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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rachna789

The women hog all the limelight and the men are strayed. I think it's the same in every show. Maybe if writers and producers focused to equalized each character so that he or she received the same footage as the next character, things would be different. Friends was like that. All six characters were shown in equal bits and it was a hit. Quality cinema has been long overthrown and taken over by these careless loafers.

I second that too . I loved Friends [ especially Joey . He was my personal favorite .] Currently i watch House MD ........and each doctor in this medical serial is shown with his own footage . One doesnt hate anyone , all r humans , and credible ones at that . The lead . Dr House , [played efficiently by Hugh Laurie ] limps , and is dealing with his own pain , but is a brilliant Doctor . Why , oh why cant we ever come to that level ?Why is it always stay at home lazy jewelled women , doing obscure poojas and enjoying abuse with beatific smiles [ that I watch in horror ........those smiles ] ?I tell u , the portrayal of women in our serials is one of the larger problems that India is having besides its economy . It is so bloody insulting ! Women do have their fair share of social evils like abuse , but they have their spirit too . Thi spirit is never shown in serials . It is deliberately avoided . I am seeing Ladies special and Pavitra Rishta nowadays and I like it . They r diffrent . Choti Bahu too i see , but i wont be suprized if this serial goes the Dulhann or Saat phere way . I can stand uneducated women , what i cant stand is them willingly laying down to be door mats .
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Ah I'm glad you started watching Ladies Special, sadhu. I knew you would like that show. I mean let us compare:

-People dress normally--neither in mini skirts and clubbing attire, nor in these zari saris.

-A reasonable amount of makeup. My goodness, these pancake faces they have on most serials are appallingly bad.

-No shackle-like jewelry.

-Each of the women has a different story. Being married does not entail the same thing for every woman in the world!

-No endless obscure poojas and constantly threatening and lashing out at "bhagwan" every time something doesn't go their way.

-Not all women choose to wear sindoor, bangles, and mangalsutra

-Women who work...what a novelty!

-There are women of all ages being represented. Rather than getting a 24 year old actress and putting her hair in a bun, adding a white streak, and covering it all with the ghoonghat, they actually use acresses of the appropriate age.

-The issues the show brings up are REAL and REALISTIC. Pooja's abuse by Karan is far more believable than that nonsense Saraswati/Bhavishya drama.

-Two of the female characters are (or will be) smart and brave enough to walk out on their undeserving husbands...rather than tolerating abuse and infidelity under the inglorious notion of "patni dharma"

TOTALLY agree that the men on this show are at least as bad as their wives. Karan was the only decent male character and he was axed, go figure. Creatives must have thought he was much too decent for the serial and didn't quite fit in.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I second that too . I loved Friends [ especially Joey . He was my personal favorite .] Currently i watch House MD ........and each doctor in this medical serial is shown with his own footage . One doesnt hate anyone , all r humans , and credible ones at that . The lead . Dr House , [played efficiently by Hugh Laurie ] limps , and is dealing with his own pain , but is a brilliant Doctor . Why , oh why cant we ever come to that level ?Why is it always stay at home lazy jewelled women , doing obscure poojas and enjoying abuse with beatific smiles [ that I watch in horror ........those smiles ] ?I tell u , the portrayal of women in our serials is one of the larger problems that India is having besides its economy . It is so bloody insulting ! Women do have their fair share of social evils like abuse , but they have their spirit too . Thi spirit is never shown in serials . It is deliberately avoided . I am seeing Ladies special and Pavitra Rishta nowadays and I like it . They r diffrent . Choti Bahu too i see , but i wont be suprized if this serial goes the Dulhann or Saat phere way . I can stand uneducated women , what i cant stand is them willingly laying down to be door mats .

Absolutely. They come up with these mannequin representations of women. It's like getting a doll for a present. The hair is blonde with big blue eyes. Well, surprise surprise for the creatives!!!! Not everyone has those external characteristics, then why portray these ideas in shows that are supposed to focus on realism? Marriage is the biggest issue for these women. The creatives don't seem to know that there other issues in a woman's life like her education. I'll use myself as an example. I don't want to get married because I want a PhD first and my parents....oh my.......they will hate this idea of mine when they come to find out about it. That's a real life conflict. It's not realistic to show a girl agree to a sham-filled marriage because someone begs her to it [Gauri and Akash]. They could have shown a conflict of viewpoints between two generations. (I go through that too) That is believable. Why do they have to backpaddle everything?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Very interesting observations, guys. You know, I have also wondered about this market for teleserials. Apparently the viewers are predominantly women, so apparently all the content is supposed to appeal to the common Indian woman -- and it totally doesn't. Is it supposed to appeal to them in the sense that the characters are so unrealistic and facing such a severe degree of "problems" that it becomes light-hearted and fun to watch? They must use some kind of reasoning like that to justify it. But you know, the TV shows create an audience as much as the audience creates a TV show. Otherwise there would never be anything new or different. These creatives have the ability to test the audience a little bit, or at least their perception of the audience, and experiment a little bit.

I used to think about this a lot while watching Kahani Ghar Ghar Ki - where Ekta Kapoor captalized on something similar, but also switched it up a bit. She would have the main protagonist be unpredictable and calculating in defeating her enemies. Of course her enemies were mostly unrealistic vamps with the exception of one character who kept changing from good to bad, bad to good, one extreme to another, but in a somewhat believable way for a viewer with an imagination.

I must watch Ladies Special. Will try Pavitra Rishta too.. please do recommend decent shows. My brain will surely fry if I attempt another viewing of Ghar Ki Lakshmi Betiyann. And I am so tired of reality TV shows.
Edited by --arti-- - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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If I were Janvi, I would never tolerate Thakur ji, I would have left that house the minute I realized the way he thinks, and when Nikhil offered to leave, Janvi should have accepted, instead shes like we can't and blah, blah, blah.

I hate this drama, I'm so glad its gonna finish soon.

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