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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: nandinidev


as for Karan,i also agree with you when you say that this seems to be taking a toll on him somewhat, eventhough he never lets on from his conduct on stage...🤔 that small, and if you noticed entirely silent, clip with Shraddha, and the looong hug he gave Hard Kaurcan bevery telling in terms of his state of mind...all i can say is that i really hope Nicole gets the choreography right, and thatKaran gets the execution right, and they get a chance to redeemthemselves at least a little bit, even to lift uptheir own self-esteem in the midst of so many hovering question marks...[/STRONG][/DIV]

let's hope for the best...tw...



yea, i did notice..and that's probably what prompted this post..
well looks like the finals has been no different.. would have to wait for the performance, but i hope it was not a fault with the choreography..because that is what we have seen till today.
strangely, karan-nicole, its always the choreography which is hauled up.im yet to see 1 performance where the judges found fault with karan..
on the other hand when u see baichung- sonia, its mostly sonia who takes away the accolades..

says a lot about the way things r, and talks about unfairness on many levels.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#32
i really hate these judges they are so mean to karan it not karans prob that he got highiest vote
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: nandinidev

you know, if one gets down to thinking about it, that's quite true...they've made a mockery of their own show, really, and that's happened more often than not at Karan's cost...and to be very honest, i just fail to understand what exactly they're attempting to do...😕 on the one hand, they have the system of public voting, which has been around forever on reality shows, with results and patterns being much the same all over...if they're still expecting an entirely impartial voting ballot then, well...😳 and they follow the system to the T, with every celeb asking for votes at the end of every performance and all that...and on the other hand, when votes do come in, and end up leading to unfortunate consequences like last night, what's the sense in cornering the celeb who benefited from it? did he/she design the format? did he/she force people to vote for him?

and if pointedly, and i'm afraid most of the time rather insensitively, raising questions over his/her presence on the show is their way of redressing the damage then it's a really short-sighted approach, since that'll only incite the supporters to vote more purely out of spite, and the whole thing will keep running in loops, like a vicious cycle...the only two individuals who really suffer the most are then the one who goes out, and most unfortunately, the one who stays in, both for no fault of their own...
as for Karan, i also agree with you when you say that this seems to be taking a toll on him somewhat, eventhough he never lets on from his conduct on stage...🤔 that small, and if you noticed entirely silent, clip with Shraddha, and the looong hug he gave Hard Kaur can be very telling in terms of his state of mind...all i can say is that i really hope Nicole gets the choreography right, and that Karan gets the execution right, and they get a chance to redeem themselves at least a little bit, even to lift up their own self-esteem in the midst of so many hovering question marks...
let's hope for the best...tw...



Nadini I agree with your post.....somehow this entire process seems ridiculous to me....why all this drama.....I mean when the celebs and judges signed on....I am assuming they read the contracts which I am sure stated voting and as you said Vaibhavi and Saroj should know how voting works.....so why act surprised now? About Karan....as you said he better perform and Nicole better have some good choreography......I haven't had the time to watch the episode but it makes me happy that he took that behavior in a sporting manner and acted like a Gentleman should.

I am sad to see Hard Kaur leave as well.....but as you explained how is that Karan's fault exactly.

I am glad to read some post here that contain common sense and balance.....people on this forum really need to learn public decency and manners.....I cannot believe people speak like they way do here on the forum....I am shocked to see such behavior.....may it's just me I am expecting too much or I am surrounded by cultured people but either way such behavior of calling people cheap names is beyond my comprehension.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dr.KaranSG

I am glad to read some post here that contain common sense and balance.....people on this forum really need to learn public decency and manners.....I cannot believe people speak like they way do here on the forum....I am shocked to see such behavior.....may it's just me I am expecting too much or I am surrounded by cultured people but either way such behavior of calling people cheap names is beyond my comprehension.



yes, the entire forum has a very negative feel about it.. and the main work is done by a few who, i think get their kicks out of insulting a particular person..

but coming back to jhalak, other than their horrible ways of dramatization, im surprised to find the judging has been extremely flawed on many occasions too..
2 out of these 3 being choreographers, seem to concentrate only on choreography.. which is why we r repeatedly seeing that the contestants r being marked solely on choreography.. i agree a good choreography is an essential feature of a good dance.. but i fail to see the logic behind marking a performer on the basis of his/her choreographer's talent, rather than the main performer's performance.. r we here to judge the performer or the choreographer?

and while every single contestant including hard kaur has found fault with the judgement, there has been just 1 contestant who has never commented on the judging, inspite of getting raw deals.. i wonder how the 3 of them, saroj ji especially do not see that before demoralizing the very same person on national tv. very sad state of affairs..

if bbc produces the next season of jdj, im surely not gonna watch it. and mark my words, they r gonna lose out on some celebrities in the next season, owing to the treatement meeted out to karan.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: hope4u



yes, the entire forum has a very negative feel about it.. and the main work is done by a few who, i think get their kicks out of insulting a particular person..

but coming back to jhalak, other than their horrible ways of dramatization, im surprised to find the judging has been extremely flawed on many occasions too..
2 out of these 3 being choreographers, seem to concentrate only on choreography.. which is why we r repeatedly seeing that the contestants r being marked solely on choreography.. i agree a good choreography is an essential feature of a good dance.. but i fail to see the logic behind marking a performer on the basis of his/her choreographer's talent, rather than the main performer's performance.. r we here to judge the performer or the choreographer?

and while every single contestant including hard kaur has found fault with the judgement, there has been just 1 contestant who has never commented on the judging, inspite of getting raw deals.. i wonder how the 3 of them, saroj ji especially do not see that before demoralizing the very same person on national tv. very sad state of affairs..

if bbc produces the next season of jdj, im surely not gonna watch it. and mark my words, they r gonna lose out on some celebrities in the next season, owing to the treatement meeted out to karan.



I agree that Karan has never questioned the judges and have always taken all the criticism in the right spirit...such irresponsible behavior by the JDJ team and the channel only leads me to believe that either it's all scripted or it's all about the TRP's.....either way they have lost all respect and crediblity.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#36
very well said
they r jus biased judges
demoralising karan n coz he is save
n did u guys noticed tht in circus round wen karan got 29 n judges wer askedwho shud be out saroj khan said i dont wanna break any1's conmfidence now
but wen in this episode it cameto karan she demoralised him n break his confidence😡
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Posted: 16 years ago
#37

the bottom line

The production house is laughing all the way to their bank..
and all the drama, walk outs, protests against a decision is all "choreographed" to make it spicier
For example, the best way for them to make money is when Karan gets low points and his fans go beserk trying to save him. Now I'm not taking any sides here simply saying how, the one that should be blamed here are the folks who decided on the concept of public voting as the means of elmination.
The judges must be under contract, they will never go beyond the bounds that threatns that
its all a show, carefully plotted to attain maximum benefits for them. And the judges should be fair to all- thats what they are paid to do- not to humiliate anyone.
but one thing is given- no one has the right to demean anyone.
Like most of you have said- it leaves a bad taste and you wonder why people still choose to go through all that😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: olive_green

the bottom line

The production house is laughing all the way to their bank..
and all the drama, walk outs, protests against a decision is all "choreographed" to make it spicier
For example, the best way for them to make money is when Karan gets low points and his fans go beserk trying to save him. Now I'm not taking any sides here simply saying how, the one that should be blamed here are the folks who decided on the concept of public voting as the means of elmination.
The judges must be under contract, they will never go beyond the bounds that threatns that
its all a show, carefully plotted to attain maximum benefits for them. And the judges should be fair to all- thats what they are paid to do- not to humiliate anyone.
but one thing is given- no one has the right to demean anyone.
Like most of you have said- it leaves a bad taste and you wonder why people still choose to go through all that😕



Agreed.....No one has the right to demean anyone!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: olive_green

And the judges should be fair to all- thats what they are paid to do- not to humiliate anyone

you wonder why people still choose to go through all that



maybe being fair was not part of the contract they signed?

as for the second part, ive been wondering that myself now.. is it even worth it for the concerned people.. and how far isthe keeping silent all the time attitude really right?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I know why they are bashing Karan,there are no more controversial AVs to show.
They needed something for Trps.

And about Karan not being a deserving candidate to win, with due respect neither do the remaining two .The one who deserved to win is out.

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