Abhi’s appalling behaviour (US Episode)

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I watched yesterday's US episode and think Abhi's stand and behaviour was plain disgusting!! I am not surprised Saurabh Mathur is greatly annoyed at him.. My dad would be too if my hubby were so damned insensitive. Pardon my language on this. I don't condone Saurabh Mathur reminding Abhi of his dark dreadful past but Abhi is the most insensitive callous father one would see.. Abhi starts a big drama at the table saying he would never let his daughter see/visit Sid who is responsible for his daughter's condition, etc.. Hello?????! Great timing to bring this up I must say! I was surprised Saurabh Mathur was actually so patient and gently calls Abhi "beta" after the two (Simran and Sia) walk out and says that "you are entitled to your views on Sid but you should be SENSITIVE about your daughter's condition and not upset her further.. " Very well said! Later on Abhi tells Saurabh that he wants to break Sid and Sia's relationship, engagement, etc.. What?????? Is this the time to bring it up? He knows zero about parenting, that is obvious.. I do understand his concern about his daughter but the way he handles it shows his insensitivity..In a way he invited Saurabh's wrath. I am glad Simran stood for her husband about his NOT having an AFFAIR with Kiran again but I am also glad she supported Sia and Saurabh in their views on Sid - because she believes Sid was in the right!! And Sia was right - She tells Simran "what is the point of love if I don't go and give moral support to Sid when he needs me the most". Kudos to Simran who maintains peace on the table and does not tell Sia upfront in Abhi's presense to disregard Abhi's words. Only later does she go and tell Sia that she is with her and asks her to do what she thinks is right - and it is not that she speaks ill of Abhi then. She only says she does not know why he is behaving in such a manner!! I was amazed - Saurabh (the usually intefering one) said not a word at the table when Abhi was so insensitive and was lecturing Sia and Simran about Sid being a rapist.. I think it is only in future episodes that Saurabh runs out of patience and why not??😡😡 Saurabh can be way too overberaing but Abhi just invites all these comments.. I agree Sia is weird and screwed up - but the issue here is Abhi.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree with you that Abhi's attitude is quite insensitive. But for a moment if u try to put yourself in Abhi's place, i feel he is doing the right thing. I mean he does not know Sid and he is worried about his daughter. If court has given a verdict with witness proving sid is a rapist, no father would want his daughter to be attached to that kind of a person.

Anyways these are purely my toughts
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi Rajini, I see your point But the WAY he dealt with it - being so insensitive to his daughter's feelings was just plain appalling.. As Saurabh says he is entitled to his opinions but he handled it way too clumsily.. In fact Simran raised the issue "That he does not know Sid like we do" and Sia says "But he knows ME, right"? And he could not give one logical reason for refusing to let Sia visit Sid. What did he fear? That Sid would rape her in jail? Sorry if I sound crude here. If he were so worried - he could have accompanied her to the jail..He was completely oblivious to Sia's feelings.. That's what amazes me - that too a "philosopher" like Abhi! And yes, he could have brought up this topic of breaking off the engagement later if he were worried - but not at this time. Timing was really bad and he only succeeded in hurting Sia emotionally more.. And his reasoning for completely believing that Sid was in the wrong - Oh, the court says so. As though the court can never be wrong. I think he owes an apology big time as Sree said not only to Sid but to Sia as well - he could not be of support to her when she needed him the most..

I think it is quite easy to tell the characteristic of a rapist and Sid just does not fall in that category.. People may do things like generally trying to lure in a moment of weakness - but rape??? I don't know that a normal man would force himself on a girl/woman in a moment of weakness.. Even Abhi who was quite weak 20 years ago would never have done that...

Edited by xyzzee - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Just what I was saying.. all these years of meditation, yoga etc has not helped him control his temper or way of expressing things...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: chweety

To some extent,i too feel Abhi's actions are justified.

He's trying to visualise a person who's going to marry his daughter and who will be spending the rest of his life with his daughter.Sid or anybody in this situation.He has nothing personal against Sid.

Ok...let's assume that Sia's wedding is fixed with some boy whom they don't know much about.typical arranged marriage scenario.On the engagement day,if he's accused of rape and later if the court grants him imrpisonment and witnessing all the evidences in front of their eyes,would the girl's parents not think twice before proceeding with the marriage??

Yes..i agree that in this case everybody excepting Abhi knows Sid since his childhood and are sure that he wudn't have done such a thing.But still this issue will certainly be a concern for the girl's parents.that too a charge as big as this..a rapist!

Keeping in mind his daughter's well-being,it's natural for the father to behave in this manner.

I beg to differ here on some of the points.. Agreed Abhi did not know Sid and was entitled 100% to his opinions.. But the way he behaved - completely assuming that Sid was a 100% rapist (not giving him a benefit of doubt even), disregarding Sia's feelings or Simran's feelings and making it appear as though the rest of the house (with the exception of himself) consists of a bunch of idiots is not the way a father is expected to behave. I have put myself in a parents' situation and even if I were doubtful about a boy I would express it differently - only because I respect my daughter's sentiments.. I know my mom and dad would do the same..(especially if one of them knew the boy well) Yesterday's behaviour of Abhi reminded me so much of the Neha-Abhi fights..He has not matured over the years that is for sure..

This also just shows he has no trust in Sia or Siman.. And yes, I agree the case would have been completely different had it been an arranged marriage - but this is not an arranged marriage, Simran has known Sid for years now and circumstances are not similar at all to an arranged marriage.. And yes, I do see Abhis' concern as a dad but again the bottom line and the point I was trying to get across is the way he handled the whole situation was completely callous...His opinion is not the problem - his art (or rather the lack of it) of tackling people and their emotions is a problem.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: chweety

Well...i actually analysed the scene by reading the updates and the discussions.I'm yet to watch last night's episode(will watch it online when it's posted).Yes..U r right.The way Abhi dealt with the issue is not right.that's the reason i edited my post saying it's natural for a father to feel this way instead of 'behaving in this manner' which i wrote earlier.Maybe i can give more input when i actually watch it:)

Oh, so you have not watched the episode.. OK:-)) Did not realize that.. Yes, once you watch it, you willl probably understand my disgust...😆😉.. I know I came across strong but I guess I just can't fathom how someone(especially a parent) could be insensitive like that. LOL!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree abhi didnt handle it very well. But what more u can expect from him. It was so typical of "Abhi". But if you have noticed, Saurabh some how sees himself in Abhi now which is a good thing. As Abhi himself says he is trying to see it from Rationale level rather than being emotional which make sense.
But again there are better ways of handling the same thing
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: dotraj

I agree abhi didnt handle it very well. But what more u can expect from him. It was so typical of "Abhi". But if you have noticed, Saurabh some how sees himself in Abhi now which is a good thing. As Abhi himself says he is trying to see it from Rationale level rather than being emotional which make sense.
But again there are better ways of handling the same thing

Yep, I agree. I liked your sentence "But what more u can expect from him. It was so typical of "Abhi". " 😆

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: chukkna

Hi Pallavi,

I actually didnt see that you posted it already and I created a new post. But exactly the same I felt. Disgusting Abhi. Here is what I posted in other post:

I remember discussing this in one of the threads regd Saurabh Mathur's interference in Abhi and Simran talks. In y'day's episode, Abhi was shown to against Sid and Saurabh was trying to console Abhi that he should really be soft to his daughter. So Abhi said that he has seen the world and this will always remain between Sid and Sia's relationship that he was arrested at some point.

I was so surprised on Abhi's reaction as he had done so many wrong things esp his behaviour with Simran when she was pregnant,, still Simran forgot the past and accepted him. Sia believes that Sid cannot do such thing. And how will she bring this in future to Sid? Abhi was so wrong in his interpretetions.

AT last Sauarbh said that "yes, if he woulod have been strict with Simran, he would have never accepted Abhi to return back in her life" Very well said

Also Sia's expectation, that she considered Abhi to her philosopher and guide and still he couldnt understand her love for SId was so very right. Abhi was shown as a looser and I really felt Abhi to still immature. He always refered to as "Maine duniya dekhi hai" but I think that "Usne pyar ko kabhi nahi samjha".

I agree with all your points.. Very well put and those are my thoughts too..

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Posted: 19 years ago
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yes i do agree with u guyz on abhi's behavior..but i think it was not needed for them (simran,sia,and sauarbh) to completely ignore the fact that if it was a person who letz say simran and abhi new the same amount of stuff about they both would have reacted the same wayy..but i will say that abhi was more at fault for not understanding sia's feelings and being very harsh on the situation..espically abhi!! because he knew exactly how sauarbh was protective of simran when he didn't even understand abhi..so i think abhi could have been more supportive because he had dealt with kind of the same situation with simran..where the girl's father is protective of his daughter without understanding the matter. and he should understand the love and trust in the matter as well.

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