Pavitra Rishta Sucks in Many ways now

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes , it sucks and it will soon go away from the hearts of viewers although currently its TRP's r high . See what the script writers destroyed ..........
1] Look at the Title song . It tells the story of Pavitra Rishta ........a poor guy falling in love with a girl slightly above his league , and silently expressing it in numerous actions like shielding her from rain , crowds in train etc . The guy is a mechanic , wearing two sets of shirts alternately , the type with a holy amulet around his neck on an open necked cotton , sweaty shirt ...............the amulet flashes on the girl's face too . That was the appeal of Manav's character ...........hard working , shy , allowing himself only one luxury and wish in his entire life of adjustments.............loving a girl slightly not in his league and protecting her tenderly against all odds .
The angry young man persona of Manav sucks as it destroyed that Manav totally . His angry young man persona punishes a girl who is not guilty while the guilty trio.............Manju , Ajit , and Savita go scot free , undetected . The angry young persona of Manav is not in accordance with the title song . That story has been destroyed by the scriptwallahs . Already anger against Manav has started stirring in many viewers hearts . He is still unaware of his mother's role in the whole mess , He has decided to marry another girl , he has brought her home far ahead of its necessity . I am not debating if he is justified in the anger or no here ...........it will open a can of worms in which many will take Manav's side and some will take Archanas side . My only point is ..................the lovable Manav has gone . That appeal has gone . It was one of the good points of Pavitra Rishta . An angry young man is supposed to do justice ........then his anger is worth it . Manav's anger is doing injustice .
2] This whole concept of Manav choosing between responsibility and love sucks as it is chauvinistic in the extreme . I had thought that Pavitra Rishta rose over chauvinism when they showed for the first time a mother like Sulochana who did not turn her daughter away from the door saying now ur married ur not my responsibility ..........but instead deciding to educate her and set her life straight . Why is it that always the man chooses and ' saves ' a woman , why not vice versa ? Would it have been ok if Archana had decided to marry Satish if Varsha was pregnant and died in the pregnancy when this stupid divorce was in its final stages ? I think not ..........Manav fans wud be outraged . So why the hell is it ok for Manav to marry ? The Pavitra Rishta is man ka.........of the heart , right ? Even the divorce cannot erase the real rishta of the heart . Then marraige to another girl is a betrayal of this relation ..........whattttever the circumstances ! Archana told bluntly in a public gathering that she cannot marry Satish as Manav is in her heart and always will be ........and remained true to the rishta of the heart inspite of the divorce going on . Manav should have been shown saying the same thing to Girish and Savita.........that let the divorce be final , and inspite of this poilice case , even if I never will see Archana's face again , I am sorry I cannot marry another woman as I will not be able to give her my heart ever and do a grave injustice to her as every woman desrves better . I am all burned out ..........this heart was given To Archana , it is incapable of accomodating anyone now . Right or wrong this is the fact.............I can only be like a solid rock support To Shravni as a brother through out my life but can never marry any woman . This dialogue wud be true to the title song but we see Manav hurrying quickly to marry Shravni as a ' responsibility '! Why ? Coz males can do this and get away with it while women cannot 'protect' honour of family and do this as their actions abuse their pativrata status ? This reeks of crass chauvinism . Choice is given to a man..........a woman of course wudnt dream of choosing , marrying and getting on with her life . Archana DIDNT . Manav DID .So in effect this means while Manav is being ' responsible ' and marrying a girl to ' save her , Archana , who turned down a perfectly good proposal like Satish , shud now rot as an unmarried girl with undeserved guilt because she has already announced in public that only Manav is in her heart . How unfair can this nonsense be ?
3] The villains go scot free , true to the logo of Hindi serials , as always . Ajit is in Bangkok , in all probability visiting the brothels there [ we all know how infamous Bangkok is for prostitution and the sleazeball Ajit seems to visit brothels and pimps all the time in Mumbai] and having a gala time , Rasika wears silk sarees and is wrecking more lives { Varsha Satish ] , Savita is still visiting Karanjkars to lay fresher guilt trips of Sachin's death on her target Archana . Why shud Savita's villainy in this whole affair will should be blunted coz of Sachins death ? Will Manav ever know that Savita is in a sense responsible partly for them landing in jail as she had a liason with Manju who did that complaint by turning against her once her piurpose was served ? No ! We see Manav saying ..........what diffrence it makes now.............he isnt even interested in knowing those past things any more as far greater things r now his priority . How convenient for Savita ? To top it all , Sachin's death has made her even a more righteous Madonna to go there and lay guilt trips . iF ANY ONE NEEDS A HORRIFIC GUILT TRIP IT IS sAVITA ...........WILL WE EVER GET TO SEE mANAV AND dAMODAR BLASTING HER AND POINTING OUT HOW SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR sACHIN'S DEATH DUE TO HER PUBLIC TAMASHAS WHICH mANJU USED TO LAND HER IN jAIL ?Pavitra Rishta sucks as villains r not suffering the slightest bit .
4] Shravani marrying Sachin and teaching Savita seems a far dream now unless Shravani acts spoilt in her pregnancy and orders Savita around . Is it possible ? I think not for Manav will fall over himself tumbling to put slippers in her feet coz she is his dead brother's pregnant wife and will protect her against Savita..........a fact he inadvertently didnt do with Archu . WE wanted to see Manav falling over himself to protect Archana when she got pregnant ..........those moments have been destroyed forever now . Even if Archana does get pregnant in future , his first tenderness of protecting a pregnant woman was with ANOTHER WOMAN ...........Archana loses that place forever for no fault of hers . Even Manav loses that experience . By the time Archu gets pregnant , if at all , he has already burned out again.........its like being a dad for the second time .
So u see , this sick track cheated us of many , many things that had made pavitra Rishta special in the first place . It is a track of vengeance bas ..........in which this time they want to show Archu running after Manav as tit for tat . But in the process they destroyed a lot of characterization and plot . Archu cud have run after Manav after he was proven innocent by the tape too .........and Sachin cud have lived . What they destroyed was the HAPPINESS of the serial .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Just wait.... keep yourself in manavs place and suppose if your family is beaten up in jail, if you lose your loving brother becoz of girl whom you love, (Manav thinks Archu has done this, even if she didnt her family is responsible) will you able be able to love that girl?? If yes, then listen all girls, you are best lover and you are biggest selfish......
Archu said no to marriage to satish.. Yes, i agree, but has she still said no if becoz of savita, her family wud have gone to jail and if she wud have lost varsha??Had she been still loving to manav?? Answer is no....
I know what manav is doing is wrong, i have full sympathy with archu, but what archu did with manav was also wrong... Plus, manav is not giving shravani a place in his heart, its just a compromise....
By the way, i am sorry KOOLSADHU if i have been rude, reallly sorry..
but, put yourself in manavs place.. By the way, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010...
Waiting for your SPICY REPLY...........
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Posted: 15 years ago
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OMG first i have credit u for writing a such long post 👏
I do accept yess this track is being injustice to title but i support Manav not for marrying Sharavani but his anger towards Archana where was Archana guts to meet Manav before Sachin death and suddenly she realizes that Manav is innocent and she comes to help when he hurts his hand,to ask his permission to attend Sachin virsargan...
Manav may be giving cold shoulder to Archu but i don't link he is hurting Archu by avoiding her and not talking to her the Archu use to do to Manav..
I think we should for few more days before commenting on this track as according to article Archu hasn't entered Manav's house may be after that all misunderstanding will be cleared.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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First of all gr8 post.....

No1 is defending Manav for agreeing to marry Shravani.. He is totally wrong in thinking that its his responsibility... Yes i agree Manav character has gone wrong now... Its not same wast he use to be... N Its all because of stupid creatives...

I love Manav character is begining sweet shy caring... Its lost his charm this whole track of 2nd marriage has ruined the show n its sweetness...

And i agree Archu is loosing all with no fault of her own... Its not at all her fault even i m feeling bad.. Though before i was quite mad at her for not trusting Manav but then this punishment wat she is getting is way too much... SHe doesnt deserve this after being wonderful wife n DIL...

The main concept of show is the bod the relation n the strength that this relation has is shaken.. I was proud of ARchu for saying no to marriage proposal of Satish she made it clear in public that she loved Manav.. N on other hand Manav is saying yes for other marriage!!!!! thats pathetic

ANd as usual villains are getting away easily... No1 came to know wat Sav did n took Manav's name for all.. She is comfortably saying Archu is responsible but cant think if she wouldnt have insulted her nothing would ahve happens she is behaving as if she never did nething to ARchu.. Forgot all tortures she gave to ARchu....

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I hate the new track . They are making Manav so eager and in such a hurry to end everything he shared with Archana.He didn't even listen to Shravani today .
Archana was not even at the police station when the complain was filed.She is constantly saying that she did not but Manav is not even giving her the benefit of doubt.
Next episode will have the court scene ....boy oh boy , I am nervous.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@mitts:
But why dont you understand that there is big difference in both situation:
Archu said no to satish.. ok.. what if:
1. Archu and her family wud hve been put in jail by savita and archu believing manav has done it
2. Archu had been beaten.. Her aai and her sisters wud hve been beaten..
3. Varsha wud hve died becoz of all this.
My question:
Then if, sulochana wud hve announced her engagement with satish, had she wud hve said that
she loves manav..... Had she still been nice to manav.... No, not at all....

Edited by guptill - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Koolsadhu, I agree with your last 3 points.. this pregnancy track was a bad one... it has created a lot of mess in the serial... wud have myself loved Manav saying No to the marriage cos his heart is broken now and he won't be able to do justice to Shravani... but the creatives have turned it round showing that both Manav and shravani accept this marriage solely as a compromise, even if it doesn't do justice to both of them... shown both of them as weak, tyaag ki murtis... making a show of marriage for the sake of the unborn child.

Perhaps they just want to highlight the 'responsibility vs. love' factor and show that in the end, Manav who always sacrificed in life for his family, goes against them to do justice to the person who has loved him selflessly. It wud be just as in the case of Archana, whose weakness was her mother, who always did what her mother told her to... but went against her to be with the man who had always protected her and loved her. It wud show them evolving.
Even I agree, the villains are going off scotfree... and that is really testing my patience. Manjusha irritates me to hell.... Savita is no longer funny... but I want to see her being troubled by Shravani
Where your post about Manav no longer being a lovable character is concerned... I really don't agree to that.. and that I believe is a very subjective opinion ... his decision about shravani's pregnancy is a wrong one for sure... but his motives are not wrong.. he may not be knowing about his mother's wrong doings... but whenever he feels his mom is wrong he speaks up... he is angry with Archu.. completely understandable..(I feel anyone in his place wud have had a nervous breakdown long back)... its his pent up feelings which are firing back now... most of all he still loves Archu... even though he may not admit it... the lovable Manav is still there.. more than an angry Manav, there is a heartbroken Manav who has finally accepted defeat in how much this relationship has tested him... (viewers actually feel sorry for him) he has fallen weak as of now and so it is his wife's duty to be his strength and try to hold on to the relationship (i.e. if she really cares about it) just like he tried to hold onto it in the past. As I said, this opinion will differ from person to person... I personally put myself in the shoes of the character and then judge them...
Eventually, what I'm trying to say is that I don't expect Manav to be God... he can make mistakes too.. his anger is understandable... but the problem is that it is directed at the wrong person (Archana) as of now cos of his unawareness and the whole misunderstanding... that doesn't mean we start hating him for it... tomorrow, when he comes to know the truth he will make amends.. no doubt blast his Mom too.
the pavitra relationship as I see it, is that even in this state of anger, frustration, things having gone horribly wrong, relationship almost on the verge of breaking... Manav continues to shelter Archana... like in the train when he felt bad seeing her uncomfortable and gave up his seat for her... not saying something nasty or disgusting about her to Satish when he came to meet him at the garage.. not even when he saw them outside the police station together... (mind you he was in a real bad mood)... feeling bad when Archu fell on his feet and pick her up... even allowing her to come for the asti-visarjan...tomorrow if they show Archu in any trouble.. Manav will be the first one to help her. Human emotions vary according to time and circumstances but some relationships are above all that... you may break them, they may break you.. but eventually they still remain alive in your heart... and this feeling comes up at times when your loved ones need you...(like in the train as the title song shows)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: guptill

@mitts:
But why dont you understand that there is big difference in both situation:
Archu said no to satish.. ok.. what if:
1. Archu and her family wud hve been put in jail by savita and archu believing manav has done it
2. Archu had been beaten.. Her aai and her sisters wud hve been beaten..
3. Varsha wud hve died becoz of all this.
My question:
Then if, sulochana wud hve announced her engagement with satish, had she wud hve said that
she loves manav..... Had she still been nice to manav.... No, not at all....

guptill
if this serial ever shows this ..............it surely will not be a chauvinstic serial . But I am talking about what they already showed . You did not understand my post properly ...........today it was not written with the aim of defending Archana or blaming Manav . Although I can make a solid case for Archana and reply to all your defenses of MANAV , today I am simply not interested in even going into that . What I am saying is this track took away the charm of Pavitra Rishta totally . Today far too many other characters r dominating the scene .........Shravani , Savita , BA and RA , Manju's flat ..............who the hel is interested ? We wanted misunderstandings cleared up BEFORE they got ugly ...............now what we r seeing is misunderstandings have already taken an ugly turn . Once things take an ugly turn there is no turning back , it never is the same again .
Look at the crime Archana did ..............it is so small compared to the punishment meted out to her character . The Punishment , in ratio proportion is far too much . It is just not fair . Her crime was ignoring Manav when he needed her trust the most . The punishment for that is Manav's second marraige before her eyes , hatred from Deshmukhs , more vicious gaalis from Savita who has to date NOT apologised for her former gaalis , no possibility now of ever marrying another guy like Satish as he is now bagged by Varsha , no possibility of a child , estrangement from her brother Vinod with whom till now she had a loving relation .
As opposite that , Manav is still loved by all his family members , is marrying his brother's wife and moving on quickly , will have a baby as at least some solace and a goal to look forward to , improved financial status as Girish will now give both garages to him . Yes he has lost a brother ..........an irreplaceable loss but he will move on with his life while Archana will stagnate forever is the scenario . It is a Chauvinistic scenario . Why shud she stagnate to this level is my question . She didnt kill Sachin . If at all someone did ...............three people did it ..................Manju , Savita and Girish . Manju plotted , Savita had secret connections whith her which bombarded in her face once Manju ditched her , and Girish made that ruthless phone call that sent him over that edge didnt it ? He had seen his drunk , nervous condition , yet he chose to do that ruthless phone call didnt he ? How come none of the Deshmukhs , todate , have not hauled him up for it ? Not Savita as an infuriated mother , nor Manav as a grief stricken brother ? We dont see Savita yelling at Girish over Sachins dead body that U killed my son and we dont see her later yelling at Shravni that at that point when Sachin needed u most u didnt speak up although Girish broke off , and now ur dad wants us to take responsibility of ur unwed pregnancy god knows if it really is Sachin 's child ? Coz Savita is a cheapo and she can do these cheapo dialogues if she chooses to do so .........but we see her doing it only with Archana while Girish shravni get all respect due to their moneyed status .
No guptill , no human ..........no woman like Archana desrves this much ..........it is a horror story now .
Btw I hope my answer is spicy enough for ur taste .😆 R my answers really that spicy ? Didnt know , i generally always speak my mind bluntly . And Im really NOT against Manav..........its just that I cannot STAND chauvinism in any form ...............be it the boy's mother harassing the bahu , the boy idolising his mom , the boy always being the one to choose and marry . It makes me sick .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Nikita , when Archana will find out that Manav has said yes to marrying another girl as she is carrying his brother's child , do you honestly think that she should still try to win him back????????
And that too after knowing how much hate he has for her .Even his mum said in plain words that ' Archana I hate you '.
Will any girl in her right mind would want to go back and hurt this family more, and also degrade herself ( she will not care about that ) but if she loves Manav , should she not want him to move on with someone else .
I don't think anyone should expect Archana to try win him back , once she finds out about his second marriage .If anything at all she will try and respect his decision.He has been hurt enough .
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@koolsadhu: Agree with all your points... bas I don't agree that Manav's condition is in anyway better, he will be stuck in a loveless marriage.. this marriage is clearly not a way to move on in life.. he has accepted it as a compromise, his Dad is anyway angry, he cannot show his pain or sadness, he will be one heck of a living machine... he will be living his life for others.. that's it. The only good part is he will have the child... that will be of some solace... just as Archana's separation to Manav brought with it her independence... her self confidence... today she works and has started her education and as she herself said.. "kuch banke dikhaungi."
Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago

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