let the girl have some semblance of it . I understand ur point of ego not helping the situation it will only drive them apart but there is a fine line between ego and dignity here and Archana shud NOT be subjected to any more humiliation from Manav or Savita . Savita is playing the victim and Manav is playing the hero ...........the least they ccud show is her having some quiet dignity . And Manav seems to have controlled himself damn well when it comes to Girish . He hasnt blasted him or blamed him for being RUTHLESS .
Ur right nikita. our perspectives on this r diametrically opposite . But i like debating with u.........u understand in the proper spirit and u do not take offense and I do respect ur opinion although i view things diffrently .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

I say the same here . Villians are getting away with murder . Look at Manjusha , she is getting exactly what she wants.

Savita, even after loosing her son, has not changed . Forget her being nasty to Archana , she is still on a mission to squeeze out more kurbaanis from Manav.
If she had her way she would sell him to the highest bidder.She is now a certified victim , hence even more dangerous.

👏👏👏 How apt and correct Tanyaz .
Speaking of the villains ..........They r having a blast .
Savita is playing the victim , still waltzing in and out of the karanjkar home laying guilt trips on them [ she seems to be unaffected by the beating she got in the lock up , it really is time for a second round ]and as u said , still extracting sacrifices from mAnav and screwing up his life . Not surprisingly she does not have an iota of guilt in her own mind about Sachin's death and her own role in it .
Rasika in resplendent saris is having tea parties and now planning to screw up Satish and varsha ........two more innocents .
Manju is moving into a new flat . Her use of her in laws ..........for bringing Punni up is over .Punni is grown and goes to school now . Her goal of breaking up her sister in laws marraige has been achieved , Her goal of saving her sleazeball brother has been achieved too . She hit two birds with one stone and is moving on to newer horizons with even more fragrant gajras in her conniving , curly head .
Ajit the sleazeball , the biggest villain of all who started this ball rolling in the first place is in a place that is most suitable for him ........Bangkok , which is infamous for ts prostitution . Undoubtedly he is busy frequenting brothels there now as it seems brothels were his favorite hanging out places in Mumbai and he hobnobbed with pimps all the time . So Ajit is too far away to be in jail or even be verbally hauled up . Wow . [ I seriously hope they show us Ajit returning with some sexual disease that he contracted in Bangkok . I mean the least they can show us as entertainment if they want Ajit free all the time to do fresh wicked deeds is him getting a burning sensation whenever he pees .}
How can All the viillains be ever punished Now is an impossible mystery . Savita has already gone scot free as the significance of her villainy has been blunted by Manav's ..........now what diffrence does it make attitude due to Sachin's death .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kool , my blood pressure is going up reading your post ..... no one can nail these guys... no one .😡
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000



My dear nikita , the day Manav proposed to Shravani saying I will marry u was the day u shud have shouted 'what CRAP '.😆If you r gonna say ' what crap ' on the day Archana tells him to go ahead and marry Shravani ................the day her real unselfish nature , and some semblance of dignity as a woman is finally shown .............I wud find it really unfair . Strange that you dont find any of Manav's actions crappy but even the most noble of Archana's actions 'crap' .


Just look at it if u can from this point of view .



Savita has blamed Archana for Sachins death...........in the hospital , on his dead body , by visiting her house with a sari .Laid such tremendous guilt trips on that tongue tied girl . Kaka and Vandu hate her . Manav hates her too and it is Manav's personal wish to marry Shravani and to be part of that responsibility which isnt even his .


With what face , with what guts will archana or any girl in this case , when the divorce is in the final stages , even tell " Manav' you dont marry that girl ?" And pray , what earthly reason will she give for it , with what right when Manav has now taken all rights away from her ? The moment she does it , Manav will tell her u killed my brother and now u dont want me to set things right by taking responsibility ?


If she says the thing of what ur advocating ..........that it is unfair for two people to be locked in a loveless marraige , ur destroying ur own life and even Shravnis etc etc Manav will rebound and say Who the hell told u we r marrying for love ? We r marrying as a compro in the best interests of the child . The child wont get so much love from a total stranger like i wud love Sachins child , and Shravni is too making the child her priority . U see Archna , things have gone beyond control now , love and all have taken a backseat what looms ahead is only RESPONSIBILITY . That too ur telling me to deny , how horribly selfish you are ? Do u have any face whatsoever to even telll me this ? Under the name of ' protecting ' me ur telling me not to marry poor shravni........how convenient and womanly !


Not just that nikita , if u say that hey anyway they r all angry with Archana so whats this one more outburst , surely Archu can take this much too if her goal is noble ...............the question is , will she be listened to ? Even if Archana decides to brave this one more furrious outburst in effect will she be listened to ? Nope . So why open mouth and take this shit anyways ? Anyway he isnt going to listen , he is beyond listening . When person is not in a frame of mind to listen to reason , it is POINTLESS to even try and talk to the person as it WORSENS things .


But if she remains quiet , doesnt oppose to the marraige and is actually , keeping her womanly feelings aside , on a human level sympathetic to Shravani , her attitude will definetely affect Manav's hardened heart . He will understand what a gem she was and how grossly he misunderstood her .


If she quietly leaves him with Shravni at the end of the stay , some of her dignity will be restored for the poor girl has been humiliated enough for absolutely no fault of her own . Her character was stripped in public places , her relations with her own brother have been spoilt , she has been doomed to a life of no marraige and no children as she publicly declared her love for a man , and she has to watch her husband cold shouldering her and waiting hand and foot on a younger , pregnant girl . All for what ? Coz she didnt have the nerve to conjure up guts and talk to Manav ........two three times she ignored him and didnt talk to him ..............Big deal ! See the crime and see the ratio of her punishment ! And on the top , Manav fans want her to tell him Dont marry Shravni while Manav blasts her yet again and anyways goes ahead with his stupid actions .............in effect , Manav fans want her to have no dignity at all , they want her to grovel till the end before him !


And i ask .........Why ? Why the hell shud she suffer so much humiliation and to this degree yaar ? So two three times she didnt talk to ' poor Manav ' and sweetu Manav . For that why shud she be blamed for his brothers death , character assasinated , and subjected to the humiliation of watching her husband hovering around and waiting hand and foot on another woman under her nose ? Add to that , suffer the loathing of the full Deshmukh family as if she was vermin ? Was the Deshmukh family perfect ?


In my opinion as a viewer Archana has been humiliated ENOUGH . She shud regain her dignity by not opposing to the marraige and decide to focus on her education . I am sorry , I am not among those who just wants ARMAN moments any how , just getting them together SOMEHOW is not what pleases me as a viewer . If i see a woman who was just standing on her own feet , just getting back to studies constantly crying before a man for no fault of her own while he is in no mood to listen to reason and simply accepts her for old times sake , I feel anger as a viewer . The man has made some decisions , the woman now needs a spine as she too has been thru enough . Of course .........either the child is gonna die or Shravni , and Manav will eventually go back to her but I want Archana to have some dignity in this whole thing ............it can only be got by focussing on her studies , job , and giving the permission to marry Shravni .


Telling Manav not to marry Shravni will be the last tear in her dignity which has already been usurped horribly by Savita . Let the girl have some semblance of it . I understand ur point of ego not helping the situation it will only drive them apart but there is a fine line between ego and dignity here and Archana shud NOT be subjected to any more humiliation from Manav or Savita . Savita is playing the victim and Manav is playing the hero ...........the least they ccud show is her having some quiet dignity . And Manav seems to have controlled himself damn well when it comes to Girish . He hasnt blasted him or blamed him for being RUTHLESS .


Ur right nikita. our perspectives on this r diametrically opposite . But i like debating with u.........u understand in the proper spirit and u do not take offense and I do respect ur opinion although i view things diffrently .




Yet again you took the words right out of my mouth!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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yup , I agree. I don't want Archana to tell Manav not to marry. It is his own personal decision, even Savita is not forcing him ...he himself has made this choice and has even bought the girl in his home .
Just do the time in his home , with dignity and honesty and then focus on your career and education.
The man is beyond listening , he will take it in wrong way and will accuse her of being selfish and a bad human being not thinking about poor little shravani and her baby.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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totally, Pavitra rishta is getting bored nowadays. I do not like Manav with Sharavani. People want ARMAN together and they are drifting then apart MORE AND MORE.

I do not like SHRAVANI track. Manav decision to marry also shocked me.
Archana has suffered a lot. She should not suffer more.
MOreever, we watch serial for ARMAN and to that only they are not giving importance in serial. SO we will lose interest in SHOW sooner.
It is turning boring.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu with reference to your last post to me (too big to be quoted) : Frankly speaking, I felt like banging my head on the wall when Manav proposed shravani.. it is a very wrong decision taken in a weak moment... I wud have preferred him to say that he cannot marry Shravani as he has lost faith in love and marriage or sumthing like that... Archu supporting him only accentuates my frustration at this couple who are taking wrong decisions in the name of 'responsibility'
And comeon... I have reasons for supporting Manav and his decisions (although I don't support this one) uptil now.. the day he goes wrong I will myself say so.. as I am saying today... and I certainly don't find this sacrificing act noble at all.
You are right.. our perspectives on this are radically different.. I believe that Archana shud be the one to point out Manav's mistake and help him (be his support system like he has always been to her) and also help Shravani out in the RIGHT way, which unfortunately even her father is not doing right now... for I don't see the act of marrying Shravani a noble act at all, neither from Manav's nor Archana's side... I see it as a totally wrong decision... that is going to destroy three lives...for once i want to see Archana being the one with brains and making the correct decision.. just like Damodar who said he wud take responsibility of shravani and there is no need of Manav to ruin his life cos of it...you say Archana shud protect her dignity, fair enough the argument is tough on both the sides and as I said, everyone will have different views on it.
Although I still feel that she shud prevent Manav from ruining his life and that wud in the long run make him feel grateful to her for stopping him from making a wrong decision and ruining his and Shravani's life, but I agree with you too... that when Archu asks Manav to marry shravani and forget her he will feel proud of her for her selflessness... unfortunately then i will not be happy cos both of them will together make a wrong decision... together they will spoil three lives along with the baby's... and then it will be upto Shravani to finally make the right decision... i'm sorry but i think Manav's marriage to Shravani is wrong ethically, morally, whatever, and SOMEONE needs to point this out to both of them.. this time I wanted Archu to point it out and emerge intelligent in this whole mess... i guess it will be Damodar or Shravani who will do the honours finally.
Just wanted to clear a little thing however, that my views were not based on the fact that I'm a Manav fan or that I'm craving for ArMan scenes... my views were based solely on the fact that I believe that a couple needs to work as a pair.. when one falls weak or makes the wrong decision the other needs to guide him... and I just wanted Archana to say this only once... after that she doesn't try again.. absolutely ok with me... after all dignity as you said is important...whether or not Manav listens then is a completely different point...if she says it just once i will give her full credit as I give Damodar... if this was real life I wud have wanted this to happen... unfortunately I guess right now even the creatives are on your side 😆 and so we won't be seeing any of this... we will be seeing this in the end when Manav realises his love for Archana, will have to chose btw love and responsibility and admit that it was a wrong decision.
Phew.. it is really difficult to debate with you... will surely be winning the debate competition this year with all the practice you are giving me!!!
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago

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